/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28527631
Original thread

>>28549326

It's Fake

https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

>>28549326
See this is what happens when Pangolin devs think it is ok to fud Zero Exchange.
You add legitimacy to the retards who want to fud AVAX the platform.

>>28549459
Explain to me step by step what is fake, I have the page in the OP image open in a tab right now

>>28549326

the screen shot is definitely not fake, ive seen the block myself

>>28549459
The devs fucking deleted the block retard lmao. We already have proof it existed. The turks have stolen your money.

>>28549326
Pajeet Fuddders: The Thread

>>28549760
>devs have deleted the block
How did they do that exactly?

>>28549760
kek
First the turks steal your tax dollars for their welfare checks, then they rug pull you on their crypto scams. Something something fool me twice shame on me

Eth killer lol

>>28549459
What do you mean it's fake? I literally see 7 transactions there with the same hash. That's the double credit

>>28550113
id: EpICfrFU
Epic French Fuck You

This coin keeps throwing sell signals.
As soon as 1 month stakes are finished this is gonna dump hard.
You can maybe milk it to 100 before it dumps to 30 though.

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>>28549542
no one is here to baby you. It's a false flag , cleared up mistake and fud. It's over and done. If it was real he'd be spamming it everywhere instead of just on /biz/ the most fudded place on the internet

>>28550364

explain this >>28550164

how fucking delusional can you be? become blockchain agnostic or ngmi

>>28550475
This has been debunked

This is the calm before the storm
Until the devs address this ACTUALLY, AVAX will stay in limbo. They cannot just sweep this under the rug, we can see plain as day that the anon already has already spent 380 AVAX that he should never had had on 10.4 ETH. It's in his account. This is not a UI bug. He only needs to move this ETH off the AVAX network as soon as the bridges go live again, to prove he really did successfully double spend. To all the retards who have their turkish rugpull staked, I am not sorry for your loss. You were warned from day 1 that the promises were too good to be true. And now we truly see how much of a disaster this token is. Once the chain actually works and deposits reopen on exchanges, you will see a red dildo not seen since Bitconnect, or I guess more recently since GRO.

No one seems to have a good response to Keko in the avalanche discord

>>28549326
I'm the retard this happened to. I want to be clear I'm not claiming to have broken AVAX. Maybe my funds will poof, maybe I can't move them over the bridge, I don't know. But I did successfully spend the phantom on 10.4 ETH, which I am still holding, and many people saw it go down in real time.

c-chain
https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

metamask
https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/address/0xF834cD05B12fCDAcd89E17361f783ea57fE86934/transactions

I will keep everyone updated on what becomes of the ETH but may be afk for a bit

>>28550583

could you explain how?

>>28549326
E T H K I L L E R

>>28550364
then why is the block deleted?
I have the block open in one tab that i haven't refreshed, opening the link in any new tab gives the same error as op's link

I don't understand if its proof of double spend but transaction has 100% been hidden and deleted for some reason

>>28549326
We already debunked this faggot.

>>28550475
>>28550639
if this was a serious threat, it would be alllllllll over and the price would plummet and devs would be on cleanup all over twitter.

Believe all the fud you want, you're just pissy because you're FTM poor, go buy your penny stacks.

>>28550583
How the fuck has this been debunked? It's not just a UI bug. OP converted the extra 380 AVAX into 10.4 wETH. https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/address/0xF834cD05B12fCDAcd89E17361f783ea57fE86934/transactions

Get your heads out of your asses for a second. No one is FUDing you. This is some crazy ass shit

>>28550804
>>28550817
/biz/ literally discovered it retard nobody has debunked shit yet.

Anyone know when binance deposits are opening back up? Asking for a friend haha

>>28550630
You should get a trip kek. You are the man who killed avax by exposing their bullshit code. I'm here to watch the fireworks. Someshot needs to create a screenshot composition but i'm too lazy.

>>28550583
>>28550804
>>28550817
AVAX counter fudders in full force. Notice how none of them explain how it's debunked. Network had a double spend and they tried to cover it up. It's over.

> fud going crazy
> price going up

don't give a crap about any of it just going to enjoy my gains. Here's $10 , go see a star war and be poor somewhere else.

>>28550910
Don't know but I am destaking my binance coins and removing my cost basis, majority of my tokens are locked up for a year

>>28550817

you cannot deposit to binance. i am currently trying to deposit to bitfinex and sell, but i cant. but there it seems to be a problem from bitfinexes side, because the transaction worked. BUT ANYWAYS, its fucking hard to sell ATM! now tell me how it was debunked? with evidence!!!

>>28550942
enjoy refreshing the forum to higher avax prices and go drink some bleach when you missed out for some bs like grt or ftm.

I don't even had brand loyalty, I just love my gains. 500+ Stackie and getting in another 100 more.

>>28550841
wETH is not ETH you fucking retard, its some front end issue which will be resolved when the update is fully up

>>28550629
Yea that's me.

I really fucking hope there's just no dev online right now or I am just being retarded and this is a UX issue, despite a block missing a tx and 440 AVAX coming from nowhere.

>>28551041
Binance said they're opening it up tomorrow. It's literally been posted about 5 times now. Enjoy your fud, it's the only fud you can eat all year

>>28551103
They airdropped you the avax retard. Emin has been doing a promotion the last week where he is giving away random amounts up to 1k avax daily.

I saved a pdf and html copy of the ghost transaction where should I upload them.

You can see the double spend in the html source

>>28551098
This is some serious cope. Okay well he successfully traded his 380 AVAX to another anon on Pangolin. You can see the transaction yourself. Does that mean that anon's 380 AVAX will also disappear? Can you imagine the absolute shitstorm that will happen if that man suddenly had 380 AVAX deleted from his account, unbeknownst to any double spending bugs?

>>28550949
There are many projects going up. I rode avax from 12 to 58. But I'm not going to invest in a project where the fundamentals are off. Because that increases the risk of your investments going poof overnight.

>>28551141

i just explained because no one is selling, because most ppl cant.

you did not explain to me why it was debunked. you are really delusional.

ngmi faggot

>>28551098
Are you fucking stupid? The ETH bridge is down so OP can't move the ETH on Avalanche over to Ethereum yet. You're going to eat these words when it's back up.

>>28551412
To be clear I am not the guy who double spent, I just had the tab open

>>28551389
*why no one is selling

>>28551301
in your fud folder with your failed gains

>>28549326
deboonked

>>28550592
>>28550944
Imagine when this gets leaked in Telegram and people realizing what happened. A double spend in the procotol after the first serious day of traffic. It's gonna be glorious to witness the aftermath and how they are gonna try to cover it up. "We fixed the code guys", "This happened to all blockchains at some point".

>>28551412
>You can see the transaction yourself. Does that mean that anon's 380 AVAX will also disappear? Can you imagine the absolute shitstorm that will happen if that man suddenly had 380 AVAX deleted from his account,
when will be back up?

I uploaded them, have a look for yourself

https://filebin.net/ycqm3xa2lkujusda

>>28550630

you are the chosen one.

you will make it this year brethren.

I personally cannot wait for the AVAX collapse
This board hasn't been entirely pink in a long time

>>28550942
Hopefully not needed but just in case someone tries to imitate me it would be this. I'll be back in a bit to see if it poofed or not.

>>28551515
leaked?? hahahahha
priced out and you all mad that we on the gain, and when binance trades open and coinbase comes in you're all going to cry into your pennies.

>>28549326
It looks like different transactions but given the same hash because the amounts and addresses are the same, maybe because the time and nonce aren't factored into the hash. It's possible the devs may be retarded

>>28550583
>>28550804
>>28550583
>>28550804
>>28550583
>>28550804

it's incredible how they claim it was debunked without stating any evidence. fml

tripping up too

>>28549326
Man, I love this shit. Highly entertaining.

>>28551582
Me too, Avax does seem good longterm, but holy shit the people holding it right now are absolute retards, its been stable at 50 for days and will continue to be, meanwhile other coins are consistently up 10-20% per day.

Newfags falling for the hodl meme dont understand that the only reason it's working is because of how much is staked.

Oh boy more FUD. Do we have to live with this forever now.? In a bit it will be PEDO Dot FuD, Look you missed out buy ATOM. It is at 20 and will be at 50-60 soon. DOT will be there as well. This is just what these coins do now go from 4-50/60 +. AVAX was the first to pop.

>>28551782
It's a meme. Based on journalists debunking everything by just saying debunked.

>>28551960

thx. did not know.

>>28551940
This isn't FUD you retard. It's an actual REAL double spend. Grab your popcorn and stay for a while. Shit like this doesn't happen every day.

UX error you niggers
seethe.
do not bother to reply because i am going to masturbate over cunny and will neither see nor respond to your response.

>>28552152
Explain what happened precisely

avalanche discord.

you cannot make that shit up

UX error and everyones getting up in arms. Jesus Christ if you had real ammo to take down a fucking crypto one of you fucks would actually do it. Get the fuck over yourselves, go back to your stinky linkies, herpes grt, or ghostly fantoms, and see whos got the biggest gains.

> bought in at $5
> 10x gains

https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/tx/iWd83KayghBQYNERXem3nW8ifFjJsR66NwWcAR6uZavKFWthq

Here is the trx on another explorer, which shows no double spend.

0x devs are scammers and so much butthurt they actually spend their time FUDDing

Ive verified all these blocks and trxIds on my own node, there is nothing about 444 dicks as accepted anywhere, only rejected as attempts at double spend.

OP is a zero and a pussy

>>28552299
Kek

this Fawkes guy isn't filling me with confidence

>>28552299
Hi discord!

Anyone screaming FUD, disprove the situation. I'm also looking for a proper explanation, so go ahead and explain this shit.

tl;dr there's 444 AVAX in the network with no known origin that might have come from a double spend.

See >>28551544
There's a supposed double spend happening in this tx. The tx can not be found in the explorer and supposedly has been removed by some means.
It is proven those AVAX exist in the network, though. See https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions - they have been swapped with ETH (on the AVAX chain) since then.
It's not clear right now where those AVAX came from. https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/coin-balances has balance changes, i.e. including the X chain import seen in the oldest transaction. That transaction has no tx ID for the 444 AVAX that are also seen in the double spend. Normally there should be a tx (check your own wallet and imports).

The block itself where this supposedly happened in also has no tx with those 444 AVAX. https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/blocks/103645/transactions

So the question is, what the fuck is going on and where did those 444 AVAX come from? I see three possibilities

1) >>28550630 anon is running a highly dedicated FUD, which would include faking that "deleted" tx, noticing that block missing 444 AVAX, and preparing a load of screenshots in advance. Highly autistic and somewhat unlikely, but not impossible

2) some freak API and UX issue. As MetaMask, Pangolin and the wallet are all using the same fucking endpoint, and so does probably the explorer, the API might simply completely shit the bed and claim some transactions happened that just didn't, while the actual network is perfectly fine.

3) AVAX is kill

If you think this shit is FUD, explain what the fuck is going on. We're all in this shit and literally held hostage

post the Fawkes response

>>28552339
>Here is the trx on another explorer, which shows no double spend.
>0x devs are scammers and so much butthurt they actually spend their time FUDDing
>Ive verified all these blocks and trxIds on my own node, there is nothing about 444 dicks as accepted anywhere, only rejected as attempts at double spend.

>>28552339
Based. Not gonna lie AVAX fud is getting to Chainlink top tier fud threads level the past few hours

>>28552448
apparently it is 2)

Why do you guys have to ruin everything

>>28552339

THIS THIS THIS. FUCK YOU SCAMMERS. WHALES WILL SPEND RUPPIES IN VAIN AS NOBODY IS FALLING FOR YOUR SHITTY FUD.

AVAX $275 EOM

>>28552482
one more time for those who can't read ^

>>28552339

nice pal. klick on the output hash. WOOPS 381 AVAX.

thx for more proof.

>>28552545
Then it's about fucking time they fix that shit. We're at the point where you effectively can't really disprove a double spend unless you access the network through your own hosted client or node ffs

>>28552331
Dude, this is crypto. 10x happen daily somewhere. There were people who bought GRT for less than a cent cashing out their initial today. Your AVAX gain is nothing special.

>>28552152
HOW CAN YOU BUY 10 ETH WITH A UI ERROR! AND WHY DIDNT THAT HAPPEN TO ME?

>>28552448
Simply look at an explorer which isnt shitty
https://avascan.info/

0x devs are dishonest scammers and liars, but worse of all they are butthurt about Pangolin being more popular than their exchange

>>28552664
From the devs:
"Yep. Error in the explorer, showing the correct output, as well as all the rejected ones."

Fucking hell you fudders are making me SO ERECT AND BULLISH. I hope it's not reverse FUD because if so FUCK YOU.

In any case NOT SELLING

>>28552773
I am literally a wagie with 280 avax I was hoping this would moon. Explain how this is happening, don't just try to fucking deflect it

Debunked. Look up the thread with your eyessssssss

>>28551751
You dont seem to understand how big the issue is. It's not "priced" in anyway. If the code is allowing double expending, the chain basically becomes a series of bullshit numbers that no one can trust. I can't fucking recall the last chain with a double expending problem

>>28552339
Saving this to eradicate fud faster next time.

>avaxbros
>wgmi

>>28552339
Okay what's this then

https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

>>28552773
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions
This is the output and has seven incoming transactions. If anything this supports that this is not just an UX issue.

>>28552895
>I can't fucking recall the last chain with a double expending problem
You havent been around long, IOTA had this for real not only as FUD happen around 2017 2018

>>28553008
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/tx/iWd83KayghBQYNERXem3nW8ifFjJsR66NwWcAR6uZavKFWthq

>>28552846
Similarly I have 170 AVAX locked in staking, which is a big part of my portfolio, and have spent the last couple weeks shilling hard in AVAX threads. I don't want AVAX to crash for at least a couple weeks. I'm not going to lie about what happened either though, it's too bewildering of a situation.

>>28553190
for gods sake, klick on 0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21
there it says 381 avax

>>28553008
>>28553067
Is there a way to recreate this issue? Imagine making 700% profit in one transaction.

>>28553190
Great there's one block showing one transaction. I understand, but there's a block showing several receipts of it

>>28553008

>>28553190
How was OP able to send 300 if he only got 60 from that tx fag?

>>28552331
>>28552499
>>28552625
>>28552773
Do you guys understand how UTXOs work?

>>28552448
Avax isn't kill. Even if it did happen, it still doesn't mean the problem came from the core consensus. The rushed ethereum fork is flawed as anyone buying into this should have expected.

>>28553190
Anon you fucking retard, a transaction also has a receiver. I've linked you that above, and he was able to supposedly spend those AVAX.
Either the API is making up AVAX or you need to come up with a better explanation.

>>28553239
*to clarify, about 58 in Pangolin liquidity and 112 in actual staking, since I know people are checking all my addresses for inconsistencies.

this thread has shown me how many people think they know how crypto works, only to ask 'what's this' 'what's that' over and over again.

If you don't know, throw your money somewhere else. easy

>>28553008
>>28552664
381.14/6
63.523

I cant believe you new faggots are such weak pussies to fall for this FUD

He sent 63 avax how many times? To reach 381.14 which he then traded for ETH?

Here you see him loading up
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

Next you see him trading away 381 avax for 10ish eth.

>>28553570
Alright, then respond to this one. How is this a fud?

>>28553067
>>28553008

>>28552339
>>28552822
that's a lie, look at hashes. There's only one transaction with 63.45 avax but it's displayed 7 times
7 x 63.45 = 444.15
then the full value is spent in two output transactions.
It's an explorer error, it was a double spend, somehow one balance change was counted 7 times.

Second emergency node fix incoming.

how desperate are you virgins to fud avax.... i don't even hold any but you got to be retarded to think this is a double spend jesus christ

>>28553712

he loads up with the exact same hash.

so, he loaded up with a double spend. thank you mate.

>>28553764
Then fucking explain whats going on mate.
We can do cross-chain swaps, i.e. this might also compromise and literally kill ETH and crypto if this turns out to be legit and repeatable.

>>28553712
Why is the tx hash the same then, faggot?

>>28553399
You are at stage 3

>>28553723
Same hash different block age is fishy. Need explanation.

>>28553712
yeah he spread them perfectly, with the same hash as well

>>28553570
And yet you're king midwit of this thread if you think this debunks: >>28552339

>>28553712
it's THE SAME HASH are you fucking blind
it's not supposed to happen

>>28553712
>Here you see him loading up
You cant read? All those 63.523 have the same transaction ID meaning they came from the same transaction, that transaction only had 63.523 but multiplied by 7 somehow.

I'll help you see it. Look at the picture, see how each one of those transactions have the same ID? It's because they all came from one transaction, which is this one.
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/tx/iWd83KayghBQYNERXem3nW8ifFjJsR66NwWcAR6uZavKFWthq
And this one only shows that it sent it once, but it got duplicated somehow and now there is 7 of them and anon got all of those avax coins which he later traded. He never loaded up as you said

>>28553723
>>28553849
>>28553362

My bad, I apologize, looked closer.

This is very bad. This is a bug. A bug where same hash was imported 7 times and then used as oh no no no no

Oh no no no no nooooo

And theyve been telling people just try to import it again

>>28553399
I agree but the devs are shitting the bed right now with their explanations and deleting tx IDs and "wait" policy.

I'm hoping Binance will open back up tomorrow so I can reduce my position somewhat for now

>>28553862
That's not how it works. Cross-chain swaps don't cause double spent on other blockchains. It just means some nodes connected to the bridge might lose their money.
>>28553899
I'm already at stage 5. Couldn't care less if I lose everything I have in avax. Love the consensus idea.

>>28554171
You're right. Still people basically buying ETH with what comes down to counterfeit AVAX.

>>28554171
Thats stage 4

>>28554081
My apologies sir, I looked closer. Since this cant be real, I just skimmed. But it is.
But OMFG this is real.

My guess is their code is totally fucked up, like a race condition from time to "hey its valid put it in", and related to that "duplicate" shit in the fix.

Until this shit is settled I'm out, godspeed

>>28550245
based, but I like both AVAX and Fantom

>>28554261
Tether has been buying billions of counterfeited USD for years and nobody ever cared.
Even if worst case scenario is true, there is still no alternative to avalanche in what it is capable to do. It's just the beginning.

No fucking way.

https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/tx/0xd998c119c9d7597ff40e7544beaf9a9f12d615d07a5c266d0c068dbab0fe523c

This is not "same bug in 2 explorers".
This is. Pink bleeding wojak is not enough.
Fucking pajeet level code.

>>28554477
But tethers are an accounting scam. Not a blockchain failure.

>>28554504

it is indeed fucking bad.

Is binance accepting deposits again yet?!?!?!?! Fuck I just want off this ride and some of my money back.

>>28554592
Is bitfinex open for deposits? Man fuck I got only 25avax unstaked. FML why did I stake my stack fuck fuck fuck

>>28554770
yup this is a few grand down the drain unless binance wants to unstake my shit sometime soon

>>28554770

i have transferred to bitfinex 2 hours ago, but no deposit in sight.

>>28554770
You and me and many. All you can do is wait, a report is being written with everything according to the devs, noone seems worried though.

>>28554171
Guess what has the same DAG consensus but doesn't double spend? S C A M T O N

Anyone on /biz/ reading this: you should probably sell all your AVAX that you can ASAP. When this news hits normie circuits it's gonna drop.

>>28554759
ngmi

Aaaa it hurts in my stomach guys I had $30k in this AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Man what will I tell my brother he buyed too at my advice noooo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa
Ill vomit fuck

I would feel so terrible if I lose you bros money through this. We've been in the AVAX rocket together. Maybe they'll rug-sweep it so well it will be discredited in crypto history as a 4chan conspiracy.

>>28555413
>Maybe they'll rug-sweep it so well it will be discredited in crypto history as a 4chan conspiracy.
I am actually hoping this happens so I can exit at $50 and then hopefully we are proven wrong as the majority of my shit is staked until Jan 2022

Lots of concern trolling in this thread

>>28554169
Thank you brother. People just assume this is FUD without even looking into it. I can't believe it's happening and I can't sell.

>>28555413
bro, you should be glad you found it now. Imagine if avax replaced ether AND THEN this happened, that would be collapse for crypto overall.

>>28555490
Thankfully I waited with staking until the price would stabilize. Because I expected the coin to be a rollercoaster, hopefully upwards.

They'll have to fork the C-Chain, there is no other way around it

>>28555413
Maybe you could've stayed put with your fake AVAX for a second before buying the ETH.

it's a fucking UI bug holy shit stop fudding

>>28555413
Some anons will lose money out of this, other will win. The net loss is 0. Don't concern yourself.
The error would have surfaced sooner or later on twitter or something anyway, many bots check all transactions to spot things like this.

>>28555539
You guys are a fucking cult.
There has been double expending, period. Everyone can see it on the blockchain and if you were clever you should be glad you saw it here before the normies notice.

>>28555767
read the thread mongoloid, you guys are finished

>>28555767
No it's not! Look at the fucking transactions. There were 7 double spends that he then used to buy 10.4 wETH. That's an issue on the c chain. Not a UI issue holyfuck why are you all so dense.

Alright I'm setting a stop loss in case this starts dumping while I sleep.

>>28555900
Not necessarily double spending, he could've gotten other people's AVAX

As avax devs are manually trying to hide the double spend in block explorers I saved the avascan transaction list on archive.is
https://archive.is/62wQI
it's probably going to disappear from avascan relatively soon

>>28556003
Have you ever thought about the explorer being bugged? its prob originally 441 avax transaction, which seemed like 7 or some shit. Im laughing from all this FUD, bullish.

Well I dunno what to think here

All I know is this shits way way beyond my technical knowledge, and I'm way way up on AVAX. I just sold 80% of my stack and kept 20% as AVAX that cost me absolutely nothing now

I fucking LOVED this project. But I haven't seen any kind of post BTFO'ing this so I can't take the gamble

I look forward to self-wojacking and re-buying for higher, though

AVAX Chad out.

>>28549326
It's literally over.

>>28555767
it CANT be a UI bug because he has already traded them for 10.4 ETHER, someone else is now holding his duplicated avax, it's impossible for it to be a UI bug since that transaction and those 10.4 ETH would also have to be bugged then.

Think of it like this
>He sends 63.45 AVAX
>He receives 444 AVAX
this far it can be a bug, it's showing an incorrect amount because of some bug.
But now this happens
>He trades 444 AVAX for 10.4 ETH
>This transaction is confirmed
>He now holds 10.4 ETH and someone else holds 444 AVAX that he sent
It can't be a explorer bug since he actually USED those AVAX coins in a transaction AND he got the legitimate amount in ETH. It's simply not possible.

>>28556103
Avascan is independent from Avalabs

>>28556003
wETH is not real eth, and the bridge is currently not working so nothing happened.

>>28556236
Based if true.

Anyone else?

>>28556119
Can't be like that because it's the same transaction ID

>>28550630
anon how did you do it btw, did you just manually claim the avax multiple times in succession?

>>28556289
It's in his wallet as wrapped ether

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_O2KaDvwY
20:50

you were warned

>>28555563
1.The problem itt is borderline conspiracy theory rightnow.
2.Even if it was true, ETH experienced things much more severe than this multiple times while it was the market dapp leader by a margin, Bounced back up all the time stronger. I remind people here that nearly 1/4 of ETH total supply got drained by hacks.
3.This thing will be cleared and be seen as quality /biz/ fud in an hour from now

>>28549459
how far are eth holders willing to go holy shit

>>28556173
he is holding wETH which is not real ETH and the bridge has been down for some time so nothing happened.

>>28551305
AVAX is not slashing like ETH kek

>>28556206
that explains why the other explorer isn't showing that transaction anymore

>>28556206
Ok didn't know that.
So they only can manipulate the avax.network explorer.
>>28556355
It's not fake read the thread. The issue is that one transaction was executed 7 times, apparently in parallel and he got 7 times as much as he should.

I don’t understand how any of this works and don’t know what to believe. I’m just gonna keep holding

Thanks for informing everyone. Just sold.

Time to open a short.

>>28556352
2. No ETH didnt experienced this.
ETH had problems which where both technical and human but not having its god damn computerized ledger broken.

At most this is like bitcoin overflow bug.

>>28554759
ngmi

>>28555221
ok paidfud

>>28556386
It doesn't matter you moron, the transaction got executed which means those are now legit funds existing on the blockchain. It doesn't matter if it's wETH or not, he traded them. He traded 444 AVAX he didn't originally have until this doublespend happened. Someone else got them now and that means the trust in the chain has failed.

>>28556514
Will I even recover my $30k if I open short now? They will just squeeze me out wont they, its whales behind this shit.

Who hires a fucking kid to be a "blockchain developer.

>>28556236
For anyone who missed this

>>28556352
Avoiding double expending is the very raison d'etre of the blockchain. ETH has never had anything as severe as that

ULTRA DEBUNKED

>>28556514
post picture of your short faggot

>>28556844
definitely debunked. damn fuddsters

>>28556844
this is literally just stalling, either they don't know what happened or they don't want to say

>>28556071
>>28556119
>>28556236
Holy hell you guys are hopeless. You can verify everything on chain. He traded his double spend AVAX for wETH and as soon as the bridge is back up he can transfer it to Ethereum for ETH. It's all UTXO based so it's super simple to follow the trails.

>>28556487
Youre welcome anon, i hope you got some gains

They must have known all about this this is why they dont open the bridge

well fuck
sorry for those who are balls deep in this, I wouldn't feel well rn

>>28556929
Lawsuits incoming lol.

>>28556844
big if true

There are only two possibilities:
1. Anon actually did import 444 AVAX but saw that the UI bugged and attributed the same hash to every transfer and decided to pretend he did not and a double spend happened.

2. A double spend happened, or Anon somehow got the AVAX of other peoples

So two solutions:

1. This is FUD
2. It's not and they have to fork the C Chain

>>28556844
so we went from simple to gory kek

>>28550875
Telegram admin said it was a front end issue.

>>28556904
Here.

>>28556844
aaah detailed gory explanation on a UI issue...

>>28556844
They removed the block from their chain explorer, you cant trust shit of them after that

Im shaking now my node is here I can ask the node about those trx and hashes but my fingers are weak my knees are ... Im gonna faint fuck.

>>28556325
I initially tried to do the x-chain to c-chain transfer but the wallet was already having problems so it didn't show up in the balance. Got frustrated and eventually made a comment about it on /biz/, and someone recommended hitting the button to try to manually import.

I hit the "import" button a number of times while waiting, logged out and back in, etc. Didn't work. Even though my c-chain balance showed 0, I tried to send 63 to Metamask and hit send. It actually went through.

Cool, I thought. The transaction had succeeded all along, the wallet just wasn't showing it. So I put that towards AVAX/ETH liquidity mining on Pangolin.

A few hours ago I check my wallet again to see if the extra .4 AVAX or whatever from that transaction ever showed up and it said ~380 instead. Figured it was a visual bug but tried to send to Metamask anyway... and it sent.

If the import button did it I think a lot more people would have this problem but I don't know, I did hit it a bunch.

Stay poor faggots, Avax $300 EOY.

>>28557138
Read the thread idiot, he already traded it for wETH.

>>28557099
check the imports man. Can't seem to find these 444...

>>28557099
No, the hashes of the transactions are all the same. It's literally one transaction duplicating the coins 7 times. And the devs have been trying to hide it from the official explorer.

https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

>>28557231
Do it and you'll see how people who want to scoop cheap AVAX organized the FUD

>>28557169
They can't, it is decentralized, it is not ETH

>>28556844
The miserable attempt at damage control begins to unravel already, and its only been a few hours. Get your pink wojaks ready avax fags

>>28557099
>attributed the same hash to every transfer
You don't get to chose the Tx hash. It's based on incoming + outcoming funds addresses and amounts.

>>28557099
2. Real.

There has been a fuckton of people on discord asking how to re import import from this to that chain

How do we know which trx are real and which are double spends?

itt: we are fudding pajeets

OP from original thread here, the 444 avax transaction was a bug and its fixed already, you can see that by checking the link.

>>28549894
ikr

>>28551782
The proof exists in the fact that the prices havent dropped and how it not all over the place, faggot

>>28552482
This, read this shit faggots

>>28556173
Ok, so, where are the links to those transactions?

Keep on fudding, faggots, it wont make your fake claims any more real

OP being a faggot as usual, nothing to see here.

>>28557234
thx a lot anon i tought thats what happened
the bridge is down right now yeah?
this is the link?
https://aeb.xyz/
or was it the other bridge in the wallet.avax.network cross-chain thing, does that one have an "import tx" too? i want to try and reproduce this

>>28556953
They're just all in for the fud and fake story. Diamond hands past all this nonsense

>>28557400
IQ > 60

I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED

>>28557147
binance tells me
"Number of orders placed exceeds the maximum number of positions that can be opened with the current leverage."
why what is this why cant I even save $1k from this
Ive never shorted before anything

Imagine being the first anon to figure out how to reproduce this bug, he’s going to be rich very isn’t he?

>fudding campaign against AVAX all over /biz/
>fudders have even been targeting AVAX threads to spam this minor bug
Unironically super bullish just bought 200 AVAX thanks fag OP

>>28557234
I remember reading this. You make it sound so legit now.

>>28557150
That discord post was regarding the yesterday's network issue, not today's double spending claim.

>>28557564
Bug can't be reproduced, double spend is impossible on Avalanche's consensus.

>>28557615

>minor bug
>double spending
>blockchain expert

>>28557615
>t. literally shaking

>>28557540
I'm guessing you simply hit the limit. There are limits to how big of a position you can take depending on leverage. I'm not leveraged, which is why I can open a huge short.

>>28557615
Mate, this coin is currently nuclear meltdown levels of risky.

>>28557400
how is it a UI bug if he can buy 10 eth because of it? please explain, no fud here

>>28557680
You should sign up to be a TG mod, kek

>>28557540
https://www.binance.com/en/my/wallet/account/margin/isolated
if futures isnt working for you transfer your USD to isolated margin, borrow avax against it (careful not to overleverage) and market sell, buy back the avax once this shitstorm unveils and net the difference

>>28557615
>minor bug
If you think this is a minor bug you are braindead.

>>28557564
No, if people start reproducing it the coin will devaluate to irrelevance.

>>28557687
you can't double spend on Avalanche consensus you absolute retard; you can't elaborate because this minor bug has even been issued by the team. No one has lost nor gained a single AVAX during the whole chain's bug.
the amount of fear in other altcoins can easily be recognized by FUD campaigns like this one. As i said, super bullish.

>>28557721
They might literally explain that it's just a simple typo in the cross-chain code that could be patched tomorrow, or something. It's still not over.

>>28557777
and there it is

>>28557924

enjoy losing your money

>>28557777
He can't, it is a mistake due to third party APIs

>>28550711
checked and sus

>>28557935
Are you serious? How can you read this-->>28557234 and think its a "typo"?

>>28557804
You got it wrong. It likely a minor bug. OP tried to do a cross-chain swap that failed many times, but he did all of this manually with enough time between each attempts. It's not an issue with the consensus.

>>28557924
>you can't double spend on Avalanche consensus
You do not seem to know what a bug in the implementation code is.

>>28557777

Alright bros I found something, sorry to the original anon in advance

https://explorer.avax.network/tx/QTurW5kYQmZxS45dXiw5erRAc7PceWtbewYQKu8SoMNakhh6h
This is the original import tx ID

Try to click the tx ID link down there. Doesn't work, as claimed by other anons. This is scummy as fuck, the tx clearly exists and shows what happened to the 63 AVAX and that anon is not making shit up and originally transferred 63 AVAX. There is no record in the explorer where the remaining 380 AVAX come from.

>>28557721
Thanks fren. Short is in, but they will squeeze me, my liq is only $56 I dont have that much usd on exchange to move it away. Only 1600 shorted.

UI bug on 2 different explorer, mmkay.

>>28558062
Are you paid for this nonsense? The blockchain doesn't lie.

>>28558170
>my liq is only $56
Risky. Be careful, anon.

>>28558086
-> >>28558129
Basically, the consensus did not change or anything. Avalanche is fine. The code that validate blocks or transaction is fucked up.

>>28558134
Do you know how the consensus works?

Even if it's a problem with the explorer and not the network itself, this is still potentially very bad.

This isn't news but in the interest of transparency I just swapped 0.1 AVAX for ETH via Pangolin to ensure my wallet functions normally. All good.

>>28558321
Except its not and you are either retarded or a troll.

>>28558321
Explain why? Bugs like this could have not been tested. At least read what Sekniqi said

>>28558233
No idea. But I do know you can make code produce the wrong answer when asking 1+1.

>>28558395
Exactly. Transparency always existed but here on /biz everyone likes fud and inseminating everyone with fear

>>28558321
No that's barely anything to blink about. If it's not UI problem it's likely related to the cross-chain code implementation, damn this faggot bridge need some work before releasing it again, AVAX didn't have a single problem for 5 months until it was introduced.

>>28558471
Then shut the fuck up. DYOR and then try to fud.

>>28558549
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

My god, this hsk81 dude on Discord is fucking dense

>>28558537
>>28558489
>>28558442
Could be because coders are kids who make mistakes. I mean golang developers, fucks sake. Probably a race condition where check for duplicate, then inserting it anyway and the other codepath well duh there should never be duplicated hashids in the database or memory so just add them all up and send as utxo down.

>>28558549
I know how your “””consensus””” works: it doesn’t. It’s apparently buggy spaghetti code which will cost a lot of people here a lot of money

>>28558217
yeah, that sounds like a death sentence. it's already pumping. crypto is dumb like this and it might take a while to actually spread

OP's transaction isn't the only one. There are a bunch.

>>28558395
thanks anon
>>28558716
they just said there will be an explanation soon, lets see

>>28558859
which ones? explain

>>28558859
Post them, so far literally only seen everyone hanging on one

>>28558750
Thanks for caring about my money anon!

>>28558892
If they don't come clean with this explanation and acknowledge the severity of the problem, then they're literally McDonald's coin/ HOGE tier con artists.

why do so many people on /biz/ want avax to fail? lmao

>>28558892
This fud is all so tiresome I just want to know if I should sell or not.

>>28558806
What price is safe from the whales? $60? That would be fuckin ridiculus to go for ATH when a 7x mother fucking spend happened

Let's see what's coming up. Depending on the answer either diamond hands or letting go .

>>28558859
post or shut up, faggot

>>28558129
Another reason I don't think it might be a byzantine fault is that the transactions have the same hash, which is absurd and should be approved in a block or whatever.
>>28558745
Most likely. Asynchronous DAG consensus + Golang. It's literally begging this happen. But if it's fixed, it would just tarnish a little bit the reputation of avax but it's not that bad.

>>28559006
I don't want it to fail, I was telling neets to buy it now or regret it forever every time it hit an ATH

>exchanges still not allowing deposits

Just sold my 2k stack, gonna go buy more ADA now.

>>28558859
Couple more
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x8D125687F0a9EA05e48cCA928031bacE3557767a/transactions
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0xC1BF05F27cb5Cda00c1dFb01C423CCD899A2C48b/transactions

>>28557924
Then please explain what is going on retard. Sure as hell looks like a double spend to me.

>>28559006
They don’t want it to fail, they are trying to warn you, you dense turbo ape

>>28559006
I absolutely fucking don't, but this shit is scummy and needs explanation.

>>28559194
why do you keep insulting everyone

>>28559184
jfc

>>28559124
Of course not. Imagine if people came back with 7 times their original coins. The whole market would crash. They are currently protecting the traders so they have the maximum amount of time to get out, at least until the problems are solved, if they can be solved at all.

>>28557777
Answer this turkroaches

>>28559124
they know!
they censor the explorer

>>28559184

>>28552299
HOLY SHIT, THEY ARE FUCKING INCOMPITENT AS FUCK........HAHHAHAHAHAHAH HI DISCORD!

DOUBLE SPEND
DOUBLE SPEND

>>28559292
how tf do i acquire some avax right now? im a dev i want to test if i can reproduce the bug

>>28557400
>This, read this shit faggots
Are you fucking dumb? The original poster that was being quoted there changed his mind after looking into it and started panicking. Nice negative IQ

it's over

>>28559184
What the fuck??? Holy shit

>>28559292
>thinking implementation level bugs can be fixed quickly
yeah, this is gonna need a fork to fix

>>28559361
You can buy on binance

>>28559236
Because everyone is saying this is FUD when it's actually a problem with the network. I'll cool it if anons stop being so dense.

>>28559006
>/biz/ thinks any criticism or concerns are pajeet, but if you lost money, you're also retarded
You can't have it both ways. Some of us want to help others.

>>28549326
Avax is broken and the devs are incompetent and all, but trusting it as a financial platform or store of value is SKETCH AF... better for low-value IOT applications:
>non-history preserving consensus. i.e., if a 0 day exploit on VM-layer wipe out DAG storage, there is no longest chain rule to restore consensus state
>Nakamoto consensus + recursive snark BTFO avax scaling to infinity
>actors colluding 20% of avax staking power can put Tx on hold indefinitely (not as censorship resistant as Nakamoto)
>validator IPs are explicitly locked with staking power, possible issue regarding privacy and real-life attacks

>>28559006
I dont care about the con, but you dont see a double expending bug everyday. All the coming drama will be fun.

>>28559184
OH GOD, HE WASNT KIDDING

>>28559452
Weak FUD

>>28559184
Hahahah it's literally over for this turkcoin

B A S A D O

>>28559420
nigger withdraws arre closed, i cant withdraw from 3 different exchanges im kyc'ed in

>>28559548
You guys got a link for this discord?

>>28559184
>>28557279
So we have three cases of double spendings confirmed now lol.

>>28559595
https://chat.avax.network/

Can't wait for the pump the whales have planned in the next few days, they wouldn't pay so many pajeets to FUD otherwise

>>28559184
hAQpMoTE9VceukpD6Jfz6SHzN9Zmm9LiJdaNRGPqsDq8hGD13

This one is also not on the official explorer:

https://explorer.avax.network/tx/hAQpMoTE9VceukpD6Jfz6SHzN9Zmm9LiJdaNRGPqsDq8hGD13

>>28550164
Alright, the AVAX was successfully double spent and is now the most insecure blockchain. Get out now.

>>28559006
AVAX woulda been great if it wasn't coordinated and shilled by hordes of incel roaches. There can be no legitimate discussion on AVAX because these fuckers infest 4chan.

>all dodgy tx's found on third-party explorer

i dont fucking believe it.. they removed the cross-chain tab in the wallet.avax.network website

>>28559748
Yeah because as the network restored itself it reindexed everything and the fake txs disappeared. But if the users of those transactions noticed they might have used those fake ones to exchange, if this is all true, which we don't know yet.

>>28559184
Official thread song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

Rip avax bros

>>28559853
That's the very point of having a decentralized blockchain.

imagine seeing this and wanting to buy AVAX

Does no one in these threads know how to use GitHub? There is a GitHub PR up on the ortelius repo that has a commit from 15 minutes ago. It seems related. I'm not saying I fully understand the changes being made, but it looks like related and I'm confused that no one seems to be looking at GitHub.

https://github.com/ava-labs/ortelius/pull/325

>>28559707
time in india 6:07 btw

The crazy thing is, it's literally throwing up mad green candles again now

I just looked at https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/txs?categories=import&p=10#tabletop which is c-chain filtered for same type of transactions as OP at around same time. Pretty minimal DD hopefully someone less smoothbrain than me can take proper look. Might need to change pages if more transactions have happened

fuckin bots at binance its like they are told by the masters "price must be 49.9" and they make it so.

this is all a scam

>>28560056
Oh God, are they ANTIFA SJW's to boot?

>>28559452
PoS works much better for a coin that is already established and would be unreasonably expensive to buy that amount

>>28559899
Ok, but let me get this straight.
Fake tx = basically "ghost" double spend that won't be valid anyway?
What would happen if the ETH bridge was live and that one anon could transfer his 10 ETH?

>>28559184
TURKROACHES GET THE ROPE

>>28560180
That's a good thing for the /biz/ lurkers desu. It means you still have time to manage your risks.

>>28560332
Yes he would be able to get his ETH from wETH, and even if he hasn't, it doesn't matter because the double spend happened. This shit is done.

>>28560332
> transfer out
it did happen thats why they where fast in censoring the explorer, they knew

>>28560103
I'm not even taking a stance if it's double spend or UI, but it seems like this would be the thing to be looking at and discussing if you actually want to know.

>>28560195
Nah I don't see any of that or any commie shit either. I do see a couple legit indians though lmao. The pajeet meme is fucking real.

>>28560103
Interesting. It looks like the PR makes it so it would actually verify on chain beforehand. I don't know much codewise about blockchain and don't code in go so I don't understand every change here.

Fawkes is fixing the double spend bug right now.

update when? some of us have to sleep its almost morning here wtf

>>28560332
No idea if he can move them.

>>28560597
I thought it ended differently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkiMEJqc9_M

>>28560597
Pretty sure Fawkes is just a discord mod

>>28560103
Very insightful commit messages, I must say

>>28559548
Right into the den of snakes baby

>>28560478
Nah I didn't get it over the bridge sadly. Still crossing my fingers. Still have the ETH on Avalanche Network. Shrug.

>>28560103
looks like some uninitialized values and debug code related to block generations. Not sure if it's the fix. maybe they are looking for it. (I thought it would be related to cross-chain functions or something.)
>>28560584
>it would actually verify on chain beforehand
Which commit are you looking? I don't understand anything about their code.
https://github.com/ava-labs/ortelius/commit/7d48c705147d46e645562e2c1f8873c66b444cc4

>>28560623
I mean, he did and swapped for wETH

someone bake a new bread

FRESH BREAD
FRESH BAKE

>>> 8560801
>>28560801
> >>28560801

>>28560584
appreciate it. Commies/SJW shit is the worst of the worst

>>28559184
it's fucking over lmao

>>28560103
>it was the API again
Fucking called it. When are they going to rewrite that shit?
This is second worst scenario compared to an actual double spend. Every single fucking service uses the same centralized API endpoint, and if not that the same implementation of receiving data from the chain.

This is fucking unacceptable and they need to add incentives to host API end points so shit like this doesnt' happen again, CEXes could get raped by this.

>>28559899
Avascan and the original explorer get their information from the same place, the only way for them to have different info is by manipulating it. The transaction did show up on the original explorer before, now it doesn't. Weird huh? Almost as if someone deleted it.

FRESH OFF THE PRINT BOYS

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor
https://twitter.com/el33th4xor
https://twitter.com/el33th4xor
https://twitter.com/el33th4xor

AVAX CEO SAYS $70K WAS MINTED, SOUNDS LIKE IT WONT BE ROLLED BACK, BUT THAT WAS IT, NO DOUBLE SPEND

>>28561010
It's not an api bug because output transactions with nonexistent avax happened.

nothing burger

>>28561073
Do I unironically sell?

>>28559006
If an airplane produced by Boeing starts to malfunction, the people trying to find the error doesn't want Boeing fail. They just don't want people to die, you fucking idiot.

>>28561010
Can't be the api. He used the AVAX and traded it for the corresponding amount of ETH, the backend would never have legitimized the transaction if that was the case. But now he owns 10 eth?

Only explanation is the double spend.
Or how does it make sense he turned 63 avax into 10 eth?

>>28561073
It's not related to the consensus, just a typo.
Yes the price might drop short-term but it doesn't really matter.

>>28561215
Did you even bother reading how AVAX works or where his ETH was created? His "ETH" (which is really wETH) was created on the AVAX chain, he doesn't have anything on the ETH chain right now

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1360390331041202176

From avalanche discord:
"No double spend"
"No rollback, No rewind"

>>28561192
Buy the rumour, sell the news

>>28561073
>NO DOUBLE SPEND
that was literally a double spend
>same output was added more than once
>we prefer to call it 'minting' rather than double spend

>>28561073
>>28561171
LMAO
>Guys it's not a double spend I promise, just some invalid minting guys, please believe

>>28560103
Just got merged into master btw

>>28561192
No it was related to the same priced in bug 2 days ago, It's not a consensus issue, Just partly bad coding that were optimized and fixed.

Soon, Radix bros. Soon.