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Any anons want to share their strategy on identifying the top of a bull run for cashing out and waiting out the crash? Currently I'm watching the Pi cycle top indicator. When the 111 DMA crosses the 350DMA it has historically signified the top within a few days accuracy. Is this the best bet for deciding whether the run has topped out?
>>28428895I genuinely believe the top is here before the end of feb.
I choose to believe this is the Golden one, 1001 days of Summer and drought and wildfire, we will pray for dips before long
>>28429325I'm of the same mind, but indicators are giving mixed messages. Relative unrealised profits puts us as entering into the greed area synonymous with the top, but things like Rhodl ratio show we're a decent way off. Honestly this shit is stressing me the fuck out. I was here since mid 2017 and went through that bear market. I know now if I this does crash and I time it well I could easily 3-6x my holdings in one long term trade. Fucking stressing me out
>>28428895Shut the fuck up and ride it out. Holy shit I’m tired you whiny faggits wanting to know when the top is. >wheeeen is the toooop >wheeeeen is the toooop >omg I’m so scared I’m a pansy little baby bitch who can’t decide for himself when to take profit Greedy fucks like you deserve to be poor. Nigger.
>>28428895>20 trillion dollar stimulus bill including $15/hr and stimmy checks>rampant consoomerism when covid lockdowns end>low interest ratesIt won't even be this year dude. Maybe it crashes back to 50k in 2022.
>>28429798I'm trying to not fall for the "this time it'll be different" meme. But really so much has changed in the landscape of crypto with hardcore institutional investors entering the game I'm honestly not sure if we'll see such a crash or pullback this time of if at all. Which means selling the "top" is an awful strategy
>>28428895there is no topholding 4 years is much safer than selling too soon, you could be priced out forever if it mega pumps after you sell
My signal is when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistently, we've reached the top.You can decide yourself who that pertains to.
>>28428895>Currently I'm watching the Pi cycle top indicatorOk. Well you've got it then.digitalik.net/btc/sma1458Check this shit whiteboy
>>28430080haha sure buddy, when this corona crisi fully hits, people will sure not sell crypto >DELUDED
>>28429937Been here since 2017. Not poor, just want to make even more so I can buy the whole country your mud hut dwelling family lives in.
Why don't you just go 10% a week into stables for 6 weeks and then wait.
>>28430120I've read the exact same fucking post in 2018. Typical "this time it's REALLY different" shit.
>>28429325Why?
I think it will be truly obscene. Truly, absolutely obscene. I think the crash will come mid-May. Why? Astrology.
>>28430222>covid crisis is going to be ramped up furtherRetard alert
>>28428895you will never time tops and bottoms. always DCA
>>28428895Pi cycle is great. I like to look at charts like pic related to see whether we are ahead or behind the previous cycles. Currently, it looks like our performance is going to end somewhere between the 2013 and 2017 cycles.I'm assuming a $300,000 top. But I'll be conservative and sell around $200,000.
>>28429937Shut the fuck up, talking about the right exit is a constructive topic and way more important than the scamcoin shill threads.
>>28430345Yeah I remember them too but they were always spewing bullshit about mysterious "institutional" investors which didnt exist. Now we have publicly traded companies and hedgefunds putting it on their books. Funnily enough these places are full of analysts and financial experts far better at this than us, so I'm inclined to think that if they're adding it to their treasuries then it actually is them seeing something we only speculate on. Why would a bunch of financial experts sign off on buying a few billion in crypto if every retard on 4chan can see a crash coming. Only explanation is there is a real possibility there isn't one, and if it is it wont be near as devastating as we're used to.
>>28428895yeah it's a 1-2 weeks after those $1400 checks go out
>>28430490got a link?
Rare high quality thread. I want to sell, but I wont. Why? TSLA just bought in, last month Michael saylor held a conference that 6000 executives attended. He gave then his playbook on how to convert corporate cash holdings to bitcoin. The regulatory guidelines, how to actually buy it, custody, etc. Many more companies will announce this cash conversion on their balance sheets the next several months and that is unironically the catalyst to push bitcoin over 6 figures. This is actually it, feels kind of bittersweet as it is in a way more fun scheming and brooding than actually seeing your precise hypothesis for the past several years come true
So once you're convinced that Alt-Season is over and the Bear Market has begun, what do you guys do to keep as much of your gains as possible?Do you cash out all the way? Keep everything in BTC/ETH? Move to stable coins like USDT?.t newfag
>>28431091>financial expertsThe real redpill is the people who get put on a payroll in finance come here for advice because we outperform them>every retard on 4chan can see a crash comingThis shithole is filled with anons who do nothing but gaslight you into thinking it's overMost of us are actually perma-bulls
>>28431657Alt season will last until the crash. Absolute FOMO at all levels, until the music stops. Never Tether, use other stablecoins like USDC. But beware of capital gains.
>>28431657you go into stablecoins and yield farm, it's that simple
>>28431426https://twitter.com/HalvingTracker/This account updates the graph regularly
The "crash" will happen when inflation start to kick very hard. Interest rates will gonna moon and people will take out money from mememoney and put it in bonds.So the "beggining of the end" will be when inflations starts to get higher than predictions.
>>28431784True, a little, in parts. But I'm not arrogant or stupid enough to think I'm anywhere near the intellect in this area of some goldman sachs analyst with 3 decades of analysing financial markets under his belt. Multiply that by the hundreds working at these institutions and it's quite frankly a ludicrous statement.We've outperformed them because we're the smart money that got in early. Institutions didn't invest because the risk was utterly enormous. Particularly treasuries, their job is to safeguard a companies capital and find the safest place to put it (often depreciative). It's not a treasuries job to make money, but ensure it stays there. No treasury in their right mind would EVER sign off on something so volatile. So yeah, we beat them in the early days as risk kept the sharks out the water. But down the line with legislation not BTFO'ing crypto yet, and the volatility dropping, its becoming a safer bet for companies.
>>28432192>when usd begins to lose value people will move to usd denominated assetsbig brain time
>>28431456Yeah this is what's in the back of my head every time I think about profit taking. I genuinely do hope it crashes. Only in retrospect do I see how much of an opportunity that bear market was. If I'd have been better informed back then and sold, I'd be at least 10x my current holdings. Bittersweet is the right word though, the stress of a crash is ungodly, but knowing it's just a fire-sale for future profits makes it worth it. Potentially not having that last shot at printing money sucks.
>>28430345But it is...
>>28431962I feel yields might drop if the market crashes no?
>>28429937This is one of the most useful thread on the catalog right now and you're the nigger
>>28433148Ofc. You might not be able to convert even, becase there will be no liq.
>>28430191>My signal is when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistentlywe're way past that point
I follow an on-chain data site that has given me good insight. They say early August is when we should start paying attention to other indicators as an exit might be close. I personally won't worry until then.
>>28431935>Never Tether, use other stablecoins like USDCAppreciate the tip, but what's wrong with Tether? (just so I know for future reference).>>28431962>you go into stablecoins and yield farm, it's that simpleDo you have a favorite stablecoin you like to use for this?
>>28433250This is what makes me worry about folks who say end of Feb being right (yet never give a legit fucking reason why). When rappers ask about how to make their own coin and Elon is wanking off doge... that really seems like it's time to go.
when current price is ~3-5x the 200MA price
>>28430222Nah, people have become desensitized to Coronabullshit due to the MSM's daily fear-mongering without evidence.
>>28433647yeah as much as i wish there'd be an obvious top, i don't think it's gonna be. the only thing i am sure of is that whenever the top is reached, the crash will be at least 70-80%, just like every time in the past. this means that even if the top will be 100k, we'll still drop lower than where we are right now eventually.i'm very close to selling. i've been holding since $2800 in 2017 (although i sold half at like $15k)
My guts say yes the charts say noWhich do I believe
>>28432192This makes no sense.>>28433632I wouldn't use tether. Its an unregulated security and they can't guarantee your USD
>>28431091Or they are planning on holding 5 or 10 or 20 year timeframes and this years top and crash isnt something they are as concerned about as you are.
>>28431200This.. been analyzing trends and correlating dips and peaks with happenings for a while.The entire bubble is NEETbucks and stimulus checks from this last year if you don’t pull a week after the next round of checks, you deserve to lose it all.
>>28434419the top isnt in. btc just made a new high yesterday. you have at least a few months before you should consider selling
>>28435150All the normies pumping trash and link stalling makes me very nervous
>>28434374The new low after the crash will be at least double the previous cycles ath. So new low roughly 40k and since the crash is always 80% atleast then that would mean at minimum a 200k top for this cycle. Stop worrying until then.
>>28435424you're going to get shafted so hard
>>28428895MVRV-Z score
>>28428895you got to look at the macro side of thing
>>28428895The top will not come from bitcoin this time. Corona stock crash will pull crypto down with it.
>>28435834There won't be a stock crash. Feds brrrring
Just sold another batch of BTC. Enjoy the future gains that I'll be missing out on frens.
>>28436570thank you anon. that's what's gonna happen if i sell to
>>28434931Good point, though aren't a lot of these companies putting them as hedges for their treasuries? Treasuries are supposed to be dynamic enough to manage changes in cash flow and respond to unseen costs. If they occur during a crash and they need to cash-in, they'll have their hand forced to lose money to cover expenses. So, putting a size-able chunk in bitcoin for a long term hold doesn't seem to align with what most treasuries are for right? Unless they're either a healthy company which is well managed so doesn't see any need for the money their tucking away for a long, long time, so a crash means nothing. Or they're not anticipating much of a crash. Either way it's bullish for the long term for crypto - these institutions clearly aren't expecting it to stay down even if there is a crash.
>>28428895RhodlS2fYour welcome
>>28431091>funnily enough these places are full of analysts and financial experts far better at this than usYou are wrong. They mostly aren't.
Why risk swinging when you can just buy more when it dips? Your hedge is being young, who cares if it takes a few more years.
>>28431091i've come across thousands of articles written by analysts and financial experts that are proven incorrect by subsequent events. computers and programs do all the analysis of statistical information you need, you just need to DYOR to know if a company's stock value represents it's actual value or it's suspected value
>>28430167It’s just a question of when it will be 100k so basically anything less than that is free money. With risk increasing as you approach 100k
Piece of anecdotal evidence: normies in my life are starting to take the hyperinflation-pill.Normally it's a slow burn but the last year has been a real eye opener.
>>28429798Already praying I want to buy more but not at these prices.
>>28438210Anyone with two brain cells knows the dollar is fucked
Idiots.Top is in.Cash is king.Deflation will hit after the Nasdaq crash. Screenshot this, really.55#^ELa
>>28438418The dollar is fine, stocks are not.Dollar is going up because no one has the money once overleveraged markets crash.
>>28428895I'm not going to pretend to know. But the last end-of-cycle crashes have all been in December. I'll probably start laddering out then. The real question is when to exit alts. At the end of the last cycle, if you cashed out your alts in December alongside BTC, you would've missed a ton of gains from the giant spikes in early January before the huge crash. But that's n=1 and we don't know if that will happen again.
I don’t think we’re near the top dude Things are totally different this time. My mom and sisters are asking me about crypto which is a very good sign!! More money coming in!!
>>28430490>sell around $200,000.This.ETH will be, at least 7k. We will hit it around september - october.
>>28438748Yeah I got saved by my alts. NEO was close to ATH as late as February when it was clear crypto was crashing
>>28429937
so much cope in this thread lmao. top is very close, bubble bursts by the end of march, probably mid march
>>28428895>everyone saying to stop being a pussy and ride it outok yea but I am gonna go ahead and sell 1 eth to make back my cost basis for the other 9 i'm still holdingi'm..i'm sure I won't hate myself for that a few months from now, it's... it's just 1 eth, right
Is it even worth buying btc with only $3000?
>>28435322I’m there with you dude. I can’t sleep at night. I don’t even have that much money but I don’t want to lose it.
>>28428895If I had more money I'd pull out now but I am poor so it doesn't make much difference. I think will try to top again at 50k and probably drop to 32kish and crab. go from there
>>28439427March isn't going to be the end of the cycle. It's possible we'll see a sizeable correction, as corrections up to 40% or so can happen frequently even during a bull run, but it won't be the end. Bull markets have never ended that soon post-halving, that soon after breaking the previous cycle's ATH, or only doing a 2-3x from the previous ATH.
>>28429909i feel you, brother. I still have ptsd from 2018. all the normie indicators like celeb shilling, black people buying, and poorfag retards gloating about tripling their pitiful $100 cuck stacks are signs the top is in.YET IT IS ONLY FEBRUARY AND THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE STILL BULLISH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>28439427WHY
>>28439561Honestly its either BTC, LINK or Doge if you want to make decent returns on something like thatBTC for the long haul (back when it was 10k or so)Link for medium gainsDoge for 1 dollar you do the math.
my top signal is iotait's the single biggest shitcoin in top 100if it hits ath I'm getting out with everything
>>28430191>when the least financially responsible / savvy people in society start talking about it consistentlyThat happened to the stonk market and it just exploded to the upside
>>28439802I'm with you brother. If it goes tits up we'll ROPE together
>>28438748Same thing will happen, normies will always sell their btc for alts after btc starts going down and some alts start going up.Also tesla and large firms will either sell otc or will just hold long term.The question is when to exit the linkies.
>>28439802It's because every bullrun has a bigger retard population, in late 2017 it was the normies and some celebs, in eoy 2021 it will be everyone, as in everyone, you'll see family members arguing about shitcoins on kikebook if you used it, whores with their favorite shitcoin on tinder, etc..
>>28429325Im already out. Im not gonna let greed stop me from finding a chair. Good luck everybody who wants to keep dancing. Hope nobody here ends up with my bags.
>>28441182>> out at the first leg up. kek you missed 80pct of the gains.
>>28430191N
>>28433250It’s unironically different this time— institutions will be catching bags for years now
>>28439629This. We will have a huge correction and that will be the best chance to buy for a few months before a stronger bull run (probably end of year, but maybe early next year).
Am I gonna have to post the rolling average and logarithmic rainbow charts again? Are we gonna see these posts every week until the EOY crash from 115k?Here’s a tip - this feels like the 2017 peak to you because your experience allowed you to get into this one earlier.
>>28429909this it's so fucking weird this time, all the social indicators like normie hype and shilling scream sell right fucking now, while all the graph analysis like rhodl, pi cycle, and just generally how the halving cycle usually runs say we're still a few months of parabolic growth away from the real top. elon kinda fucked up any predictive metrics we could normally rely on, and the unprecedented distrust in the dollar could make this go even higher, the truth is we casino now
>>28441576>this feels like the 2017 peak to you because your experience allowed you to get into this one earlier/thread
>>28428895Logarhythmic regression (like bitcoin rainbow, i think)And rhodl
>>28441676Gotta wonder about all those indicators. With everyone and their mother looking at them, how much frontrunning will their be? Feeling like waiting for a touch on the red zone of the rhodl/etc is gonna be too late.
>>28441576Fair point to be honest. Have been thinking recently that I've been around since the drop from $2900 -> $1800, but that only gave me experience of the tail-end of the bullrun. So this is my first full cycle after a halving, not just the latter half. Makes me anxious though as it means I'm floating on as much experience as a newfag in this specific time in the market.
my indicators are N and Jnot to forget W
>>28430400What happens in mid may
>>28435568Thanks.
>>28430199Thanks for that
>>28441182There were people who cashed out at $3k in 2017. They had TA supporting their decision and everything. Not saying your wrong, just be prepared for all scenarios is what I'm saying.
>>28430120the problem is it really is different this time. did institutions buy hundreds of millions of btc in 2017..no. even tesla bought over a billion. things ARE diffetent tis time.
>>28432591I get your point but remember that it took them this long to buy btc in the first place. Suddenly now they know how to buy before a pump? Why didn't they know 6 months ago, for the 5x? Why didn't they go in huge last cycle etc.
The top will be when people stop posting bobos saying it's the top every time BTC goes down 5% and instead people just brainlessly buy the dip until they realize it's dipping harder and harder because TSLA is taking profits.
>>28438748You put 1/3 into alts while exiting BTC. Alt season commences like last time, great. It completely crashes, who cares.
>>28428895Dear Bitcoins,I know you're probably not listening, but here it goes anyway. Please dump on all these nufags, toasties, and niggers. I hate them all and don't want them to share in my gains. Please shake them all off so fucking hard that they never come back.Thank you,Your lil hodler.
>>28430424It absolutely is getting ramped up, even if the virus is weak, 90% of npcs believe everything our "authorities" say over scientists and doctors speaking out against the fraud. Don't forget, the vaccine only prevents hospitalization (unless it kills or maims you, which odds are high it will), which allows it to mutate without the pressure of becomming less deadly, so they're going to blame the next covid version (they're already calling it covid-21) will be much stronger, then they really start pulling the medical tyranny shit.
>>28430222The entire crisis, like corona itself, was a scam meant to create a narrative for "most votes ever but only at 3 AM in philly, atlanta, detroit, milwaukee and los angeles" so that agent orange would be removed by the cabal of 80yo pedos who control DC.If you think they have any possible desire to make things worse when it would just lead them to being lynched, you are retarded.However if it DOES get worse, then it's because the entire structure is totally fucked and they have no ability to unfuck it- which means you'll know it's a real instead of a manufactured crisis and we're all boned unless you've been accumulating canned goods and water filters.
>>28432591If you are a good analyst, would you not quit these firms and invest your own money
>>28432591>goldman sachs analyst with 3 decades of analysing financial markets under his belt.oh the people who are buying my bags rn? hahah yeah they are so smart and so early
>>28428895I know a top when I see one and that's when DBC does x10. So far only x2.
>>28428895>it worked well>2/3 false signals in 2013which one is it?
>>28430191N have been talking about crypto for months dude
>>28443076is it stated anywhere when they bought in? they could have done so during March
>>28428895>Any anons want to share their strategy on identifying the top of a bull run for cashing out and waiting out the crash?If I believed this run was the same as 2017 I would give you an answer, but what is happening right now is different.In 2017 the dollar was still strong. Right now, the value of the dollar is rapidly collapsing thanks to USA sliding into total degenerate irrelevancy. Everyone knows about covid of course. There is also the fact that institutions are buying BTC and established banks in the USA are offering custodial services for crypto.I believe that Hyperbitcoinization is a potential possibility, as national fiat currency systems collapse, and everyone looks for assets backed by anything tangible.
But honestly, I think a more relevant question is whether we'll see a double top like in 2013 or a single bull run like in 2017. Our pace seems to be somewhere between the last 2 cycles, we're going up way too fast to have steady growth until December but it doesn't quite feel like a vertical early top either.If we end up going vertical in the summer and then crash, I'm not sure if I'd have the guts to bet on another December top and go back in.
>>28443527I know a top when I see one and that's when doge and funfair moon. And they did.
>>28443183Amen.
>>28443403Why would they quit a high paying job to invest opposed to you know...just keep on working at a high paying job and also invest their own money.
>>28441059Thus bull run will unironically be dot com level in terms of normies fomo.
>>28443745The US dollar is backed by 660 trillion dollars worth of assets. There are only 80 trillion in circulation. It’s going to hold it’s value just fine even if they double that amount. Everyone saying it’s getting weaker doesn’t understand how it works.
>>28429937Are you retarded? We just want to sell high so we can buy more coins.
>>28441511>>28439427>>28439629we just had a massive correction from 42k down to 28k and a massive head and shoulders pattern on every time frame, then a fake down dump. there isn't going to be another dump so quickly, you had your chance already. the next dump will be 85k down to 55k
>>28434374Why not just keep 10 percent of your holdings permanently in btc, in case crypto replaces usd
>>28443539I only see 1 arguably false positive here in earlier 2013? Even then it still is the top for the following 3-6 months after that. If you sold there and DCA'd back in you'd be laughing.
>>28443745Logical, but you're talking about the country that literally, not figuratively, stole everyone's gold in 1933 because fuck you, that's why. If things to tits up to the point of hyperinflation, all bets are off...
>>28439802You have to understand how this technological wave works. Everything up to 2018 was stealth, but at the end you saw a lot of FOMO. Everything up to this run was early adoption, it should look like we're reaching mass adoption, but a correction SHOULD stave that off for another cycle. At some point during this one a lot of people, normies and big money both, will get burned with a big paper hands hit on Bitcoin and still think it's a giant scam. Defi is still crazy new, and the infrastructure to to support mass adoption of non-boomer crypto has to be built out more.Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
>>28444137so the usd isn't getting weaker despite 50% of the total supply being printed last year? uhhh ok. this is peak retardation. sorry, but i have no idea how you can think it's not getting weaker. you're just mumbling words while the fed continues to dilute its value
>>28441576big brained post right here niggers.
>>28444186>>28444186>in case crypto replaces usdthere's zero chance of this imo. bitcoin is extremely impractical as a day-to-day currency and the govt would never let it happen anyway.the best that could happen is that it becomes a long-term alternative asset class for large funds, rich people and shit, like gold. in which case it will probably go to six figures, perhaps even seven long term. i am concerned about the energy use though.anyway, if i sell, it would be my hope to buy back in at a significantly lower price. but there's the risk that the price will never drop enough and i'll be left out permanently. so i still see your point
>>28444560I used facts to dispute what you said. It would take 300 trillion dollars in circulation to have any impact
>>28443076I kind of get your point, but they bought in when they bought in, as that's when they decided it was a correct choice for them? Maybe people hadn't really considered it properly till some grunt did some analysis and volunteered the idea to his boss. Or maybe they've had it on their radar for a while and been doing more complex analysis and research than we understand to measure and assess risk & volatility, waited for it to be at an acceptable level and went ahead. Honestly there's so many factors to consider I dont really think it's that clear cut - it could be though and you may very well be right.
>>28444881you should make a thread about it so i can sit back and watch every single person on the board mock you for thinking 50% inflated supply doesn't impact real world purchasing power
>>28439576You might want to look at what is more important to you
>>28430345If you can't see the difference between now and then you are actually retarded, or you didn't keep up with any of the massively bullish news/events.
>>28428895I’ve heard the pi cycle indicator is pretty good
>>28444802(((they))) would never let crypto replace national currencies. Why the fuck are all these central banks creating CBDCs? Once that system is in place they'll start to regulate the shit out of crypto due to "muh terrorism" and "muh money laundering"CBDCs will give govts absolute control over how their people spend the monopoly money and absolute surveillance on what they spend it on.
>>28429909It is simple1) btc can keep its value because it actually has significant demand these days2) shitcoins will be wiped out because 99% of them have currently no value, and at least 98% have no hope of ever having any value in the future
>>28443471Individuals operating under the umbrella of an institution with company capital with outline risk assessment to maximise stakeholder profits =/= individuals operating on their own with their own personal money & risk tolerance.
>>28439576If it's affecting your day to day life that much you've put in money you can't afford to lose. You always need to make sure you aren't gonna end up necking yourself if crypto goes tits up.
>>28441059This, the market cycle meme chart doesn't apply 1:1 when it comes to emerging technology. With each cycle, we see an exponentially higher mcap, exponentially larger number of adopters, etc. The peak media attention in 2013-2014 was less than in 2017-2018, and 2017-2018 will be dwarfed by the media craze we'll see in 2021-2022
>>28440339I would love to see the stock market crash right now
I'm a bit afraid of the hyperbitcoinization scenario since I'm all in LINK. Anyone else in the same boat? Selling part of the stack for BTC seems idiotic at these prices, but if there is hyperbitcoinization then the sat value might go even lower.
>>28428895Some indicators show the top will be in beggining of autumn. Like S2F. I dont think BTC will do just 2,5x in cycle or that it would be much shorter. We might have big correction but not crash and crypto winter yet
>>28441676>all the social indicators like normie hype and shilling scream sell right fucking nowno they don't, google search trends only has us at 50% of the 2018 peak
>>28431091>Why would a bunch of financial experts sign off on buying a few billion in cryptoa few million in BITCOIN you meanNot a single institution is or will be buying Cardano, The Graph, Avalanche, IOTA, Fantom or any of the other thousands of shitcoins with retarded names and retarded logos. DeFi blue chips are the only one that have a chance outside of bitcoin
>>28430199I believe we are around May/June part of this chart right now
Don't think we're even close to the top yet. Me personally, if Bitcoin hits 6 figures I will be thinking about a profit take. But this is not 2017. It's not just about crypto either. The writing is on the wall that the dollar is fucked and stocks are badly overvalued. If you want to pull your money from USD and stocks, where do you put it? Gold and silver if you can get it, commodities perhaps, and crypto. I am willing to be wrong here, but I don't think it would be smart to convert your ticket to wealth in the new economy for monopoly money when crypto's adoption phase is just beginning to kick off. It's higher risk then just holding and maybe having to see red numbers for a while - you can just buy more on sale if so. I am holding my long term positions hell or high water, what you do is your call.
>>28445008Then why hasn’t inflation taking everything you’ve saved because there’s been massive dollars issued in the past year and inflation has stayed the same? Maybe because it’s not been even close to the actual value the dollar is backed by.
>>28443223It'll make people infertileI heard the gene is recessive, but since most people will be vaccinated, it'll sterilise a large portion of the population
>>28445245It’s all profit so it doesn’t matter if I lose it but still like 12k extra would be super helpful now and I don’t wanna lose it.
>>28446075the impact of the inflation won't be felt immediately. thats why i'm planning to be long gone from the US before shit truly hits the fan and have a supply of precious metals and crypto. and google the price of wheat - it's up 30% since june last year. thats the real indicator of inflation
>>28444076To not work an 8 hour office job
>>28446454I guess we disagree
>>28444137Look at weimar germanyIf the amount if dollars double, it value will be about half
>>28446588Germany printed more money than they had value backing it. They actually had almost no assets when that happened backing their currency
>>28444802I also don't think btc will replace fiat but might become a store of valueEth might replace usd, but most money my family has in eth, so i might be biased
>>28446075Because that has gone into the stockmarket, not to consumersLook at spx/m1
>>28443901Were do for a flash crash to shake out those over leveraging.
>>28441059>whores with their favorite shitcoin on tinderThis is the sell signal i've been watching out for unironically
>>28428895RHODL seemed to have worked in the past. No false top like the other indicators
>>28431091Watch the Stockmarket if that retraces or dips you will cry with penny stocks crypto will be sold off to keep there position open in the stock market. Happened in March 2020.
>>28445374depends on the search term
>>28432192Smart money will be off loading bonds for money and put it elsewhere.
Is there money to invest in crypto/BTC?As long as there is money to invest (and there is lots of it rn and in the near future with the stimulus both in the US and EU), it will continue to grow.When does that money end? When (or if) interest rates go up or the debt collectors come knocking on people's/nations doors. There is actually a surprising amount of nonperforming loans that are starting to stink, people living above their means with credit cards and loans they can't repay.With so many people worldwide losing their jobs, governments will have to implement UBI type gibs. And UBI gibs is just another way to keep QE going into infinity.
>>28446075Inflation has been cutting directly into my paycheck in terms of how much I have to spend to buy what I need. I work construction and my company has had to charge customers double or triple what we'd have charged last year for similar work - why? Because materials and general cost of doing business have skyrocketed for many jobs. There is no genuine shortage of materials either. And I know when I go to the grocery store, I can always expect some prices will have ticked up since a few weeks ago - never, ever, ever down. The figures and charts you're looking at to reach the conclusion that printing money is fine and hyperinflation could never happen here, are entirely fictitious. If you increase the supply of a currency exponentially, its value will fall exponentially, this is hard fact. Give it time you'll see for yourself.
>>28445660what's your plan if the SEC says crypto is illegal? That Janet Yellen cunt just might pull that stunt
>>28428895normally this would feel like the top. It's hard to not fall into the "this time its different" mindset.. but what makes this run especially weird is that we have institutions waiting to buy dips, stimmy checks, and inflation happening all at once.So honestly I have no fucking clue lol.
>>28446278Then take some off the table?
DentaCoin pomped almost 150%DENTA coinIOTA pumped almost 100%We are very near the top we have 2 weeks at best
Boomers at my job are talking about the price of bitcoin again, I think we are at or very close to the top.
>>28446075no velocity, when economy opens up everyone gets fucked in the asspart of why they don't want it to open upit's a new epic way to keep your economy healthy, just make sure that you destroy economy fast enough to reduce velocity while you're printing money lmao
>>28446957I got over $300,000 in the pay check protection act and I only had to spend around $2400 of it on employees that missed work for corona. If you think all the money went to the stock market you are wrong. It’s money I’m going to give myself a bonus and use half to purchase new vans for my fleet. I purchase $200k worth of electrical supplies every month and I saw material shortages and wait times but no price increase.
>>28440314truthIOTA and DENTA are the best indicators
>>28448032M1 can't increase with the consumer price index not moving muchIt either went into stocks or cpi lags behind because it takes a bit for people to realise that the value of fiat has dropppedProbably a bit of both
>>28441182same. I got the fuck out and it feels good. locked in guaranteed profits. in 2017 greed caused me to sit there and watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shit. Im not going through that again.
>>28442738robinhood ipo. when they go insolvent because of vengeful gme bagholders, they wont have to reimburse users crypto holdings, and they won't. since they don't actually own any. most normies hold their BTC and ETH on RH, so this will destroy faith in cryptocurrency for a while.
>>28447538This is the exact opposite of what I’m experiencing. I have a electrical company in Jacksonville Florida with 45 employees and 20 vans running. No shortages?!? I’ve waited months on lighting packages and I’ve had strict limits on conduit and wire that have really been hard to overcome.
>>28430120good luck with that shit. institutions bought in 2017 and sold before it all went to shit.they'll do the same thing this time. muh institutional money doesn't mean shit, they're out to make profits off the backs of all you greedy retards.
I only started crypto in the second half of last year just before this bullrun started Ive made so much money and am under constant stress not like you guys who have seen this all before. not selling for a bit though, I will when I feel like it
Just sell little by little on the way up then rebuy every time it corrects -30% or moreTop is in when it no longer makes new high but instead makes lower lows. Give it time like a month or so though, because it could be bear trap like last month.
>>28438460>deflation>2021
>>28447348not yet
>>28448385I meant in terms of astrology, but interesting takeDo you get private keys for your cryptos on rh
>>28448338>in 2017 greed caused me to sit there and watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shitIt went back to new ATH though the fuck are you complaining about
>>28429909Same here fren. It's the final moments that are most parabolic but extremely risky to be fully allocated in crypto at that point.
>>28441576This. For anyone who was here during 2017, then you'll remember that Bitcoin retraced hard as ETH and Alts exploded parabolically. I thought this was happening the other week when Bitcoin dipped and ETH + Alts exploded, so when it started to drop slightly I went into stablecoins whilst the storm unfolded. Thing is, it didn't - Bitcoin has now charged close to $50k. When Bitcoin dips hard and ETH + Alts continue to go up, I will once again start taking profits and moving into stablecoins.
>>28441676Remember this isn't a normie fuelled run like 2017. We are in normie FOMO territory but they only have so much money as average individuals. We need businesses to FOMO.
>>28447573In that event it's noteworthy that the dollar, or FEDcoin, etc will be horrible places to keep money. If inflation keeps getting worse lots of people will say fuck it and look for ways to buy a better currency, illegally if necessary. We have precedent for this in Iran with Bitcoin - also in Venezuela where people began using USD instead of the legal state-backed currency. Here people are already buying silver in droves to prepare for the worst, but it's getting hard to find. The next logical option is crypto. Also, the rest of the world will still have crypto, and the elite will still be able to invest in whatever they like. I don't see it going away anytime soon due to regulators, they might give us a temporary buying opportunity at worst. If I need to make a purchase in such a scenario, I doubt I'll have any trouble buying what I need. Other than that I'm holding long haul.
>>28448540your actually making money with /biz/ advice ?
>>28449057The first thing /biz/ tells you is buy BTC and ETH and if you did that last year you'd be way up now
>>28449057>Look for the least shilled coin >Go all in >Rinse>Repeat making money is easy here, I just haven't figured out how Im gonna keep it yet
>>28448540RelaxAnd be objectiveYou might want to limit yourself on checking the btc price Perhapse once per day
>>28429937>JUST HODL WITH DIAMOND HANDS YOU APES ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY ITS ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE PAPER HAND BITCHES DONT GET TENDIES JUST HOOOODLLLLShut the fuck up
>>28449057I found out about eth through biz when it was still very cheapBut i think there was less shilling here back then
>>28448415Well, I'll have to unpack what I said a bit: _genuine_ shortages. We did have several months of being unable to fill lumber orders for jobs, during summer. But I cannot see any reason for the shortage unless it's simply no one turning up for work at the factories. Now the shelves at the stores are chock full of boards... And the prices have not gone down, they're even higher than when they were scarce.
>>28429937dumb faggot. you must have a minimum 110 IQ to post here, so get out or lurk
>>28449327Its the reddit refugees. This is every man for himself. Take profits whenever the fuck you want. Dump shitcoins when they 5x. There is no in this together bullshit.
>>28448810BTC is back at ATH, newfag. most of the big altcoins never survived after that crash.
>>28449327That is what you do with BTC though. It's retarded to hold onto a stock of a failing company like GME, it's also retarded to constantly go in and out of BTC or gold trying to catch the knife every day when you know for a fact this shit's going up long term.
>>2842889572 weeks after the halving bro.
>>28449527>muh shitcoinsYou'd lose that money even without a major crash
>>28430199this guy is pretty alright.
>>28448573...I said it depends on the search term. My screen is "crypto" yours is "bitcoin".
>>28443177This. For the bottom, the bulls have to capitulate. For the top, the bears do.
>>28449028Good analysis. Thanks.It's just frustrating as fuck that our shitty government is actually worse than fucking China when it comes to crypto regulation. CHINA for fucks sake.
>>28449636funny. I just cashed out a fat stack of RSR and made a bundle. get bent.
>>28449506thank you. This is the reason /biz/ has millionaires and reddit will stay poor forever
>>28449178>>28449206any more sweet tips is it too late to go all in on etherium?
>>28449886Nig are you really bragging about how great your strategy is after you said you had to>watch my massive stack just crumble away until it was dog shit
>>28438418Money being printed yes but it hasn't entered into the economy. It is still in the financial system as liquidity not moving. M2 is also at a all time low.
>>28428895Its somewhere between 100k-300k
>>28449706shit bro I'm retarded I didn't read the post you were replying to, my bad
>>28444439There's also the "store of value" narrative when it comes to BTC. I'm honestly not sure how this will play out. Maybe near the top, they'll be a mass shift in consciousness from "great store of value" to "ponzi scheme, we need to get out." Not sure what might cause this though.
>>28448573>>28449706also, most people already know vaguely what bitcoin is. terms that involve normies buying bitcoin are likely more aligned with general sentiment.
So many oldfags in here. It's weird to imagine how many conversations we've had with each other over the years without really knowing it. Threads like this remind me that we're definitely all going to make it.
>>28450196at least it's an ascending triangle
>>28428895stop leaking alpha you faggot, don't make these threads fucking dumbass
>>28449526>bro just hold from 20k to 3k for 2.5 years no one can time the falling knifesShut the fuck up
>>28446278bro I cashed out a fat stack and it feels good. I left a little bit in just so I can be a part of all this still, but Im not about to lose this stack.
>>28438460We will never again see deflation in our lifetime. Number MUST GO UP
>>28449423That’s what I experienced also. Everything is back to normal now. I’ve been loving the low gas prices because we spend a lot of money on gas every month. I have seen some pricing increase also but it seems to have averaged out with China operations back to full swing. I’m still having lightning package delays. A package I ordered for a catholic school has been stuck on the ship for over two weeks while the port is backed up. I get different answers everyday about why this is but I know I’m not the only one affected. I had a draw withheld by the contractor and they were trying to penalize me for being behind schedule for the ceiling cover up but they backed off for now. I can say this. I expected it to be like the 2008 housing bubble. I was worried about the future of my company. I have men who depend on it to support their families and in 2008 I let a lot of them down and it really changed how I looked at my position in the community. I pray what I know about how fiat currency works is correct or we’re all fucked.
>>28450247Man I always think about the times I've had really positive interactions with guys here, and whether that person I called a "retarded nigger faggot" in the other thread was actually the same dude.
>>28449809Our country is worse than anyone when it comes to crypto. US politicians who do nothing but beat their chests over how free and democratic the country is will pass shit that no one asked for and spend their entire careers sucking off any lobbyist willing to give them a buck.How the fuck did we let them get away with taxing crypto to crypto transactions?They use poor stupid niggers being poor and stupid as an excuse to tax anything that even resembles an investment.The poor stupid nigger does nothing but stay poor and act stupid, so the politicians are always able to prop them up as a way to excuse taking money from people who take the risk with their money.The ultimate fuck you to the American tax payer is the fact that insider trading IS NOT illegal for US Congressmen. That is literally "rules for thee and not for me"Mark my words, the next few years it's going to be damn near impossible to make it if you don't have a large amount of capital to begin with. They want us all to join the stupid nigger in complacency and let them squeeze out the last drops of this nation's lifeblood.
>>28450589Helping others is a good thing
>>28449423I don’t used lumber so I can’t comment on how it’s price and supply work. Electrical material price has basically reverted to 2019 prices.
>>28450754Why not hedge
>>28451103Hedge what?
>>28434419Guts say that because you have too much money in. Sell some and see how your guts feeling is starting to change
>>28451003That's odd that the price corrected. With copper price steadily moving upwards this year, too. At any rate I don't think our problems in this regard are going away for long. We were expecting 2008 as well, no calls for months, instead we get unprecedentedly swamped with work while random things disappear from the shelves inexplicably. We couldn't find the basic blue plastic remodel boxes anywhere last electrical job we did - had to buy premium ones at 5x cost. Something just seems off about it, and last year's shortages at the grocery too.
>>28444172>85k down to 55kdo you shit green lines out of your ass
>>28450857Exactly. Just know that if I ever told you to fucking kill yourself, I didn't mean it.
>>28450904The plan as far as I can see for US politicians is to squeeze out the middle class.That way they have a poor and compliant universal basic income Fedcoin population who must suck on the govt teat to even survive, and the ultra rich who own all the assets and prop up the politicians.
>>28452360This. Yes wire is slowly moving up but I’ve always locked the price for wire for a big job when I get the contract or if it’s a regular contractor I lock in the big wire cuts price at the beginning of the contract.
>>28449886>cashed outLOL YOU LITERALLY SOLD FOR USD? ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD? HAHAHAHAHA
>>28453183fuck you bitch. I bought a shit ton of precious metals and paid off some debts. fuck you and your 10 Linkies.
>>28453304>10 linkiesLOL SURE BUD LIKE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE HERE IN 2017 LMMMAAOOO>debtHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>28448972>When Bitcoin dips hard and ETH + Alts continue to go up, I will once again start taking profits and moving into stablecoinsWhat stablecoins do you like best?.t newfag
>>28438799when your mom and sister start asking questions, that's when you know we are about to pop out of the bubble LOL
>>28428895Yeh. Don't get fucking greedy. The top is when the adrenaline junky sociopaths decide to dump.
>>28448790You get zero keys through Robinhood. You just get to speculate on the price and sell. No withdraws or deposits. Most normies getting into crypto now don’t even own a single thing. RH is a cancer.
>>28453823Legit strongest sell signal
>>28432192Congrats anon, this is the most retarded take I've seen yet
>>28453823>>28454112you fell for the bait
>>28429937these people like OP are retarddumb money
clowns, focusing on timing the top when you could be literally printing money now. Same guys who where muhh when alt szn months ago
>>28428895>within a few days accuracyYou got two random parameters (111, and 350) AND a terrible accuracy, with limited test data.This is called over-optimization. Your indicator is probably useless. You are going to have to re-optimize your prediction after this.There is no scientific way to predict a top. Its not like the price just hits a point, then decides to crash. All future prices will be weighted toward 50k. It will likely stay there and retrace there...between 44k-65k or something and you won't be able to sell off and get it back in time.
>indicator
>>28429909The key difference is normies are realizing fiat is a joke. Hyperinflation. I would have cashed out last week if not for this. Who the fuck knows what's going to happen.
>>28453643USDC, never USDT. Best is to just withdraw to your bank or credit card.
This is honestly one of the best-highest quality threads December. My eyes are getting a bit watery when I see that true OG's came together to discuss topic like in the good 2016-2017 days before all that FOMO, pajeets and kikes.WAGMI Frens
>>28438561Uh oh, retard alert
>>28455188*since december 2017
>>28445472Grayscale owns 2% of all LTC. I just sold my LTC stack for some AKRO. Please don't moon yet.
>>28447936We are truly in the hands of neurotic incompetent retards who want to kill us.
>>28447348>>28448573Sign that normies & boomers are getting more educated about the space btw if crypto > btc
>>28450591Yes that's exactly what I said, I'm glad you can at least read despite being a dumb faggot
>>28454952One big cocaine-fueled meteor crashing down on my hopes and dreams.
>>28428895There is no top, all fiat currencies are going down hard and commodities going up insanely high , we will see masive inflation eoy worldwide specially on food which will trigger massive strikes around the world and increase in wages paid by more inflation in a loop.
>>28445374this indicator is mixed at best, you can't really assume everyone who wants in is just gonna search "bitcoin" to get into it, most people who would buy BTC are at least already aware of bitcoin. if you start mixing other searches in thinking "what would I as a normie google to start getting into btc trading?", you get similar results to just "bitcoin" sometimes, but sometimes not so much
>>284321924-dimensional retard
>>28450857Am I the only one who feels like biz has become less hostile over the past several years? Could be that I've gotten used to it, but I swear people on here are generally more decent to each other now - it's really jarring lmao
>>28439427Next week
As much as I want to sell for massive profit, I know what I have now is not enough, and I'd definitely want to kms if I missed out on $100k or $250k BTC this cycle. I know I wont be able to multiply my stack on stocks as easily as it is to simply buy and hold crypto.
>>28441676>>28441576/thread
>>28454922Tbf it's all tea-leaves and guess work, but it's clear that there are patterns among certain fundamental indicators and market movements. Using one as a silver bullet isn't going to work, but making use of several is likely to actually be useful. Though only provided those indicators are able to capture the data they're fundamentally trying to model correctly AND that data is actually correlated to the market movement you're trying to predict. Whether some of these technicals are inherently useful, or have gone through survivorship bias of being the few that luckily enough still hold true and haven't been proven useless yet is the big question.
>>28429909I'm gonna unironically go completely off the RHODL index.BZB+1
Glow nigger thread
>>28455188Thanks fren - Take this golden pepe for luck.
Let me make the "new paradigm!" case...Institutions are buying and normies are buying. Surely this is bullish? They'll not go BACK to fiat or even stonks.Ok, so the bear case. If institutions are buying large volumes, they can also dump large volumes and since normies are getting in, they'll get fucking spooked and accelerate any dump. There's also the issue of the stock market. If it collapses because capital is fleeing into the crypto, an insolvency event or crash in the stock market will tear down crypto as people have to sell assets to pay off debts. All the capital going into crypto is financed by unprecedented fiat printing and debt issuance. Crypto will be hit hard by a stock market crash.
>>28432192What the hell are you even talking about? Hyperinflation is the foremost purpose of bitcoin in the first place. People running for the exits in USD will look for any and all escape points. That will lead them, inexorably, to Bitcoin.
>>28444802>Zero chanceDead wrong and let me tell you why. Bitcoin maximalists insist that everything needs to happen on chain, but the fact is that centralized services like Visa and Mastercard (which both announced planned BTC integration this month) will be a big part of that. It's contrary to the decentralized narrative, but the harsh reality is not quite the libertarian utopia. Legacy systems will persist, but will hang on, providing the ability to scale to ungodly transactions per second with only the final amounts eventually settled on-chain in large batches. I caution people to look past what they want out of Bitcoin as fundamentalists, and rather to see what it will likely become as an ecosystem working within the existing framework while still retaining it's own independence of sorts.
>>28458083Nigger mastercard says buy algorand
>>28446757De dollarization is a real thing. It's happening all around you right now in China and Russia whether you choose to accept it or not. Europe will have the opportunity to settle in something besides USD and that is a grave danger to the reserve status.
>>28455721If you actually held from the 2017 top through the bear market you are a dumb fucking nigger and should never give financial advice to anyone
>>28447573According to the announcement from BNY Mellon, this is not in the cards.
>>28445261big brain
>>28439336Stupid monkey didn't pull the pin. Also lol'ing at the retards who have any respect for "institutional investors". These greedy fucks go bankrupt left and right all the time. And for a group of people who hate institutions they sure do like when they get into crypto because it makes their bags go up. Here's a protip, these banks and hedge funds can't afford to not be bullish, if they are they lose customers, that's why in every single crash in history they follow each other off the cliff. They literally have to or they'll lose money, whether it be in the short run or the long run.
>>28459543I wouldn't bet on that.Lots of little hats in the Biden admin. They will always do whatever is best for the (((tribe))).
>>28441298> he's so scared he had to leave a comment about a guy taking profits to make himself feel better. cope
>>28441576Post it
who cares about your tea leaves?I'm not cashing out til june period
>>28428895i don't time the top, i DCA monthly. bear market, bull market, rain or shine faggot. no point in selling anymore. unless you're in the alt casino. then god help you if u try to time this shit. i remember people selling at 6k, 11k, 17k and then 17k, 11k, 6k. i saw some poor faggot on youtube "buy the dip" in 2018 at 8k thinking it was the bottom. you're never going to get it right.
>>28428895It’s gonna be $54200.69Source: just trust me bro
>>28457499Fucking same old tired talking point moving goal posts about why bitcoin is worth more than 1 dollar. Simple answer is its a speculative asset, nothing more. Run back to r/bitcoin and tell them you posted it again. You might get some moons out of it.
>>28455822This. The game is only really starting now.
>>28441576Yep youre 100% right, I remember many celebrities with hundreds of millions of followers tweeting about altcoins at the start of 2017Oh no sorry scratch that you're just a delusional retard
>>28461435WHAT THE FUCK ISN'T A SPECULATIVE ASSET YOU DICKFUCK?
>>28428895I know exactly the 14-day range this will occur, but sorry I can't spill the beans or it won't happen
>>28430480timing tops and bottoms is straightforward at the time frame extremitiest. made it
>>28462425Elaborate
>>28447115It worked because it was retrofitted though
>>28459261What are chinas real gold reserves like I wonder. what if they team up with Russia/Venezuela/Iran to bootstrap+force sale of energy/rare earths in gold backed currency. what if bitcoin is somehow tied up in this as the us desperately tries to fight dedollarization under the guise of (((terrorist financing))).what if PMs moon (In dollar terms) in response to USD demand dropping. how do CBDCs fit into this .... why is China first at CBDCs .... will PMs and energy become reserve assets over petrodollar ... or will it be GasGoldRubleYuan ... or will energy buyers remain hostage to the dollar ... or will reserve assets and exchange mediums decouple , with PM as reserve and a basket of currencies on hand as trading currency .... how will sanctions be enforced .... or do we just return to a Cold War world with 2 trading blocs
>>28462608>>>/x/
>>28431426Only 1 Link? You are not gonna make it fren.
>>28462513Zoom In
>>28433148getting a few %/year is better than nothing
>>28443745>>28445261Largely agreed with these two posters, the1) macro conditions are vastly different2) while retail FOMO and sentiment levels are similar to 2017, today's Defi usecase vastly mogs the ICOs and the steaming pile of shit we saw in 2017 that claimed to have value.I really think that the thesis of decentralization and DeFi is what will make or break this cycle imo. In 2017 crypto was barely functional and only a handful of shitcoins outside of BTC/ETH could be considered, but without access to external data smart contracts were essentially useless.I think that other than just looking at cycle indicators (which are debatable as to its accuracy in future predictions) I much prefer to look at some big brain takes by Sergey and some of the guys in the space right now:TLDR you are basically long crypto if you are a LINKie that believes in the adoption cycle of DeFi (and smart contracts as a whole).
>>28462699checkedthe GasGoldRubleYuan scenario has been war game at pentagon, excluding crypto and CBDC components (source: Jim Rickards ‘currency wars’)
>>28432192>interest rates going up>buy bonds
>>28435118I mean isn't it beautiful. You hand people money and at the same time shill internet coins and then you pnd on them and put the money back into the bank of institutions. It's really a circular system if you think about it and maybe that's why the bull keeps on running without inflation kicking in...yet.
>>28463041Just to add on to what I said, notice how bullish Sergey is as a whole on the adoption of DeFi:>https://twitter.com/SergeyNazarov/status/1359316951210749952Not to mention on the Binance livestream a week or so back where he dropped some hyperedpills on fiat, hyperinflation and the problem of yield.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dJ9q0z_94And lastly how can anyone forget this screencap and the thesis Sergey puts across as "Defi eats Cefi"?We are in a different stage of the game now where crypto has some real adoption and valuation metrics. I think this bull run may shock people.
>>28463081needless to say the eastern bloc won that war game
>>28439802That’s fucking it? Your indicator is normie adoption??
>>28428895Well the good news is it wont crash literally overnight, you'll have a decent 48 hours to move into usdc/t and ride the dip then dca in at the bottom and wait 3 years to triple your stack.
>>28429325i thought so to but elon reversed the trend, for now...
>>28429937kys
>>28463679Honestly I saw it as a huge sell signal. While mass adaption should send us into another realm pricewise, and I'm not arguing that 50k BTC isn't already there, normies kill everything they touch.
>>28429909JANNIES SHUT THIS POST DOWN. THIS IS A SECRET GRAPH