/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28311840
unironically the only trustworthy and low-risk advice on /biz/
there's tons of gains to be made in the crypto world, but btc is the only one that is almost risk free in the long run
just remember that once you put some money into btc, don't expect to cash out within the next 3-5 years

>>28311840
I'm not buying at 45k.

>>28312476
You will regret that when it's back tapping on 50k at the end of this week

Change btc with bnb then you got some solid advice

>>28312476
>don't think it's too late, it's never late, FIATs will always keep bleeding purchasing power

Based maxichad. AVAX and BTC is all I need.

>>28312308
>once you put some money into btc, don't expect to cash out within the next 3-5 years
this
invest only the savings you don't plan to spend for the next few years
if you try to buy bitcoin (or in general for any kind of investment) for a quick flip, you might be forced to sell at a loss if you need these money to pay the rent
i understand some people rush into cheap shitcoins for quick 10X because they start with 100$ (80% will probably lose it all), but if you are in the lucky 20%, as soon as your start consolidating gains, you should definitely convert all shitcoin gains into sats, or you will inevitably watch them bleed to zero against bitcoin in the long term
if you don't believe me, pick any 2017 shitcoin, select the monthly chart, and watch the painful multi-year non-stop sats bleeding

>>28312476
Anon in Dec
>I'm not buying at $18k

BUY BCH

>>28312540
>>28312683
We can't reason with boomers. They live in their own fantasy world and yell at anything they don't understand.

>>28311840
pretty based advice yes. but i want to make it in less than a decade so i'm holding link bnt and inj too.

>>28311840
>buying near ATH ever
bro..

>>28312791
Y u samefag tho?

Thank you based pasta poster

>>28311840
I heard this shit already with GME

Nice try Elon

>>28312476
then set buy limits on the way down an pray someone will bite them and keep some money for some flash crash to buy a sudden dip
but don't expect btc will crash back to 5k or some other unrealistic price, keep in mind microstrategy bought from 11 to 24k, tesla bought in january above 30 and oracle is next
apple and amazon financial chiefs are probably watching as well

>>28313040
the current ATH will be the price it crashes to in a couple of years

100k by EoY easy

am crypto noob
opinions about binance ? what happens when I register my personal information ? is it really a chinese company ?

>>28311840
how do i keep my bitcoin offline

is nobody else concerned about what's going to happened when all BTC is mined out? Who's gonna pay for all the mining farms that support your "decentralized" currency?

>>28312476

lol everyone says this when it pumps, and then everyone deeply regrets it 3-4 years later. Deeply. Regrets.

>>28312476
Better 45k than 450k

>>28313560
why would anyone need to pay for mining farms when there is nothing left to mine

>>28313560
this aint how bitcoin works

>>28313705
because they're also the network that allows transactions???

>>28313810
the network existing does not rely on chinese mining farms

>>28313537
ledger cold wallet (dont own one, though)

>>28313560
tx fees are already between 10% and 20% of the block reward and we are only in 2021

>>28313560

May 7th, 2140

Can you even fathom what technology will look like in the year 2100? You cannot.

Imagine being the kind of person that looks at linear graphs of btc. See you all in 2030 when we hit 1M

>>28313941
well whats the cheaper alternative hoow do you yourself do it? if not with a ledger wallet

>>28312826

gtfo out of here with this shit. BCH WILL NEVER BE A THING, JUST STOP.

>>28314144
paper wallet

>>28313902
yes it unironically does
>>28313701
maxis are delusional

>>28314216
what you mean by this

>>28312826

You lost, Jihan. Fucking get over it.

>>28314256
write your private key on a piece of paper
white 10 years
shoot yourself when BTC is at 1.000.000 and you've mispelled the key on your piece of paper.

>>28314256
https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org/archive/master.zip
download and extract the zip
switch off the internet connection and preferably use a linux live distro so you don't have malwares all around
open bitaddress.org.html
move around the mouse
you will have a private key and a public key as a result
do a backup, print the key pair, store it offline (don't leave these files in your pc nor in your email)
>private key
keep it secret, don't give it to anyone, offline, print the private key and the qr codes and put it in your vault at home
with the private key you can spend your btc
>public key
is the key where you can receive money, so when you choose the withdrawal address, you have to use your public key

>>28314618
i have a nas i can keep that shit on and write it down a billion times how

>>28311840
Low IQ advice.
Great minds accumulate money and buy BTC as it dips.
You can buy x2-5 amount of BTC for same amount of money.

>>28311840
I don't have anything to buy BTC with. I don't want to work a shitty job for crumbs. I am literally dying inside whenever I am employed somewhere. I absolutely hate 99% people and can't hold a job for longer than 3 months. It disgusts me when my time isn't truly mine. Are you all getting NEETbux or do you force yourself to wageslavery?

>>28311840
good advice, but I have no desire to wageslave for a decade, I need my fuck you money now and can keep a BTC for the end of times

>>28314712
don't keep them in your pc at all, do all the operations offline, and in case do a backup using optical discs (e.g. a dvd is way more durable then an sd card, flash memories gets corrupted after 1/2 years without being used)
store the private keys or the 24 word seed offline, don't leave them in your pc, don't upload them somewhere on the internet

>>28314214
>>28314305

found the retards

>>28314713
>Great minds
great minds are like 1% of the population and even in that case you might need more luck than skills
my advice is obviously more conservative and it works for everyone

>>28314713
Low IQ advice

tHere's no way to know if BTC is going to dip from its current point or keep bullrunning.

>>28314989
alright, well, can i do this with all my other shitcoins too like chainlink and etherum or should i just focus on bit coin

reminder to also keep a copy of your seed words somewhere at another safe place you fully trust, like your parent's house or whatever. you never know if your house might burn down and you lose your only copy of your seed words

>>28312476
loool have fun staying poor retard

>>28315234
the key managements advice applies for every coin

>>28312476
fool

>>28315478
ok...thx...i have a lot of cds from 2004 that dont have anything on them but i think it would be wise to buy some more and burn the stuff to each and every disc in there....store them across areas i trust my grandmas house grandpas house and a rent a storage vac....mas house pas house...also what methods are you currently using

>>28314713
If you want to dedicate your life to trading AND you are high IQ this is possible. For all us normans, high iq people specializing in other things, and derpers, DCA is the way

>>28313492
buy > wallet dont store i think....let me think this over and ill see what i can do

>>28314713
Nah, you're just a gambling, low iq fuckwit. You can't know 100% if it's a dip.

>>28311840

I’m fucking ready baby

>>28315755
and betting on a coin to go up infinitely is not gambling

>>28311840
>buying the top
You are buying Lindsey Lohan's bags

>>28312791
>bleeding
so, buy the dip?

>>28312540
>>28312683
>>28312810
>>28313587
>>28313701
>>28315444
>>28315554
I just recently got into crypto and my current plan for btc is to wait for the next big dip. I'm not in a hurry. Are you saying this will never come?

>>28313278
Will take this into consideration ty

>>28313902
It does though

>>28315938
Exactly. I am not doing that either.

>>28315599
i do like this
>encrypt the keys in a rar archive with a strong pass and 100% error correction redundancy (it will have double of the size, but protect against archive corruption)
>put the encrypted rar archive inside a truecrypt partition with a second strong pass
>compress again the truecrypt partition with 100% error correction redundancy (just to protect again against archive corruption)
>burn them in several dvd, cd, sdcards, etc.
so even the files gets corrupted over time, they are most likely recoverable, anyway optical discs are pretty solid for 10/20 years at least (probably much much more)

>>28316089
It will dip but it's not going to be like 2017 where it's parabolic. You'll get like 5k-(maybe) 10k dips from here on out because Bitcoin is getting institutional buy in. Don't wait for the normie FOMO to get some.

>>28316218
sounds kino...hopefully we are still alive in 10-20 yrs to reap our rewards brother

>>28315755
>>28315216
>>28315601
Stfu low IQ peasants.
Just look at this chart. If you can't understand the cycling you might be literally retarded.

>>28312791
I started with 200€ about 4 months ago and I'm at ~1000€ right now. Been just flipping BTC daily like it was gear in runescape.

>>28314840
Most people hate working but it allows you to invest more.

>>28316732
you're literally retarded

>>28316732
if bezos wakes up and put 100B in BTC, all charts and models are useless

>>28311840
>don't keep your btc in an exchange
Why?

>>28313902
The network does relay on the block reward. It may be more profitable for china to perform 51% attacks in that case.

Likely won't happen. Also there will just be 50$ fees.

>>28317127
lol

>>28312476

>I'm not buying at $9K!

>>28316089
>>28316254

Bruh right now is the dip. It hit 48k and has just gone down to 43.7k
It might do this again when it hits 50k, it might go back down to 45k but this is about as low as it's going for a while.
It might just power through 50k to 51-52k and then we wont see it below 49k for a while

>>28315292
Good guy anon strikes again.

>>28311840
>JUST HODL

I’ve only been on biz since like September. I’ve invested about $4k, which has become about $23k. Entirely from LINK/ETH/shitcoins.
Can someone please redpill me on if I should sell for BTC? Maybe half of it? Or maybe have a Bitcoin DCA portfolio? I have a side job and could basically put every check into Bitcoin as a sort of risky(?) savings account.
I’m bullish on BTC in the long term but I also don’t want to miss out on the alts bull run that could escalate in the near future.

>>28317049
because they can get hacked in mt gox style
because cuckbase might freeze your account for some stupid reasons
because your shitty government request exchanges to do so
because they can be lost by the exchange
because they can be confiscated by authorities upon request
because withdrawing your BTC offline it literally costs nothing (maybe a couple of dollars) and you can keep full custody and obtain full financial sovereignty, it means nobody can stop spending the BTC, nobody can seize it
trust me, i've been there, it's not funny when you lose access to what your consider "your" BTC
it's not "your" unless you have the private keys

>>28317503
don't sell if you don't need to, diversification in my opinion is always good, however you should listen to OP on the security advice so that you don't ever get fucked over

>>28317619
Does Exodus keep private keys? I know it's a pretty newb wallet.

Daily reminder that maxis are greedy simpletons and you mustn't buy their bags. :3

>>28311840
>DAILY REMINDER
FUCK OFF

>>28317619
Fair enough. Doesnt sound very feasible for me since I'm buying/selling daily.

>>28311840
Based.

>>28311840
>$45k stablecoin

>>28317938
i think so
however i'm paranoid and i use Bitcoin Core only
i believe in BTC so i keep running a couple of full nodes

>>28318024
do you trade with the entire stack?
consider sending some of them to a cold wallet so you don't get tempted by every shitcoin and you keep accumulating some sats
i don't trade at all, every time i press a button i basically just give free money to the exchange

>>28315234
I dont think you can do offline transaction like you can with bitcoin on shitcoins like chainlink.. bitcoin is robust and allow many different ways of doing things cause it's a real cryptocurrency.

>>28317960
>what maxis really want to happen
a few icbm targeting all major central banks and fiat collapsing
my focus is not on btc vs eth vs other crypto (they can be useful for everyone)
my focus is shitting on fiats
>stablecoins
not at all, they are backed by fake fiat money printed out of thin air, scamming entire generations with inflation
if you want to understand the battle i'm fighting look at the pic

>>28311840
i shorted your scam shitcoin 20x at 46600 and i will ride it back down to 4 digits and theres nothing you can do about it.

>>28311840
Fuck no. During alt season I'm in alts and frequently take profit in both fiat and by converting back to BTC.

>>28312810
december of 2017 right? yeah that dude sounded smart for not buying at 18k

>>28313902

>>28319055
>i shorted your scam shitcoin 20x at 46600
anon I...
corporations are entering in this moment, please be aware

>>28315738
I'm more worried about giving my personal data to china
perfect way imo is cold wallet (like ledger/trezor) after buying them somewhere like binance

>>28317960
wrong, pic related is what will actually happen

Just got started a week ago. About 500 in btc, doge, link, Ada. I would like to just throw in 1k at a shitcoin here pretty soon and just hope it moons. What should that be, uni, grt, aave,?

>>28319450
call me a schizo but i think ledger and trezor are backdoors...i will be doing it the hard way with discs usb and sd cards

>>28319520
Something that is in a trading range and hasn't mooned significantly yet.

Good luck ever cashing out faggots
>50+ percent tax or running from uncle Sam for fucking forever
There really is no way out of this slavery

>>28319624
never, heard of this way before, but how do you get these keys ?
am a total crypto noob and want to learn what this fuzz is all about

>>28319824
Have you tried not being a burger?

>>28319824
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Kitts_and_Nevis_passport
you can buy it with btc btw

>>28313902
it does you fucking retard. bitcoin needs to mine like 2000 something blocks before difficulty is adjusted. china has such a big slice of the hash power that if they all stopped it would unironically get stuck hard frozen. not to mention that with lower hash rate people would lose trust in the network

All you need is Bitcoin and Monero.

Bitcoin is your savings account, Monero is your checking. Buy and hold and forget about the price. You won’t ever have to sell them.

>>28319904
https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v3.3.0-SHA256-dec17c07685e1870960903d8f58090475b25af946fe95a734f88408cef4aa194.html

>>28319905
<Spoiler>I'm a leaf

I'm not buying at these prices.
Train has left the station.

>>28320207
Aren't most farms in China not even owned by chinese?

>>28318970
>they are backed by fake fiat money printed out of thin air
Not at all. Some of the most popular are, but they can be backed by smart-contract reserve or algorithmic techs.

>>28311840
Also I love how retards always start making this stupid reminder at the top of the cycle rather than back when we were sub 6k

Literally what happens when China does a 51% attack after the dollar hyperinflates and even hardcore normies are putting their life savings into this shit? Do we just accept our new life living in I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream?

>>28319132
dec of 2020 nigger

>>28319389
the only garbage entering your scam market is counterfeit USD from tether LTD and money from the man child cult leader elon musk because hes going through a mid life crisis. no one else is pumping your worthless bags

>>28320556
>in china
>not owned by the CCP
point at this retard and laugh at him

I bought £50 of BTC on Binance.

To transfer this to my external wallet it will cost £16.

Wtf is this scam

>>28320556
foreigners own most farms in a communist country?
This will end well

>>28320875
>counterfeit USD from tether LTD
all USD are fake money anyway

>>28312881
This is literally you though. Btc will top.

>>28321077
something you'd know before you bought if you weren't a retard FOMOing in

>>28320556
Oh sweetie...

22 million satlet here. should I swing to usdc at 100k-120k and buy back in the impending crash?

I would buy some Bitcoin but Gemini won't hurry up and verify me after 13 (business) days waiting. What is taking so long?

>>28321077
mfw
so how I can get crypto to external wallet without butt-hurting fees ? is it a fixed fee or in % ?

>>28321195
>"Btc will top"
>t. angry boomer yelling at things he doesn't understand
Thanks captain faggot obvious. That doesn't mean I don't understand Bitcoin, fucking kill yourself.

>>28321077
i got chinked too by binance, small spot trades profits are automatically negated by the 1% fee. and if you have some religious ban on taking interest you can kiss meaningfulll profits goodbye

>>28321138
but one has one of the strongest militaries in the world backing it up. big difference retard

>>28321405
Kraken is only like 5.5 eur to move right now. I got 200 euro there but I'm not moving it before putting some more.

>>28311840
My man, I maxed out literally everything I had. My average is 32k with 0,21BTC. I plan on adding $100 per week (slavpoor). Should I rob someone for more BTC? Why will 0,56 BTC put me in top 20%? Kindly elaborate good sir, do the needful

>>28320762
>Also I love how retards always start making this stupid reminder at the top of the cycle
shut up moron
>>/biz/thread/S23434596
>>/biz/thread/S22989631
>>28320663
elastic supply tokens are pure bullshit

>>28313560
with how much chaos halvenings cause you think more people would see the writing on the wall

>>28321800
yes

>>28321844
>elastic supply tokens are pure bullshit
Yes they are, but it's not the only possible tech in algorithmic stablecoin.

ok so you hold it till... 100k?

>>28321844
wow, October you must really be an oldfag
LMAO

>>28315913
based

>>28315913
>no XLM
ngmi

>mfw newfags complaining about tx fees
yes when you actually move bitcoin from wallet to wallet (instead of ious on an exchange) you have to pay out the ass
hope you don’t think you’re buying digital cash

>>28315913
what app is this?

>>28322019
shut up moron
october is when i started the daily reminders but i'm on biz for several years already
btw october 22 btc was 12k, it did a +400% from there, moron
btc has no top, moron

>>28322708
Yeah, bubbles do not have tops
and they do not have time limits
who cares if BTC pops in 10-20 years from now, now is the time to make gains and just sell before something new comes along or I dunno, WW3

>>28321800
you will be living in the streets very soon

>>28319132
wow faggot so funny you absolute schmuck

>>28322907
btc has no top because fiat have no bottom
it's very easy to understand
there are some moments where btc price goes out of control, but in the long term it will always keep breaking ATH while USD keeps breaking ATL
the debt-based system creates a growing debt spiral, and sooner or later ALL FIATS COLLAPSE OVER THE TIME

>>28323137
go kill yourself i want all you greedy animals to lose everything. i dont even want you to have a marginal loss i wish every day that the tether scam gets exposed and this entire market blows up with no survivors. exchanges shut down and everyone loses all their money. thats what you people deserve and you will get it. fucking disgusting greedy animals you all deserve to go live in the streets

>>28322708
>I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS
>links thread from only a few months ago with different advice
lol you weren't telling people to buy every week in October and now you are? Just admit you are totally clueless. I suppose buy the top and hold is the only strategy that might viably work in the longrun for a brainlet like you

>>28323314
go kill yourself i want all you greedy animals to lose everything. i dont even want you to have a marginal loss i wish every day that the central banking scam gets exposed and this entire spiraling-debt-based-fiat-system blows up with no survivors. kike banks shut down and everyone loses all their fiat money. thats what you people deserve and you will get it. fucking disgusting greedy animals you all deserve to go live in the streets

>>28323303
I hope you aren't one of those people who respond to post-scarcity by burning down the house to bring back scarcity

how do i buy things with my paper wallet? i dont want to post my private key into any internet fields, that sounds like a surefire way to get it stolen

>>28323377
>I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS
i have been doing this for years
i started the daily reminders on 22 oct 2020
problems, moron?

>>28320762
>rather than back when we were sub 6k
They did you just didn't listen or couldn't see the forest for the trees (shit coin threads). All of my BTC purchases were between 3400 - 13000 in 2019 with an average cost of a tick over 6600. I'M NEVER SELLING. OP speaks truth.

>>28323551
when you want to spend them, you can import the private key into bitcoin core or other wallets (i suggest bitcoin core anyway)

>>28323460
bitcoin cant be used as a currency you subhuman animal. the only disgusting rats here are you and the fucking disgusting shills and keep desperately trying to pump this shit market. it started as cash, then went for "muh store of value digital gold" then went to "its ok to get pumped by shady counterfeit USD created by some unregulated shit company in the bahamas because FED also does it".

reality is you people have no principals. this isnt about overthrowing banks, this is about making profit like the blind greedy animals that all of you are. you talk about the kikes but you are exposing yourself as equally greedy and shameless as them. fucking go kill yourself and may god implode this market soon and force all of you to live in the streets

>>28323377
>lol you weren't telling people to buy every week in October and now you are?
i was, moron
>>/biz/?ghost=yes&task=search&search_text=%22DON%27T%20FUCK%20IT%20UP%20ANON%22&offset=24

https://soundcloud.com/yeethewarlock/sacred-economics-ep-1-macro-101

https://soundcloud.com/yeethewarlock/sacred-economics-ep-2-supply-issuance

https://soundcloud.com/yeethewarlock/sacred-economics-ep-3-pertinent-scalability

>>28320556
No, the farms are definitely Chinese, but a lot of foreign miners join Chinese hash pools, making it look like the majority of hashing power comes from China

>>28323983
take your top-buying DCAing to >>reddit bro

>>28323881
>reality is you people have no principals
i do, and i try to save people from gambling on shitcoins or going leveraged and getting rekt
>this isnt about overthrowing banks
yes it is
>this is about making profit
the point is that you cannot stop btc
the ones passing the iq test earlier get the benefits
btc will keep growing regardless of what you think

>>28324126
>12k
>top-buying
pick one, moron

>>28324290
>HURR DURR YOU CANT STAPH DA BITCONE!!1!!111!
literally just send a governmental order to close all centralized exchanges and bitcoin nose dives to triple digits in 1 day. all "eheheh muh decentralized cone unstoppable!" are either willfully lying to the people or are unironically retarded.
and btw you arent early at all. even if you got in on 2017, youre still not early, delusional moron.

>>28324657
>literally just send a governmental order to close all centralized exchanges
it would be funny to watch the government commit suicide, probably half of the senators have BTC at this point btw
you cannot stop math, if you fight btc you only make it stronger
btw corporations are buying, giga-funds (like blackrock) are in, billionaires are in, there is no way back
i hope you realize this

>>28324657
>govt order to close all centralized exchanges
don't need to. this will happen on it's own, just look at the bitcoin outflow charts from exchanges. why do you think they keep listing so many shit coins?
>nose dives to triple digits
nope too many people like me with a 7 figure net worth would go all in. if bitcoin ever dumps below 15k again i would sell my business and go all in. never going to happen.
>2017 isn't early
it is. look at any adoption curve chart. anyone buying up to bitcoin regaining the 10k level in 2019 - 2020 is the early minority. we are currently in the late minority stage, then comes the late majority, and finally people like you.

it's ok anon. after the anger phase come acceptance. you'll understand when you're older, and hopefully it isn't too late.

>>28325159
so a couple of paragraphs above you were saying that bitcoin was fighting the central bank and now youre saying that all the elite is in on bitcoin? so which is it you greedy animal? get your narrative straight please

>>28325382
>and now youre saying that all the elite is in on bitcoin?
i'm saying even central banks will have no choice but to buy btc

>>28325558
it's already starting. there were a few countries in 2019-2020 that went to the IMF and said they wanted to issue bonds backed by bitcoin to prop up their failing currencies. bitcoin won, we just have to watch it play out over the next 2 decades.

>>28325558
this is the most delusional thing ive ever seen written in my entire life. imagine believing that literal trillionaires that have ruled the world for centuries are scared of a coin that would get absolutely obliterated if major nations like usa and china wrote a simple order like pic related.

if btc wins, its because they let it happen. you are fucking mentally ill if you think central banks cant stop it.

>>28324392
you're still buying right now and you never take profits

Or buy reef, next 100x

>>28325961
>you are fucking mentally ill if you think central banks cant stop it.
yeah, guess which people are crying in nigeria right now, the ones with the bitcoins or the ones without?
they literally cannot stop it
why do you think they are rushing to roll out cbdc? cause they will bomb you with msm propaganda trying to brainwash you telling you that their cbdc is similar to btc or even better because they will also airdrop you some UBI while they keep stealing away your purchasing power
you cannot ban math moron
the cat is out of the bag
embrace btc now or pay the consequences later
I WILL NEVER SWITCH BACK TO FIAT
NEVER

>>28321420
Lmao at your impotent rage

>>28326011
this is correct
i'm waiting for a 100k payment split in 4 months
so i'm gonna put 25k per month in BTC starting from march, regardless of the price, i never keep any FIATs for more than 1 day
if i need to buy groceries and pay the rent i use my binance visa card with 0.05 BTC on it, while 99% of my networth is in BTC in a cold wallet

>>28326349
thanks for all these delusional ramblings. cant wait to post it once tether gets fucked by the feds and governments worldwide issue a cryptocurrency ban because of it.
unfortunatelly you might not be able to see me laugh at you as you will be too poor to pay internet bill and will be living in the streets by then.

>>28314049
There won't be BTC in 2030 fool
NWO will put its own mandatory crypto everywhere by then

>>28326569
thanks for all these delusional ramblings. cant wait to post it once FED and ECB start buying BTC (oh by the way, probably they already started, but we cannot audit central banks balance sheets (((for some reason))) )
unfortunatelly you might not be able to see me laugh at you as you will be too poor to pay internet bill with your UBIbux. But you can eat ze bugs...

>>28326849
the funniest part is that there wont even be a bear market. they will just pump this into a super mania frenzy and then pull the plug completely with major crackdowns so severe none of you will be able to cash out 1 single cent. and that will one of the many catalysts that will enable the great reset. all you morons will put at least 80% of your net worth into crypto and watch it evaporate right in front of your eyes.

>>28326569
your financial ineptitude is mind boggling. cocaine is illegal too anon. guess what? it is literally worth more than gold at the street level in most, if not all 1st world countries. banning something or making it illegal doesn't mean shit. just like with the importation of drugs, governments can't enforce a crypto ban, fuck they can't even manage stimulus checks distributed in a currency they 100% control.

>>28312476
I said this at 20k ,I even said it at 1k,luckily I bought some in between

>>28327385
cocaine is still around because cianiggers use the money to fund their black ops on the sandbox you stupid motherfucker. EVERYTHING is allowed by them. if you able to do something, its because they allowed you to do so. NEVER forget that

>>28314144
just download the electrum.org wallet

>>28314669
the fuck is wrong with u

>>28327181
>none of you will be able to cash out 1 single cent
we don't want to cash out moron
keep your shitty fiat
keep your shitty cbdc
if they ban btc, a complete parallel economy will emerge
if they continue with crackdowns we also have an <unknown amount> of monero on the side
YOU CANNOT STOP US

>>28327589
as delusional as the GME cultists. god, i cant wait to see all of you get BTFO. it will be amazing

>>28327709
>GME cultists
how is this even remotely related?

>>28311840
Most based post I've seen all week in this shithole
You are spot on, BTC is invaluable compared to fiat

>>28327797
>we dont want to cash out
>we will never sell
>hurr durr
you will go bankrupt and no one will give a fuck about it. same thing happened to the GME cultits. kys

>>28323551
>write the key on a core wallet running on offline computer
>use it to sign transactions or export to a more convenient hardware wallet (Ledger, Trezor, ...)

>>28314840

>cant get an income because retarded
ur ngmi

>>28327885
>you will go bankrupt
no i won't, i have no debts, rare skills, 2 companies bringing fresh cashflow, and even if i restart from 0 i will never be poor

>>28327589
Hidden rule of life: anyone who believe to be unstoppable will be stopped.

>>28313040
this

>>28327181
>wont be able to cash out 1 single cent
i'm never cashing out. fiat always goes to zero. you ever heard of the british pound sterling? history lesson: when it was put into circulation 1 pound sterling note was redeemable for 12 oz of fine silver. In usd terms that would be $325.80 today. know what a british pound to usd actually is today? $1.38. I'll always keep the bitcoin, even if they try to ban it. fuck fiat.
>>28327500
how many antennas do you have on your tin foil hat?

>>28328230
only death or some disease can stop me
i built my fortune from zero, and i can do it again over and over

>>28328344
imagine unironically not knowing that the cia is behind most of the drug trafficking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
fucking normalfags really need to get the fuck back to whatever shithole they came out from

>>28328209
stop replying to this absolute boomernigger you can't rescue everyone

when earth dies in 2050 elon musk will bring us to mars and save us

1 ticket will be worth 1 bitcoin

>>28316732
According to that chart we are either overdue for a downturn or could go on upwards for a year.

>>28328637
>DUDE SPACE LMAO
yeah and im the dumbfuck here. you fucking cultists are in for a rude awakening. hope you are all in tesla and crypto, i fucking hope so.

>>28328619
imagine unironically not knowing the laws of supply and demand control all markets regardless of who the buyers and sellers are, or what the good is, i.e. drugs, fiat currency, bitcoin.

Also
>allegations_of_cia_drug_trafficking
not proof_of_cia_drug_trafficking
I reintroduce my previous question about the quantity of antennas on your tin foil hat anon.

>>28323551
use mycelium on phone read the spend barcode to access funds transfer regularly.

>>28329489
Downturn ofcourse, first bullrun?

>>28312791
this sounds like solid advice but the samefagging is making me suspicious...

Remember everyone, if you've got your crypto keys saved on your windows computer, mobile phone through a text or photo in any way (((they))) have a digital copy of it too
>icucks literally having shit like TikTok keylogging everything

Holy shit BTC really makes some boomers mad

>>28329750
maybe you will also win a nobel prize someday
we are here to make the future instead

>>28330090
>samefagging
what? i have better things to do than write to myself
which post?

>>28322925
Nah, I'm not overleveraged. Used all my spare cash though and sold off some AAPL

>>28312476
Will you buy at 90k in December then?
Anyway yoy should already have plenty of BTC if you are not a newfag

>>28329838
>EVERYTHING IS A LIE UNTIL THE BIG MAN TELLS ME ITS TRUE
>TESTEMONY FROM EX-CIA ASSETS IS WORTHLESS
>EVERYTHING IN THAT LIST IS ALL JUST A BIG COINCIDENCE

Buy BTC now or wait?

>>28330765
>"hey dude look at this retard saying retarded stuff. ahah, now your argument is invalid!"

>>28331492
I wait (until I am able to buy BTC)

>>28331492
buy it. go all in man. max out as many credit cards as you can and put it all in btc. youre gonna make it

>>28316089
dont wait. i remember telling myself ill wait for 7k, it will get there last year. it crabbed around for 10-11k for a while so i was like fuck it and bought at 11k. look where we are now.

>>28331492
I bought in at 46.5k, seems like we're heading toward a 50k floor. The dip is now.

>>28331792
Looking at your other posts you seem like a schizo

>>28331992
yes i am the schizo, the other guys saying that btc will destroy all of central banking are NOT the schizos. and thats why im telling you to go and buy btc with everything that you have, because btc WILL WIN OVER THE BANKING CARTEL! DONT LISTEN TO THOSE SCHIZOS THAT TELL YOU OTHERWISE, BTC IS LITERALLY UNSTOPPABLE. 100K IS GUARANTEED. SELL ALL YOUR POSSESSIONS AND GO ALL IN BTC NOW, WE ARE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

>>28322113
Will 20k XLM at least buy me a house?

>>28331581
listen moron
tesla might be overvalued (i don't own any tesla stock), but it literally kick-started a world changing EV industry, it's unironically the fucking future
never bet against the future
never bet against tech
never bet against world changing inventions
the same will happen with btc, you don't realize it yet, but one day you will be slapping your face for being so thick-headed
god i really want to see your face in complete disbelief once BTC breaks the 100k mark, 200K, 500K, 1M (at this point it will not be BTC going up but USD hyper-inflating)

>>28311840
DAILY REMINDER THE GLOBAL ELITE WANT ALL OF YOU USING THE COIN THAT THEY'VE PUMPED MILLIONS INTO TRACKING
fucking dumbass sheep

>>28324039
just finished first ep good work

>>28330090
where's the samefagging you're referring to?

>>28313560
Anyone reading this right now will be dead when BTC is done being mined.

>All this *new paradigm* talk
Yep, were hitting 10k within the month

>>28311840
Based post but also
>wait for dips
>buy at dips

>>28332463
the only retard here is you that thinks number go up validates his position. on every single bubble in history number went up until one day it stopped going up. bitcoin was a good idea that failed, but instead of the scammy pieces of garbage that control the industry accepting that it failed, they kept trying to come up with new narratives to justify the price. bitcoin was supposed to be about a p2p cash system that supported micro transaction. that was bitcoin was supposed to be. not only it isnt that at all, its not even a "gold like" store of value anymore because it has some fucking disgusting animals printing counterfeit digital USD on the bahamas.

you let your own greed delude yourself and you will get burned at the end of all of this. remember that

>>28331792
>max out as many credit cards
moron
this is what i suggest instead
>>28312791
>invest only the savings you don't plan to spend for the next few years
>if you try to buy bitcoin (or in general for any kind of investment) for a quick flip, you might be forced to sell at a loss if you need these money to pay the rent
>>28332281
>BTC IS LITERALLY UNSTOPPABLE
correct
>100K IS GUARANTEED
it's not guaranteed, but it's just a matter of time
>SELL ALL YOUR POSSESSIONS AND GO ALL IN BTC NOW
no, but DCA, cancel your goyimflix propaganda subscriptions and sell your luxury car for a cheap corolla and try to reduce liabilities in general which is always a good advice
>WE ARE ALL GONNA MAKE IT
WE ARE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

you /biz/ faggots are fucking stupud. (((BITCOIN))) IS OWNED AND CREATED BY (((THEM))), WTF ARE YOU DOING BUYING INTO IT!

>>28333321
this post smells kikery

>>28333258
>it's not guaranteed, but it's just a matter of time
this is how i know im talking to a retarded person. its not guaranteed, just a matter of time? then youre saying its guaranteed? fucking retarded illogical animal
and BTC is unstoppable as in no one can stop you from sending memecurrency from one address to another. they can however absolutely stop you from using your fiat to buy bitcoin through their banking system

>>28333418
no you fucking dumbass. ALL of crypto is owned and controlled by (((them))), they're going to drain you of your wealth. Fiat is the best currency because WE can control it and keep it from (((their))) hands!

>>28333321
>>28333560
you fucking nigger wtf are you talking about? bitcoin was created by a nip, how are (((they))) involved?

>>28333117
>the only retard here is you that thinks number go up validates his position
some assets are inflating at 15% yearly because of USD (not the fake CPI index, i mean the real inflation for real assets)
it's USD going down that validate my position, not the way around
every single FIAT in history loses 99.X% of purchasing power over time, AND THIS IS A FACT

>>28317960
Kek
He thinks people won’t gravitate towards one currency and store of value . You are a deluded midwit

>>28333560
>Fiat is the best currency because WE can control it and keep it from (((their))) hands!
10/10 quality bait bro

>>28332281
Lmao take your pills schizo

>>28333924
STOP CALLING ME A SCHIZO GOD DAMMIT

>>28311840
>HOLD FOR A DECADE
sounds so easy, extremely hard to do

>>28331492
>buy

>>28333889
FIAT is objectively the best form of currency. Why would you let some fucking gold or silver miners control the price when the government can do it. WE are in control of our govt, not the (((people))) who make crypto.

>>28311840
my favorite whale wallet has 40M in assets and basically buys large positions in dev-focused projects like SNX, WHITE, HEGIC, YFI, and holds them forever.

Dude amassed 40m in a year. I'm going to do the same.

Wallet in case anyone wants to know:
0xE787DEEc0BE77Db98A1294193E2c1600C8a8687d

His latest scalps are BUILD and KLON. dyor

>>28334151
NO DUDE YOURE A SHILL! THE BEST FORM OF CURRENCY IS ONE WHERE EVERYONE'S WEALTH IS ON A DATABASE AND EVERY SINGLE MOVE IS REGISTERED AND EVALUATED FOR DISTRIBUTION OF GOOD GOY POINTS. IMAGINE WANTING TO HAVE ANONYMITY LMAO THATS SOME GLOWNIGGERS SHIT MAN! IMAGINE WANTING TO DONATE TO FAR RIGHT ACTIVISM WITHOUT HAVING THE SYSTEM CUT ON YOUR SOCIAL SCORE FOR IT! CRYPTO IS TRUE FREEDOM GOY NOW STFU AND BUY BTC

I have .3 BTC. Am I done for? can I ever possibly make it?

>>28333884
The thing is that utility chain already serve as a store of value and have even more scarcity than btc. Bitcoin will keep rising as long as there will be people switching back and forth between crypto and fiat, but once the btc market stops being able to sustain the (not so) infinite profit machine, people will move to platforms that are actively used and required in daily uses.

>>28333500
>this is how i know im talking to a retarded person. its not guaranteed, just a matter of time? then youre saying its guaranteed? fucking retarded illogical animal
it's not guaranteed because it's not yet there and i'm not some marketing guy promising guaranteed returns
but the water is flowing down the river, it might find obstacles but sooner or later...
fiat will not become magically great with cbdc either...all they will do is give you a sweet pill (UBI) and steal more than they give you in purchasing power
>they can however absolutely stop you from using your fiat to buy bitcoin through their banking system
there are 200 countries in this planet
if they ever try to do that, it takes around 5 minutes for me to book a ticket and fuck off somewhere else

>>28316732
You used an RSI indicator and you think you know what the fuck you are talking about? Not even DMI, or MACD? Fucking retard.

>>28311840
Thanks fren

>>28312308
>don't expect to cash out within the next 3-5 years
That’s literally the main reason not to invest in BTC
That kind of long term gains sucks ass when compared to other coin opportunities

>>28334695

95% of retail investors are priced out from ever owning .3 BTC at this point

>>28311840
Will do, OP! Just waiting a week more for my money to clear AAAAAAA.

>>28333968
ashkenkikes are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia so they project their shit on others

>>28311840
Based.

>>28334666
>IMAGINE WANTING TO DONATE TO FAR RIGHT ACTIVISM WITHOUT HAVING THE SYSTEM CUT ON YOUR SOCIAL SCORE FOR IT!
YES

>>28335217
But is .3 BTC even making it? I use to own 5 BTC so I'm kind of cringing recently...

>>28335027
>200 countries
and only 4 of those matter. you dumb fuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Reserve
any shit crypto trashcoin can get cracked down by dozens on countries in a single day. cope

>>28335293
>>28334666
i hope to god that when the next EMP storm comes from the sun your stupid fucking crypto gets wiped from existence, and then WE, the FIAT HODLERS, will rise supreme

>>28334695
I have .18, I could convert my entire portfolio into 1 BTC at least, so I don't feel so bad yet

>>28335326
holy fuck you are so braindamaged that you didnt even understand what i was saying. you can send cash through mail anonymously to anyone you want, try doing that with bitcoin once every address is KYC'd you stupid dumbfuck

>>28335853
i was being sarcastic you stupid low IQ fuck

>>28335714
>and only 4 of those matter
and they matter for what?
i don't give a shit about muh 4 countries or even g20
i can already afford some fucking island in SEA you moron
>Liberty Reserve was a centralized digital currency
>centralized
yeah, ok bro

>>28335919
>what is coinjoin
>what are atomic swaps with monero
>what is bisq
>and panama no kyc exchanges
you have no fucking clue moron

>>28336057
the way 99,9% of the entire planet interacts with bitcoin is thought CENTRALIZED exchanges you absolute APE

BUY

>>28336029
>>28335919
you are a part of the NWO, you disgust me

>>28335027
it's only a matter of time before the US of Gay collapses and likeminded libertarians and cryptochads create a new nation free from all the bullshit. We have all the tech and resources to do it

>>28336143
you fool centralization is good for fiat

>>28336143
how many btc are inside the exchanges right now?
2/3M out of 18?
ok fine, we will use the remaining 15...
there is a reason why i tell people to withdraw btc from exchanges
and it's because if you own the private keys they are unconfiscatable

>>28336152
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE TASK, BUY AND HOLD BCASH!!!

>>28333726
i thought it was some British guy. the white paper pseudonym was just of a nip

>>28311840
Want a flight ticket to Mars?
Buy BTC.

Maxichad here. "Smart contract technology" is literally a circlejerk. It has never, and will never be adopted on an institutional level. All altcoins are meme coins, useful for accumulating more BTC and nothing else.

I sold bought LINK back in 2019 and sold late last spring. You idiots and your memes made me a lot of sats!

>>28336143
>centralized exchanges
nice oxymoron retard, the exchanges are not managed by a central authority, they are decentralized, there's hundreds of them across the world

>>28311840
If 50% crashes are normal, why not just hold cash until that happens?

>>28336406
i wouldn't shit necessarily on other crypto if they are useful to beat the kikes (i would still buy low and sell high for more sats tho)
dex are nice for example

>>28336463
nothing is normal, they are just common, but maybe there will never be another one, maybe it crashes to 75%, nobody can know. Your only safe bet is to by and hold, the one thing that has remained true is the price increases over time

UTTERLY BASED OP

>>28336463
they might happen
or not
or they might happen from 150k to 75k
who knows...

>>28336347
DOESNT MATTER YOU STUPID FUCK EVERYTIME PEOPLE WANT TO INTERACT WITH THE BTC/USD MARKET THEY DO IT THROUGH CENTRALIZED EXCHANGES. THE ONLY REASON BTC IS GAINING TRACTION IS BECAUSE "NUMBER GO UP" . TAKE THAT AWAY AND BITCOIN HAS NOTHING TO SUSTAIN ITSELF.
>UNCONFISCATABLE
NOT EVEN THAT IS TRUE. LEARN HOW MINING WORKS YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.
UNLESS YOURE ON ANTARCTICA OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING OCEAN, YOU ARE MINING UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF SOME COUNTRY. IF SAID COUNTRY WANTS TO ANALLY RAPE YOU, THEY CAN. END OF STORY

>>28336661
Same logic, you don't know when it's the top. You're profit will be more if you just wait for the crash. The risk of buying a top, then it crashes 50%, could keep your money locked up for ages while you wait for it to regain it's value.

>>28336451
>centralized exchanges are decentralized
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

LET ME GUESS, YOU THINK BINANCE "DEX" IS ACTUALLY DECENTRALIZED BECAUSE IT RUNS IT ON 5 OR 7 DIFFERENT COMPUTERS? LMAOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED

>>28336715
miners cannot change the utxo moron
you are a tech illiterate

>>28312476
>I'm not buying at 19k
>I'm not buying at 30k
>I'm not buying at 45k

>>28336814
>miners cannot change the utxo because shills told me so
WRONG

>>28336803
yes, the same logic applies, but i will definitely hold at least for another decade, over the long term peaks and crashes are just noise

>>28311840
>owns 36 000 bitcoins + tip in your path

>>28336923
utxo cannot be changed because there are like 100k distributed copies you moron
re-orgs can only happen on shitfork like bsv with zero hashrate
WAIT LET ME GUESS?
YOU GOT REKT WITH BSV AND FAKETOSHI?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU FUCKING MORON, I KNEW IT

>>28337199
>he thinks the toasters validating transactions have any influence in the network
LMAO AT THAT DOUBLE DIGIT IQ

>>28336923
idiot

>>28337435
basically it's like this:
miners can do whatever the fuck they want but nobody would see their invalid blocks. we would see the network stalling or slowing down if some miners started to mine invalid blocks.

that simple.

>>28337435
YOU GOT SCAMMED BY SOME VERY OBVIOUS CON-MAN
AND NOW YOU ARE CRYING TO MOMMY BECAUSE FRAUDTOSHI COIN IS WORTHLESS
FUCKING MORON
OOOOOOH THE BUTTFUCKS

>>28337633
>hurr durr if you know how bitcoin actually works it means you are a faketoshi fan!
im simply not a delusional animal learning about bitcoin from shill articles funded by blockstream

>>28337829
GO AWAY COCKROACH
YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED MILLION OF TIMES WITH YOUR RETARDED SCAMS
https://github.com/vbuterin/cult-of-craig

>>28337829
you have no clue how bitcoin works lmao

>>28337585
nope, in reality you would just eat shit and accept whatever the miners were doing

>>28338003
not how it works. that's why i said you have no clue whatsoever about any of this.
the payoff for miners to turn on the majority hash that produces invalid blocks is enormous and they would get a much larger share of the hashrate magically and for free and they would be able to actually spend it.

>>28338003
the miners give me an invalid block aaaaaand i reject it moron
and the remaining 100k nodes will do the same
congrats miner, you just lost a full block reward

>>28338212
most notably exchanges would ignore the shit out of it as they all run their own full validating nodes.

>>28336813
you fucking retard you missed my point. if one exchange gets shut down there's a hundred other you can use. Yes each exchange itself is centralized. But you can use binance, kraken, coinbase, those are just the big ones, there could be hundreds of small ones operating out of hundreds of countries, they will never shut down every exchange in the world, in that sense they are decentralized because no central authority manages them

Yes tech wise they are centralized to one server or cluster of servers, but there are hundreds of these centralized instances

>>28338212
>>28338187
im sorry to burst your bubble hippie retards, but thats not how PoW works. cope

>>28338446
wanna try sending me a bad block to my full node?

>>28338383
>they will never shut down every exchange in the world
maybe not in 3rd world shitholes but who gives a fuck

Many current world trends support bitcoin. One big one however, does not.
Bitcoin is not green, it's far from it. You may underestimate the significance of this now but you cannot deny that the world is moving towards energy efficient green products. Where does bitcoin fit in this? It does not fit.

>>28338736
bitcoin is green
it's the biggest incentive ever invented to create energy in a cheap and efficient way
it's literally the winner prize for a sustainable energy breakthrough
it's also the most democratic form of money, because it's minted with energy

>>28339087
>it's the biggest incentive ever invented to create energy in a cheap and efficient way
the absolute mental gymnastics. thats like saying atomic bombs are green because they incentivize the world to create technology to treat places affected by gamma radiation.

>>28338736
Fuck off Greta

>>28322113
>Xlm
Why would you buy the knockoff XRP? It's a centralized shitcoin with a hyper inflated supply. I mean if you're wanting to buy a scam, why not just buy the original scam XRP instead of the Wish.com version of it?

>>28339444
correct, nuclear energy is by far the most clean and efficient way to produce energy
https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/3-reasons-why-nuclear-clean-and-sustainable
https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/infographic-how-much-power-does-nuclear-reactor-produce
most of this "green revolution" is just a way for BIS/IMF/ECB/FED to print "green bonds" to give free money to their friends at Repsol and push with some kike propaganda they will stiff into your ass with buzzwords like great reset or build back better

>>28338446
lol it's exactly how it works. otherwise your shitcoin wouldn't exist at all.

>>28340019
did i talk about nuclear energy? or did i talk about atomic bombs?

>>28312540

Do you people ever stop you were saying this in 2017 when it hits a 100k you’ll be saying this at 250k still saying this

>>28339444
atomic bombs are deterrents of course
only mutts were foolish enough to use one on civils
but most of the studies for nuclear energy had a military background

>>28311840
Like 60% of this is good advice.

>>28340164
they are not
the power asymmetry can immediately develop when one party has a breakthrough in missile defense capability.

>>28340391
give suggestions fren

No thanks bro i'll just wait for the crash and then buy there

>>28338736
staking is a greener option
meaning ETH is the future