/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28186352

Just buy UNI and XSN to diversify. There aren’t much out there right now

What the fuck is a burgerswap??? Lmao what a joke.

>>28186352

When people were selling their UNI for $5 I was buying because I saw how big UNI could get. No idea it would blow up this big. I got a bag of XSN for cheap just in case but I don’t see them replacing Uniswap anytime soon. It’s more just for insurance if it does challenge Uniswap.

>>28186352
CyberFi has real utility.
Can set up automated trades, layer 2 cross chain swaps coming end of q1
Big project called 'samurai' coming out feb 10th.
Check out their medium for their roadmap.
Chekc out their price chart for strong organic growth and complete lack of pump n dump.
12 mill market cap, over 4 million being staked

As far as I know there aren’t much L2 Dexs, stakenet being 1 and I think blocknet? Honestly don’t know but interesting space to watch OP.

>>28186848

Never heard of samurai... does it also do Layer2 ? What do you think about Stakenet? Supposedly you can open beta download it now.

>>28186352
XSN and UNI. When xsn dex comes out it's gonna go nuts. Especially with bitfinex links/rumours.

>>28186848
>>28187001

Stakenets DEX hasn’t launched the pairs that matter ...yet. I’m in the discord. Couple of points, it’s a full orderbook dex not just swaps although you can swap if you want. And the first major pairs are going to be BTC/USTD.

>>28187005

What is the bitfinex link rumor?

>>28186352
Venus isnt a dex. Its a DeFi bank like Aave for lending and borrowing. Much better APY% than Aave too i will add

>>28187001
Samurai is a project on cyberfi that will be doing layer 2 end of Q1.
Stakenet being a downloadable executable is a big hurdle for me and i imagine many others. I understand that's meant to change but until it does I'm not going near it. I don't know enough about the project or the tech to be able to tell if it is a good idea over all, I'd take a look at their partnerships and people you trust in the crypto space's opinion

>>28187203
orderbook instead of swaps is probably going to limit its uptake I think. But if theyre the first mover in getting around these gas fees then it probably won't matter

>>28186352
Looking at this picture makes me that much more bullish on rubic as it has a smaller market cap then some of the trash listed in the pic

>>28186628
It's actually pretty good. The dex is only open during hours the burgers are sleeping to reduce the gas fees.

>>28187001
Stakenet only hosts the lighting node. There is no decentralised exchange.

You can do the same transaction on OpenDex. Literally the same Linux CLI trades that’s the closed beta in Stakenet has been doing.

Don’t believe the shills Sony Vegas video which will get posted in response to that. That fake video came out last year, with the apparent option to ‘turn off animations’... even though they’d never really release such a stupid looking thing. The closed beta testing group only got connext/lightning trades started 2 weeks ago.

There’s 3 cross chain layer 2 cross chain dex’s all at the same point right now. Stakenet. OpenDex and Union exchange.

Neither of them have figured out how to make an actual dec from the interoperability of the systems though. So that’s going to need to be figured out. Apparently Stakenet are just gonna fork the blockchain and it’ll be all good.

>>28187274
https://streamable.com/rxqdyi

Bought 15k XSN just now.

>>28187582
XSN DEX will be run by +2700 Masternode which makes it completely decentralized

>>28187274
Check dates on these

>>28187274
>>28187902

>>28187902
Lmao this is some XRP shit right here

>>28187582

How is open dex decentralized? I mean I get how stakenet is decentralized if the orderbook is hosted by a network of masternodes. How does it work for open dex?

>>28187582

Do all three use connext?

>>28187407
Rubic will definitely melt faces this year. Near feeless, lightning fast, secure L2 crosschain swaps coming in Q1 this year. Will see insane volume.
No other project is doing this or anywhere close to Rubic in terms of progress. Rubic will be the DEX to rule them all.

>>28187642

Honestly no idea what I’m looking at . Is that the dex trading with bitfinex layer2?

A FUDer changing his IP every minand fuding here. You poor loser. XSN to the moooon

>>28188134

Both are sitting pretty waiting for a pop. My only gripe about rubic is that it’s just swaps doesn’t have a game changing feature if a full orderbook like Stakenet.

But both are for sure going to eat UNISWAPs lunch soon.

>>28187963

If XSN DEX daily volume reach 1B you will earn $6k monthly. This is insane

>>28188448

Very speculative but I guess everything is in crypto.

>>28188465

Per node? That’s crazy lofty. I’m settling for a lot less lmao

>>28188787

Well they don’t call it uniswap killer for nothing . Gotta go big or go home.

>>28188834
It’ll pump one day for like 300%. Just one of those coins

Can we stop niggers from using DEXs? I don’t want to touch anything they use.

Try cakeswap on binance smart chain, its great.
Low fees
Very gamified, normies love this
Cute branding
High APY numbers enticing normans to lock their tockens

Its exploding and will reach top 20 in a month

Bump

>>28188923

Yes Stakenet doesn’t allow niggers

wow, who told you about these alts? This is trash man, don’t believe those assholes
if you wanna get income use your IQ and follow yield farming
I took part in metalex and they made a new model, a guarantee of x3 APY

>>28188979

Wtf I love Stake net now!

>>28186352
What do you guys think of Venus? I like the Coin.

Stablecoin Lending makes the most sense to me....

>>28187582
>Stakenet only hosts the lighting node.
This is true.

>>28188923

>>28189151
>>28188923

A DEX for biz ! No NIGGERS ALLOWED!

SUSHI is the best, but UNI will pump more cause it's more famous. Also buy SRM, Sam is building a perfect DEX and you're not buying it.

>>28188134
I mean it won’t be a dex to rule ‘them all’. The biggest trading pair volume by quite a large margin is BTC-USDT on binance. No serious traders are going to use wrapped assets so whilst it could eat Uniswaps lunch, the Stakenet feast is still on.

Rubic Stakenet sushi uniswap that’s 4 plays for the dex space you can’t go wrong . If uniswap maintains you will be good, sushii does a flippening you are good . If Stakenet blows up then you are good.

>>28186352
Crazy how no one is mentioning bancor.
If you need an dex that is actually trying to tap into another market than the shitcoin one.

Coingecko and CMC still don't list the correct volume, so be prepared.

>>28189572

Bancor isn’t a small cap anymore but fine that’s one to watch.

>>28188060
How is Stakenet? It’s run through one lightning and one connext node right now. All 3 projects are doing this.

The decentralisation of Stakenet comes from their supposed future fork of the block chain to allow the nodes to host the book.

>>28188117
Yup. Al 3 use lightning and connext

I believe in XSN and their LONG term goals. Right now XSN is undervalued!
When more people know about XSN DEX price will pump to the moon. BUY before it's too late

>>28190120
>>28189572

Look into stakenet they seriously are a small cap and have a product that isn’t just hype.

>>28190163
>>28189151
>>28189240

This is now a nigger hate thread

>>28190330

Ahhh yes. The holy trinity is biz, fit, pol

>>28186352
DEXG will remove impermanent loss and reduce slippage massively and wont use oracles, more efficient code so swaps will be cheaper etc.. DYOR its sub 20M cap.

>>28188923

>Can we stop niggers from using DEXs?

Are spics allowed? They are white adjacent?

XSN price pumped. Haahaa. Thanks FUDers.

>>28186352

The big question is whether or not UNI will consolidate their share or will hundreds of knockoff appear.

I would recommend staying away from uni knockoffs and go long on stakenet and stakenet type projects. Real layer 2 dex. There’s like 3 of them and I only know StakeNet . Disclosure I have a bag.

You all know Bancor & OctoFi will take over #1&2

>using a dex when you could use a dex aggregator and get the best possible price market wide

>>28190737

2nd layer transactions are the only solution for high gas fees problem.

During the last day hype ETH gas fees reach $60 dollar for swapping $200 on uniswap. What the fuck.

XSN unironically

>>28187394
You also have a simple swap ui in the dex environment

>>28187582
Not done accumulating your masternode?

loopring is a working solution on L2 mainnet right now
you don't really need to buy LRC or anything. just unlock your wallet for L2 and go
so if this is a thinly disguised pajeet shitcoin shill thread, feel free to ignore this post

>>28190992
XSN HOODRA

>>28191358
zkrollups is not a working solution

XSN amd their DEX are inevitable. Show some respect

Stakenet gas been sub $1 for 3 years. If you haven't managed to accumulate even 1 node by now you're gonna rope.....

Last day binance suspended withdrawal for an hour. They have full control on our asset. But XSN DEX is completely decentralized.

Speed, trust, transparency & decentralization. Financial regulators can no longer stop it.
And if you're bullish on either BTC/ETH. DEX is a good bet!

>>28191719
>Stakenet gas
what the fuck are you smoking anon because thats some powerful shit

>>28191907
stakenet gas, fuckin epic

>>28186508
/thread

DEXG is the only dex you need to care about

>>28186352
Why is no one talking about 1inch
This shit makes me want to fucking sell

>>28192183
1Inch gas fees are a bitch
unlike XSN gas fees which doesn't exist

>>28191808
But it’s not decentralised lol. It plans to be, it is not currently.

And because you don’t have a test net, a main net, or anything like that, you can’t deploy it for testing. That’s why there’s only 7 people in the closed beta testing it right now.

>>28192420
Be ready for XSN DEX final launch next month.
You will see anything you need on final version

>>28186762
Same, although now I have more in XSN than UNI.
The risk reward for XSN is off the charts, if it somehow manages to get just 5% of Uniswap's daily volume, XSN will easily 20x.

Keeping them on a exchange for now so I can quickly dump if their dex ends up being shit though.

>>28192335
1inch fees are reliably better than uniswap though.

Man, been seeing posts about XSN for months but still can't workout if it's legit or a big fuckin' scam. Came close to buying an MN last year for the fuck of it, fud beat me off last minute

>>28188019
Except this one has actual evidence.

>>28186352
Find the ticker $COIN on coin gecko, look into it. That is all.

NORD NORD NORD
It's just starting to take of. You can my on bitmax and stake for 81%
IT HAS REAL VALUE NOT LIKE OTHER SHIT HERE
And a real team. no anons. no ranjees
and they are not hyping it. It grows under the radar for long time

>>28193859
Look at the chart its shit its 90% down from ath 2 years ago what do you want with it

>>28194918
I think you are looking at the wrong chart.
It is currently around 55% down from ATH

>>28195240
ATH 0,00012259 BTC -93.0%
Jun 10, 2018
coingecko

>>28195450
Plenty of projects out there with charts like this lmao

>>28193090
Sure pal. At best I give you the closed beta becomes discord-invite only beta.

You’re not getting a full release in q1

>>28194918
I bought at $0.07 so already up nicely. Why would I care about some arbitrary ath years ago when they're weeks away from releasing their dex, mid bull run?

I want those sweet dex hosting rewards, and in turn XSN is gonna do min 10x if they get just few million of daily volume.

>>28195450
Your fud is that bitcoin used to be worth less than it is now? Thanks sold 4 trillion masternodes
>>28195616
Fine speculation. Won't be long for you to have to wait for your answer.

>>28195616
I believe they already confirmed in a recent QnA that they will have public release by end of Q1.

>>28192108
sir but i want a working l2 dex like stakenet, not a pnd

If you are looking for something serious look at injective protocol

>>28196368

shhh im still accumulating

>>28196368
injective protocol will release l2 dex soon and they have serious team and investors

>>28196368
>>28196485

What is this? Never heard of it. I def know about Stakenet? Can you compare them? Looking to jump on dex coins.

Already have a xsn bag.

>>28196485
any details?

>>28194323

Go check out their discord with their open beta dex you can see with your own eyes. Looks amazing for a very professional GUI

>>28191549
Yea rollups and using wrapped assets is like drinking Dr Skipper when you could have Dr Pepper (native asset trading on Stakenet Dex)

>>28193090

Is stakenet really launching next month tho? Too much waiting. I guess it’s a good time to accumulate but I’m fucking impatient. Been holding since November which in crypto timescales is a lifetime

>>28198270

What is a roll up?

>>28191907
*Has
>>28194918
Retard
>>28195616
Its open beta not invite
>>28198378
Yes. By end of q1.

>>28186508
ONLY XSN YOU DUMB FUCK

DEXG

>>28198378
>November
As in 2020? If so sell faggot. Imagine thinking 3 months is long in crypto. You better have atleast 1 masternode. 3 years to buy sub $1.

>>28199830

I’m staking 50k

>>28199830

3 months is a lifetime bro. Fortunes are made in less time.

>>28194323

Don’t let them shake you out. Just listed on bitfinex. I’d get more but I’m currently so maxed out on crypto.

>>28186352
Rubic

>>28198378

It’s been a long wait for xsn is launch Q1 and it’s the best UI I have seen out of all the DEXs

Unironically spaceswap

>>28200688

I see rubic and Stakenet mentioned. And some no names . Can we post some actual details other than just projects ? Like what makes them different ? I get stakenet because it’s constantly shilled about layer 2 .

>>28200799

Just like you have to have eth and btc . You gotta have UNI and maybe the XSN. Diversify bro.

>>28188134
What has Rubic delivered?

>>28200388
>>28200388
You gonna be a billionaire soon

>>28201342
panama bridge delivered on time

>>28201541
oooof, what has XSN delivered?

what the fuck is venus? the website just says you buy and sell bitcon only

>>28201775
successful mn staking and multiple cex launches. id be in xsn if it was available on a dex. until then im rubic

>>28186352
There's a ton of stupid DEXs entering the market since Sushiswap took off. Rocket Drop drops this week and it's going to boom because you earn fees without spending gas. That's gonna be an increasingly big deal.

> Only 5 DEXG

>>28189098
>Venu
Been in it since 4 usd, selling a bit every milestone. Not sure when to cash out and how far it can go

>>28200882
Rubic:
'L2' sidechain: Okay until it gets used and then becomes expensive again.
Swaps between ETH and BSC MATIC
Runs on a website using cloudflare that goes down frequently
Not really sure what the purpose of the token is
Stakenet:
L2 Offchain: uses connext and LN to allow transactions offchain. Instant, near feeless once off chain and doesn't get clogged up again like sidechains.
Swaps between EVM compatible chains (ETH, BSC, MATIC, etc), as well as Bitcoin, Litecoin, XSN, and any other coin on lightning network.
Currently orderbook is hosted on a website, but the DEX is planned to be hosted on thousands of Masternodes for maximum redundancy and limit of downtime
Coin becomes essential for running of DEX when it is offloaded to Masternodes.

>>28198433
Rollups are a way of enabling more throughput on a smart contract compatible chain. So not for BTC for example. That's why there is Lightning for BTC.

For ETH for example it's rollups, sidechains of going off-chain (which is like BTCs Lightning). Sidechains are gay because they enforce third-party trust. Vitalik hates them because of that as well. Rollups don't work with BTC so you cannot build a bridge between ETH and BTC using rollups. So they are limited or require wrapping, which means not using real assets, but some Dr Skipper someone gave you for your Dr Pepper.

Only payment channel networks work cross-chain with native assets. For BTC that's Lightning and for ETH that's Connext. Stakenet buildt a bridge for those two, which let's them interconnect. Furthermore they buildt an orderbook-dex which will be hosted on their 2700 masternode network (so highly decentralized) and which makes use of that BTC-ETH bridge. So it's the only DEX supporting trades of pairs like BTC-USDT which does $40B in daily volume globally. BTC-ETH does another $20B daily globally. If Stakenet achieves aggregating only 0.1% of that volume, a single masternode will allow you to quit working in first world countries/regions like the US/EU

>>28203149
rollups, sidechains or going off-chain*

>>28203079
>>28203149

Bullish my G.

I got a small bag and will increase while I can.

>>28203149
>If Stakenet achieves aggregating only 0.1% of that volume, a single masternode will allow you to quit working in first world countries/regions like the US/EU

Fuck if that is happens I’m fucking set.

>>28203149
This is insane.
This is the power.
This will change whole the market.

>>28186352

Fucking burgerswap?

>>28203149
>>28203079

Quality information. I’m in the discord and this going to be huge. Top 10 maybe top 50 definitely.

>>28204990

Yepp. Got my XSN before the bitfinex listing. Just waiting for launch. I’m very comfy.

>>28188923
>>28189151
>>28189240

This is a DEX I can get behind.

Prediction that DEX coins will be the next bubble. Can’t wait for pink wojaks

>>28204835

This gives me hope that actual legit projects like Stakenet when will take a huge market share.

>>28203149
Okay, I want to drop 1k on this scamcoin but why does bitfinex need a kyc for deposit? I dont want to provide documentation for the chinks. Anyway to buy this in non retarded way?

>>28206152

As far as I know whitebit is pretty legit for no kyc. And a 2 btc limit.

>>28206152
You can deposit crypto to bitfinex without kyc.
Also what >>28206789 says.

>>28206999
I clicked on USDT and USDC and finex said I need verification. Okay, will try whitebit.

>>28207165
Ah yes, stablecoins are a no from bitfinex without KYC.
https://support.bitfinex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017321633-Verification-Levels-and-Advantages

Uniswap knockoffs are hot right now just like icons where hot in 2017. It’s gonna crash and burn. Maybe not now but one day.

Real dex projects like Stakenet are gonna be fine. I have a bag from 10 cents so I’m comfy.

>>28197806
Its built on cosmos and uses an ethereum vm so you can trade tokens on both blockchains. The tech is pretty complex but they are able to swap eth tokens and get the low fees and speed of cosmos.
It also allows the user to make their own derivatives and trade them with collateral. The token has a lot of functionality, I didn't do the best job explaining but Coin Bureau has a video on it.

>>28206152
whitebit sir

>>28203149

Usdt/btc is where it’s at if you want to target whale traders. Uniswap can have all the token swaps they want. Being able to day trade btc without on chain fees!! This is the point I think most people miss. It’s that the trades will be done with very little fee and no congestion.

>>28211347

You can day trade now. But the probably is you cleave to do it on a CEX ... not your keys not your coin...

And the problem with Uniswap is that it’s on chain.

You are right . Layer2 dex from Stakenet is slept on.

>>28186628
Just wait till CumSwap is released

>>28211522
Kek, please shill it here.

>>28211522
wut

You win you shills, I've been out of the game and been holding VET since 2018 as supply chain coins were the hottest shit then. But I will agree DEX are the future and this can also be expanded to stocks and commodities in the future.

>>28212962
dude you gotta move to the next thing.

Defi is cool, Level 2 defi is next

Masternode fee structure
https://medium.com/stakenet/hydra-dex-network-upgrade-proposal-4b00a3a3fb8

Breakdown of StakeNet for noobs and veterans
https://np.reddit.com/r/SatoshiStreetBets/comments/l8joip/moonshot_stakenetxsn_a_dex_with_interchain/

>>28213159

I’m cooming

>>28186352
>Stakenet’s LAYER2 DEX is bridging real ETH/BTC pairs
Nobody cares about this. More bitcoin is wrapped on Ethereum or BSC as it exists in the btc blockchain. This would have been cool 3 years ago, now its irrelevant.

>>28186352
First Movers Advantage.

Everyone knows who's the king. Things will eventually even out but there's no killing the juggernaut.

>>28214964
ngmi

>>28215079
Poloniex?

>>28215079
Same as ETH. Copycats will arise and maybe take a slice of the pie if they bring something decent. But the king will never be dethroned.
I like UNI, just hope ETH gets their shit together with these fees. In the meantime I have been doing great with pancakeswap

ok listen up niggers
rubic and xsn are pajeet scamcoins
you have been warned

>>28215509
>>28214964

Layer 2 solves the problem of congestion. It’s bad enough now imagine trading on layer 1 uniswap years from now. Not gonna happen. Don’t let uniswap hype blind you from keeping the tech moving forward.

>>28218069
this but with BTC and literally every other cryptocurrency

>>28218069

Someone fucking explain pancake swap what the hell? Are the just tweaking the fees?

>>28214964
Ethereum can't handle the traffic.. Fees through the roof. No thanks.

>>28218934
Yes

>>28218115
ok fudder
how much are you being paid to fud XSN

>>28214964
>nobody cares about BTC/USDT

24hr volume:

$6,188,426,580 BTC/USDT on Binance
$1,075,868,503 ETH/BTC on Binance
$137,085,190 WBTC/USDC on Sushiswap
$100,203,028 WBTC/ETH on Uniswap
$142,436,189 USDC/ETH on Uniswap
$111,473,634 USDT/ETH on Uniswap
$47,140,122 WBTC/ETH on 1inch

ah yes right, nobody cares

>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/wrapped-bitcoin#markets
>https://www.coingecko.com/en/exchanges/binance
>https://www.coingecko.com/en/exchanges/uniswap

>>28219994
2 to 3

>>28214964
>more BTC is wrapped on ETH/BSC as it exists in the BTC blockchain

>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/wrapped-bitcoin
Circulating Supply
126,524
Market Cap
$5,919,034,850

>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin
Circulating Supply
18,624,325
Market Cap
$872,144,696,176

ah yes right, more wrapped than unwrapped. lol.

>>28186352
WHY HAS NOBODY MENTIONED ZKSWAP?

Easily the the best moonshot candidate, launching on ETH mainnet in a few days.

>>28220459

Kek

Alright but to be fair most of biz is just flipping alts to make a buck. But I agree with your sentiment that there’s a big space for Stakenet to move into especially the ustd/btc pair

BUY XSN before Stakenet DEX launch this month.

>>28222444
Holy Checked

>>28222444

>>28222866
Checked

>>28222444

Omfg I would sell my left but to have bought xsn when it was .05!

>>28222444

Phew. Aight brb gonna buy 100k.

>>28186352
of course I bought SAKE, the only retarded food swap not to moon