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>> No.28125845
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gimme ur concrete house pics bros

>> No.28125929

when im rich im going to live in a house made out of chocolate and wipe my ass with live rabbits

>> No.28125950

>>28125729
we don't do that here, we only care about digital coin on a virtual portfolio

>> No.28126009

>>28125929
based schitzo

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>> No.28127220
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All I want is a small farm tucked away in a quiet part of new england where I can ride out the coming turmoil.

>> No.28127543

>>28125729
>living in this fucking abomination
>>28127220
based

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>>28125929

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>>28127220
This seems pretty comfy, but having lived in New England the estate in your picture is easily $3mil or more. "Small farm" doesn't really match.

>> No.28129007

>>28125729
>2021
>not living in a nuclear submarine

>> No.28129397

>>28128819
Didn't look at it too closely, just grabbed something from duckduckgo image search. Just getting a basic colonial house with a decent chunk of land would be good enough for me.

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>>28125729
I just want to be comfy in the woods.

>> No.28129684

>>28127220
>>28127612
>>28128819
>>28129563
Based. The others are shabbos goyim who will never make it.

>> No.28129780
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>> No.28129890

>>28129397
Land is by and far very much more expensive than a house. The property taxes will eat you alive as well unless you continue to make money.

>> No.28130002
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>stuck in one place
NGMI. Just bring your house with you.

>> No.28130153

>>28129890
NJ native here, so high property taxes don't scare me. And besides, the premise of this thread is what we would get if we "made it".

>> No.28130327

>>28128819
Perfection. Nearly brings a tear to my eye

>> No.28130364
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>>28129890
In most places there are agricultural tax breaks if you're actually farming. Plant some trees. Land is the best long term investment, if you can defend it.

>> No.28130415

>>28130153
>And besides, the premise of this thread is what we would get if we "made it".
Damn reading comprehension. I'm NGMI

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>>28125729
obligatory

>> No.28130468

>>28130002
this. market is super overvalued for many years now.

>> No.28130556
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>>28130461
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>28130415
Don't worry anon, the average reading level of this board is kindergarten-tier. WAGMI

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>>28130642
Even if I'm holding 125 LINK I bought at $2?
Do you mean that fren?

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>>28125729
Don't be foolish; a modern, glass mansion like that is gonna attract a shit load of attention. Once you get rich, the goal at all times will be to keep it a secret for as long as possible. Eventually your friends and family will find out and start begging for shit. You wanna avoid that for as long as possible. Get a small, 3-4 bedroom house, but have really nice shit inside. You don't need a buttload of space, most of us spend their days at the computer playing video games and watching a line go up and down on a graph anyways.

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>>28130716
You should already know the answer to that.
Although realistically it'll take a while. Just do your best to keep stacking cubes in the meanwhile.

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>>28130987
I only bought LINK because I didn't want memesters to dab on me as a nolinker.
My linkies stay stinky $1000 EOY (stablecoin)

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>>28130962
get a comfy underground bunker for max stealth

>> No.28132383

>>28132060
unironically this

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someday anons!!!

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>>28125729
this style (white farmhouse with wraparound porch) on an offensive amount of land in the mountains

>> No.28133717

>>28127612
Why are overwater bungalows so fucking expensive?

>> No.28133961

>>28133138
Gorgious

>> No.28134217

>>28125845
Depressing jew shithouse

>> No.28134277

>>28133717
Because of the overwater part you dumbass

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Gonna go full LA-psycho like pic related but probably get a triple-decker glass-bottomed pool instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG8Rc83iSy4

>> No.28134331

>>28127220
Where white men belong

>> No.28134370

>>28134217
It's not that bad being up against a similar colored rockface

>> No.28134434
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Will be buying this after REEF 40x

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>>28125729
I'm taking the first rice boat out of this boring suburban dystopia to the closest villa to the redlight district.

>> No.28134497

>>28127220
This but in Pennsylvania.

>> No.28134720
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just want a small cottage in the herefordshire countryside
it’s really not too much to ask

>> No.28134730

>>28130364
True. Im in Iowa and zoned ag. The land tax is hardly anything. My peoperty tax is mostly the house. Ive gotten on a USDA monarch butterfly program and it is paying enough to cover the taxes. I general contracted my own house 3 years ago. It is nice living out in the country.

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>>28132060
>>28132383

>> No.28134852

>>28125729
>>28126441
>>28134324
>>28134434
>>28134446
I built these houses in The Sims - aesthetic

>> No.28134874

>>28127220
I'm a third worlder but my dream is owning some property in bumfuck nowhere in new england, specially maine

>> No.28135006

>>28127612
This is the kinda place I wanna retire in bros

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Here is my backyard bros. Move to the country if you can

>> No.28135458

>>28135297
>he's even got a pond
Damn bro. You fish it?

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>>28133589
>take the mountain pill

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Something like this, except with more trees. Fruit trees

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>> No.28135896

>>28135458
You bet. Fish and hunt mushrooms in the spring. I dont hunt though

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>>28134217
>hates concrete
do you even want to survive the zombie apocalypse bro?

>>28135297
pretty sweet. how far til nearest city though? need access to stores and shit

>> No.28136164

>>28135542
If I had the money, Id have a condo in colorado and 1 in florida. Ive got a nice place now, but Im sick of winter. Id go with condos because I dont want the upkeep of shit like yard work

>> No.28136309

>>28135982
Im about a 20 minute drive to a big mall and a million restaurants. About 35 minutes to downtown

>> No.28136415
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I was taking mountain pills but realized it's too much work.
Take the riverfront swimming pool/dock pill and join a tennis club.

>> No.28136631

>>28134446
based and SEA pilled. this in thailand is only 100k.

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>>28136309
sounds perfect to me

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>>28125729
I want to buy the Home Alone house one day.

>> No.28136893

>>28136685
Its nice, but it is literally 0 degrees right now and snow everywhere. That pic is a few months old

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I've been looking at this, Unironically.

>> No.28137026

I think we all want mountain pills because our environments are shit, but there are nice places where 100k towards amenities holds more value than an additional 30 acres

>> No.28137049

this thread makes me depressed. Ingmi

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>>28125729
I'm buying back the family farm, shitty pic from google earth

>> No.28137197

>>28135896
Nice man.

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>>28137049
Iktf

>> No.28137293

>>28136822
i dunno since old man marley passed those sidewalks have been extremely slippery

>> No.28137348

>>28137196
based, gmi.

>> No.28137559

>>28137196
Barn looks cool. How many acres

>> No.28137593
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>>28136822
Is that the infamous "what happened to the middle class?" home?

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I already made it bros. Stick it out

>> No.28137793

>>28137664
stick what out?

>> No.28137819

>>28137664
looks sweet bro. give us some details

>> No.28137876

>>28137819
yeah. I want some more details on what we're supposed to stuck out

>> No.28138039

When you start seeing these threads you know the bull market will be coming to an end soon.

>> No.28138058

>>28137793
Making your fortune ESL. Ngmi.

>>28137819
Lakehouse (more like river) just under 8000sqft. Has a dock.

>> No.28138179

>>28138058
Lake of the Ozarks?

>> No.28138212

>>28138058
what was the cost (approx) and what's your main source of wealth?

>> No.28138291

huge houses have huge property taxes.

get a chill rooftop condo on the water like me. 12ft ceilings. balcony. chill af.

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For me, it’s New Zealand.

>> No.28138412

>>28127220
cider house rules

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>> No.28138462

>>28137013
That looks rough, anon. GL

>> No.28138520
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>>28138377
that's where they filmed lord of the rings!! xDD
And Hobbit!
:))

>> No.28138563

>>28125845
concrete is 100% what im gonna for on my build
hopefully 3rd world shithole builders can execute
inside I'll be using boardmarked concrete as well

>> No.28138628

>>28138179
Somewhere in the South.

>>28138212
Cost under 2 million.
Stock market, selling a business, and marrying a high income individual is where the money came from.

>> No.28138640

>>28138377
looks like a lost in space set piece. based.

>> No.28138642
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A cozy split level in a nice area with a lot of forested land in the back

>> No.28138717

Best place to take the plains pill? I like the endless nothing feel

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>>28138520
Norfeners are NOT welcome.

>> No.28138756

>>28130468
(((they))) are cramming in so many fucking immigrants that the supply crunch is still very real though.

>> No.28138823

>>28138642
is brick expensive?

>> No.28138828
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>>28138628
sweet. congrats on making it bro

>>28138377
pic related

>> No.28138847
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>>28138520
MAORI HAKA

>> No.28138907

>>28130962
>THIS

>> No.28138960

>>28138717
There isnt a fucking thing in kansas. Wyoming is also a wasteland until you get to Yellowstone

>> No.28138962

>>28138291
wise, although the difficulty is finding the right city. even for a making it thread, rooftop condo in an alpha city is seriously no joke

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>> No.28138974

>>28130002
>getting 5mpg in your overpriced depreciating boomermobile with the same square footage as a degenerate tiny house
I don’t mean to shit on your dream but these things are honestly terrible IRL

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>Looking at properties in rural Alberta
>500k for a decent sized house and a few acres near a city I can work
>See this fucking basement photo
My wife was disgusted at the idea that I wouldnt change this room. Does anyone wanna come over?

>> No.28139072

>>28138563
How do you insulate a concrete house?

>> No.28139094
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>>28138828
Why is NZ so damn comfy.

>> No.28139110

>>28137196
based

>> No.28139120

>>28139072
With the right lighting that could be kino.

>> No.28139123

>>28139002
thats honestly scary as fuck, the ones on the ceiling look like eyes

>> No.28139181

>>28137559
I don't remember actually, but it has a wast area of forrest in addition to the fields.

>> No.28139239

>>28139002
Meant for you: >>28139120

>> No.28139258

>>28139094
god that's nice
all the elites love NZ for a reason

>> No.28139277

>>28138823
More expensive than twigs but absofucking worth it

>> No.28139371

fantasising about making it is what poor losers do

if you gotta think about the end result before you get there, your heart is in the wrong place and the only way youll "make it" is by getting lucky via gambling, no entrepreneurship drive

>> No.28139421

>>28137664
Nice

>> No.28139425

>>28132060
No way. I'd have nightmares about the top getting covered up, or breaking an arm so I couldn't climb out.

>> No.28139471

>>28128819
looks tacky, like a hotel lobby
biz has bad taste overall

>> No.28139518

>>28138377
Nice house but don't like the glass walls would always feel like someone was watching me but i suppose thats what meds are for

>> No.28139532

>>28134843
how much crypto could you mine in that bad boy?

>> No.28139535
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>>28139258
I wonder if Epstein had a place in NZ.

>> No.28139578

>>28133138
Is that Groverhaus

>> No.28139607

>>28135846
Where the fuck could you find a home like this in the US? That is out of this world comfy. I feel like that's a home you can only find in England.

>> No.28139614

>>28139258
I live in new zealand and I can't make it because property is so fucking expensive now

thanks kikes

>> No.28139663

>>28139371
Not true. Goals are healthy

>> No.28139695

>>28133138
Legit looks like something from the sims I would build when I was 10

>> No.28139705

>>28139371
Thats fucking stupid. Having goals and dreams is literally what motivates people to get things done. Thats like telling a star athlete that fantasizing about being in the championship won't motivate him to get any better

>> No.28139714

This thread made me realize that I'd probably need $100M or so to really make it. Fuck.

>> No.28139736

When the apocalypse happens I feel like China will nuke NZ just to spite the western elites who thought they were safe on their little island

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Nothing too fancy, a nice place near the woods but still within walking distance of town. I would just be happy to have a music room that the neighbours can't hear me from

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>>28139614
North or South Island, brew?
You gotta abuse that based 0 capital gains tax.

>> No.28140042

>>28134720
>>28133552
>>28135297
>>28135744
>>28135846
>>28135982
only anons with good taste
>>28137196
a truly noble ambition

>> No.28140058

>>28139614
thank the Chinese for that

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A cozy little castle near the sea - either in Europe on the French Riviera or Monaco or somewhere in the west coast of the USA.

>> No.28140112

>>28139736
This x1000, except they will likely go for a full land invasion so that they can use it as a springboard for an attack on Aussieland

>> No.28140145

>>28139607
I suppose you could self build. I live in England and these kind of homes are fairly common outside of cities but expensive.

>> No.28140225

>>28139872
Yeah I could have had 1 million in LINK tax free but now I have 6k stinkers qualified for no tax instead if 28k stinkers. Nobody wants to tell 21 year olds how to do proper tax planning

>> No.28140254

>>28134497
And get executed by your neighbor? No thanks.

>> No.28140339

>>28139002
so that's where they edit porn

>> No.28140358

>>28139872
Also north island

>> No.28140425

>>28127612
Only correct answer

>> No.28140505

>>28137049
I'm gonna make it, but it won't matter because i'm too ugly and autistic to be loved and have a family

>> No.28140530

>>28140254
They supposedly had a family feud going back years, so it escalated to that.
Anyway my goal isn't to have many neighbors lol.

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>>28133138
Is this what Americans call a house?
no wonder that they always fly away when some wind kicks in

>> No.28140686

>>28134217
It would be awesome if it were covered in vines and greenery though.

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>>28140358
Sorry on both accounts. I sincerely hope you make it this bull run, anon.

>> No.28140833

>>28140576
Dont understand why europeans say this shit. My house has a lot of wood and we just had a derecho storm over the summer. Id never heard the term derecho, but basically 100mph straight line winds for about a half hour. Im on a hill and I didnt even lose 1 shingle

>> No.28140903

>>28134324
that place is an abomination

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>>28125729
>OP: hey guys I made it!
>OP's loved ones:LOL why do you live in pile of shipping containers bolted together?
><------- OP

>> No.28141078

>>28138628
Ah ok, so marrying a rich faggot. Good job taking it in the ass and swallowing cum.

>> No.28141126

>>28140833
They are mad they cleared all their forests like 1000 years ago to make trebuchets to toss diseased carcasses at one another.
They envy our wood, literally and figuratively.

>> No.28141214

>>28135982
>do you even want to survive the zombie apocalypse bro?
Grow up or stay over at reddit, fag

>> No.28141289
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>>28140833
Weel we often see how tornados or some fucking other storm huts you and all the devastation it brings. You build mostly cheap, what you sometimes use as a outside wall, is here only use as Partition from room to room. That's why we laugh at this.

>> No.28141435

>>28141289
Whatever homo. Lets see a picture of any room of your place.

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Stone is undeniably aesthetic

>> No.28141605

>>28137593
They had like 10 kids dude. Would be unbelievable today and the chances of one of them being tranny is so high

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>>28139518
More glass for ya. Personally, I’m okay with it. These places are out of the way in the country, and NZ isn’t a crowded place.

>> No.28141723

>>28127220
what are you going to farm? ice?

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13th floor, middle left

>> No.28141778

>>28125845
>>28138563
Enjoy your radon gas

>> No.28141807
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see pic

>> No.28141816

I used to build roof so I can't look at these pictures without studying the roofs in detail

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>> No.28142023

>>28141289
Anon, we have a lot of trees in the US, so lumber is cheap and all the construction labor is used to working with it. You're probably from Eastern Europe where the standard is structural brick. They're about the same in terms of strength, when built properly, except that the brick is worse in earthquakes.
The reason you see storm devastation in America on TV is that America is huge. It's huge on a scale Europeans do not understand. There are so many varied climates and regions that there's always somewhere getting fucked by its local building hazards, where in your country, your local news wouldn't care about an equivalent disaster six countries over. Also you don't get hurricanes.

>> No.28142035

>>28141749
me on the right

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I put my house inside a greenhouse and now it feels good to sit outside on my deck year round

>> No.28142145

>>28141816
yes you can if you try hard enough

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>>28142127
I would be outside all year long if it wasn't for fucking annoying mosquitoes.

>> No.28142333

>>28142127
>hailstorm blocks your path

>> No.28142355

>>28141807
Ay tone

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>>28141816
If your primary place of residence has a flat roof, you’re ngmi

>> No.28142556

>>28141807
Not bad, Tone! Can't take the gumar there, though.

>> No.28142661

>>28141289
you retarded euros see one video of something happening in the US and you think its happening to everyone, everywhere, all the time, you think our country is the size of germany or something

>> No.28142776

>>28140505
same bro.. except I'm also turbomanlet

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Best.

>> No.28142936

>>28134874
Fuck off were full

>> No.28143232

>>28142837
That's pretty cool but imagine getting furniture or just groceries up there regularly.

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>>28142837
This is a blue board, anon.

>> No.28143525

>>28142127
I worked for a company that built sunrooms and they did this to a couple houses. Its super nice but the glass gets filthy and needs to be cleaned pretty frequently.

>> No.28143543

>>28143232

Its very impractical but thats what makes it great.

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>>28143359
Right. Sorry about that.

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>>28143856
MOOOOOOODS

>> No.28144306

https://olsonkundig.com/

These guys fit the style of most things in this thread

>> No.28144324

>>28143583
>>28143627
>>28143675
What they do to architecture in this country is borderline vandalism. Georgian design should be mandatory for new build estates.

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>>28143627
Like watching the flood take a guy over in halo 3.

>> No.28144391

>>28144306
>The Children's World of the Jewish Museum Berlin

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>>28144324
Better?

>> No.28144423

>>28143675
>spacious
>puts bed hovering above stairway two steps away from kitchen

>> No.28144494

>>28144397
...also ban the colour orange.

>> No.28144602

>>28144397
Even just putting false chimmneys on these would vastly improve them.

>> No.28144643

>>28125729
Why does this look like a cod map
Still like it tho

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>>28144306
I’m not sure how I feel about this

>> No.28144847

>>28130962
But what if I want a pool and a gym and a japanese style bath in my house?

>> No.28144856

>>28141778
Radon is everywhere, anon.

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Hopefully away from niggers

>> No.28145044

>>28144763
>>28143359
>>28142837
>>28141697
this aesthetic looks like it's for tranny-groomers stop posting it

>> No.28145132

>>28135778
these are MAKE IT houses, not NGMI houses

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>>28145044
No.

>> No.28145303

>>28144856
Radon in dangerous levels is only found in homes with a lot of concrete/cement and certain types of stone depending on where its from and the mineral content there. If you have an entirely concrete house you're overwhelmingly more likely to have issues with toxic radon levels at some point in the future. You'll have to do annual or biannual radon testing for life.
Or you can just have a house built with better materials.

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>>28125729
>what’s a nigger dad?
>you’ll never know son

>> No.28145445

>>28134843
better make friends with these now:
https://harborfreight.com/search?q=water%20pump

>> No.28145485

>>28135778
oh my god that looks horrible

>> No.28145703

>>28139002
fucking based
you'd need to periodically check, previous user hasn't sneaked back in tho

>> No.28145718

Any mother fucker ITT that isn't buying AT LEAST 100 acres and building a fucking CASTLE on it is NOT my nigga and you can fuck right off to whatever 3rd world shack you want to "live" in after you make it.

>> No.28145733

>>28140254
>Neighbors
>making it

Pick one and only one.

>> No.28145977

>>28135846
>>28139607
kek this is a museum in Dearborn, Michigan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dearborn,_Michigan#Demographics

>> No.28146001

>>28127220
RIfag here. We need more white people

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>>28129563
This is the epitome of comfy to me.

>> No.28146159

>>28143627
its a burnt out church of littel architectural significance. thats not all that bad a hack desu, seen worse.

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Nothing like a good interior courtyard

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It's my dream to live in a beautiful condo with a beautiful view.

>> No.28146670

>>28137664
How’s you make it?

>> No.28146672

>>28145977
>Cottage was originally from Chedworth, Bloucestershire, England, but now resides in Dearborn, Michigan thanks to Henry Ford who bought the cottage and moved it to Michigan. Significantly, the cottage and all other buildings associated with it were shipped here and reassembled exactly as they were originally. Henry Ford brought it over for his Greenfield Village as a lovely example of architecture inspiration in America, as a tribute to his English heritage, and I can’t help to believe he bought it for his wife who loved English country gardening.
>Cotswold Cottage was originally built in the 1600s, has lush English country gardens surrounding it, country gates, stone pathways, ivy growing on the walls, thick limestone walls, charming windows, and my personal favorite is niches built into the limestone walls of the cottage for birds to nest, which looks like bird heaven as you shall see.
Interesting stuff.

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>>28146537
Maybe as place to take slampigs, but I wouldn’t want to live there permanently

>> No.28147091

>>28146672
jesus how much money do you need to do this? ten million? twenty?

>> No.28147107

>>28133717
>Why does it cost so much to build a house on top of water
Geez idk anon your guess is as good as mine

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preferably something like this, comfy, doesn't stand out but flawless.

Or any other house in this area of DC, they really nailed it.

>> No.28147180

>>28125729
this looks like more trouble than it's worth to be honest

>> No.28147339

>>28139607
almost every big city in America has a section of town that used to be the "suburbs" in the late 1800s until the 1920s. This style of home is quite common in those areas. I know that's kind of vague but look for areas just outside of the main downtown area and away from the immigrant areas.

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>>28146672
There is a pub across from the Apple HQ in Cupertino that was brought over from England too

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I find the flat, sleek, modernist look deeply alienating. As for people posting these gigantic mansions, what on earth do you need all that space for? It can't be for hosting all your friends or you wouldn't be posting on 4chan.

My ideal house is an Arts and Crafts / Craftsman bungalow type for max coziness

>> No.28147449

You're moving to the projects? kek

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>> No.28147530

>>28137664
thanks fren i needed this

>> No.28147534

>>28127220
Where is that, I want to move there

>> No.28147600

>>28128819
>$3mil or more
cheap as fuck... is that all?

>> No.28147645

>>28141289
>You build mostly cheap
Yeah, so it can be rebuilt for cheap because there is not an above ground structure you could build that can resist an F5. Combine that with American has a fuckload of space and people who are constantly expanding into it houses are built cheap.

>> No.28147687

>all these people saying that they want to live in a comfy house in the woods
>I already live innawoods and have no money

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>>28147402
Horses for courses, I suppose.

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>>28125729

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>>28147687
Good thing we’re in a bull market, you have the opportunity to fix that

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>>28133717
They're not if you build them somewhere cheap and inland, but then the cheap ones aren't prestigious.

>> No.28148115

>>28137664
>living on a redneck lake in the south surrounded by people
at least try to fit in and put some antlers or blue cat mounts on the wall

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just nice and /comfy/ lads

>> No.28148785

>>28142035
we*

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>> No.28148856

>>28144324
It’s the Jews that do it. They turn traditional white man architecture into post modernist shit to smite us. Jews get off in ugliness because they love to demoralize the goyim. Look up Jewish architects and look in disgust at the over priced monstrosities they create

>> No.28148884

>>28143583
at least 3 of those houses will be crops

>> No.28148974

>>28125729
shit
>>28125845
jewish
>>28126441
tacky florida
>>28127220
too colonial, but decent
>>28127612
boomer vacation timeshare
>>28128819
Pretty based but it looks like every natural history museum
>>28129563
Impressive. Very nice.
>>28129780
reminiscent of an olive garden, just less yellow
>>28130002
literally an RV
Boomer dreamhome
>>28130461
Based and returned
>>28130962
McMansion (obligatory post)
couldn't stand to look at that from the outside every day
would rather live in any trendy yuppie gated McCommune than that
>>28133138
>>28133552
>>28133589
kit house
>>28134324
parking lot converted to living space in service of the ZOG
>>28134434
ugly pseudo villa style
wine aunt's delight
>>28134446
too japanese
too much concrete
>>28134720
respectable/10
>>28135009
reminds me of a stadium, probably the owner likes sportzbal indicatedd by the tennis court in back
also 2 expensiv 4 u
>>28135542
I've been to that restaurant
good luck getting swiss citizenship tho and also there's a wealth tax
>>28135744
9/10 not a /makeit/ house but based and cabinpilled
>>28135778
ucgh
>>28135846
cottagecore, nice
>>28135982
fancy concrete box
needs more colors
>>28136415
mosquito/10
>>28136685
would be afraid of ghosts
prime setting for scooby doo to show up
>>28136822
it's ok
>>28137013
great for rentoids
>>28137196
"end of the laneway, don't come up the property" pilled
>>28137664
can't see the rest of the house but living on the river is keyed af,
can dump bodies easily, best chance of escaping the govt by river, also you can swim
>>28138377
weird plants, gay politics but cloudy and wizardpilled, 7/10
>>28138828
a flat roof to match a smooth brain
>>28138971
probably molested children in there
doesn't fit with the surrounding terrain
>>28139094
too modern, looks like a render from a catalog
>>28139535
cabin/10

>too many middle of nowhere houses ITT
anything can look great if it has a mountain in back of it, but driving an hour to go to grocery store can suck

>> No.28149022

>>28148832
this with about 10 fearsome dogs running about

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I’ll "employee" an army of no-coiners to manually calculate hashes in the fields.

>> No.28149193

>>28134324
doesn't Dan live ( as a renter) there lol

>> No.28149196

>>28148974
no one cares about your opinion enough to warrant this massive reply you moron

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>>28130461
Based

>> No.28149338

>>28143232
I would install a freight elevator next to the staircase. Add a lookout tower and this place would be perfect

>> No.28149463

>>28146795
Oh my god imagine the bugs

>> No.28149502

when I make it I'll move to a comparable house with a garage, sell my dependable wagie cage of a car (paid off) for a $500 piece of shit car and ride that balls to the wall and change the oil every 2 months til it fails or worse then put it in in the dumpster derby and buy another one when that fails. piss my neighbors off when I rent a nice car for a week....I'll have a fleet of disposable cars and no one can stop me MUHAHAHAHA, also I've never really cared about relationships having kids is probably not a good decision since poverty=child=dependopotumus*2
this is a sick and perverted world....

>> No.28149693

no srs I'd probably Buy an RV and travel the country hustling billiards and pretending to be poor

>> No.28149789

>>28143675
>>28143583
how do eurocucks live with themselves?

>> No.28150100

>>28137664
A.W.

>> No.28150342

>>28135982
Is this in Seattle?

>> No.28151107

>>28149196
everyone must get a (You)

>>28139744
Tudor style can be incredibly keyed
>>28140102
looks like an old tumblr painting reblog, too overgrown
>>28140711
wooden outhouse
>>28141697
iDuStRiAL is the new brutalism, will be ugly when it gets rust stains and streaks all over it
>>28141749
ching chong ping pong pilled
>>28141807
>t. the guy who actually buys a lambo
>>28141853
thai ladyboys. nice
>>28142456
people can see when you're home from a mile away
can also break into your home easily and know how to navigate it without even getting that close, too triangly
>>28142837
weird
>>28143359
>I WANT to eat the bugs
>>28143583
a normal yard in yorkshire
>>28143627
abomination before God/10
>>28143675
cute and affordable tinyhome for adventurous millenials hehe
>>28143779
videogames aren't real, anon
>>28144182
literal storage container
>>28144339
would play at grandma & grandpa's house/10
>>28144859
finally some more victorian influence
could use a bit of updating and a new color scheme tho
>>28145152
groomer
>>28145393
>I'm gonna design a house but it's gonna be a TRIANGLE with fucked up windows
so innovative
>>28146150
posted in every house thread for some reason
come home, northman
>>28146496
californian dystopia
>>28146537
>I just love the HUSTLE and BUSTLe of the big city
>>28146795
zen and lots of plants, pretty nice
too bad I'm xenophobic
>>28147135
quaint and purdy
looks like a nice quiet life
>>28147381
californian dystopia #2
>>28147402
looks like it was on forensic files, Idk why
>>28147496
weebshit
>>28147799
Blade Runner 2049
>>28148027
wooden outhouse built from kit
>>28148756
You'll be a good grandpa
>>28148832
>>28149151
run forest, run
pretty based overall except you'll be the first one they come for in the race war-communist revolution
>>28149204
return to monke
reminds me of The Long dark

>> No.28151122

>>28144859
10/10 house

>> No.28151307

>>28151107
>Blade Runner 2049
Exactly what I thought

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>>28144602
kinda like this?

>> No.28151403

>>28151313
>was also built after the war

>> No.28151448

>>28136631
enjoy your military coup every second year

>> No.28151495

>>28134324
Oh my God I love how excessive this is

>> No.28151768

>>28148974
Autist please stop

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>>28148974
>>28151107
And because I've criticized so much here's a couple examples I like for not innawoods living

https://www.columbusnavigator.com/german-village-house-tower/

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>>28151868
really anything from Columbus, Ohio surrounding Schiller Park
great fuckin' inspo there

https://www.columbusnavigator.com/schiller-park-modern-mansion/

>> No.28152076

>>28151868
The house that doesn't know what it wants to be probably like you.

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>>28144324

>> No.28152308

>>28138520
this made me laugh

>> No.28152398

>>28135542
How would you get groceries?

>> No.28152402

>>28152022
The houses to either side of it are infinitely more appealing. The center one is pretending to be classy but failing. Look how bland and boring the surfaces are in contrast to the others.

>> No.28152421

>>28139425
look at the image, you could climb out with _two_ broken arms if the door at the top wasn't a problem

>> No.28152659

>>28145393
>>28144763
>>28144182
god-tier

>> No.28152678

>>28152022
wtf this looks like something thats been built in Gmod

>> No.28152749

>>28152402
yup thought so too, any of the houses there are generally good though

>> No.28152827

>>28133589
That looks like some slave-owning wypipo racism house to me

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What’s the architectural equivalent of a redditor's manhood compensation lootbox?

>> No.28153192

>>28134843
This is majorly poluted and not even 5 or 10 times the retail price would be enough to have it stripped off noxious materials

>> No.28153417

>>28137013
Lol Jesus Christ, that's for one unit? I thought it was for the whole damn shitty urban nightmare structure. NEVER pay more than $100,000 for a condo unless it's luxury or an insane location. That looks like neither.

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>> No.28153717

>>28153164
talking about architecture at all with other people

>> No.28153736

the land where i wanna build it is gonna be about 300k, then we're talking stone manor home except with a nice large walled in area that leads to a creek, probably another smaller wall 100-200 yards off that one

>> No.28153832

>>28151768

I think it's nice that he replied to my post

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>>28125729

>> No.28153962

I dont really have a house in mind, but when I make it I'm putting a urinal in my washroom. I piss a lot and it would really make things way easier. Especially when Im chain drinking diet Pepsi and playing video games.

>> No.28154033

>>28142837
What happens if you get a lightning strike in this thing? It would melt and crumple on top of you.

>> No.28154040

>>28125729
>not buying a FLW house designed for your favorite mathematician

>> No.28154046

>>28125729
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9344-N-Narrow-Gate-Rd-Palmer-AK-99645/122353699_zpid/

I hate society

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>>28154040
LOL forgot pic

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>> No.28154109

>>28151313
"They" lied to me!

>> No.28154174

>>28154093
Flat roof, smooth brain

>> No.28154186

>>28153957
This would be really easy to defend from robbers.

>> No.28154227

>>28154174
why

>> No.28154536

>>28154227
Architectural Judaism

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>>28125729

here's my make it house

>> No.28154657

>>28154107
the hedonist's dream

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>>28134843

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>>28133589
this, farmhouse with a wrap around enclosed porch is the only answer

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i want something very basic and small like this

luxurious living is gay

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>>28125729
Neighbors suck.

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5 stories, central London, for under £1m. Easy.
https://www.winkworth.co.uk/properties/sales/goldhawk-road-shepherds-bush-w12/SHE121014

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>>28154887

>> No.28155032

>>28153962
Can’t piss in sink, manlet detected

>> No.28155060

>>28153164
Exposed brick

>> No.28155092

>>28154536
I'm jewish and so was the guy who it was built for, so that works for me.

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It's called Woodsong and it will be mine.

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