/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28056683
doge, you fucking troglodyte

>>28056792
I'd say Link desu

>>28056683
Stock market will be killed and only crypto will be the way to make money.

>>28056683
wrong
>student loans all paid off by new stimulus
>every POC gets a free house, paid for by government
>free college and healthcare for every POC

>Stocks in a bubble
>Housing in a bubble
>Fiat hyperinflating
>PMs worthless
>Crypto doesn’t work yet
where’s the money supposed to go in a “crash”

>>28056683
I'll just make it by starting a defi service to tokenize everyone's kidneys

>>28056683
It's an INFLATIONARY spiral, the very opposite of 1929.

I got myself a front row seat

Ready to enjoy the show

>>28056872
damn its good to be black

>>28056924
Nicely meme'd. A sense of humour will prove useful in these coming times.

>>28056972
smooth brain here, please explain in small words

>>28056683
so what the fuck do we do?
buy tether? open shorts on literally everything? load a canoe full of camping gear and fuck off???

>>28056972
Same end game. Bucket of piss, or a bucket of piss with one nanogram of fake gold leaf in it?

>>28056924
>PMs worthless
If you're truly worried about hyperinflation, PMs are where it's at, anon.

>>28057120
Save money. Cut-out any needless spending.
Return to your tribe (family).
Hopefully Link will help us ease through this.

doomers get the rope.

>>28057191
no that’s a meme. I have zero faith in precious metals holding up as an investment

>>28057068
Go see on Youtube shit about Germany 1920's. After every hyper-inflation event, there's a dictator in the end. Happened in my country too. 50 years of Fascism. And the US is leading the whole world into a global event. It's gonna be so much fun , when everyone , at the same time, comes out to spend their neetbux, and there's nothing to buy, so there's always someone willing to pay UTC to cut in line. I'm gonna be that guy.

>>28057004
Whoops. This was meant for >>28056872
>>28056990
I mean, yeah, if you forget about the concerted Gov. effort to attack your communities with crack and the eugenicist agenda of Planned Parenthood...

>>28057120
Buy food. Buy water. Buy guns. Buy ammo. You will need all of it.

>>28056683
desu I don't understand how a market actually crashes, can someone explain? It's not like the money goes away, and any investor with any sense doesn't keep their wealth in fiat. If they're pulling it from the stock market and crypto, what assets does it go into?

how many fucking sunday evenings to you fucking stupid doomers have to post trash like this holy fuck if the future is so bad why dont you just lay down your neck on a railroad track and decapitate yourself

>>28057068
1929 it was hard to aquire money, but money still was very valuable. With the modern version, it will cost a months pay for your morning coffee.

>>28056683
I remember when the housing crisis was supposed to fuck up the world
that shit wasn't even that bad

will shit get worse? probably, but not as much as these news outlets would have you believe, all they care about is making you click their article

>>28057181
No, not at all. Deflationary events are called Recessions. This is the very opposite. Every single hyper-inflation produced dictators. Imagine a competent Trump, waiting in 2028.

>>28056683
dhedge literally fixes this it's your chance for defi-AI asset management, fren

>>28056872
Unironically this. Biden will give money to any whore who pops out a fetus and all student loan debt is getting written off. Taxes will increase and UBI next for those under the poverty line

Why is anyone expecting hyperinflation? Despite massive money printing, inflation of scarce assets has been merely modest. Private debt ensures that inflation is kept in check. Even if Biden unilaterally forgives all college debt and gives all those students credit score waivers, you're still looking at a mere 70s-esque pump to be inevitably crunched 80s-style when costs outpace feasible rents. Worst-case scenario we see 100% inflation this decade, and probably not even that bad.

>>28056924
Land (with water apparently)
Livestock - chicken should be fine
Sugar, salt
Grain
Natgas or lighters
Solar panels if you checked all above

>>28056990
hell yea brothaman
>>28057004
:^)
>>28057352
Fascism sounds fun NGL, as long as I'm part of the preferred in-group and not the unwanted gulag boys.

>>28057335
>holding up as an investment
In the hyperinflation scenario, they will. If you're talking investment in general, that's a lot more debatable.

bullish for crypto

>>28057068
Depression of 29 was due to a restriction of money supply- essentially a bunch of factors kind of collided that resulted in the supply being cut being by like a third which made the value of the dollar skyrocket but also meant that everyone tried to make a run on the banks to get their money while the stock market crashed and all the banks essentially ran out of cash. Basically, if you didn't get your cash before the banks declared bankruptcy, you just lost it all.

This is the opposite. Rather than the value of the dollar being high, the mass printing of currency instead is completely destroying the value of the dollar. Basically, the prices of everything are going to move up massively, but wages and such will likely remain stagnant. This causes a death spiral because eventually more and more people will have less money to spend on more expensive things that have the same or less value than they previously did.

>>28057541
He's talking about investment assets, not prep supplies. Land sure, but you don't pull hundreds of thousands out of the stock market to spend on grain and lighters. You're assuming doomsday scenario; if the market crashes its more likely to be a depression.

>>28056990
its ok if you eat enough ketamine you can turn blue and atain the ultimate nigger transformation blue nigger. you would be unmatched in your base

>>28057647
Would owning a truck being a good idea?

>>28056683
cant the fed just bail everyone out like in 2008?

>>28057420
No need to get angry and shoot the messenger, anon. Anyone can see what's coming. Why do you think Bill Gates has been buying up tons of land? Why do you think the elite are investing heavily into crypto now?
>You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

>>28056924
>where’s the money supposed to go in a “crash”
for once, silvercucks will actually be right.

>>28056683
Preparing by buying my first gun.
Once everything hits the floor so will my body.

>>28056990
N

>>28057352
>After every hyper-inflation event, there's a dictator in the end.

Don't get my hopes up about this gay earth.

>>28057527
Housing inflates 8-10% annually so there's your 100% in a decade
+50% dolarroos we're printed this year alone
The only luck is they mostly buy stinks and bonds with them, but partly those gains also sink into real estate
Official inflation is basically calculated from the price raise of avocado toast so retards believe it's 2%
I rather wish you were right anon, but the math doesn't seem to add up

>>28057577
The only way to curb inflation, is to raise interest rates. That won't be fun. Besides, fascism is retarded. What we need is Anarco-Liberalism.

>>28056924
There never was any money retard.

>>28056683
Buy bitcoin.

>>28057797
>everyone
Oh, summer child, you're so innocent.

>>28056864
My meme coin not backed by anything will save me from the coming crash

>>28057879
amn it's good to be Black

>>28057985
Innocent as in being a virgin? Yes I am innocent

>>28057930
Hmm, anarco-liberalism sounds like what a hyperinflated society would look like when on the brink of fascism.

>>28057905
It's true. Portugal, Germany, pretty much all South America, had a hyper-inflation event, and then the military stepped in to "maintain order", to impose the bitter medicine. Here's the irony, to fix the shit made by State power, we'll have EVEN MORE State power.

>>28057914
>Housing inflates 8-10% annually so there's your 100% in a decade
That's what I'm saying. 100% sounds nation-ruining but it really isn't. Woodrow Wilson oversaw 100% inflation in just his second term, for example, and while the Dems lost 1920 in a landslide on a "return to normalcy" platform, the inflation itself didn't matter much. Current QE inflation also only inflates those specific goods, i.e. it's dependent on the ability of people to buy housing to begin with, and most people are holding financial instruments, e.g. stocks and debt. Inflation will only wreck cashies that shove everything into checking accounts.

>>28057674
I consider things above as an investment
It's more about freeing yourself from money printer, rent and tax hikes, lockdowns and forced vaccinations taking your wealth and health away, not rly about apocalyptic scenario

>>28057719
Honestly owning anything is good, as long as it has re-sale value or some other use. Ideally if you are buying something, it should produce value in itself. I tend to think PMs are dogshit for this reason because if shit really does go super south, the majority of the population isn't going to choose buying gold over food and shelter for their loved ones.

A truck might have some utility use, but historically vehicle values take a nosedive once they leave the dealership or wherever and only get worse over time, unless its like some collector car.

>>28058111
It's what the US was supposed to be, until those faggots plowed through the Constitution.

>>28056683
pandemic -> roaring 20's -> great depression

>>28056683
Reminder

Imagine being a post Bretton Woods "market vet"
The absolute state

>>28056924
>where’s the money supposed to go in a “crash”
same place it came from, thin air

>>28058215
right, I've never bought a new vehicle, but I was thinking of the utility.

>>28057930
>le don step on me snek

>>28058280
They want us on UBI, jerking off all day, and our crypto gains to be taken with an unrealized capital gains tax.

>>28056864
lol, crypto is backed solely by bagholders; it's proven utterly useless besides allowing us to ride a bullrun once every 2-3 years.

>>28058496
The Articles . The US could've been great.

>>28058565
>hundreds of billions of dollars in crypto
>hurr durr it's useless
delusional

>>28056683
just buy land (with water), guns, stick with your family and diversify within your expertise. stop jacking off to the latest doomsday scenario that comes out every 10 years. the world survived world war 2, we are not going extinct.

your energy would unironically be better spent combing through the latest crypto pump and dump.

>>28056683
>Hyperinflation
HAHA! I can wait. Me and my friends have been buying up so many stocks, when everything hyperinflates, we are going to be so rich. It's going to be Awsome! When Biden send me that $2k stimulus check, i'm going to put it all into TESLA.

>>28058280
Stop posting your own shit. I subscribe to a ton of conspiracy theories, but my experience and intuition both tells me that those that predict with dates are not to be trusted.

Also I survived several "astrologically significant" dates so fuck off with that too.

So is this worth investing in RSR? The hyperinflation token?

>>28058111
>>28058243
unironically america in the 19th century was anarcho capitalist and it was a runaway success.
there was no federal reserve, no income tax, no public education and barely any law enforcement, barely any laws at all, there were no regulations on anything. yet still we built dozens of new cities and homes for 40+million new people in an enormous inland empire.
it was all done through private enterprise, all the factories, railroads, cities, prisons, public works like libraries and schools, the mining, quarrying, design, the infrastructure was mostly done by master craftsmen leading groups of hard working laborers, with little more than the promise of a better future driving them.
there were no bailouts, the kikes didnt get a strangehold on the US until almost a full century of capitalism had passed.
i dont even know what we have no, creditism? nothing has been real for generations

>>28056683
Start a business that facilitates federal state and local entities handing out gibs.

>>28056683
bitcoin (money)
ethereum (defi)
chainlink (truth)

>>28056792
You me HOGE.

DOGE is for actual retards.

Tell me anon, would you like to hold a shitcoin that does legit nothing?

Or would you like to hold a coin that is deflationary, unlike Doge. Pays you to hold, and has liquidity locked? If you answer yes to anything you should take all your money out of DOGE and move it to HOGE defi

>>28056683
The bear will leave its cave forever

>>28058572
Based and Luther Martinpilled

>>28058697
hurr durr KEEP THE FAITH! BUY MY BAGS!
hey i've made my money, not knocking it's existence; just saying smart money knows when to quit while ahead.

>>28056990
You niggers spent all summer saying the exact opposite.

>>28059024
Can someone post the entire copypasta again as a reminder?

>>28056683
>Hyperinflation
Nobody has any savings.

>mass lay-offs
UBI.

>millions of defaulted house payments
New moratorium extension.

>student loans
Forgiven.

We're in a decline but it's not like we're hurtling towards earth in a tailspin while on fire. I think the technocrats will continue to make our descent just slow enough for the average person to not freak out. Most people are too distracted by the "culture war" right now to notice the rug being pulled out from underneath them.

>>28058915
What we have is Feudalism. There are only two regimes, Feudalism, and Capitalism.

>>28058157
Hopefully he likes white people!

>>28059157
I also don't think there will be a catastrophe. More likely a slow descent into hell. Much cleaner and less collateral damage when people are corralled in slowly. If I was in charge I would do it like that.

>>28058915
>there were no bailouts
Not true. Washington and Hamilton oversaw the creation of the Federal Reserve which led to a massive real estate bubble, which many of their friends bought into. When it collapsed following a war and drying of European capital, it was John Adams who signed the Bankruptcy Act of 1800, which explicitly forgave the debts of speculators and bankers, while doing nothing for the unlanded, suffrageless common man. America has been a battle between foreign capital and the yeoman since our founding.

Get it over with already!

>>28056924
>PMs worthless
reddit zoomers rope

>>28058016
kek, this.

>>28059429
That's what I was thinking while watching the news recently. It's like a crab market. Fucking boring.

>>28057068
wages stay same. prices go WAY up

>>28056924
Currently it is trapped in 'assets' ala Real Estate, stocks, bonds, paper commodities & bank accts.

But it only takes one domino to fall to cause a cascade effect and the end of the US of A.

>>28059157
>notice the rug being pulled out from underneath them.
possibly the case before 2020, after the holocough lockdowns theres no hiding from it and what you see around you now is willful ignorance, playing dumb, which is just compliance and acceptance.
theres no real appetite to oppose whats coming or we would have seen it manifest already, we're all living in a virtual reality where we get to pretend it isnt happening.

>>28059175
its over.

>>28059334

is this real

>>28056683
ignore the noise, keep investing.

>>28056683
The media is always wrong. This is extremely bullish

>>28056683
Bitcoin.

Essentially what I am anticipating to happen, is that the US will follow the Argentinian economic model and then end up closer to what Venezuela is like. This will be completed in the next 20 years.

>>28056924
The Jewish

>>28056972
Will be deflationary unless lockdowns end. In that case, the M1 velocity of money will increase, inflation and interest rates will rise, and the government will be unable to service the national debt.

Thus, lockdowns will be used to control the velocity of money, expect them to continue as the government requires.

>>28056683
Guys, the sole purpose of BTC is to eat inflation. We'll be fine. Funds are safu! The USD is going to stay strong and safe for at least another decade.

>>28059367
>Hamilton
jewish, they have been around forever, theyre grip didnt tighten to a choke until 1913.
the period i refer to as proof capitalism works is the era post napolean/jacksons trail of tears leading upto the civil war and a few decades after it.
fash the nation did a great deep dive on the situation in india just now, who have millions of agrarian communities and small holders in a similar place to where america was in the 19th century and earlier, again theyre being legislated against and destroyed by ((modi)). theres all sorts of parallels and the expected outcome of forcing the population into a worker/consumer society will likely take place there aswell.

>>28059915
Very well said

>>28056683
Great link u homo

Buying more grt and amp

>>28059928
Peak delusion. Everyone is racing to get this over with, lockdowns will end , at the worst, next Spring, vaccinations should pass the critical threshold in the late Summer. Thre's pent up demand up the wazoo, there will be bottlenecks everywhere, and everybody will have cash to spend. That's Inflation.

>>28056972
Aren't rates just gonna go up and we return to normal but slightly more shitty?

>>28058955
Based dubs of truth.

>>28060124
Can most companies survive 6 more months of lockdown? What about mortgage payments?

>>28057412
Tangible assets. Land, housing, commodities (oil, corn, wheat, potentially gold/silver), anything you can touch with your bare hands. Crypto is a wildcard. I will probably not sell crypto but may exchange it for the above

>>28060204
Powell already said " fuck it, lol ", no they won't. The FED 's philosophy is, and always will be, "shit happens, we'll clean it up later "

I am not prepared and I’m still not totally that worried. Explain that one.

>>28056683
Inflation yes
How could people default with inflation idiot? You repay the bank with worthless money
Stanley Druckenmiller thinks inflation will hit 10%+

>>28060414
there will be inflation, but people's incomes wont rise. you'll still make $10/hr, but everything will cost 100x.

>>28060476
i make hundreds of thousands so k
Agree to be worried about inflation
I think real estate with fixed rate mortgage would be one of the best hedges
Rents rise with inflation and after repaying the bank with a pile of worthless money you own real assets

>>28060398
Because bad things always happen all the time to entire countries, so if you have to go through like 10 years once or twice, it's not that big of a deal.

>>28057412
>It's not like the money goes away
Unrealized profits are not money.

>>28060277
Depends if Govs are willing to pick up the tab, by waving some taxes, or using grants, or tax credits, or some other tomfuckery. That's not the bad part. The bad part, is when they come up with the tab. The honest way to pay down debt, is raising taxes, and trimming the budget, like after WWII. But the Dems base is addicted to Welfare, so they'll do it the pajeet way, "inflate the debt away". Niggers can do math, so they'll never find out they're getting fucked, but based 4chans know that if they get a 15% raise, and inflation is 30%, they're getting fucked.

>>28060541
about to buy a house in few months. thinking about whether i should go all out and buy at the top of my budget or be conservative.

>>28059611
Does it look real to you?

>>28059928
Brainlettes, velocity isn't directly measurable. It is a ratio, calculated by v= gdp / m2
So you're basically saying that ending lockdowns will suddenly raise GDP, or will cause M2 to fall bigly. This despite:
>incoming mortage, rent, and loan repayments
>higher taxes
>cost push inflation (higher fuel prices, supply shortages / disruptions)
>demographics
>government spending as half of GDP

>>28060008
Agreed, the free banking homestead period was our nation's finest hour

>>28057120
The only escape is the sea. All land will be owned and turned into a nature reserve - it will be illegal to occupy such land. You will have to live in the smart cities (prisons)

>>28060653
what about going moderate and throwing the rest in a rental property
you can hire a company to manage it for 10% or less of rent
def put the least amount down for non-FHA (conventional) loan assuming your credit score is decent. 3% or 5%

>>28058280
>2.16
>harvest
fugg

>>28056924
if - and that's a big if - another crash happens, there really is no "safe haven". What happens during a crash is that everyone needs to liquidate their positions in order to cover other leveraged positions and so on. This causes a cascading effect. And that's not to mention people cashing in their assets for cash because they got laid off and need that money now for food and rent. Even gold/silver took a massive shit during the last two crashes in 2020 and 2008 for this reason.

All I know is that *IF* a black swan crash does happen, crypto has proven itself resilient and would bounce back soon enough. Just look at the 2020 crash. The panic sellers got burned. Those who held had their gains recover in a month or two, and soon after they were pushing even higher.

>>28060383
I'm from Canada and our rates are at the mercy of the market, so they're already raring to go up.
That's fucking weird anon. Do they want to keep rates low post pandemic to avoid a housing collapse? What's the game plan?

Canada has accrued a shit ton of debt and our government doesn't seem to know what to do about it. Take a look at our central bank asset sheet.
Maybe I'm retarded but this looks like a radical change in monetary policy.
It was also interesting hearing comparisons with previous recessions. Where the government provides liquidity and encourages activity. But in this case we provided liquidity and discouraged activity? It's strange times for sure.

>>28056683
Buy GME. Guaranteed to reach infinite dollars per share. Just two more weeks to liftoff so HODL.

There is absolutely no way you collapse 50% of businesses with a lockdown, tax everyone to death in blue states causing them to run away, tell everyone to stay inside and collect massive unemployment, give out stimulus, shut down large parts of the economy, give everyone free shit with no production involved, have blocks on payment of mortgage to landlords, shut down most of the world, have a housing market with numbers so fucking ridiculously high with low interest rates, a stock market with crazy returns and highs, interference with stock market (Robinhood), and just print your way out of this. It will be chaos like you can't even imagine

>>28060653
wouldn't the asshole hurt when you pull up the panties up that high?

Did she get a wedgie from the school bully and she's showing this photo as evidence to her principal? I don't really get this image.

>>28060749
my loan limit wont be enough to cover both my residence and a rental. i do want to get into the rental game in the future tho. or another alternative is settling for a multi family property, duplex etc.

>>28060853
50% of small businesses*

>>28058565
Crypto backed by “bag holders” >>>>> FIAT backed by literally fucking NOTHING like literally. Fucking. Nothing. Your dollar is a dollar because gubment says so and if they say so they can print double the money in circulation effectively cutting your wealth in half due to inflation. Oh wait. They already did that.

>>28060124
>Lockdowns will end
As I said, this is inflationary.
>Thre's pent up demand up the wazoo, there will be bottlenecks everywhere, and everybody will have cash to spend.
This is velocity of money, which will cause inflation to spike, also as I said (but as you point out, it will be much worse due to all the newly minted fiat).

Live cattle, wheat, copper etc. All of these necessary commodities have exploded in the last few months. Farmers are struggling to afford cattle.

>>28060817
Look at Japan, since 1989. Stagflation. High Inflation, low wages. It's fucking hell. They will let Inflation loose, to "inflate the debt away", let people get fucked, and after a while, a long while, start to raise rates, to curb inflation. But Inflation is like fire, it can get out of hand very quickly .

>>28059964
I agree with you about it's purpose but I don't think it will end up being workable as people or nations will demand hard assets

>>28061082
Fuck, how are we going to deal with our debt?

>>28060619
Actually yeah I guess this is the answer.

>>28056806

Linkgang we run this shit

>>28056683
http://www.ps-survival.com/PS/index.htm
Learn to become self-sufficient.

>>28061136
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT !. Imagine you signed a mortgage, like five years ago, to pay X dollars a month. You still pay the same ammount, it's a way to cheat your debts.

>>28059066
let me guess. you think your smart money.

>>28061049
>Thus, lockdowns will be used to control the velocity of money, expect them to continue as the government requires.

What's the best plan then? oil stocks and treasury inflation-protected securities with some silver on the side?

>>28060877
gotcha. Depends where are you in life, if you are cool living with people or have partner who wants something else, etc.
Just put the least down possible with where rates are today and invest the rest in something that will outpace inflation. Foreign stocks are good or rental properties. If you have 780+ FICO you can get ~2.5% rate. That is the minimum inflation will be over the next 5-10 years.
Think of a rental. "Oh boy inflation is 5-10%"
>Rent increase 5-10%
>Mortgage does not increase
>Cash in your pocket increases

>>28056683
Post sauce or you're a narrative-peddling poo in loo nigger

>>28061468
This is my conspiracy theory take on the situation.

>>28056924
Physical fucking silver!! This is the time for silver to shine!

>>28056683
fuck yawn every years biz predict a crash, u wankers are worst than peter schiff

>>28057457
So Trump?

>>28057435
>it will cost a months pay for your morning coffee
Bullshit. This system will inevitably reduce to barter and hyperinflation will be stopped.

>>28061468
>>28061557

Absolutely inane
Even CA just lifted lockdown
I believe theory that they were to hurt Trump and have been lifted to help Biden and/or Newsom lifted lockdown because he fears being recalled and thrown out
But CA and NY are easing up
Vaccine rolling out
EU facing huge protests over lockdowns and civil revolt
To think lockdown will be used to prevent in inflation is insanity
Inflation is coming
Buy foreign, especially Asia, equities and commodity producers

>>28061709
Younger Trump.
Tuck Carlson or someone similar.

It mostly depends on your location, but speaking as a britbong, the lockdowns are pretty much only going on to ensure people do not realize that nothing is left. I'm sure most are looking for escape methods as we speak.

Here we have till probably March before they start transitioning the Universal Credit system into a UBI. From that point it'd simply be expanding the program.

Stock shortages are starting to become an issue, but at the moment it is random items. We still have some warehouses with stock, but generally supplies are going to be used up by Summer. Maybe earlier if they re-open again.

You have this year to 'make it', get any supplies from society you want and get the fuck out of society before it all goes to shit.

End of year, October probably, will be the vaccine passports for the UK at least. The idea is to wait until as many as possible have the vaccine before making it mandatory for work or travel, those who refuse will be barred from travel, trapping them. Eventually in a 'camp' similar to how Germany is planning to put deniers in.

>>28061572
You better start believing in conspiracy theories glow nigger, you are in one.

>>28061482
thankfully im eligible for a VA loan with 0% down.

>>28061836
Anon, i was actually quoting what the other guy said. I called it peak delusion. Go back, and read what i actually said.

>>28061954
Beautiful and no PMI for VA loans
Don't borrow anywhere near the max they will lend you
Being house poor sucks personal finance/stress wise and leaves less to invest & diversify
Good luck on new home

>>28062045
thanks fren

>>28056683
Investing in Kneepads and $HRT

>>28061082
Anyone else see that USDA larp earlier?

It was just a larp right, guys?

>>28056683
where did rich people move their assets to in 1929? From what I understand all the stock market is is musical chairs w/ kike money. So did they move it to real estate or physical capital?

>>28056683
by hodling me

>>28062173
They shoved all of their assets into their prison wallets. They knew rough times were ahead.

>>28061557
It's a Business Insider article from a few days ago.
Use the internet Archive to read for free.

>>28061848
I agree on significant political instability in USA coming
Inflation almost always coincides with significant political violence and national chaos
As to who might be coming down the pipe, people like AOC vs Bolsonaro-esque figure ("Trump 2.0") for 2024 or 2028 US pres election
Someone who promises everything to everyone vs someone who actually admires or aspires to be a dictator unlike lefties projected ideas of Trump
>Bolsonaro has publicly referred to the military dictatorship as a "glorious" period in Brazil's history
>filename

>>28056683
>muh hyperinflation
You fags were saying this back in March

>>28056924
The elite implode the economy so they can buy up assets for pennies on the dollars while the normie rats are scrambling for something to eat.

>>28062173
This time perhaps Bitcoin, can't be tracked and its safer than anything really, goddamm there will be trillionaires when it goes up to 100 million dollars a coin.

nft
staking
profit
stufff fuck it.
why would you put it all in one dumb thing?
you’re dumb as dick.
>my wallet with playcent and you will lick this nibba dick with fucking trash you use

>>28062173
see
>>28061836
1929 was a left hand side deflationary depression...
...so long term government bonds and cash did best.
In an inflation you want to own:
Commodity producers (energy best sector YTD 2021
Real estate with fixed rate loan (repay bank with worthless money and keep house)
and some stocks, especially foreign stocks in countries with better finances (China)

>>28056872
>student loans all paid off by new stimulus
$1400 will pay almost nobody’s student loans, you guys sure post some retarded shit here.

>>28062453
What asset or assets would 'the elites' keep their money in waiting for things to collapse?
It is almost certainly investable for retail investors today

>>28056683
Thats all just speculation.

>boomer gets sour grapes after tech cucks his portfolio by 10x
Have yet to see any of these boomers shorting the market if theyre so sure of a crash

I'll stay home and masturbate, I don't really care.

>>28056924
kek fundamentals don't matter anymore. any investments the elite has will just continue to go up while they adjust the market around it with new laws.

>>28060717
based 2085 time traveler

>>28058016
Bro trust me, as soon as I get a wifi signal ill send you crypto, I'm totally good for it trust me. Now can I please have some food and ammo?

>>28056990
based
>>28059094
nigger

>>28062617
That's what they said in 2007.

>>28058697
So when the dollar crypto is backed by crashes tell me what will happen to your pretend money you can't even buy goods with?

>>28063031
Who said what?

>>28056683
Fucking finally! I'm so sick of jews and liberals.

>>28056872
>POC
but...why?

>>28058894
>he posted in a thread foretelling and predicting the financial collapse

>>28058697
It's not even the market cap of one big company.

>>28061643
>>28057829
Bro...

>>28057829
First? You are so far behind its not even funny.

>>28056872
wtf is POC? piece of chit?

Been seeing a lot of this kind of thought today. USDA anon sounded pretty genuine earlier. Conspiracy hat off: it always seems like Fed can just print its way out of every problem and the collapse that we were due ages ago is just never going to happen.

Hat on: it's going to be so fucking bad, and I am going to buy a bandsaw mill as a hedge against the collapse of industrial society.

>>28061836
>Even CA just lifted lockdown
Then why is everything still closed locked down here?

>>28062469
Went market crashed in March 2020 btc also dumped.

Stocks and fiat are literally all complete bullshit. This puts them in the super state of both crashing and never crashing. They have no reason to have value, yet have no reason to lose value. We are at a point where society is wondering why retirement is tied to a Jewish gambling algo.

We probably have a few more years of insane asset bubbles. The SPX ran nearly 500% in the decade leading up to March 2000 and nearly 700% since the 1987 crash. The SPX is now up x3 in the last decade and nearly 500% since the 2008 crash. While I admit were in a clown market, it feels like we have some time to go before we see peak clown market. I am using the current and upcoming bubble as a chance to amass my fortune.

>>28063980
>Sandbox tech that is valued in the billions definitely not bullshit.
Crypto is fine buts its not ready for prime time. When it becomes ubiquitous there will only be a basket of tradeable cryptos. The rest will be tokenized versions of existing securities and maybe some new ones.

>>28064055
hope you're right. I need a few more years, probably 5 to walk away with the cash.. "value" I need.

>>28056683
It is known.

>>28056683

believe it or not but the next big short will come soon..

>>28056683
Nothing ever happens

>>28056806
>>28056792
I'd say XRP and more specifically IOTA you actual fucking retards

>>28057719
Moreso than most vehicles, yes.
It actually has a utility factor besides getting from A to B

>>28058090
you have to be 18 to post here

>>28059611
No of course not. No one on the East Coast calls orb chase "soccer".

>>28061082
Food and housing are quite affordable in Japan. Even in Tokyo. They're fucked by immortal pensioners And no babies. It'll sort itself in another generation.

>>28063980
smooth brain retard. fiat is bullshit. stocks are not bullshit. saying stocks are bullshit is like saying owning your own small business is bullshit.
owning part of a company entitles you to a portion of the profits.

>>28062173
FDR bought up shittons of Weimar land in the 1920s during hyperinflation

Remember, you don't have to prepare. Just kill the guy who did and eat his food.

>>28062596
Land, as always. Just remember how right now something like 90% of independent "family owned" restaurants and stores are in fact owned by banks or mall-type consortia, which merely rent out a sublet for eternity.

>>28056924
I noticed when elite establishments like Goldman sachs or JP morgan announce there is going to be an economic crash of the sort stocks start rallying. Until they start being bullish it's literally have to do the opposite lmao.

>>28061865
are there food shortages already? i saw it on some news report while googling it and only UK news turned up.

bitcoin will be worth at least $1,000,000 per coin as early as 2021.

>>28056683

Ok guys, what would trigger the next meltdown?

Last time it happened 14 yrs ago it was over housing.

>>28064664
Fuck off, loser.

>>28065452
all the cdo bullshit just made it worse, there doesn't need to be a trigger. it's called a market cycle, it's like asking why the south sea bubble crash or why are humans greedy.
let's just say an alien invasion is the trigger. point is it doesn't matter

>>28056924
The money is virtual- it literally disspears through more debt with less value. The money goes the same place it came from- thin fucking air.

>>28056972
>M2 increases by 6 trillion in 2020
>thinking the US economy didn't contract by twice that

lmfao its deflationary anon

>>28065716
You know what else is deflationary? Student loan debt. Uh oh
You know what else is deflationary? People having to work to get money. Uh oh
You know what else is deflationary? High interest rates. Uh oh
You know what else is deflationary? Not borrowing so much money from your private central bank that your entire GDP isn't enough to service the INTEREST PAYMENTS. UH OH

>>28056872
Damn its good to be a shitskin finally.

>>28064055
In 1989 in Japan the markets still did a 65x before the crash in 91-92.

>The bubble was characterized by rapid acceleration of asset prices and overheated economic activity, as well as an uncontrolled money supply and credit expansion.[2] More specifically, over-confidence and speculation regarding asset and stock prices were closely associated with excessive monetary easing policy at the time.[3]

>>28057905
ID checks out

>>28066171
And all it took was whites to become suicidal to get there.

>>28056683
people been predicting crashes since 1927 tho, the crash will come like april according to buffet

>>28062913
Radio transmission will never go down and you can send Bitcoin tx through radio signals.

>>28058915
TOPKEK
>muh “anarcho”-capitalism
This is your brain on r*ddit.

>>28066399
And how do-able is that when the guy next to you has a nice shinny silver or ammo or anything else that's not a internet currency that's backed by a failing currency.

ready and loaded for the upcoming collapse

>cash is rapidly losing value anon, dont hold any fiat unless you like losing money!

>a huge crash is coming anon, make sure you have fiat ready to buy the dip!

what the fuck do i do none of this shit is congruous

>>28060383
Implying this wasn’t engineered by the fed themselves.
Create a problem and deliver the solution.

>>28063346
>Posts chart of it doing well in 2008 depression
Anon, are you retarded?

>>28056683
Sounds based

>>28060277
No. Already, half the commercial real estate units in my city seem to be sitting empty now, and it's only cascading further.

>>28058215
I bought a truck for 20k before COVID, now it’s worth 25k but the government tells me we have no inflation lmao

>>28066681
Diversify.

>>28066681
Crrrrrypto safe haven

>>28057454
worlds pretty fucked, anon.

>>28066681
This but you should balance your portfolio since everyone has the wrong advice but belief in a crash creates a crash

>>28066681
It's obvious cash is king if you time it right; the problem is what if you're sitting in cash for 2/3 years absolute certain that the crash is next week.
Hyperinflation is a meme and you will get ample warning before it happens.
Cash out if think it's habbening in the next 2-3 months or at least allocate 10% to 50% of your total portfolio as cash depending on your risk preference.

>>28066681
Anon someone here is a part of the cantillion elite, no one can tell you. All markets are a musical chairs of asset allocations and pump and dump. These experts were calling for a massive crash since we did the V shaped recovery.

>>28056924
Crash or no crash, the cash comes from the mother of all kikes Janet Yellen and just goes directly to all the other kikes. We fight over the scraps.

>>28057270
>Save money
>hyperinflation

>>28056683
NEETS will become the new elite of the upcoming new world order currency - cryptocurrency. Don't cash out your bitties and linkies, guys. Fortune is ahead.

>>28062173
1929 was more hyperdelfation than hyperinflation.
Jesus this board is retarded.

>>28057454
Yea you’re right anon, it’s not like I can’t go outside anymore.

>>28066892
fr? proof?

>>28056683
great just as i got started in stocks

>>28056990
>>28056872
Yeah show me where all these free houses and jobs are for black people, you dumb, out-of-touch neet still suckling on your mothers tit

>>28056864
Crypto is too young, it will be liquidated like it was at beginning of covid. Smart people who can waste money will buy

>>28057068 bunch of retards doomsaying based off their flawed understanding of economics and the financial system

If you stake through the year you'll get profit. If you're a flipper go fuck yourself
lol still use this shit and believe in this schiller's trash
don’t be so tarded dude, nft is new age
want to see it by yourself? support fucking amazing playcent and forget about that nibba shit you use now

>>28067410
literally happened to me in 2008. got my first real job in 2006, dumped money in through 2007 got rugpulled a lot cause I was a complete noob making stupid choices

>>28056924
swing trading, put back ratios, and covered calls.

>>28067292
unequivocally based

The banks are doing alright, they have liquidity.
The stocks are very overvalued (eg Tesla).
There is too much debt floating around, creating zombie companies, which is a risk for insurance companies.
I think that will be the first sign, pension funds could also feel the brunt of it.

Yet, I can't shake the feeling that technology will make any crash look like a correction going forward. Advancing technology is inherently deflationary. More than 40% of world GDP increase happened in the 21st century. All the years of human economic activity from 2000 BC to the 1900s look like a small bleep on a chart compared to what we've seen since post-WW2. And the influence of technology is only increasing.

>>28067688
buy a s&p 500 inverse ETF as a hedge against either a dip or a crash in the market

>>28068173
its unsustainable

>>28062426
Most commodities have doubled since then

>>28062469
Bitcoin can be tracked lmao

>>28068173
but GDP increases with inflation....

kind of a dumbass way to measure stuff anon

>>28056683

Until the housing market collapses. There won't be a collapse. Housing market too strong and stable. Low interest.

>>28056924
Gold nigga

>>28068173
wow kinda makes one think that these numbers aren't attached to anything meaningful

>>28067407
This is in Australia. All used cars appreciated 20-30% this year

>>28068380
Look at nominal or per capita GDP, even adjusted for inflation. There is no comparison. Technology is pushing us to new heights.

>>28056792
Now is tiem for doge.

>>28057352
>>28057577
>After every hyper-inflation event, there's a dictator in the end
>Fascism sounds fun NGL, as long as I'm part of the preferred in-group and not the unwanted gulag boys.
Every dictator rose to power with the support of organized people and institutions.
Look around at the state of society today, every single powerful institution is filled with retarded commies with the exception being the military (but they're weeding out Trump supporters there). Not to mention the government selectively enforces and only applies the law against right wing organized groups/protests, while lefties get bailed out and not charged. We already see white people openly vilified in media with no backlash and news is selectively reported to demonize whites at every turn, history has shown when this kind of dehumanization occurs gulags and maybe even genocide against white people are in our future.

Not trying to blackpill but this concerns me greatly, and there's some hope a right wing resistance can occur and should they succeed in bringing a dictator to power then the country could be restored to its former glory, but they appear to be the underdog.

>>28066892
Fellow Australian here it's amazing how much of my crap I've sold for a decent price on Gumtree this year. Sell your contents while you can!

>>28056683
Hyperinflation won't happen because every country has the same interlocked central bank and all they have to do is pump a bunch of printed currency in one economy and then, after observing some small inflation, pump currency into another country as a balancing effect. This is how things go so that no one country experiences hyperinflation. C'mon man

>>28056683
The crash will be avoided till at least the end of the year because of all the normies who will start getting into this. In fact they might even delay the crash because HODL is all they know.
They won't sell when it moons they won't sell when it dips, they won't sell when nothing happens (most of them at least)
Now stop talking about a crash because it sets up a chain reaction if enough people buy into it the crash will happen earlier.
Its better to just pump everything and not warn anyone so when the last pump happens you can get out first. With a little extra
Repeat after me anon
We Are All Going To Make It!

>>28057270
No money, get as much real shit as you can
Land real estate gold heroin
Also degenerate while you still can

>>28056683
Wow maybe if you niggers
OPENED THE ECONOMY.
>Bloody crash coming
>bankers will be killed
>politicians purged
>new hitler rises
>armageddon

>>28064664
>XRP
kys shill
yall already dumped normies
isnt that enough?

>>28056924
Silver AND Bitcoin

>>28068394
low interest won't matter when standard homes are selling for $1mm+

>>28058280
>February 16th
>216
It's happening

>>28056924
7.62 the true reserve currency

>>28070348
>not 30.06
ngmi

>>28056683
Time is cyclical

>>28056683
Cash, PMG, Mining Stocks

>>28068181
Yeah, I have half my portfolio in the S&P, and the other half in an inverse S&P. I've been holding like this for the last 20 years.

So far I've broken perfectly even, not sure when I will make or lose any money.

>>28056872
Its good to be a mexican right now.
We are basically the best option as a minority.
>Our poor are hardworking and will do all the work you don't want to for cheap.(the sleeping under a cactus meme was put out of context)
>Illegals cannot get as many benefits and sometimes none at all
>native Mexicans are basically 1950s-1970s republican in terms of how we should run the country.
>They will quickly out earn and cuck the blacks and send them to live further away from us.

>>28056872
this is literally Australia. All the indigenous folk get everything for free and they still aren't happy

>>28062173
Gold.

>>28071360
Silver, too.

>>28056683
>MUH COLLAPSE FOR THE NTH TIME SINCE PETER SCHIFF SAID SO
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, keep shouting that the sky is falling.

>>28066584
Based RSR chad

USD is a shitcoin, but it's like gold compared to other fiat dogshit

>>28071524

>>28068173
Just buy FNGU or TQQQ and retire in 10 years

>>28071598
You guys have been saying this shit since the 2010s. I remember babby's first look at "doomsday economics" when Peter Schiff was always harping about hyperinflation this and that. Again, I'll believe it when I see it.

>>28071524
I'm off the 'sudden collapse' train and on the 'managed decline' train desu. Your life's just going to get appreciably less comfortable with every passing month

>>28071772
USA 2021 = Japan 1989

There will be no collpase so long as no one is able to challenge the us military might, and even then nothing will happen because of M A D from nukes. You would need a country who could develop technology to beutralize any threat of nukes, and it certainly wont be china. Invest in the market or lose out on the bull tun of your lives

>>28056872
>be american arab
>deal with racism
>don't get poc benefits
fuck Amerikkka

>>28072338
google uranium deficit

>>28072385
Thats not kicking in for the next millenia and at that point anyone living now will be long dead so why care lmao

>>28072450
pic probably related

>>28056683
>buy guns, buy land
Why are happeningfags so dramatic?

>>28072338
>There will be no collpase so long as no one is able to challenge the us military might
>collpase
No one, absolutely no one, is thinking the world economy will collapse. We're talking about depression and economic crises here, it doesn't have anything to do with nukes and buying ammo in your SHTF LARP fantasy.

There might be a correction soon but we won't go back to the stone age, just like we didn't in the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis.

>>28056972

The Fed is doing everything they can to spur inflation, after failing to achieve their inflation targets year after year after year.

It's an open secret that a deflationary bust is the real threat - the Fed themselves have all but said this. Most of the money printing has not entered the actual economy, but has been held in reserve accounts and won't make its way into the hands of the population unless banks loan more credit. That's literally how money comes into existence. But guess what the banks are doing? Tightening lending, for obvious reasons (the economy is in the shitter).

It's really only the direct fiscal stimulus that has actually entered the economy.

I do think we see a fully parabolic blow off top first, but all the signs are there and have been for years - they just kicked into overdrive on Fed stimulus in 2020.

>>28072708
I completely agree, any collapse will simply be a blimp in the stock market, the 4th industrial revolution is already here and the increases in efficiency and growth will outpace any sort of depression. even then the only people that will be fucked are the dump fucks in retail and menial labor, and deservedly so Since theyre not producing anymore value than a robot equivalent

0xMR

>>28058915
>the kikes didnt get a strangehold on the US until almost a full century of capitalism had passed.
Wrong, it already started before the revolution slowly and they took over completely after. But you are sort of right, less regulations good.

>>28057120
I’ve got my money split between shorts and a kayak (which my neighbor keeps calling a canoe.)
If the economy collapsed tomorrow I’d just go full TD and paddle around the east coast while working on my OS/browser/compiler on my pinephone.

>>28058280
not trips, I can't believe it anon.
Also, when Biden prints 1.9 trillion dollars for Covid, then gives 500 billion for black communities, THEN gives student loan forgiveness like this anon said >>28056924—it will have people flocking to the stock market as a safe heaven from inflation.
Honestly though, I wouldn't discount another flash crash or something, but even so, the inflation ALONE would be enough to appreciate assets we own and the stock market.
lol you might even see weird stuff like used cars become a little more expensive because of all the money we're about to be printing.

>>28073388
Have you been living under a rock? There will be no student loan forgiveness, and the supposed biden bux is getting smaller by the week. If everything goes belly up (they) stand to lose orders of magnitudes more than anyone else.

>>28073070
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
stop trying to steal from people by lying to them about the capabilities of the project
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>28056990
those wipipo envy us brother

>>28074165

>>28073388
>lol you might even see weird stuff like used cars become a little more expensive because of all the money we're about to be printing.

Happens in many third world...... cars appreciating in value

>>28056924

GOOOOOOOOOOLD (as it did in Weimar)

>>28058171
The housing prices are ruining for lots of people tho
They are prohibiting people from owning their shelter
Its evil

>>28056683
5-10 years? Finally I can buy the dip! :))))

>>28061082
You WISH your situation will be as good as Japan. The cost of living in Japan, even in Tokyo, is still better then in most major western cities.

>>28063794
Because they got fucked last time we reopened. Businesses drained what little cash they still had trying to comply with new health requirements and were promptly forced to shut down again anyway barely two months later. There's no confidence because a cabal of corrupt, panicky, self-serving boobs write our state legislation.

>>28061082
Tokyo is a paradise compared to every American city

>>28057335
They've held through multiple empires collapsing, through thousands of years. I think shiny rock will do as shiny rock has always done.

we're gonna see some serious shit.