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>>279782
>how do I get mad traffic?

By:
Not using blogger. Get a real site nig.
Doing actual keyword research for the site/posts
Not posting your boring fucking life stories/ideas

But you wont make any money. Adsense isn't worth it. Sell your own products, do CPA, or be an affiliate for someone else. Instead of making 70c a click you can make $30+.

the last blogger thread got 404d.

HAM will probably be here anytime. but he's always active on Palringo, you can find him there.

also, I got questions OP. you had 13 posts but you now have adsense? how long did it take for you to get that shit enabled, because when I try to go to my earnings tab, it says that my blog is not eligible for adsense application, and I cant click the apply for adsense button. its greyed out. please reply on my email the address of your blog. ive got mine running for weeks now with about 10 posts, still cant apply

>>279782

>>279859
This, thread pretty much over.

>>280051
my email btw

I copy answers to my homework for my online accounting class on blogger. use adsense. made $85.00 so far in 2 months.

>>280051
>>279782
I see lol i did not notice this thread its me Ham (USA) you can also talk to anyone inadsense groups in palringo about me. Also you can find cheap traffic in the group. There several people who resell traffic at a cheap price like me :) adsense/yahoo ads safe. I can give you 30k for $2. Thats about 1k per day from all over the world. These are old ads from other dead groups but 60% info still valid :)

>>280561
Forgot to add some guys in my group will give traffic in exchange of clicks but only if you are USA UK or any T1 country but you need to be verify first.

>>280572
personally i exchange very little to keep safe and diversify my earnings. Earn less but safer. HAM

>>280572
how do you verify?

>>280585
there 3 ways to get verify. 1. phone call 2. website that reveals your ip 3.teamview. Depends on who verify you.

>>280051
>. you had 13 posts but you now have adsense? how long did it take for you to get that shit enabled, because when I try to go to my earnings tab, it says that my blog is not eligible for adsense application, and I cant click the apply for adsense button. its greyed out. please reply on my email the address of your blog. ive got mine running for weeks now with about 10 posts, still cant apply

Maybe you can call google. And op here I don't see HAM on adsense just a bunch of indians pakistani, im starting to get the hang of it but i want to actually talk to a normal person.

>>280561
Also op again here I went to this group but looks pretty dead.

>>281026
Rule:

every country outside of india and pakistan is good for exchanges.

>>281038

Where can I find some americanos, chattersedge looks dead.

>>281043
theres many in palringo. join the adsense exchange group with 400 members. then on the members list ,look for anyone with a country tag that is not IND or PK. add me on google+ Stefan K?hler, I dont have adsense yet but when I do I can exchange with you

>>281043
also can you put your blog on pastebin and put it here. i wanna look at it, maybe theres something wrong with my blog, I still cant apply for adsense

>>281043
i said the image is OLD. Go to palringo join adsense groups if your real USA thenr you be invited to a USA only group, my own group is every country and the biggest but there T1 country ONLY groups that i have no power over them. HAM

>>281126
do you work for google?

So what happens if years ago I signed up for adsense when I was 17 and said I was 18? I currently have like 80 dollars that I can't cash out because of the 100 limit, and would like to make money with ads. What should I do? Will I get any hassle for this? If I start bringing in income-reportable earnings, will I have problems?

>>281264
Just start slow. Problem solved do 1 exchange per week and slowly increase over time. HAM

>>281269
I mean, if I ever got to the point where my ads were making in enough cash to necessitate running it through the IRS, would Google look closely enough to raise eyebrows?

>>281280
I dont think google looks at your tax stuff. ONly the IRS will bust you. Google only cares that your name matches the bank account they pay you in.

>>281261
lol ham this is me, stefan lol

>>281550

implying he would share it here anywa, too many eyes man, too many eyes

>>281550
OMGGGGG. were you the one who started this thread? Anyway thank you. The more that join the more everyone earns. Also please dont say your name for safety <3 HAM

I have a blog with around 50 posts and made much moneys from adsense! Suggest everybody to join adsense boost exchanger on palringo group messenger

>>282244
Also anyone want to know a guy who i work for used to earn 4k USD per month from vietnam. He was a living legend. linuxandlife.com

HAM

Some old group in skype call lunar cult.

Join palringo RUn search for adsense groups and enjoy. HAM

>>282651
some old earning of mines.

Yay we have 500 members now. HAM but i guess you can see from my ID but i change IP everyday to click my clients.

I'm reluctant to try the Palringo thing. I don't really want to get my adsense banned.

>>281264
Wondering about this too.

I signed up for adsense when I was 16, now 19 and wanting to cash out but worried Adsense will find my age and delete my account/take my money.

>>283610
people get ban even if they are not in exchange groups. You need to look at risk vs returns. So you earn 10X more by exhanging but you get banned from 6-12 months (average time before banned). Instead of getting natural clicks for 1 year and only earn $100 you can earn over $2,000 in 1 year. 2k per year is super low i even earn more and im consider a low earner in group. HAM

PS" the pic is before i got banned the first time. Now i rather earn less to stay safe not banned yet. I laster 12 months earning 600 paying my 28% tax withholding so i was making more then 600 per month.

>>283627
Earn to cash out find out. If your in $80 now you can make $20 in like a day but best to make it in a month just to be safe. find out if you get pay. problem solved. HAM

What's the best way to get impressions, next to just trading for impressions?

And what are good topics to blog about, or doesn't the sort of content that you're blogging about matter?

Final question, how many hours a day is spend on the blogging / trading together?

>>279859
>CPA
What is that

Realistically, how much money can I make with this in a month without a shit ton of effort?

>>284581
Cost Per Action

>>284618
like $200

>>284618
like 348 bucks

>>279782
Thanks OP for the update. The last thread was only like two weeks ago and you already got adsensed.

Keep us updated please if you begin to acquire currency through any adsense group you join.

I want to do this by joining a group myself but want to avoid any click group that requires remote access to my computers.

>>285049

I was not op from last thread but was inspired. I got in the american adsense group. Its much better then indian/paki. I only get about 1 dollar per ad-clicking exchange with americans, but my blogs still new, some say they may 5 dollars per exchange and more. You can make 100 dollars a day once your set up, doing 2 hours of exchanges a day. Its still not much money compaired to a real job, but its going to be for my wife who stays at home.

>>285049
top KEK good luck finding a group with no teamview verification. They be full of proxy. Your more then welcome to join them i mean some people are real and others are fake there no quality control. Just join palringo search for ADSENSE join all the group the ones that dont ban you are the ones that dont care abotu quality. HAM

>>285191
Are you quaxi germany?

Tell them that that T1 only group also requires verification. When i join them they made me verify by teamview.

So the main way of making money off this is to get into a group and have a bunch of other guys click on your stuff?

>>285366
rule #1 don't exchange with pakistan or indians.

Does getting banned really matter?

>>285401

Then you have to go to yahoo ads, then get banned there then what your life is over.

>>285401
>>285406
If your from outside USA you can get unlimited accounts. HAM

>>285415
Also use EIN instead of SNN if you in USA. So you have 2 chances in USA to get approved in adsense.

>>285191

Can you name the american adsense group you are in?

Did you have to do the teamview verification (remote access)?

I'm open to verification btw.

I got invited to HAM i think, I friended HAM, but I can't join the group. Can't find an option

Do you guys have any suggestions on what blogs to make? I literally have no idea or talents, but want to start something. Maybe reviews? I could write very quick reviews on books or products I find on the net. But that isn't a passion of mine and I'm worried I'll just stop posting at some point.

i have a question. can you set up different adsense accounts for blogs? i want to use click exchanging for one of my blogs but not the one i care most about in case i get my adsense banned, so would creating two accounts be okay?

>>285810
i think so yes. im planning on making another blog

>>285556
[adsense boost exchangers] type that in a chat box and it becomes blue. click it and you join the group. HAM

>>286190
Yes do it with parenthesis [ ] thats what makes the word blue.

>>285474
OMG man stop making remote access like its something bad. only if you leave your computer unattended. If you want i can give you my teamview code i like to see anyone hack me. I be watching my show while you try to do anything. Anyway there other methods to get verify a phone number and some people use a special website but the most accepted method for YEARS is teamview. I was not immune to it i had to be verify even tho im a leader. HAM

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>>285810
most make multiple backup accounts. For USA people is really hard to make backup unless you have someone to loan you their SNN.

My blog gets like $0.7 per day, wouldn't goggle get suspicious when earnings shoot up after joining one of them palringo groups?

>>286669
Start slow maybe 1 per week if you want to be safe. Even people who dont exchange with their blogs get banned. Its been proven. Some people have multiple accounts that are not used in exchange and get ban. HAM

>>279782
I do blogging but not with click groups. I've posted in the last few threads and I think i've been able to give some decent advice.

I started in Dec and my blogs make around 900$/mo net. Primarily through affiliates and sales of services (which I outsource). Pretty nice business model. If you're going by standard valuation my assets are worth around 15k. I'm still a bit skeptic to re-enter the clickgroup plan since I got banned in 2011, I'd have to make a new acct and whatnot.

Feel free to ask specific questions (can't give you a link to the blogs though for obvious reasons), or you can email me if you want a private evaluation or w/e.

I have more fun answering questions than actually doing the work so...

My main advice is to learn how to do proper keyword research. That's where the money is.

>>287226
How much do you earn through advertisements?

And are there certain topics that earn more and that get more impressions / clicks? Or should you just start blogging about something that interests you?

And what is a good way besides Palringo etc to get impressions?

>>287255
>How much do you earn through advertisements?
$0
If you write for any subject other than old people interests, everyone will have adblocker. Don't you have it installed now? When was the last time you clicked an ad? As old people die off, ad business will fall. Nobody past gen x clicks ads. (Unless click group) Don't get me wrong, you can make decent money from it, but it's not the most lucrative use of your time.

> certain topics that earn more and that get more impressions / clicks?
This is the key to making money. It's all about targeting the right markets. You want something not competitive, but still has like, 10k searches a month.

>And what is a good way besides Palringo etc to get impressions?
Search engine optimization. Mostly revolving around the keywords mentioned above.

>>287267
>>287267
Hm, it's not easy to pick something that doesn't have a competitive market but still interests people AND also interests elders. I guess picking gaming wasn't the right choice after all.

Thanks for the quick response!

>>287300
I'm here all night yeah haha.

Gaming can work, but to be profitable it would have to be specific type of gaming. IE: beststarcraftbuilds.com

Keyword research and niche selection is 80% of the battle. Google keyword planner can help.

>>287306
What do you think of review websites? They seem good to put affiliate links on and ads. They're also quick to type out.

>>287226
Can explain this keyword research stuff to me. How do you do it?

I'm not familiar with the tools for this sort of thing and everywhere I do look brings me to stupid blackhat how to make money guides. Can you give an example of one of these "keywords."

>>287311
>Brief starter guide
http://quicksparkdigitallabs.com/how-to-make-money-blogging/

>Beginners keyword research
http://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo/keyword-research

One thin you can google is "long tail keywords"

>>287313
That's a proven method. You just have to have a good product to review. Once again, all about the niche you target.

>>287330
How do you employ these "keywords" on your site?

Is it as simple as including them in the text or what?

>>287342
>It’s wonderful to be ranking for keywords that have 4000 searches a day, or even 400 searches a day, but these “popular” search terms are not only highly competitive, but they also only make up around 30% of the search requests from users. Those types of keywords are called “head keywords”. The majority of searches, around 70%, are what’s called “long tail keywords”. These keywords are longer and more specific than generic terms. For example; “Shoes” is a competitive head keyword to rank for. “Best running shoes on sale” is a long tail keyword.

>http://quicksparkdigitallabs.com/seo-keywords-101/
Basically, you find a keyword you want to show up for in google. "best starcraft build" and you produce a bunch of content that is about that. But you have to do it the right way, just spaming your site with "best starcraft build" will rekt your shit. Google is smart as hell and it will rape your site to death if it think it's spam.

>>287330
Would reviewing random things be okay or should I have a very specific niche? For example, art supplies or fitness products.

>>287347
Hey, thanks for that article and the linking one at the bottom. I learned something today (about typing in long keywords in quotations in Google and finding the ones will 10,000 to 40,000 or so searches).

>>287348
very specific niche is the only way to go when you're starting out.
"best paint brushes".com
"best water colour paint".com
"art of weightlifting weights".com

something like that. Those aren't actual suggestions though, I haven't researched them.

>>287350
>Thanks, I learned something today
>mfw

>>287300
>>287306

At the moment I just post gaming news (500+ words though) but that's what all the other big websites such as IGN and GameSpot do as well, except that most of their posts contain less words.

Is weight loss a good subject? I know a lot of people actually really care about this, but the majority of people that search for that stuff is probaby too young to be 'old'.

And once you get accepted to AdSense, is it immediatly worth it getting your own domain?

>>287356
> IGN and GameSpot
If you're competition is a brand name you have already lost. Any big name website plays by a VERY different set of rules. It's really fucking corrupt the way google works, but those sites don't stay popular because they're good...

This may be over most people's heads, but >http://nenadseo.com/new-seo/
outlines the bullshit legitimate web creators have to deal with. Fuck google, fuck big name websites. /rant

>weight loss
yeah, that can work if you get more specific. Probably a very competitive field.

>own domain
If you have a .blogger or w/e free domain, you will make maybe 20% of what you could with a real domain. If you're serious about making passive income, invest the $5/mo to get a real website.

>>287362
Aah, thanks! Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have picked something as wide like 'gaming news'. Have 40 posts at the moment, no AdSense yet though.

Maybe it's time for me to switch over to another subject. The stuff that you mentioned such as 'watercolour art brushes' etc probably gets more impressions than most people think it does.

I rather not trade clicks and impressions if it isn't necessary, so SEO is pretty important in that case. Thanks for the links about SEO, I'll give them a read!

>>287378
awesome man. Sounds like a plan. My email is above in two posts if you need more specific help.

(I think I gotta get some sleep soon!)

Very interested in blogging not solely for monetary gains but also for pursuing a productive 'hobby' and learning about building shit on the web. Thank you for these threads!

Questions:

1. My desired .com TLD is not available, however .net, .org,... etc. versions are. What role does the domain name and ending play in Google ranking? And do I eventually have to put up with claims by the 'original' owner? Also I heard or read once that .org domains are only used for non-profit stuff, is that correct?

2. When the domain name is German (not a .de domain, just the name) but the content is english, will I experience less traffic? How hard is it to implement language switching on the site? Wouldn't mind to translate my content. Or would it be better then to have two separate sites? I'm located in yurop so multiple AdSense accounts should be no problem.

>>287381
I'll probably mail you in a couple of days. Thanks for the advice and good night!

>>287351
Sounds good, but if it's that specific, how would you find something to post about frequently for a long time?

>>287399
That's the second hard part. After you find the main keyword, you find other related longtail keywords and write posts about that. Honestly, you really only need about 100 posts to do pretty well.

>>287362
> invest the $5/mo to get a real website.

You can come to palringo look for me HAM can hook you up with a free ipage.com domain and hosting for 12 months.

>>288450
>ipage.com
is that a c-panel server? or?

>>288519
whats a c panel?

it has an easy 1 click install stuff like 1 click install wordpress and more. ham

>>290116
Most linux servers run cpanel interfaces. Windows servers suck for wordpress. IIS6 doesn't even support it properly and upgrading to 7 is a bitch with most providers. It probably doesn't matter when you're dealing with sites that only operate as blogs, but I do a lot of heavier things.

That's one of the reasons I recommend someone like bluehost.

How much traffic could I possibly generate by hosting a blogger with direct DL links to chinese cartoons and shit? Seems like it'd generate a bunch of traffic for me.

Also, mTurk is a great place for SEO related work. You can pay peeps pennies on the dollar to search for your site. You can also verify that they actually visited the site by telling them to give you a specific piece of info on the site.

>>290460
Traffic sure, money none.

1, if people are looking for a free item. DL and scans of manga, they they're not going to click ads or buy from you.
2. You're gonna get a c&d letter soon forcing you to stop

>>287267
I have seen a lot of young fucks being to computer illiterate to have an adbloker, just look how well ads work in Android/iOS "apps"

So... Are you telling me that blogging in a daily basis and trading moderately in those groups can get me around $400 bucks a month?
Sounds good enough.
What kind of content should I put in my blog?
I know I can't use copyrighted stuff, but how about writing about old myths and monsters?
Or can I just upload my drawings instead of writing a wall?
I'm new to this, sorry.

>>287382

choose something else,make it .com

>>287382
Get a .com, worst case scenario get a .org. But I'd change your domain till you can get a .com.

>>291112
.com is the standard sadly. I do have one of those new TLD but its more of a novelty. HAM

>>290241
im pretty sure its running debian. It has easy to install scrips with 1 click. I dont use any of them besides wordpress. After you install wordpress you dont need to log in to ipage. I run linux mint myself.

So the goal here is to find a keyword tha generates less then 1000 daily searches, but has as little relevant pages as possible right?

So just a quick try finds a search of "WHATEVER review" at 800 searches, and 9000 results in google. Is this good or bad?

>>287226
How do you get affiliate websites to work? The idea seems a tad confusing.

>>291445
Google Amazon Affiliate, sign up, they explain the rest. You need to have a decent looking website already though.

So I came across this site called skillerzforum.com.
Anybody knows if this is legit?
Or should I just stick to the palringo group?

>>291654
palringo isn't even legit m8

if you do shady things in the system Google will just ban you from adsense

>>291411
...but not just any keyword find the desperate money keywords, the keywords people type on google when they want to buy something right now!

"buy keyword
keyword coupon
keyword cheapest price
get keyword with free shipping
etc."

I don't feel those who are searching for reviews are necessary looking to buy something right now. They're more cautious about what they spend their money on and therefore are reading reviews first.

>>291654
>skillerzforum.com
what is this? a click group also? been looking for other groups but cant find any. Its always good to have diversity but so far palringo is the best. HAM

>>291660
So, you have no idea what you're talking about...? The $600 I made last month was imaginary? It's weird because all of the clicks came from palringo.

>>290663
$400 is so-so, really. If you do it every day, there's no reason why you shouldn't make closer to 1k per month.

Any content is fine. Writing about myths and monsters would be very unique, and uploading drawings along with the writing would be best. :)

Come to our group. I am MrPink.

>>291654
>skillerzforum.com
Looks pretty bad. I wouldn't go there.

>>291411
>1000 daily searches
1000 daily searches is a whole lot. You're not going to find something not already saturated at that level. Shoot for like, 10,000 - 3000 a month

How do you guys avoid getting banned? Google does not seem to revoke bans even for legit, big bloggers.

>>292775

For what I understand so far:

You will get banned. Even if you don't trade.
If you're not in burgerclapistan or britbongistan, you can just make another account and another blog and keep earning money from adsense.
You can always turn to another alternative like adbrite or yahoo ads.

>>292789
So you only got one shot if you're from the US? It seems so easy that there is no reason not to try it anyways.

>>292775
>big legit bloggers banned

Like who?

>>292800

Yeah, but I think that you also have to keep your CTR low, like not above 4% so you don't get insta-banned.
I enjoy writing so I'm gonna try it, I'm not sure about how many blog posts should I have before joining the exchange groups, so I'm just gonna do one per day for a week.
Worst case scenario I'll waste a few hours that I was going to use for writing and sleeping anyways.

>>292803
Jef Poskanzer. See http://www.seroundtable.com/google-adsense-ban-14659.html

>>292816
Update: February 6, I now see Google AdSense ads on the site again. I guess they were reinstated.

>>292817
I just don't like that you can get banned so easily and that they deny appeals so quickly. He had enough people to generate a outcry after he was banned to get reinstated. What hope is there for the little guy?

>>279782
>make script that takes random topics from 4chan and repost them to my blog
>make script that uses a small botnet of 2k pcs to view my ads
>all of the sudden get about half a million pages per day
>instaban after a week
>call google still haven't replied to me
godamn

>>292825
>from 0 to 500k traffic

Yeah.... you kinda did that to yourself.

Or are you saying you don;t know where that 500k traffic came from?

>>292825
>>292836
i wanna know where that 500k traffic came from too.

i have a question though. say your blog is fairly unpopular and no one knows about it. then there's an upsurge of traffic due to a controversial post or something, literally going from 10 views per day to 100,000, and increasing your earnings. Would Google ban your adsense?

>>292963
They can see where traffic is flowing from. If there is a large number of sites/news/blogs baclinking to the page then the traffic makes sense.

>>287226

mail doesnt work.....

>>292825
Well you're an idiot. Google is not going to undo your ban.
>>292963
If you're using google ads, there is no reason to be using google analytics. You can check your traffic there. Not like it matters now though.

>>293015
>>287226

Whoops I'm an idiot. Second time I've done that.
annahessy@outlook.com

>>279859
very sound advicse

So I recently got my site up and running, but I am still not satisfied with its overall look. I am using one of those "meh" free wordpress themes. I thinking about switching to a premium wordpress theme, but I am still not too fond of the idea of spending 60$ with a theme. There is some risk in spending that money and especially when they almost never provide decent preview pics at themeforest.

So I has thinking about the following:
What could be the long term consequences of uploading and using an illegally downloaded theme?

What would happen if I was found out? Is it possible for the developers to "sniff" the web in search of websites using their themes without paying?

Could I "mask" my illegal usage of the theme by customizing it to the point of irrecognition?

>>284618
About tree fiddy.

>>293560
neatttt

>>294699
One of the downsides of using an illegal theme is malicious code. Sometime theme spreaders put one of those base encode blocks. Sometimes they just put an unremovable link at the bottom. Sometimes their shit takes over your entire server. Once I had to spend a week to repair all the sites on my server due to a bad theme. From now on I only use themes shared on blackhatworld, where there are virustotal analysis provided, and a lot of users try it before I do.

But the chance of getting "found out" for using an illegal theme is slim to non-existant. And in the unlikely event that you do receive an angry email, just switch theme.

anyone recommend a good host for a wordpress blog?

>>296069
the free one from the guy in palringo.

>>294731

/o/ pls

I'm kind of interested in starting a blog about something I think could be really lucrative, but first in the meanwhile...

Are Canadians considered a t1 country as far as exchanging traffic goes? I would think so.

dont join that palringo group, its full of a bunch of shitty kikes, you wont make money, dont waste your time.

>>296974

Okay, care to share why?

>>296201
All first world country are T1. Its all about the buy power. Ads pay more in places were people can afford stuff to buy. HAM