/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>27983152
how much space do you need to raise these fuckers? I feel like each one needs like 5 acres or something. they need to run around and to ostrich stuff

>>27983152
In 10 years time I will have an army...yes....my ostriches will take over the world

>>27983204
The birds are social and congregate together. You would need no more than 15 acres and a shady shelter for 50 birds to graze and run around on.

>>27983384
how do you slaughter them/inspect them/collect eggs without them gouging your eyes out? tranq gun?

>>27983152
I will be doing that after I feel I got a comfy enough Apollo Protocol bag

Can I feed them the shrimp that I've been harvesting indoors for the last few years?

At the low end a 10 month old ostrich is worth $1260 in meat alone (90kg at $14/kg)
The feathers and leather is worth quite a bit also

>>27983383
ausfag here, you have been warned

>>27983440
hedge trimmers

>>27983440
Domesticated Ostriches are friendly to people, they don't interacting with people.
A tranq gun wont work on their hide, their exposed areas are too difficult to shoot so you would sedate their food if necessary.

If any of them get out of line though

>>27983152
Market isn't big enough you need food supply chains and consumers to get on board.

>>27983204
Not a lot from what I've seen, a couple of acres is the norm I think.

>>27983724
just sell it as poultry

>>27983724
Finding a market for your area will be dependent on your location. Ideally you'd sell in an area with demand for exotic meats, avoid the licensing of selling meat yourself and sell to wholesellers that service restaurants and markets that stock exotic meat themselves.
Nickyusa on the west coast and Blackwing and Exoticmeatmarkets elsewhere (in the US).
The market is big enough and the product in demand that a modest farm can provide the much needed supply to the specialty outlets.
And as mentioned throughout the thread other goods like feathers, leathers and oils can be collected for other less-perishable commodities.

>>27983882
Ostrich is actually a red meat

>>27983383
>my ostriches will take over the world

>>27983635
Ostriches eat the same roughage cows eat at about a 1:10 feed to weight ratio for a fully grown adult. The chicks and juveniles eat more at a 1:2 then 1:5 rate as they grow but an adult only needs the 1:10 for maintenance.
The longevity of the birds is important because they can live over 20 years in domestication.

>>27983152
Some of us live in the North, you know

>>27984461
Ostriches are native to warm climates but are resilient to cold

>>27983699
so you actually have researched this extensively.... do you own an ostrich farm?

>>27984690
No I don't but I've visited many and volunteered many hours on ranches in the west coast trying to learn all I could about the business.
Also I really like Ostriches.

>>27984595
Kek

>>27984959
they're real fucking dinosaurs!

>>27984595
i choose to believe that this is real

quality thread, have a bump

>>27984959
the jew fears the ostrich tycoon

>>27984959
you are going to make it

go with emus instead

>>27983152
>Ostriches
This is the type of post what really makes this board. Fuck pajeets, farmerbros gmi

>>27985196
tanku fren
>>27985381
and tanku, owning the ranch will be making it for me
>>27985245
Just don't try to raise them indoors. (their little legs need space to run)
>>27985113
It's real to me, isn't that what really matters?

>>27985483
> ostrichlet
ngmi

>>27983152
the meat has a very strong and spicy taste
only a few customers would like it.

>ostrich egg is a single cell

wtf

>>27985635
I believe strongly in the power of culture in a delicacy. It will have to be as endemic to the land as the people or the music but I do believe these birds can become a beloved American stable.
It worked for Alligators anyway.
>>27985483
I.. I like Ostriches more, I don't know what to say

>>27985889
>>27985566
they're really nice though

>>27983642
You could never handle ostriches, don’t pretend to understand these creatures because of your failures with their dwarfed island cousins.

>>27984595
is this real?

>>27983152
They remind me of the Moa, the superior bird. Fucking Maori.

finally a thread I can relate to

And what happens when there's a saturated market of ostrich meat?
t.future ostrich nz farmer

>>27985981
Maybe I'll add a few just because of you anon. I visited a ranch where the owners raised both and they get along if they're raised together.

Wonderful thread OP

>>27985483
>Not farming cassowaries
Confirmed shit farmer

>>27984282
>OH N-

>>27983440
With a shotgun

>>27983204
It's not like you need to raise them free range. Just get a bunch of cages and raise them like chickens.

>>27983152
>"The positive environmental impact that we could achieve if consumers traded ostrich for just a portion of their beef purchases is incredible. Ostrich is the only red meat with the potential for commercial production at scale in a way that is sustainable for the environment. It requires far less water, land, and feed than other red meat animals and produces a mere fraction of the greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions—a shocking fact that consumers are not aware of, but hopefully soon will be."

Hmm... yes...

>>27986247
Price goes down, production must upscale. If it's ever the case that I'm out-produced from my humble ranch I'd sell off all the birds I couldn't maintain economically and hopefully retire. I'd keep some birds though, because I adore them.
>>27986269
tanku fren you're wonderful
>>27986335
Embarrassingly, I don't know anything about cassowaries.

>>27986690

Looks good anon. Best of luck to you and the birdies

>Alex compares ostrich meat to American bison meat, which years ago was treated with the same kind of trepidation. But a unique challenge that faces ostriches is that they aren’t native to this country. “Because ostriches come from Sub-Saharan Africa, we don’t think ostrich is food—we think of it as a zoo pet, or something curious.” He wants to get people to just try it once: “Once you’ve had it, it’s really easy to understand, and next comes consumer adoption.”
Between Wakanda and moves to get blacks into farming, this sounds like a great opportunity to get ostrich meat on the market. It's the traditional meal of the proud African kings, AND it reduces methane pollution.

>>27987042
pitch it at the next board meeting. I'm in.

>>27986884
tanku fren, that little mspaint was my business plan I pitched to a few friends almost 2 years ago. It's silly how outdated my knowledge was back then but I grew even more enthusiastic about the project as time went on.
Thanks to crypto I've got almost 150k to invest, I hope to gain more and begin seriously next year.

>>27987163
is there an updated version?

Apparently ostriches dislike fluctuations in weather patterns. Welp I'll guess goats or another animal might suit my paddock better

>>27984282
Ohnononono
We got to cocky ostrichbros.

>>27986264

>>27987234
lol fortunately I was able to convince them so no. I should probably get around to it.
I guess aside from a lot of the prices and location specific things I'd add corn and silage to the list. Buying bags of feed? lol. And WBG was not acceptable nutritionally to feed my birbs

>Get convinced that mutant fucking salmon was a good investment by /smg/
>Now ostrich is being shilled

/biz/ never fails to amaze me

>>27987658
I'm going to start a /biz/ zoo of failed animal farming ventures

>>27987594
A farmer near me, around 15 years ago? had ostriches in western europe in a climate with up to -15-20° in the winter.
No idea how he did that.

>>27987741
Must've had the indoor spacing for his birds, it gets below freezing in Idaho, ranches there have heated shelters. People really underestimate these birds, they can tough out the cold. And they don't need a lot of space to meander. I'd just be worried about yearlings being too cooped up to work their legs if they have to winter over.

>>27985245
Based

>>27983152
Can they survive frost?

>>27986690
Can I give you a 150k to start the farm for me and afterwards you can run it as long as you like for me and I will take 30% of profits annually.
Once my original 150k is paid back it’s all yours for 15% a year for 10 years then it’s all yours and I’m out.

I used to go to the ostrich festival in Chandler AZ every year when I was a kid. Ostrich burgers are pretty good and ostrich racing is funny af

>>27983204
Forgot to mention. I have it saved somewhere but I can't seem to find it. There's a study concerning the habits of Ostriches in captivity.
Even when fed Ostriches like to peck the ground and eat a little dirt like 50% of their standing hours. Alone, if it's in a group it's about 65% with the extra percentages dedicated to patrolling and vigilance (standing upright, neck outstretched and scanning horizon) 15-20% of the time.
Ostriches will dedicate more time to "vigilance" activity the fewer birds there are in a group.
What this essentially means is that they like to meander in a group, peck the ground and take turns looking for threats.
Even when they feed they only dedicate 5% of their actual waking hours to eat from a food source that wasn't foraged.

>>27988531
I saw bored ostriches in a zoo once. They had pecked all their feathers out.

>>27988438
I appreciate the shark tank offering but I'm not immensely concerned about capital. I have savings and my friends are joining me in this crazy venture. I'll gladly provide chicks and yearlings at a fair price when I'm established.
In fact, I'll give bizfags a discount if you give me the secret word "pickle finance". Good luck anon.

>>27988764
Easy indicator that the birds aren't getting enough calcium in their diet.
But like, they also just peck each other.

>>27988815
Great. I love farmers. It’s god’s work. One day I hope to invest or start my own.

Thank you

>>27988985
When you make it take some time off to visit the farms maybe volunteer to help. I learned so much and had an amazing time

>>27984595
Wtf is this real

>>27983152
First we had maggot farmer then Maine goat herder and now Ostrich ranger?

>>27990521
don't forget the shrimp farmers!

>>27990521
it's all honest work anon

>>27991215
yeah but it all stinks.

>>27983724
>High protein, low fat, high welfare local meat!

I can see it selling, I've seen a food van selling ostrich burgers before, they were pretty good.

>>27991452
What do they taste like

>>27991640
Like chicken most likely

>>27983152
You'll barely break even with 50 birds. After the insurance, licenses, infrastructure, feed costs, finding a buyer...yeah it's not great. The only way these ostrich farms work is if you have 150-300 birds. The feed cost alone will be 10k a month for 200 of them

>>27985483
they be too dangerous and sheeit they won a war!!

>>27983383
Can you tie them to a sled?

>>27983152
RBC stole our ostrich farm

>>27991821
theres no exotic animal licenses needed for ostriches in most states. What licenses?

>ostrich meat has the same feed-to-meat ratio as a chicken but it's the size of a cow
>red meat makes it an appealing alternative to beef
>this makes it an environmentally friendly alternative to red meat
>ostrich leather can be sold to fashiom companies
>ostrich eyes can be sold to optometrists and researchers
>ostrich feathers can be sold to the auto industry for the painting portion of the manufacturing process
this is supposed to be a secret faggot stop telling everyone

>>27983152
Emu's are easier to deal with, and emu steaks are like beef fillet with 100x the flavour.
sadly only Pajeets seem to farm it at any level of note.

>>27983152
Because im not a fucking ostrich farmer

>had ostrich sausages on thursday
>they tasted great, kinda beefy
Based

>>27983152
how much does it cost to buy a female and a male and what is the potential retail value of an adult ostrich
do butchers charge extra to cut these fuckers up?

>>27991791
>-
naa, depends on which part of them. But most comparable to good beef

>>27983152
Are these even good for an indoor ranch?

>>27983204
>they need to run around and to ostrich stuff
Fuck you I laughed

Birds bad,l. Big birfds badder.

>>27991821
I'd like to maintain 50 birds at least until I've streamlined operations. I've got limited experience volunteering on others' ranches but if you've got advice you think is useful I'd love to hear it.
>>27991902
I... I don't know.
>>27992503
Sorry
>>27992592
You could be
>>27992768
ur based
>>27992790
Chicks can be bought for as little as $300 if you want to go that route. Similar to how cows are priced 'on the hoof' and as hanging weight you can expect to subtract some weight from the bird for your total $ per #. Though with an Ostrich there's much more hanging weight even after the gut is removed. Can't remember precisely the rate but much higher than beef as far as usable meat to weight.

>weighs the cost against the enjoyment of goofing on my redneck neighbors

How do they get along with other animals?

about 6 years ago i was looking into becoming an ostrich rancher too. had to drop the idea, but in another 6 years i'll be able to buy some land and fully expect to be able to buy a few to get started.
i hope the best for you and maybe even to see you at some autist/ostrich rancher get together.

and if i say "pickle finance" while placing my order and the person on the other end has no clue what i'm talking about i'm gonna beat your ass.

How often do they escape?

>>27994044
imagine having to catch your ostrichs again after they escaped. Based

jesus fucking christ does anyone want to go in on an ostrich operation in so cal? I have been checking out land already near the mexican border so I can bang hookers but I didn't actually know what to do with the land

>>27984595
Yo how could they teach them?

The Jew fears the indoor ostrich farmer

>>27988147
set up bitcoin mining rigs throughout the ostriches' range. they can run around in the cold and gather near the rigs for warmth.

>>27986524
im calling PETA

>>27986690
a pole barn like that (no concrete foundation) is like 150k if you just build it yourself and buy the wholesale raw materials

>>27992503
dude on left look like he about to nut

>>27995261
I fucking love this thread.

Wasn't there an ostrich farm bubble in the 90s?

>>27988531
They sound exactly like gigantic chickens
Chickens kind of have "watchdog chickens", depending upon how many are grouped up

>>27983640
Huh, I wonder what the profit margin is with the cost of their food.
would be even better if you could sell them alive to a local butcher, easier than butchering them yourself if you already have a job.

Remember that ostrich farmers ate shit before and will eat shit again.
https://www.producer.com/opinion/ostrich-bubble-bursts-dont-expect-quick-riches/

Fucking newfags op is just offloading on you. He's a bagholding pajeet with 90 ostriches and no demand. Farm prawns in your bathroom instead

>>27995770
wait, an ostrich bubble? this animal becomes more and more /ourbird/. but that was 1997, time for a new ostrich market cycle.

I want to try ostrich sometime. If it's anything like duck I'm all over it. Duck is like a retarded smaller chicken that can't lay eggs right and tries to hide them. But their meat and eggs are way tastier than chicken. An ostrich is more economical because they are so big they can't hide or get away from you.

Best thread in weeks anon, have a bump and good luck with this ostrich venture. I want updates.

>>27996301
>Duck is like a retarded smaller chicken that can't lay eggs right and tries to hide them.
fucking kek

Based OP. Sadly I'm looking into ducks instead but I wish you the best.

this is one of the best threads on /biz/ in a long time. a nice break from fud and wojacks

>>27984243
Does it taste like steak?

Based thread OP. Good luck with your farm. I'll come visit it someday

You can make an omelet out of ONE egg

I'd try ostrich for sure
Also OP I hope you'd treat these big borbs nicely and make sure they're living a nice happy life. Factory farming is pretty fucked up so don't let profit margin seeking drive you that way

Also maybe consider land in Texas, New Mexico, or Oklahoma or something for a better climate? Good luck

>>27983152
Hey, here's a timeline if you play it right
Year : No of Ostriches
___0 : 1
___1 : 50
___2 : 2'500
___3 : 125'000
___4 : 6'250'000
___5 : 312'500'000
___6 : 15'625'000'000
___7 : 781'250'000'000
___8 : 39'062'500'000'000 - that's almost 40 trillion ostriches

In 8 fucking years you get 40 trillion ostriches just by letting them fuck.

If you simply train them to so much as flap their wins in unison, our entire galaxy is obliterated!

8 FUCKING YEARS, THING ABOUT IT

WHERE WERE YOU 8 YEARS AGO AND WHERE ARE YOU NOW? EXACTLY. INVEST IN OSTRICH BREEDING AND YOU'LL KNOW EXACLTY THE FUCK WHERE YOU ARE

BRB STARTING AN OSTRICHCOIN FOR THE EARLY ADOPTERS