/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>27980081
What purpose does 0xmr solve that Monero originally did not? I've been playing around mining XMR on Apple M1 devices (incredibly efficient, 2500 H/s @ 20W, zero impact to usability at 100% usage).

>>27980081
it's nonsense, garbage
it has no connection to privacy whatsoever
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>27980335
1. Wallets are buggy and not user friendly.
2. Fake branded wallets that steal funds.
3. Users have to install wallets on Linux using a command line because Windows
marks them as malware.
4. A complicated command line interface is required to access all privacy features.
5. Wallets cannot successfully sync to the blockchain.
6. Official desktop wallet has been infected with malware.
7. Mobile wallets and light clients may connect to malicious nodes and transactions
may not be validated.
8. The majority of nodes are malicious and leak user’s IP addresses.
9. Blockchain suffered several hacks, including a bug that allowed infinite coin
minting.
10. Transactions are tracked by governments and Ciphertrace (patented).
11. Official website has been infected with malware.
12. The majority of hashrate is contributed by cryptojacker malware and bots.
13. The majority of hashrate is in one pool that can double spend and bring the entire
blockchain down at any time.
14. The blockchain cannot be audited to see if there were additional coins minted or
double spends.
15. Original devs have left to other projects, one dev contributes the majority of code
and instead of working on fixing the node and wallet issues, is focused on atomic
swaps.
16. Inflationary with an infinite supply.
17. Banned in most first world countries
18. Delisted from major exchanges.
19. Mining software has viruses inside.
20. Most dark markets do not use Monero, they use Bitcoin.
21. No smart contract functionality.
22. Slow transactions.
23. Blocks cannot scale to be used as a real currency.
24. Larger cap cryptos are launching privacy functionality (Etherum/0xMR) thereby
eliminating the need for Monero.

>>27980335
0xMonero’s founders were Monero miners and investors but they discovered some issues
with that blockchain and created 0xMonero as an "Upgrade to Monero".

>>27980458
>3. Users have to install wallets on Linux using a command line because Windows
marks them as malware.
>using a miner that doesn't seem to run on Linux/Mac OS and only runs on Windows

>using sha3 algo instead one that's GPU/ASIC resistant

This is about as close to Monero as hot dogs are to canine meat. This might as well be some pajeet ETH without contracts

>>27980514
no one can make an argument that 0xmonero is any kind of upgrade for monero
0xmonero has no privacy features of any kind
this has been pointed out to them hundreds of times but they persist in lying about it

>>27980400
This is a 0xBitcoin discord member. His group spams every social media post mentioning 0xMonero because they the few remaining investors in 0xBitcoin moved to 0xMonero. In fact, several members of the 0xBitcoin community were involved in the founding of 0xMonero due to 0xBitcoin's toxic community and lack of development over the last three years. I would argue that 0xBitcoin is in fact a dead project.

>>27980609
This is a 0xBitcoin shill IP hopping. All of his claims were refuted in the exact link he keeps spamming.

0xMonero solves a most of the issues present in Monero and can be considered a
technological upgrade:
1. Easy to use wallets.
2. Easy mining on a Windows PC.
3. Scalable to 20k+ TPS on L2 and faster with ETH 2.0 sharding.
4. Secured by Ethereum’s hashrate.
5. Fairly mineable.
6. Limited token supply.
7. Built in coinmixing.
8. Compatible with all Ethereum Dapps, DEXs, and exchanges.
9. Part of the 250k strong Ethereum developer community.
10. Smart contract functionality.
11. Bridges to other blockchains.
12. Cannot be banned or delisted.
The choice is simple, the future of privacy is on Ethereum, it’s 0xMonero.

>>27980712
>>27980763
you are completely delusional
at this point i believe you are more or less incapable of telling the truth about anything
the way you keep pushing this worthless project makes me think you are the stupidest person on earth

>>27980888
This is the same guy spamming every thread, he can't argue any technical points so he resorts to slander.. like clockwork.

>>27980869
BTFO stinky pajeet. Nobody wants your shitcoin that has $775 worth of volume. Fuck right off

>>27980888
If you had bought 0xMonero when it came out instead of attacking the project you could have made an easy 5x. If you spent your time promoting 0xBitcoin and building that community instead of attacking other projects your shitcoin might not be dead right now.

>>27980081
what the fuck is oxmr

>>27980947
you are the one who can't argue any technical points
i have been hammering on the technical nonexistence of 0xmonero for 6 months
you're never able to point to any existing code that you wrote
you have no coders
you have no ideas
you have no project
you just lie
you don't lie well
you just lie frequently
that is 0xmonero: frequent lying

>>27980458
Monero actually has some weaknesses (like every crypto). but your superficial research (some of that is literal FUD) covers none of them.

>>27981016
The team is based in Europe FYI. do some actual research before you sling mud.

>>27981088
You don’t even have half an eth in volume you make me sick you fucking loser

>>27981088
What team?

Just bought 100k€ worth of Monero. With the coming crypto regulation FUD I believe XMR will do an easy 10x.

>>27981070
As explained, the team consists of 11 members who also run other projects and platforms, including casinos, CEX, DEX etc. Team members are anonymous but if you look at 0xMonero's integrations you will find what I am talking about. Your claim is absolutely debunked.

Once again you ignore all my previous points and resort to slander.

Why you mates wanna lot’s of cash from /biz/?

Go taste some cats and shit in your fucking river
Stop shilling on this thread with your fucking rubbish

I’ve already participated in bot ocean and wait for full trading system release with bots

>>27981084
You haven't made any argument.

>>27981415
Neither did you. Most of your stated benefits apply to literally any ETH token.

>>27981132
>>27981368
This is a third world investor mentality. You invest based on usecase, not on marketcap. If you want to make money in crypto you need to invest in microcaps like 0xMonero before they moon. High marketcap now does not indicate how well a project will do in the future.

>>27981366
>As explained, the team consists of 11 members
bullshit
i've been a coder for 20 years
i've never seen any sign of anyone competent associated with 0xmonero
i've been substantively shitting on the project for 6 months and nobody competent ever comes to defend it
it's almost as if ... these 11 alleged coders do not actually exist
it's almost as if ... you're lying
it's almost as if ... you have to plagiarize everything because you have no technical competence

>>27981415
Also you really should buy XMR. Real anonymity will be in very hot demand soon once plebs find out the van be tracked.

>>27981366
>team members are anonymous

kek

vishnu, pradeep, santosh, srikanth

>>27981474
That's actually true but misleading. 0xMonero has stated since it's inception that the 0xMonero contract does have some privacy features but the 1st layer privacy contract would be released and a token swap or wrapper would be made available.

You play dumb every debate, raise the same points and then get thoroughly btfo. It's entertaining actually and I hope you keep it up. Every time you respond it gives me the opportunity to describe different aspects of the project and bumps the thread.

>>27981597
Shill has just identified himself as the self proclaimed dev of 0xBitcoin known as 0xBrian. He says he is a coder yet spends all of his time slandering other projects on social media. It's more likely he is unemployed because he obviously isn't spending any of his time doing productive tasks.

>>27981787
>0xMonero has stated since it's inception that the 0xMonero contract does have some privacy features
the "0xmonero contract" is the 0xbitcoin contract with a few things changed
proof, the full diff: https://i.imgur.com/c5cf0MJ.png
privacy was not a consideration of 0xbitcoin
so, name the privacy features present in "the 0xmonero contract"
refer to specific line numbers

>>27981769
I'm curious at what IQ level does it make sense for an anonymous project to have public devs? You know that if you have public devs discord trannies will attack them to manipulate the price and the government can target devs and take down the project.

>>27981885
If you spent time actually researching the project instead of slinging mud you would find the information you seek in the whitepaper.

Some features employed by 0xMonero to obfuscate transactions are:
• Mining- Mine to a clean wallet with no transaction history.
• zk-SNARKs- A zkERC20 token standard wrapper will be available for 0xMR in
2021. Users can currently wrap 0xMR with zk-SNARKs using the incognito mobile
wallet.
• L2- You can currently transact privately and with 0 gas fees with pillar wallet and
CCTIP. 0xMR is integrating with multiple L2 scaling platforms and wallets. These
platforms allow private off-chain transactions at speeds of up to 20k TPS and
bridges to other EVM chains.
• ChainHop- A strategy employed to allow users to move their 0xMR between
blockchains. Users can currently interact with xDAI Chain, Syscoin, and incognito
Chain. TRON, TOMO, and Avalanche integration are planned.
• 0xMixer- The 0xMonero team’s in-house privacy solution (under development).
• Trade- You can trade privately on pDEX and pUniswap using the incognito mobile
wallet or lightshadowbox Chrome browser extension.

>>27982054
blah blah blah blah blah
everything you are referring to is either
- nonexistent (in your imagination only)
- existent but written by someone else
"chainhop", "0xmixer", these are vaporware products you've been claiming since the beginning of the project
somehow with 11 devs, all of them are still total vaporware
there's no indication any work has been done on any of them
your shit is fake
you don't even make up convincing lies
you just lie frequently
anyone competent who looks at your so-called project sees there's nothing to it in 5 minutes

>>27981787
>0xMonero has stated since it's inception that the 0xMonero contract does have some privacy features
still waiting for the specifics on this you dirty son of a shitfuck

MONERO PLEASE GOD NOOOOOOOO~~~

monero-badcaca. net/

>>27982536
fwiw that supposed leaked data looks bogus to me
looks fabricated/generated
now, why would anyone want to set up a page to fud some privacy crypto that works so well that the darknet markets are switching to it?
i leave it to you

>>27982179
You repeat the same points over an over and when they are responded to you resort to slander. My time is valuable. Unlike you, I don't have all day to spend attacking other projects.

I could easily do the same thing as you, attack every 0xBitcoin post on social media and tell the world how much of a scam your project is. I've seen your discord here claiming it's actually the "real Bitcoin" on Ethereum. I've seen your discord pump and dump 0xBitcoin on naïve investors from prices up to nearly 5 usd and to a low of about .04 usd. I've seen how insiders mined your project with FPGAs and shilled fair mining to an unsuspecting community. I've seen your fake wash trading volume on Mercatox. In fact 0xBitcoin development actually stopped three years ago, devs moved on to found other projects like Vether. I'm willing to bet the only reason you are still around is because you are one of the larger FPGA miners looking to dump on new victims during the next bullrun.

You and your toxic community attack every other mineable token on Ethereum. If you had expended the same amount of effort on building your project you might have had a chance of being successful.

>>27982632
It is better than Bitcoin when it comes to privacy, but is it the best and with no possible exploits? We will see fren

>>27982662
i repeat the same perfectly obvious points
and you can never refute them
please, come try to slander 0xbitcoin
try to back up your claims with evidence
you're going to have a hard time doing that because your claims are bullshit
so the real reason you don't do what you say is that on some level you know nobody is going to believe you
you are a ridiculous little dumbshit and a pathological liar
i am going to teach you that lying does not work
you, yes, even you, the stupidest person on earth, will learn that lying sucks

>>27982632
The Monero team have verified that their nodes are compromised.

>>27982632
0xmonero is a useless shitcoin otherwise though lol

>>27981065
A Pajeet scam

>>27982479
I have explained this to you numerous times. I refer the reader to the 0xMonero whitepaper which clearly describes the privacy features inherent in account based and mineable cryptos. As stated previously, and I'm beginning to realize you have a reading comprehension issue, 0xMR is the mining contract for fair distribution of 0xMonero, it is not the final contract.

>>27982789
>>27982834
i definitely do not claim that monero is perfect
i just say that its claims to being private are very strong
whereas 0xmonero has no such claim
0xmonero has no connection to privacy whatsoever
the main idiot mother fucker is right here in this thread and he is unable to point to a single line of code in the contract related to privacy

>>27982908
>it is not the final contract
sure
i'm sure the actual real wonderful contract full of original code will be along any second now
the "11 coders" are probably putting the finishing touches on it right this second, aren't they?
bullshit
all you can do is lie

>>27982917
agree with you, for those that depend on the privacy features of Monero, I wish them the best and that it is enough

>>27982917
As stated, the whitepaper outlines 0xMonero's privacy features and describes Monero's flaws and even cites evidence that it can be tracked.

>>27980081
Fuck off pajeet.

>>27982995
When someone is making an argument and resorts to slander, that means they don't really have a valid argument.

>>27983020
>the whitepaper outlines 0xMonero's privacy features
who cares?
where is the *code*???
computers run on actual implemented software
where is the code that supposedly implements privacy???
there is some, but you didn't write it
and it works with any erc20
what is your contribution? what did you make? what value did you create?
none
you are a noisemaker
a liar
a thief who steals by deceiving people

>>27982908
Stop shilling this pajeet scam. No one here is going to purchase this crap. Try RBC threads.

>>27982995
You were previously informed that if you or anyone else wants to talk directly with the devs you can contact them directly on the 0xMonero Telegram. Team members are not going to chase you around the internet responding to your spam. No legitimate project responds to trolls that way. If you have something to say, go talk to the devs directly.

>>27983117
The thief argument again eh? That's rich coming from 0xBitcoin, a project that actually claims to be the "real Bitcoin" on Ethereum. 0xMonero never made claims of being "the real Monero", it's only an upgrade to Monero on Ethereum. It solves a lot of the problems inherent in Monero like:

Limited supply
Fairly mineable
Cannot be banned
Cannot be blacklisted
Easy to use
Works with the Ethereum ecosystem...

>>27983179
>you can contact them directly on the 0xMonero Telegram.
bullshit
like i said, i've been coding for 20 years
i am very familiar with programmers and how they communicate
it is not the case that 11 coders have been hiding on telegram, unwilling to communicate via any other method, while some dude gaybashed the project for 6 months nonstop
that does not happen
if those coders existed, they would have said something
if they were competent and offered plausible defenses, i would have dropped it months ago
but they didn't
because they don't exist
there is no defense for what you're doing

>>27983117
To this day I can't believe you are still making this argument, it's the most laughable by far.

No one has to ask anyone for permission to make an ERC20. Ethereum is open source software. There are a dozen mineable ERC20 tokens.

The main issue with 0xBitcoin is that the devs decided they would mint a contract and that's all the work they had to do, that's all they had to build forever. This is one of the major reasons why that project failed, the 0xBitcoin team fails to realize that projects are more than a simple contract. For a token to have value, it need to have real world business use cases and a legitimate community behind it. Mining in itself does not give a token value.

>>27983316
You're discord slandered 0xMonero on social media, that's about it. That's not something to be proud of really, we should be working together to build the ecosystem. I think nature will take it's course though, nobody wants to be a part of a dead project and toxic community.

>>27983612
you don't understand open source
you can't write code
that's why you always have to plagiarize code or use code written by others
you can't answer the criticisms about your project
so you constantly try to deflect and change the subject
still waiting for the "some privacy features" that are present in the 0xmonero contract you little turd
not holding my breath though since i know they don't exist

>>27983732
I already clearly refuted your arguments for the reader. Once again, resorting to slander. I think it's time for you to move on with your life.

>>27980458
it is very reassuring to read this whole list and know it's all bullshit. i'm siphoning all my shitcoins into xmr as they pump, cause shit's about to explode upwards

>>27983893
Monero is just an overpriced fork of Bytecoin. There are a 100 cryptonote coins with the same features and cheaper. Monero is highly overvalued, particularly now that it can be tracked.

>>27984075
>laughs in unknown amount of keks

>>27984383
Sorry for your loss

>>27980458
nice fud Ranjeesh. nobody's buying your pajeet defi scamtokens. poo in loo

>>27984075
>26 posts by this id
What time is it in India?

>>27984466
That's rich considering at all times 24/7 there are paid Pajeet Monero posts shitting up this board that specifically cite how to buy Monero and on which exchanges.

>>27984597
you tell me

btw the fud on monero reminds me of the discord faggots like kurt astro that was fudding link in 18. would be a shame if someone took out a hit on this guy's minecraft servers when xmr goes parabolic after atomic swaps go live

>>27984718
Maybe you guys should focus on creating working wallets, removing malicious nodes, and not getting delisted first. Or better yet, upgrade your Monero to 0xMonero for better functionality.

>>27984795
there are so many phd's working on monero all i have to do is sit back and keep buying the dips. btw i'm using the gui wallet in linux appimage and it works like a motherfucking champ

>>27981588
>you should use marketcap to choose investments
>marketcap is not a predictor for the future
I think something is wrong with your post.

>>27984872
0xMonero is compatible with all Ethereum wallets, you don't need to understand how to use Linux for it to work right.

There are an estimated 250k developers building on Ethereum. I'll take those odds any day.

>>27984670
Point to one right now

>>27985034
No, I'm saying that just because a project is in the top 10-50-100 doesn't mean it's a better investment than other projects or more legitimate. You need to look at lower marketcap projects and their use cases if you want to make money. "high marketcap" does not indicate better investment value.

>>27985144
What does it indicate then?

>>27985038
>>27985038
i use linux cause i hate bill gates and used it long before i bought my first xmr. if you are using windows you are using glowinthedark keyloggers and will lose your crypto anyway. might as well put everything in 0xmr since you won't get to enjoy your gains when the glowies atomic swap them into real monero

>>27985142
This is the first time I've seen the board without a Monero thread shitting it up. I suppose the paid shills have the day off. Anyone who visits /biz regularly knows what I'm talking about.

>>27980458
because it's sunday amd I'm bored af:

> 1. Wallets are buggy and not user friendly.
Gui maybe, monerujo & cake are fine.

> 2. Fake branded wallets that steal funds.
TFW your crypto is important enough to attract scames, unlike whatever you shill

> 3. Users have to install wallets on Linux using a command line because Windows marks them as malware.
Works on windows just fine.

> 4. A complicated command line interface is required to access all privacy features.
More features yes, but the privacy is the same for all wallets.

> 5. Wallets cannot successfully sync to the blockchain.
Sybil attack caused some issues, but that's mostly resoleved.

> 6. Official desktop wallet has been infected with malware.
OS detects the included miner as malware.

> 7. Mobile wallets and light clients may connect to malicious nodes and transactions may not be validated.
Malicious nodes are a problem for all cryptos, but monero deals gracefully with it.

> 8. The majority of nodes are malicious and leak user’s IP addresses.
There's no evidence to support that claim. Dandelion++ obfuscates the IP address reasonably well, if more is needed just get a vpn or route over tor.

> 9. Blockchain suffered several hacks, including a bug that allowed infinite coin minting.
Proof needed.

> 10. Transactions are tracked by governments and Ciphertrace (patented).
kek @ ciphertrace. You can patent literally anything as long as it is novel, independed of whether it works or not.

> 11. Official website has been infected with malware.
Proof needed.

> 12. The majority of hashrate is contributed by cryptojacker malware and bots. Might be, but the same might be true for other cryptos. Why would your shitcoin be differnt

> 13. The majority of hashrate is in one pool that can double spend and bring the entire blockchain down at any time.
51% are alot less powerfull than on eg BTC, you can't censor/ block/ attack any specific user.

>>27980081
0xmr is probably a government OP to get everyone away from using XMR

>>27980458
>>27985415
> 14. The blockchain cannot be audited to see if there were additional coins minted or double spends.
Minting is public on the chain, double spend is cryptographically impossible.

> 15. Original devs have left to other projects, one dev contributes the majority of code and instead of working on fixing the node and wallet issues, is focused on atomic swaps.
Different teams work on differnt aspects. Atomic swaps are done by 3 groups, the main group has three developers full time for a year working on it. Wallet is continously improved by other people.

> 16. Inflationary with an infinite supply.
Tail emission causes linear increas in supply and thus a decreasing inflation rate. Get your math straight.

> 17. Banned in most first world countries
Don't call your shithole "first world".

> 18. Delisted from major exchanges.
One tiny exchange delisted it, but likely for economic reasons.

> 19. Mining software has viruses inside.
High processor load is seen as unwanted behavior and reported by av software.

> 20. Most dark markets do not use Monero, they use Bitcoin.
More and more switch to monero.

> 21. No smart contract functionality.
No boatware on-chain is a plus.

> 22. Slow transactions.
2min block time/ 20min until spending is enabled is bad for real world purchases, but sufficient for online shops.

> 23. Blocks cannot scale to be used as a real currency.
Block scaling is build in; fee/reward structure is designed to disincentivise unnecassary large blocks and empty transactions.

> 24. Larger cap cryptos are launching privacy functionality (Etherum/0xMR) thereby eliminating the need for Monero.
0xMR is a shitcoin with a tiny marketcap. Etherium is a bloated mess without any privacy at it's core, the randomX mining algo and much, much more.

>>27985240
The last price it was exchanged at in relation to the circulating supply. If it's traded on a centralized exchange they can make the price and trade volume whatever they like.

>>27985445
0xMonero is a life raft for Monero. All evidence points to Monero being a honeypot.

>>27985243
Linux is better, there is no argument. The point is that mainstream retail investors are using Mac and Windows.

>>27985252
>i always see monero threads therefore there are paid shills
sure ranjeesh, i'll come down to new delhi and buy some 0xMonero off of you! I believe you now! Monero is def a scam!

>>27985764
Anyone can check for themselves, don't lie. You can tell they are shill posts because the first post states how to buy Monero and on which exchange then a lot of third worlders keep the thread bumped with broken English.

>>27985845
>37 posts by this id

>>27985845
>first post states how to buy monero
citation needed. only when some newfag doesn't know how to buy monero is when the buying guide gets posted. kys ranjeesh, nobody is going to buy your 0xMonero bags.

>>27985591
>0xMonero is a life raft for Monero
it makes NO SENSE
because 0xmonero has NO PRIVACY FEATURES

>>27985415
1. lite clients have been synching with malicious nodes. Check Monero Reddit for proof. You cannot use all of Monero's privacy features unless you run a full node and run the CLI. A full node is approximately 100 GB.

2. Confirmed fake wallets.

3. A simple google search verifies Monero wallets are flagged as malware.

4. Semantics, to access all features you need to use a CLI.

5. Confirmed ongoing sybil attacks.

6. Confirmed detected as malware. In addition, the actual wallets, website and miners have been infected with malware on occasion.

7. Murder is a problem in all countries but that doesn't negate the problem. I wouldn't want to live in Nigeria for example and I wouldn't chose to transact with Monero given that nodes are malicious.

8. Evidence suggests malicious nodes are leaking user's IP addresses. Yes, I assume you could resolve that by using a VPN or Tor on top of dandelion but that doesn't solve the problem for all users. This also assumes the malicious nodes decide to accept the transaction to begin with.

9. https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-reports-on-resolving-fake-xmr-minting-bugs-a-month-after-fix
“Most of the vulnerabilities were disclosed few months ago, yet were only now fixed. While Monero developers are doing great work, they cannot guarantee no new coins were minted by deceiving an exchange. If such an attack would occur, it might've taken a long time until the exchange would've noticed it, unless their security mechanisms are advanced enough to scan its cold wallet storage and compare it with account deposits very quickly.”

10. In order to receive a patent you have to create something that usefulness and functionality, ie. it has to work.

11. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1125530-monero-website-hacked-delivering-malware/?tab=comments#comment-13062304

12. Almost all cryptojackers miner Monero because it doesn't require a GPU to mine.

13. Confirmed, one pool controls the majority of the hashrate.

>>27985474

14. I refer you to the proof cited in pt 9.

15. Confirmed.

16. Supply is infinite, confirmed.

17. Confirmed.

18. Recently all Japanese and Korean exchanges as well as Bittrex.

19. Malicious XMR-STAK binary.

20. Confirmed, majority using Bitcoin.

21. Confirmed, no other functionality or usecases.

22. 20 minute transaction delay is not acceptable for a currency. Monero can not scale to be used as a world currency, it can barely handle 5tps.

23. Larger blocks are not a legitimate scaling solution. Think this through, to scale to be a world currency you would centralize nodes to a handfull of Amazon servers powerful enough to handle the blockchain bloat.

24. 0xMonero is low marketcap and has a lot of room for growth. Monero as stated, has a variety of flaws and is highly overvalued. Ethereum is bloated right now but dapps are moving to L2 which will lower gas fees. Uniswap for instance is moving to Optimistic Rollups for V3. This will dramatically reduce gas fees. You can send 0xMR gasless right now on L2 with Pilar wallet. If you read the 0xMonero whitepaper you will find that Account based cryptos are inherently more private by default than UTXO based cryptos like Monero.

>>27986612
>usefulness and functionality
you can get patents for chinese medicine type shit, theres a patent for hands free a gun on a hat. just watch dragons den or shark tank and half of it is shit but its patented. the only requirements really are that its a new invention which can be used in some industry (doesnt need to be used well)

>>27986039
>>27985417

>>27986409
Yes, it does and they were listed previously

>>27985899
unlike the shills on this board, I don't IP hop

>>27987171
>they were listed previously
no they weren't
you never refer to any privacy related code
because there isn't any
you're a lying idiot

>>27987117
https://www.coindesk.com/ciphertrace-monero-cryptocurrency-payments-tracing-dhs

2 patents arising from their work with the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

Does that make you feel safe holding Monero?

>>27987375
>2 patents arising from their work with the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
like others have said, anyone can get a patent on anything
it is not necessary for the patent to demonstrate anything new, or even work at all
darknet markets adopting monero is actually meaningful
patents are not

>>27987367
It was stated that there are a variety of privacy options for 0xMonero holders and those were listed. It was also stated that the 0xMR contract is for fair distribution of 0xMonero and has some privacy features but it is not the final privacy contract. The features inherent in the mining contract that provide privacy are the fact that you can mine to a new wallet with no transaction history and that the token is account based, which means it cannot be blacklisted, delisted, or tracked (if L2, off-chain, dapps, exchanges are used properly).

>>27987509
That's interesting. If the patents don't work, why was Ciphertrace paid by the DHS for their software and services? I guess it's all a conspiracy, right?

>>27980869
>solves problems
>by being an infinitely more shit and less private version of the project it is trying to replicate
>and is an erc token
Nice job. Really

>>27987540
>there are a variety of privacy options for 0xMonero holders
there are. you didn't write any of them
they are available to all erc20s
>the 0xMR contract is for fair distribution of 0xMonero and has some privacy features
you keep saying this over and over
name the features or you're a lying moron
refer to the specific line numbers that implement these supposed features or you're a lying moron
>I guess it's all a conspiracy, right
yes, i believe the wild conspiracy theory that the government may be lying

>>27987773
If I didn't know 0xMonero I would have probably posted the same thing you did but read the previous post.
>>27980869

0xMonero is better than Monero in nearly every measurable attribute.

>>27987820
Your ID spells JEW, now I understand

>>27987820
If an ERC20 is integrated with a privacy platform, it can be used there. Who's fault is it that 0xBitcoin doesn't market their privacy features or integrate with privacy platforms? It's the fault of the absent developers.

Already named here: >>27982054

I don't trust my money on a platform (Monero) where a company that has contracts with the Department of Homeland security and two patents to track Monero transactions is monitoring me. I don't trust a platform with an infinite minting bug, wallets with malware, miner with malware, website with malware, malicious nodes...

>>27988146
you're a fucking idiot
let me make it simpler for you
here is the code
https://etherscan.io/address/0x035df12e0f3ac6671126525f1015e47d79dfeddf#code
refer me to line numbers of code that implement privacy functionality
there are none
that's my point
in other words: 0xmonero has no privacy functionality
when you act as if 0xmonero has anything to do with privacy, you are trying to steal people's money

>>27988375
Privacy features were stated and cited, take your meds.

Why do you compare monero to a Token?

>>27988491
lying bitch
moron
time-waster
noisemaker
i don't know how you can bear to live another day being so dishonest
it must be horrible to not be able to say anything true
universally despised wherever you go
and rightly so

>>27988651
Read the thread, it's not looking good for Monero.

Etherum is a giant scam at this point.

>>27988740
why should anyone take you serious? you are a scammer.