/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>27980205
i know it's a p&d from the name alone lol

>>27980205
based on my calculation it will be 150-220 next year.

>>27980205
HAHAHAHAHA yes keep going! I like this very much.

>>27980205
AVAX solves the cuck problem

>>27980205

>doxxed Cornell professor that has been involved in peer to peer money transactions for decades is going to destroy his reputation with a pnd scam


brilliant, sorry you couldn’t get in at $5

People have accused Emin of being Satoshi and/or the DAO hacker. You don't get a reputation like that by not knowing your shit

>>27980439
this
OP is retarded, the reputation of the team behind this is fucking incredible

>>27980205
If you had used Zero.Exchange in the last two days since its launch you would agree Avalanche has cracked it.

Zero.Exchange has:

- instant settlement
- no front running
- fees costing cents, not hundreds of dollars

Next up, Zero.Exchange add Polkadot to the mix giving seamless trading between:

Ethereum - Avalanche - Polkadot

That’s right, you can trade any asset on these platforms for pennies.

>>27982729
Except zero exchange tokens are completely cut off from the rest of the avalanche ecosystem.

Enjoy the inevitable rug

>>27983285
Don’t turn into a maximalist fag. This shit has no place in Avalanche.

Zero and Pangolin will complement each other. They will both have their strengths; it’s better for AVAX chads to have multiple options than be stuck with a monopoly trading vehicle.

If you don’t do reason, then do money... the ZERO exchange token trades at $0.07 right now. Fair value once token rewards have come to an end in 5 weeks is around $2.50.

There are multiple ways for an AVAX chad to make it.

ZERO is a total scam, a trick to steal people's precious AVAX while also attempting to give a bad name to AVAX. Stay away from that filth!

>>27983494
Good luck. Hope you don't rug. Please don't damage the rep of Avalanche.

>>27982729
Anyone reading this, as previously mentioned - your coins will not be part of the avalanche ecosystem since it's not using the official bridge, be careful and wait until Pangolin is released by avalabs.

Fuck I wish I'd apes in earlier

t. 600 stacklet

>>27983832
How does a team of rock star devs, first to launch a DEX on Avalanche damage anyone?

True, the AVAX devs are pissed that first mover was taken by another team, but it’s all for the greater good.

Revisit your attitude when Pangolin and Zero Exchange are both up and running, interoperating with zero friction.

The future of crypto is AVAX, but your mind set will have to change. You still have tunnel vision, instilled by the limitations we have all lived with in Bitcoin and Ethereum.

>>27983965
> Fuds Avalanche
> Thinks he supports Avalanche

Never change , /biz/

>>27980439
Lmao, this reminds me of Algo fud. Yeah, a Turing prize recipient is gonna go and destroy his reputation on a scamcoin.

>>27983285
Thats... not how it works. You think there can only be on dex bridging between avax and eth? How retarded are you?

>>27982729
I used zero.exchange and the fees were similar to everywhere else, what am I missing?

>>27984020
I think, contrary to some, that ZERO exchange is not an explicit rug pull. What it is is a fork and fairly blatant attempt to front-run the release Pangolin. The token distribution, however, is different. No longer is the vast majority of tokens distributed to the community, as it will be in Pangolin. Instead, the devs (who are anonymous) have sliced off big portions for themselves. There's the rub.

I don't see much harm in letting ZERO operate for a while. But once Pangolin releases, the smart money is moving over to the community-backed option.

>>27984063
you can fud a bad project on the avalanche network without fudding avalanche you moron

>>27984020
> anonymous rock stars

>>27984552
This is what happens in free markets.

But you are exactly right - the complaint isn’t against the legitimacy of Zero Exchange the platform (although that’s the angle), it’s that someone else is making money unexpectedly.

The team are anonymous for now while they serve out their time in other top crypto projects. In a few months we will have two, publicly known, chad dev teams working on their respective DEX. All of this is good for AVAX.

Will this ever go below $15 again? I'm trying to accumulate to 200 AVAX and don't want to buy high. Currently at 85.

>>27984686
The best project on AVAX is a bad project?
Ok, retard.

>>27984006
How does 6 million sound?

>>27984794
I doubt it. You could hold off and take the risk, but I don’t think we will be below $20 for much longer.

>>27984634
The smart money will be using both. Since they are both running on Avalanche they will interoperate without friction. I mean, isn’t that one of the major selling points of AVAX?!

>>27984974
Yes. That's why I don't see much harm in the existence of ZERO. Free markets mean that the coin that distributes more of its supply to its users will most likely receive more usage. We shall see.

>>27984020
>rock star devs
if anybody shilling zero uses this phrase they are a paid shill, every shill post uses this phrase

>>27985165
Emin is also a rock star dev. Does this mean he’s paying me?
Only on biz.

>>27985338
>missing the point entirely

Ahem... so anyone got some more Avalanche FUD?

>>27985550
Your a cockstar fag

>>27985817
you're*

>>27984882
Meh just bought. FOMO is too great.

What’s $1-2 in a year or so anyways. Hopefully this lil nigga does summin.

Been trying to accumulate this shit since December. Currently 140 away from 500, which we hope will be sufficient to run a node soon. I am tempted to risk selling my 3 ETH to get there faster but Im too scared to miss out on those eth gains before it gets completely btfo. What do bros?

>>27986146
in a similar boat but aiming for 1000 at 600

tempted to drop my 3 ETH in, not sure :s

>>27986146
>>27986254
Is running a node worth it though?

Will this shit ever stop going Up lmao

>>27986630
you currently need 2000 to validate a node (though this might change to 500 in the future)

long term its probably worth it, but the fees for delegating (i.e. staking on somebody else's node) are so low (about 2% of rewards at the low end currently) that it's not an urgent issue

long term, if we see huge demand for delegation and insufficient number of validators, market forces would probably drive delegating fees up - in which case you're better off having your own node for sure.

think all it takes is a raspberry pi and a internet connection that is up >60% of the time

>>27984552
ZERo proved they have their minds in the right place by LAUNCHING SHIT and DELIVERING TECHNOLOGICAL EXCELLENCE

after they make the bridge to polkadot and add more traiding pairs, their first mover advantage is SEALED

>>27987282
*sigh* another one. You guys really want to become the most hated players in this space?

Impressive performance. My bet is AVAX will have 95% correction until ICO unlock.

>>27986961
2K AVAX though. That’s like $40K lol. Cant afford that anymore. I’m priced out.

>>27980205
Top tier fud this. They've actually given up trying to find any reasons for fudding other than "the project is too good".

>>27987323
>nothing of substance to say
keep waiting for pangolin and get spat at in return by seeing shit like this from the team:
>https://aeb.xyz/

Zero keeps delivering MEANINGFUL SHIT. the perception that it is a scam makes it SEVERELY UNDERVALUED. after more people see what this shit is about, it will EXPLODE

>>27987556
>the teams name is ZERO
>the devs are anonymous
>the bridge relayer is not trusted/known
>large fraction of tokens reserved for the team
The more you shill the more I'll anti-shill

>>27987556
Maybe they should have worked on the UI. They just haven't and copied it from uniswap. Makes it look like a scam. Anonymous dev team too. They can rug

>>27987689
this. avax is just sketchy as fuck. flavor of the month pump. cardano wannabe

>>27987750
Hey are you following everything that's going on here OK?

>>27987813
no im very lost and confused

Don’t get scammed by zero pajeets. You have been warned. 2017 link holder, 2019 aave and snx holder.

50 cent avax private sale holder

>>27987823
yeah no shit
take your meds grandma

Only have 72 atm, hopefully ADA moons further so I can use it to buy more AVAX

>>27985338
Emin is a cuck

Just delegated my stack for a month, love it

>>27987813
(You) are a cuck

>>27988064
I'm just anon

>>27987480
this lmao. they've been trying to fud this since $5 with muh token unlock although 70% of supply is staking and last token unlock didn't dump the price. the absolute state of pedodots.

>>27988016
lold

>>27987689
Keep it up buddy, the longer you anti-shill, the more we Zero chads will stack.

Smart money understands fudding a legit alpha-tier project improves the risk-reward ten fold or more.

What a time to be alive.

>>27988449
Zero chad is an oxymoron, moron.

>>27988108
I don't need to know your name to know you're a cuck, cuck anon

png finna drop within the next two weeks

zero will be forever btfo

aaaaaaaa when is this going to dip, it just keep going

>>27988637
This is when I know you've given up on defending Zero.exchange, a team of shills so dumb that they can't pull off a simple scam

>>27988745
Two DEX on AVAX is a win-win. I’m surprised more AVAX chads don’t see this, but it is biz, after all.

>>27988777
Checking your trips you cuckold. I bet you enjoy watching your turkroach wife take the KARA BOGA

>>27988777
>calls it a scam
>it works and is pioneering in multiple fields already
>technical prowess proved by works, not words

>>27987750
>cardano wannabe
cardano doesnt work, AVAX works NOW
pangolin doesnt work, ZERO works NOW

it's backed by all the silicon valley big shots, ez hold

So, ZERO is very possibly a scam. Don't listen to the shillhards.

>>27987728
what more do you need from the UI? managed to do all that I needed it to do, and I stake.

they deliver MEANINGFUL SHIT, ui tweaks AREN'T IMPORTANT

DEFINITE LIST OF IMPORTANT SHIT:
1) MORE TRADING PAIRS - unlimited amounts preferably
2) POLKADOT BRIDGE

after this, we set to challenge uniswap

>>27989647
Not impressed. Shill harder.

>>27989730
stop talking gibberish and continue slobbering on my knob

You aren't worth much more given your lack ability to answer shit and prideful, willful arrogance.

I FOMO´d in get ready to go back to 15dollars

>>27980205
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So salty. So poor.

I omly have 100 AVAX bros. Should I bail on DOT and move the rest?

>>27990188
If it comes down it will consolidate at 20 usd.

>>27990278
Depends how much. I also have some Dot and it's a good hedge. If you have more DOT then AVAX, rebalance when this run settles a bit and DOT recovers from the small dip.

It's always good to diversity, regardless of how bullish you are on something. DOT will probably also go up a lot, so just hold.

>>27984831
release the code and we'll stop FUDing zero. oh that's right, you won't. so get fucked.
zero is a scam until proven otherwise

lol, imagine avax revolutionizing defi in front of your eyes
you knew its name
you knew its claim
but didn't get a bag
now you're gonna fomo at 100 avax/usd

Pasting from Redddit (1/2)

>Why AVAX?

Avalanche is considered more of a layer 0 than layer 1 blockchain like Cardano. You can't run blockchains on top of Cardano, only smart contracts. You can run blockchains on top of Avalanche, an infinite amount, each capable of a minimum of 4,500 TPS (On avalanche TPS is CPU bound, so when we say 4500 that is with the crapiest computer you can find in the past 10 years or so - i.e. raspberry pie). If you throw a 24 core CPU at it, it will be 15,000 TPS+++.
Cardano Ouroboros with the Shelley implementation will have 200-260 TPS. That's a massive difference from Avalanche.

Cardano has since also talked about eventually deploying a layer 2 sharding solution called Hydra which will increase that to 1000 TPS per shard. Shelley is not going to be released until at least July 2021 (if it doesn't get delayed yet again). Hydra will thus be much further out - Note ETH2 with Sharding is targeted at 2022-2023!

>>27990531
Avalanche already has massive scalability.. today!
If Avalanche ever needed more scalability it could add layer 2 solutions like Zk-Rollups, or Sharding like ETH2 & Cardano Hydra, at which point TPS would be in the many millions/s !

Oh also, cardano has block times of 20 seconds (15s for ETH). Avalanche has an absolute max of 3s per block, with 90%+ of blocks confirming in sub-1second... WITH finality! (aka can't be reversed). This is the equivalent of 6x 10 min blocks on Bitcoin for example. One major advantage not talked about much is that with sub 1 second finality, DEFI projects can't have flash loan hacks occur. Before you can blink a transaction is confirmed, no time to execute flash loan hacks.

Avalanche is years ahead of Cardano and Ethereum. The closest competitor is Polkadot and even they are inferior technically on almost every count, although they are superior to both Cardano and Ethereum on several factors.

Few understand this: AVAX > DOT > ETH2 > XTZ > ADA > ATOM> ETH> BTC

Conclusion: Avalanche is massively under priced right now. It is still very much under the radar.

>>27989512
> Zero team build the best DEX in crypto
> Thousands of transactions on day 1
> Millions in liquidity on day 1
> Pangolin team howl in indignation
> Biz moves into full fud mode

“I know, guys, let’s pull a scam instead of running with this billion dollar success story we have built”

>>27990490
It’s on their GitHub. Why are you so retarded?

hoooly shit it keeps mooning bros

>>27990640
AVAX and ZERO are both fucking mooning. This is it, lads.

>>27980328
STOP, CANT GET MORE ERECT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>27983811
proof or stfu nigger

>>27990759
>>27990640
It's dumping now

>>27991237
fud

>>27991237
>24h: Up 28%
>1h: up 5%
cope

I follow this twitter account and he's pretty good with his calls.

https://twitter.com/btcbullbro/status/1358394873540411393

>>27990759
PISS OFF ZERO SHILL. AVAX COMMUNITY AND DEVS HATE YOU

tfw bought at 19 and sold at 23 when i saw it start dumping

>>27990531
>>27990564
This is gentleman and a scholar
Hats if to you based sir

>>27992683
The question now is

When do we buy in again?

>>27980205
>he didn't get scammed into millions of dollars from the ICO
>ngmi

>>27992683
>tfw bought at $4 and never selling

>>27992850
Avalanche literally does everything that Bitcoin Cash wish their network did & everything that the Ethereum community wished their network did but all in one platform.

Emin isn't fucking around.

>>27980205
it's a good project but it's flawed. right now the pump is being FED by Paid Shills from Eastern Europe (including Turkey). The shill you see on biz 24x7 is paid for content. People are going to get wreckt

>>27992850
Based turkish coffee pepe poster. I bought at $8 but I'm still unbelievably comfy. I'll have a turkish coffee this morning to celebrate

>>27992943
> the pump is being FED by Paid Shills from Eastern Europe (including Turkey)
Now I've seen it all. Fudders getting desperate

>>27992943
No no anon, you got it all wrong, it's actually the fucking niggery faggoty KIKE cucks in Israel pumping this coin to then later DUMP ON US, DONT YOU SEE ANON WE ARE BEING FUCKING DUPED AHHHH

>>27993306
>he doesn't know about companies in shithole countries that beg crypto projects to hire them to shill/FUD
ngmi

>>27992492
Meh. Traders gonna trade.

can i still buy avax on okcoin?

>>27992943
>EVERYONE POSTING ON /BIZ/ IS A SHILL!

Nigga please. Take your meds.

>>27992644
>UNTHINKING SHEEP HATE YOU
AVAX is not vaporware, it is superior to other eth killers
ZERO is not vaporware, it is superior to other AVAX DEXs
that's all there is mate

>>27993885
newfag, listen up. when you have been here longer you will learn to recognize non-organic shilling. it starts all at once and the memes are too polished and too numerous. AVAX is a paid-SHILL project. deal with it. if you got roped in that's on you

>>27980205
"There's no way"
There's over 800 validators and it's blazing fast.
If you're smarter, take a quick look at PAXOS, Tendermint, and Nakamoto's PoW. This is clearly a different approach, where consensus is measured indirectly through a statistical metric, hence "metastable"

>>27984524
zero exchange has the option to trade on the avalanche platform but its not active yet, who knows when it will be ready

>>27986146
Compare the rates of growth between eth and avax and youll know the answer.

>>27994046
you're a newfag. btc, eth, link were all shilled like that. when /biz/ starts to shill a specific coin it's for your own good. the shilling is completely organic because we all have bags.

>>27980439
>>27984249
It can just slowly go away, many such cases before, many projects with similar people you mentioned.
>t. 100 avax holder

>>27980205
rofl, its almost like all projects that made it blew all their cash on badger dances and coke.

We goin down to $10 dollars brooos

Sold because its going to go back to around 15 then I'm going to buy back in later

>>27987421
Just by 25 and delegate for 10 pct interest. If it hits 1000 it will be 2.5k passive income

>>27995576
GL. It might, it might not. I'd try and swing a small amount but not the whole bag.

>>27992943
>Missing out on the next eth due to racism

Kek, this is the best /pol filter ever invented. Stay poor.

pretty sure it will be on coinbase soon enough...

>>27995063
We will consolidate at 20.

Also reminder that 720 AVAX is the same as being in the 21 BTC club.

>>27992683
remember, you're here to accumulate avax so dont fuck it up by ending having less avax than when you sold.