/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for wholesome and helpful /PMG/

>>27977438
3oz pirate coin reporting in

>/pmg/ suicide stack

The equivalent of 100 ozt of silver, the minimum amount you want to have so that when the price increases you don't want to kill yourself for missing out on it

>Crypto suicide stack

The pile of investing books you kick out from under your feet as you hang yourself because all your fake currency dropped 40% in an hour and you're left holding the bag

>>27977536
I really need to invest in some geodes like those.

RIP that fren that just posted his stack at the end of the thread lol

>>27977536
if the wife asks me what i want for valentine's day, i know what i'm telling her

>>27977438
wow that is a natural work of art

Hey bros, former silver chad here. Don’t fall for the silver meme. When it’s time to sell either the Jews or eBay will only pay you 90% of spot, even dot your nice premium pieces that they will slap a premium back on

>>27977553
That's what's great about silver. It seems the lowest it could possibly go in today's money is like $12. There is no further bottom unless the market were suddenly flooded.

How many ounces of silver required for pick related?

First time I've ever posted my stack on /pmg/, am I gonna make it boys? Long time lurker, finally figured I'd show off a bit

>>27977712
horay welcome mate!

>>27977712
yes fren, maybe a little gold next? what is that like 100oz?

Awesome interview with DON durett that was posted today. $50 silver this year and $2300 gold. Discussion of silver markets, squeezes, world economics and the next three years of America's future. Highly worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/mSaS0iOnfNc

>>27977712
solid
nice

>>27977760
I've literally lurked the threads for like.. the last two years heh, sponging up knowledge since I didn't have much input to contribute. I've since convinced many zoomers and millennials to stack, especially with the hike on physical at the tail end of GME when they fully understood the shit I'd been telling them about paper vs physical

>>27977702
do they fuck?

>>27977793
He mention any interesting miners

/BIZ/ FULL OF THIS RETARDED BTC RUNNERS LOL

>>27977438
Currently sifting through 70lbs of loose change. So far
>1 war nickel
>1 1964 quarter
>assload of pre1982 pennies
I was hoping for at least 1 pre1965 dime but it’s not looking good.

>>27977925
Did this to my parents change bucket. Found 2 dimes and a quarter. And a penny from 1912. Pretty stoked.

>>27977781
About 150 or so. Mostly in 1 oz rounds I've slowly accumulated with a couple 10 and 1 oz bars, all from texas precious metals.

When there's a big push on bullion dealers TPM usually still has inventory at good prices because everyone mobs JMB and APMEX, and as a Texan I like to support them because they are the operators of the Texas State Bullion Depository, afaik the only state owned depository.

>>27977925
>1 1964 quarter
Last time I went though a fuck load of loose change I found a few dozen 1965 quarters. I felt so cucked. I was so angry.

>>27977712
of course fren
keep it a-stackin'

>>27977866
well now you can!

Stack started feeling super comfy

Frens i have around 200 mexican booba and 2 gold aztecs (15gr gold each around 0.48oz) and this has been the savings of my whole life since i'm a poorfag, will i make it?

>>27977712
Nice safe, would look better with some gold in there.

>>27977712
Nice! Do you own any other guns?

>>27977870
No, but he pumps bitcoin....

>>27978009
This is our family’s change bucket that we left for several years lol. I’m finding a lot of wheat pennies too, which is nice.
>>27978027
The 1965s hurt the most. Had a 1948 nickel earlier that was worn to look like 1943. That one really hurt.

>>27973633

Where are you located?

I'll put up with quite a lot for $90/hour.

I also have a clean criminal record.

Decided to go to the LCS today, this was the last piece of Silver in the entire shop. First time it was like this since last March. The only reason it wasn't sold with the rest of the junk is because it's slightly bent and won't fit in a tube. Cost $10, did I do good?

>>27977553
>only 72 ounces equivalent of PSLV
I'm ngmi

>monster boxes now have 15+% premiums
Normies fuck off.
REEEEEEEEE

>>27978182
Plenty, I stack ammo too. I've got kids and that safe is quick to access, so I put my carry gun in there when I'm not using it, as opposed to my big rifle safe

>>27978257
looks like it was painted. i would soak it in some acetone or rub it with some barkeepers friend in water.

>>27978257
Are most LCS gonna be totally out? I want some Brits, even at fucking $6 over spot.

>>27978257
1oz is 1oz

>>27978215
Check your wheat pennies, it will be rare but you may find a valuable one. Same for indian heads

All right, over the past 10 days I've bought $1700 in silver. Everything from 90% to ASEs to generic rounds.

I think the next time I do a round of stacking, I'll stack kilo bars. They seem like the best bang for my buck and I have plenty of rounds now.

>>27978422
Kilos are better value, but 10oz are more liquid

Depends on how long you plan on holding I guess.

>>27978422
If i were you i'd stick to ASEs, more recognized and if the price goes quite high it'll be way easier to sell 1k in an oz to someone than 31k for a kilo bar, not against it but if as you say you've a lot of rounds you can go for it and enjoy your bars!

rofl you still use this trash
DON’T BE SUCH SO STUPID
I’m not a bastard who believes you and go for scam
I’m longing for bot ocean release to trade with safe

>>27978537
this but the answer should be forever

>>27978346
>Are most LCS gonna be totally out?
At least all of the ones in my vicinity are, two are out of PMs completely save for expensive numismatics and a couple 1 gram Gold bars. The third has weird hours so I can't be certain, but I have a feeling it's out too. They hadn't really restocked from Christmas and the sudden unexpected 1-2 day long surge in demand must've been enough to clean them all out.

>>27978379
Yeah my plan was to keep all of the wheats separate then check them later. No indian heads yet though, fingers crossed.

>>27978635
I kind of like this, minimalist design and clean.

>>27978379
>Same for indian heads
just gotta learn what's valuable

>>27978689
I'll check mine again Monday but last week they still did have some stuff at least.

>>27978776
yeah asahis are a general favorite. they bought out a US refinery some years ago, they make really aesthetic stuff

>>27978344
Thanks, my neighbor's friend has some pure acetone, I'll bring it up with him.
>>27978375
Check the date, it's only 0.35 ounces. It's in surprisingly good condition for a 101 year old half dollar.

>>27978776
>>27978857

>>27978862
Ah, I'm not familiar with the specifics of boomer rocks. I tend to stick to more current rounds and such to avoid this kind of confusion

>>27978851
Checked the website for the third place, it doesn't say anything about the inventory, but it appears they're out of junk. They still have a ton of modern commemorative Silver Dollars though.
Hopefully your place has more in stock.

>>27972728
30k gold. 10k silver. 20k crypto rest in stock funds. I made 500% gains in mutual fundsfrom 2015-2020.

>>27977148
Yeah I'm US. Over qualified doesn't mean Jack to me. I work at a pizza shop. Money's not an issue. In the past five years I've done electrical and irrigation work. Both bosses said they've never seen a college boy work as hard as me.

>watching videos from the past couple years
>guy mentions getting 10oz of silver for around $150
Bros why didn't I fall for the boomer rock meme sooner...

>>27979165
what state? Im not gonna hunt you down for threatening my life, I need to know for federal opportunities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPEbfO9yRIY

If you're in the western US we need to get you on fedbizops and SAM. This is a fairly simple registration to bid on work for the feds. They pay like you wouldn't believe.

>>27978635
Damn would love to get my hands on some asahis...

>>27979363
You had more faith in the dollar

>>27979165
>I work at a pizza shop
I was a shift, store, and district manager for pizza hut for 6 years. it's not a bad thing.

Daily Reminder to buy various PGEs

THIS chart + decent # applications = GUARANTEED growth

chart is logarithmic; example: Rhodium ~3x rarer than Palladium

>Yellow/PGEs are top-tier
>Blue/REMs have low recyclability. However, be careful, new tech could increase ability to recycle like how Aluminum became dirt cheap to extract

TIER LIST (~rarity) V1
>S
- Iridium (high rarity, relatively low price, 2x last 2 years, still discovering uses)
- Rhodium (10x last 2 years, will be lower in future as cars become electric)
>A
Osmium (rare as Iridium, fraction the cost, still discovering uses)
Rhenium (arguably rarest, similar to Rhodium, reasonably low price)
Ruthenium (electronics & medicine)
? (don't want you guys buying this one till I have a nice stack ;)
>B
Silver (many applications, low cost)
Gold (ultimate store of wealth, eternal)
>C
Platinum (volatile price yet doesn't yield)
Palladium ("")
Bismuth (various applications, pretty)
Mercury (hard to get a hold of, fewer applications due to toxicity)

>>27979363
The last few years it's been pretty low, well under $17. I've been focused elsewhere too and not paying enough attention into getting more.

>>27979439
>not stacking physical mercury
>not stacking mercury thermometers

>>27979363
Decades ago you could get a kilo of gold for around $100+ USD

>>27979363
probably because everyone was too busy living their normal lives. I know I didn't get into silver until last year after they started leaving the printing press on. now with the government talking about us not going back to normalcy for years and them saying that economy will never recover until 29 years from now. I'm coming to the conclusion its never too late until its too late.

>>27979497
I've got a few lol

>>27978115
Nice! You ever try making fishhooks from the tabs?

also heres my baby stack

>>27979627
got another 14oz and change coming in too forgot to mention

>>27979627
What's that in the back? Cocaine?

>>27979703
ha nope thats the metal i wont reveal. not gonna shill it yet as im still stacking. I will post full portfolio on it in the coming week or two (have some exams :(

>>27979801
Ok go ahead fren and good luck!
I'm also in exam week lel
Keep stackin'!

Biz question everyone. I get that inflation physically manifests as real assets, and eventually consumer goods rising rapidly in price. ie. Real estate gets more expensive, stonks going up despite no real performance and then cost of living rises.

What does deflation look like in the real world?

>>27979439
>? (don't want you guys buying this one till I have a nice stack ;)
Scandium since that one ridiculous high entropy alloy compound is the perfect material for spacecraft. And out of all the chemical components - Al, Ti, Mg, Li, Sc- Scandium is by far the most costly.

>>27979875
pure hell, what did you expect?

>>27979165
not even kidding, my first year contracting on fedbizopps I was 32 and made 2 million dollars.

anyone that can handle a geo degree can easily handle this shit.

>>27979875
Bread lines and insurrection

>>27979875
deflation is good except that it leads to less spending and more saving
looks like Nazi Germany unironically

>>27979875
"Cash is king"
everything goes down in value but also money velocity goes down and so you will see less fiat going around including loans, banks detest it since it makes themreally lose so they will do what they know best: Get scared and print into oblivion, it won't be that obvious at first but once people start to move money around (so money velocity goes up) you will see inflation and then hyperinflation

>>27979962
I'm in the process of getting a geo degree right now.

>>27979962
Geomatics engineering?

>>27980050
nice, how far along?

>>27979962
What line of work exactly?

>>27980101
fuck no, I'm a geology bs and anatomy ms.

I work in environmental contracting, I own a firm worth more than everyone else in this thread times about 1000

>>27980147
I'm studying environmental engineering and i'm gonna finish this year would that help there somehow?

>>27980213
yes, can you do a Mba? I know it's a meme degree but in our field all the money's in management or ownership

>>27980026
>banks detest it since it makes themreally lose
Margin rate on lending is much higher. And provided they have assets, they can buy whatever they want on the cheap. The only exceptions are when they are partly the main cause of it (1929, 2008). QE actually works against banks by forcing them to lend to more substandard debtors to achieve comparable returns. And it is why, in turn, they have increasingly become de facto hedge funds with reserve assets.
They are chasing ROI like everyone else.

>>27979946
>>27979963
>>27980008
>>27980026
So I should be watching for slowing money velocity in the form of bank's restricting loans, credit cards lowering limits and mass unemployment? All things we're seeing right now.

>>27980107
First year, just getting started. Going back as a mature student actually.

Never attended high school and that left me working gas stations and oil shops which was fine, but I have kids now and need a more real profession.

I like rocks.

>>27977438
How do they make it so spindly?

>>27980300
yep pretty much!
Not much else to say other than be ready for more.

>>27980284
Sure! i'd like to do a Mba, it'd take 2 years to finish but sure

>>27980300
if only

>"White House and US congress agree on £1.7 trillion virus rescue bill"

>>27980336
lol you'll do fine old man

geos make cash like you wouldn't believe. I had a job a year before I graduated

check this chunk I found in a cabin by a mine

>>27980394
>it'd take 2 years to finish but sure
it honestly matters more than your bs

>>27980300
QE torpedos money velocity which is the very thing it is attempting to "spur". They have been pumping it since the 90s in the US, Japan, and Europe with increasing desperation.
Far more terrifying is they succeed and all that printed money tied up in financial assets gets dumped into the economy. The Weimar Germany/Venezuela paradigm.

>>27980413
how long does it take to get a degree?

>>27980413
Christ that's gorgeous

>>27980292
With fractional banking as it is it may be possible but then again even when people would be seeking loans most would stay out of that because they would by definition unable to pay it back, at least most, but i do get what you mean and they will certainly be chasing ROI, paying any kind of interesting on previous contracts would send them to the ground in that event

>>27980455
Then i'll go directly into the Mba thanks a lot fren!

>>27980481
4 years to do a bs and 2 for a ms is average
phd is life
>>27980484
I know right? it was in a burned down cabin I was metal detecting. All my best samples came from 1800's miner's cabins

>>27980376
it grows that way mate, thats metallic silver ore.

Can't decide which I like more, Canada Dollars or Morgan Dollars. Which should I pick up tomorrow?

>>27980540
>Then i'll go directly into the Mba thanks a lot fren!
np fren

the sheepskin doesn't matter on an mba

what matters is what you learn and only what you learn, Learn to eat competitors for breakfast and dominate your niche like a boss. The degree actually doesn't matter in this program.

>>27977793
both interviewer and interviewee come across as total midwits. don durrett talking about bitcoin being "the same thing as gold" and "it's real hard money" lmfao actually i take that back he's a total brainlet and the good parts he comes with he just parrots from others
from 43:30

>>27980413
dam that stuff is fantastic, so much going on in each crystal.

>>27980688
>what matters is what you learn and only what you learn
there's something to be gleaned other than connections from an MBA?

>>27980724
Jenny June silver and gold mine, Leadville district, Tennesse Pass, Lake County Colorado

it's a tasty bit, but I'm going to sell it. What do you think it's worth? It's the size of your fist.

Can I actually avoid taxes by claiming I lost all my silver in a boating accident? It's kind of like a stock loss.

>>27980597
damn shoulda done that instead of this ridiculously hard pharmacy degree.

>>27980778
>there's something to be gleaned other than connections from an MBA?
fuck yes.
analytics, accounting, strategy, and experience.

fucking ignore everyone else and learn everything you can about actually running a legal busisnes.

>>27980871
Your first mistake was telling anyone you had it in the first place

>>27980832
hard to say but i would pay $1500 for that easily. Depends on where you sell it too, someone at one of the larger rock and gem shows could just say name your price its a stunning piece of ore.

>>27980876
lol pharmas make bank

>>27980958
I'm fine with anything over what it's worth to me

after all i got it free from a dead miner

>>27980871
Where the FUCK do you live where you "have to" pay taxes on gains from silver? I understand paying tax when you buy it, that's unavoidable in some places.

>>27981035
Its amazing what sometimes pops up in those old camps, i ve seen coffee tins full of old blasting caps, I found a 12 gauge reloading kit with spare brass shells under a floor once, and yes a few neat mineral samples too.

>>27980937
How else can I use it to deduct my income?

>>27980957
Thats the only reason I'm doing it. Plus the possibility of no boss

>>27981140
The US has capital gains tax on silver.

>>27980901
>strategy, and experience
>learn everything you can about actually running a legal business
any recommendation for maximizing this part?
rather, anything you wish you didn't do or spend so much time on?

>>27981140
it should be capital gains

>>27981193
total shame i always sell at a loss and dont understand when it goes up i get to charge more. ill never sell, its at the bottom of a lake anyway

>>27977438
I have physical gold and silver, I have mining stocks from various countries and a stack of PSLV. What now?

>>27981193
So sell it privately? That's what makes it great, no one has to know. Buy other useful items for silver from other private citizens. I'll sell a Kershaw Blur for 2.5oz.

>>27981035
hay mate have you seen this vid yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zTL97h9nw&t=622s

This guy needs to get a drill permit on that property asap. That looks like it could be huge.

>>27966847
question from last bread
is WSB still trying to get into paper silver or physical. i cant tell from this infographic

>>27981304
SEE >>27979439

>>27981402
no they really want nothing to do with silver right now, the silver bugs involved in that sub went to their own place to weather the storm.

>>27981304
If you still have cash lying around, you could branch to other commodities. Oil, as an easy example

>>27981402
Silver was a psyop to distract. Literally dangling shiny things, but it did work for others so now there's a run.

>>27981575
Asin oil production companies? I was also thinking of investing in American steel producers as I think infrastructure spending is going to be increased in the future

It would be cool if we started walking around with a couple eagles and tried to pay people with them. Normalize silver usage as payment

>>27977438
>tfw your dollar cost average is still under $20

>>27981402
My understanding is that #SilverSqueeze started from some GMErs discussing taking profits into crypto and silver. So, as silver is even more hilariously shorted than any ticker, it got added to the fuel pile. Then when GME started tanking there was a pile of idiots that thought it was because buying SLV helped Citadel "cover their GME shorts".
Fast forward and a more rational silverbug contigent (physical, PSLV, etc.) started their own board.

>>27979378
Not a geologist, but just for a larp, what type of contracts do geologists get ? I'm on the sam website, but can't find anything specific.

>>27981148
i can't legally talk about blasting caps,, but yes if you detect around you'll inevitably find some
>>27981153
mba is aimed at starting your own biz or running someone else's
>>27981234
>any recommendation for maximizing this part?
when you do an mba you have to run a biz
learn everyfuckingthing you can about law and compliance right then
>>27981334
watching

>>27981669
Oil was just an example. Stock to commodity ratio is the highest its been in decades. Stocks surging that high are "pricing in" inflation that HAS to come from commodities increasing in price. So commodities have to go up from here or stocks have a long way down.
But just pick anything with decent upside: oil, steel, copper, tin, zinc, concrete, etc.

>>27980683
I think morgans look cooler.

>>27981758
my firm handles heavy metals cleanup

so anything from janitorial work at industrial water treatment plants to earth moving on abandoned mine sites

a lot of the work I do isn't listed because I'm a well known and trusted company. If they need something done in my range and scope they contact me directly and never put it out to bid.

>>27979875

>>27977438

ok boomer

>>27981334
oh I already watched that

made me think BC is just paved in gold. Ffs they need to get down on that.

Reminder:

>SLV added allegedly 100 million ounces to their trust in three days during massive shortages
>For 72 hours straight they purchased off the market, transported and put into storage FIFTY 1000 ounce bars every minute.

Wow the SLV must have an army of trucks and teamsters to move around so much metal, rivaling the labour involved in constructing the great pyramid of Giza.

It's logistically and physically impossible even if they had a source to purchase from at these prices.

It's much more likely that they just increased the number of SLV shares artificially to depress the price.

And yet, even with this massive dump of SLV shares of impossible portions, they only managed to drive the price from 30 to 27 and they STILL couldn't exit their short positions

We have already won.

>>27977438
the most precious crypto right now is dHEDGE desu. Literally leverage both Ethereum and Synthetix to make a really special project

>>27981798
>when you do an mba you have to run a biz
I appreciate the responses fren. Sounds like a great way to do it.

>>27982003
Is it that far fetched that they could have previous contacts who are ready to sell whenever SLV demanded it?

Maybe they also said they owned it while still in other warehouses, not needing it to be moved at all.

I know slv is already sketchy but this doesnt seem too far from reality.

>>27982035
it works

otherwise go manage a pizza hut for 6 years, that's what I did. then start your own biz and fail because your whore wife leaves you for another business owner and make millions in government contracts just to spite her.

or something like that.

>>27981946
mfw i made a whole spreadsheet on BTC mining profits @100$ per, but didnt buy any

>>27979945
i have a s&w 340 PD thats a scandium hammerless .357 five shot. the five rounds weigh more than the pistol

>>27982113
If you really believe they managed to source 100 million ounces at these prices in three days, then I have some recent election results to sell you.

>>27981987
lucky bugger gets it all nice and trenched in a road cut too lol. Fantastic.

>>27982230
that was fucking incredible to see.

I've seen some crazy shit but never a copper road with iron and probably gold like that.

>>27981946
And yet your Bitcoin picture is always gold, hmmm wonder why?

>>27982286
>the repeating veins of chalcopyrite and fine grain pyrites
>decomposed quartz hiding high value material just under the surface
>400m length at minimum

Any major explorer should be all over this, even if this outcrop doesnt carry much its part of something huge and rich. That looks like two exploration seasons worth of work on its own.

>>27982398
yeah, just the iron and chalcopyrites with the malachite/oxides is worth mining right there.

I know a similar spot where I live, but it's all private property and for sale for $7,000,000 US undeveloped.

those guys just got rich

How we looking for Monday opening? All my pricing stuff shows markets closed so wondering what you guys are thinking next week will be like?

>>27981886
Nice. How did you get into the business ?

>>27982629
>How did you get into the business ?
I studied geology, went to work in mining, and talked with contractors. I found a contractor that wanted to sell and I bought her business. She trained me.

I can train you for free if you don't live in my market though.

>>27982556
Usually bitcoin's movement is a pretty good indicator. Probably be up a little at this point.

Say you buy this. And you sell it that week, how much of a loss is that in percentage?

How do you guys store pure silver? I keep on reading conflicting statements online on how to store

>>27982556
If it follows the pattern it will rise when Asian markets open and then crash back down when American ones open. How big the movements will be and which one is bigger is what's important and what I don't know.

>>27982705
depends who you sell it to

>>27982769
in your pocket? wtf you mean?

>>27977702
He married his... daughter...?

>>27982769
I just toss it all in ammo boxes in a safe. Picked this piece up at a local dealer. Might be from the 80s.

>>27982900
Keep this one on my desk to toss around

>>27982814
i have no idea who would buy an oz of gold

>>27982798
And that's a very good thing. I need another 3 month to get all my position. Also Don Durret expect a crash in PM with general marcket before the true mooning.

>>27982960
Likely anyone if you don't fuck them on premiums. Premiums are so LCS and dealers always have power over you.

>>27982960
i'll give you spot for it that's the best offer you'll get

>>27982769
nobody will never search your rectum

>>27982839
>>27982900
I got some new mints and dont want them to tarnish. I dont want them to lose their shine

>>27982398
just a thought before I head off to big bob's bed, pan man

the ore they show broken in the road, the 15lb chunk cracked in half

it looks like the same shit you used to post on /out/ and still post sometimes here

ore that would be worth mining even if it didn't have any gold or silver

but your fucking ore has visible gold and silver. You're going to get rich off that vein, Mr. man. Assuming it goes past 3 meters. lol

good luck pan man I'd like to lick your ore. I think you're going to do fine on your hardrock endeavors. always have thought so. for years

>>27977537
I want. I'm going to start buying some cooler pieces now that I've hit 500oz with an average buy on of $17.05 USD oz

>>27982769
>How do you guys store pure silver?
In my safe.
Rounds and junk go in tubes, bars sit out on their own, bullion coins go in tubes too, except for some nicer ones which I keep in capsules. Whatever is left either just sits loose or if it's something nicer, gets put in a mylar sleeve like pic related until I have a place for it.
You can buy anti-tarnish strips and desiccant if you feel you need it.

>>27977712
Nice stack.

>>27981140
Capital gains in canada too

>>27983043
Night mate and yes I really hope my ore goes nice and deep! it could be the next Jeff or Eskay Creek for all I know!
These guys might have found one as well!

>>27983115
those 1oz Auriums looking nice

>>27978115
You are mooning for sure

>>27982992
exactly its not like they have any overhead to cover or employee to pay or bills if you are the local coin jew the electricity is free like the water and rent. no taxes or biz license fees either. the premiums are 100% profit if not more

>>27977438
This new Scotsdale coin looks pretty based lads

https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/2021-samoa-alpha-omega-1oz-silver-proof-like-coin/

>>27981140
capital gain in france too. 35%.

>>27983310
oh shit nice is that my lord and savior jesus christ can I get an amen?
still not as based as this one tho
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/10-oz-jesus-clears-the-temple-silver-bullion-bar-999-fine.html

>>27983131
But if you buy under reportable quantities, and sell privately, how the fuck is the IRA going to know ?
Doubt they have enough resources to honeypot people with not that much metal.

I feel like war nickels are the redheaded step child of US junk silver.

Good evening gentlemen. Feels good these dimes I'll tell you hwhat

>>27983584
nice lihzard
how about this tho?

>>27983629
how many housewives is that...?

>>27983693
forgot link https://www.monarchpreciousmetals.com/silver/specialty-silver-2/more-specialty-silver/10-oz-silver-round-dragon-vs-vikings-ultra-high-relief-w-display-box-detail

>>27983361
wtf? on just PM or everything?

>>27983508
True, but if you want to keep everything above board, then there are capital gains. I know here in Canada if you ever get audited and have unexplainable deposits in your bank account you could get ass fucked. I guess it depends on the circumstances. Not that I am advocating it, but in theory if you sold a coin and it wasn't reported, you could just use the cash to buy groceries etc, but as soon as that currency reappears in the system somewhere you might have some 'splainin to do

>>27983693
I wish I had the lizard, not very many were made. That's a cool dragon. It looks very textured.

>>27983629
that looks like a fun wkend

>>27983734
PM. Capital gain taxe is different on other things like stocks or business. But they fucking aim at our throat when it comes to PM.

Just make less than 40 grand and hold your silver for more than a year and capital gains tax doesn't exist.

>>27977553
lmao

>>27981140
>>27981193
>>27981234
>>27983131
>declaring anything
>ever
You fucking faggots never learn, don't you? I never paid a DIME in capital gain taxes and never had any issue. You need to grow some balls one day, and remember how fucking incompetent the gubment is.
Also what do you believe will happen? That they will jail you for few unreported oz? Jesus....

STOP ALLOWING THE GOVERNMENTAL RACKETTING
THEY ALREADY TAXED YOU WHEN YOU WORKED FOR YOUR $, THEN WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR SILVER, AND NOW WHEN YOU SELL IT?
STOP ENABLING THIS PURE MADNESS

>>27983874
and theres no way to avoid it? as in not claim it?

>>27983951
>THEN WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR SILVER, AND NOW WHEN YOU SELL IT?
heh, but i haven't sold anything...

>>27984032
Each year you hold it remove something like 5% or less. You have to keep it 20 years to erase all taxe when selling. You basically don't trade it again when buying physical PM.

>>27983787
yeah its high relief and has a reverse, check out the link.
they're all out now and premium is high but hopefully price with go down temporarily as (((they))) continue to short and I'll get one when they're back in stock

>>27984108
m8 how are they gonna know? how much fucking PM are you buying in one fell swoop? are you not buying with cash in hand?

>>27983874
You just never sale them unless you can trade

>>27984182
The reverse is awesome, I hope you are able to get one. The wooden display case is nice too.

>>27984291
>>27984032
Don't listen to him, taxes on sales for PMs is 6% in France.
https://droit-finances.commentcamarche.com/faq/23223-vente-d-or-et-taxe-taux-et-exoneration

>>27983361
Why are you lying? 30% only apply to financial products (stonks)

>>27981886
whats the cheapest way to get quality tungsten?
not for PM this is more, uh, /k/ related

>>27983951
It's true I moved 20k in stock gains into crypto paid no taxes and that was 4 years ago. We are small fies. Plus with pm you are a fucking idiot if you pay taxes on your gain. Sell it off slowly as you need money for something else and get the to give you btc or eth if you jsut want to take pm gains.

>>27984291
>cash
Do you think (((they))) are not prepared ? You can't take more than 600€ per week from ATM and you have to give a reason if you go to the bank and ask for more than 2-3k. You also can't buy PM with cash if the total exceed 1k. Your ass is basically wide open from all angles.
>>27984418
>Le vendeur peut donc bénéficier d'une exonération totale lorsqu'il possédait le bien vendu depuis plus de 22 ans (à condition de prouver sa date d'acquisition).
Yeah right, turn your brain ON buddy.

>>27979875
Isn't deflation just boogeyman of Keynesian economics?
Shouldn't everything be cheaper because of technological advancement?
The only deflation example I can remember is 1929 crash which wasn't totally organic.
But there are countless examples of inflation and hyperinflation.
Aren't they just tell us those things to justify QE?
Why would deflation even be bad for everyone except mindless consoomers?

>>27980674
>metal
>grows
take your meds

>>27983131
Their is only capital gains if you are an idiot you claims the profits as income. Why would you ever sell your pm for cad? Sell it for crypto.

>>27984376
thanks. just contacted them for info. they make some cool casted bars of unique sizes too, i.e. 2, 3oz bars

>>27984462
um old incandescents?

>>27984506
damn bro i feel for you guys thats harsh
>>27984577
checked

>>27984506
Holy fuck you guys are ruled by nazis. You can deposit $4999 a month in drug money into the bank in Canada and not set off the alarm and I've pulled 25k out before and they asked me for my reason and I said to light it on fire

>>27984462
tungsten is a bit if a pain in the ass to find in non bulk amounts. how much are you willing to spend?

>>27984506
You have 2 options :
- 6% FLAT tax on the total value of the PM you sold
- 19% on the gainz, of which you get a yearly 5% cut after the second year

We are already the most taxed country on earth ffs, the only thing on which we aren't beyond cucked is PM sales. Still pretty cucked though.

>>27984557
not joking mate have a look, the silver metal "grows" into these strange dendrites as the quartz vein fluid cools.

Whos the retard OP that recommends "Silver: $PSLV >>> $SLV" but not $AG

>>27984845
doesn't quartz question our definition of life? I forget the reasoning behind it but some scientists consider it inorganic "life" just like viruses are non-cellular "life"

>>27984581
I wish they accepted crypto. I like their gold rounds.
>>27984845
It reminds me of a heart

>>27984958
not that i know of, its just a type of mineral like any other. What is funky about quartz is what it does when under strain. It generates a small but measurable EM field which can in some instances generate phenomenon such a "earthquake" lights during tectonic shifts.

>>27984781
idk a couple grand if its worth it, pressing reloaded ammo with a tungsten core would yield a light armor piercing projectile if the velocity, weight, and distance were satisfactory

>>27984506
>and you have to give a reason if you go to the bank and ask for more than 2-3k
They lowered it down to 1k recently. To prevent the """financing of terrorism""", topcuck. If your banker estimate your reason wasn't valid enough, they start a TRACFIN procedure for automated investigation of your spending history.
We are living in a NWO tyranny already in France.
Oh and also, they recently planned a decreet to lower the weekly cash ATM limit to 400€. Cyprus truly was the testing ground for the whole EU.
>You will own nothing and you'll be happy

>>27980683
Canada is a better country

>>27984906
question guys should we remove this bit from the OP? Its a hold over from the crazy time we had, is it really still needed?

>>27985141
piezo electric effect its used in sensors for industry etc

>>27984577
The problem with that is that unless we are talking about barter, that money will become fiat through some means, and the closer we come to CBDCs and potential outlawing if crypto exchanges, the less feasible that becomes as a solution. I don't agree with capital gains taxes. I don't think they should exist. There may come a day though when it makes sense to blow your entire stack because gold is worth so much that you want to turn it into a real estate or something. No real estate broker is just going to take a huge handful of cash.

>>27985159
i ll see if i can find a link for you, most suppliers want bigger orders than what you probably want to do.

>>27982003
I don’t think its that far fetched
There are probably many hundreds of kilos of bullion stored away in London banks that can be shuffled around quickly, or more likely they just purchases the rights to bullion in different banks, so its part of their trust but not necessarily in their vault

>>27984906


>PHYSICALLY BACKED ETFs

It was only talking about those. Not miners.

Check this pastebin for more info on miners.

https://pastebin.pl/view/fddd4572

>>27985197
You're the boss lol. Up to you.

I can buy one of these, should I?

>>27985224
and watches

>>27985301
eh fuck it i ll leave it up for tonight than deal with it tomorrow some time.
>>27985390
were not stopping you, go for it mate

>>27985246
theres a guy on youtube that has a great how to video but hes buying it from his local metal shop supplier (i assume since it was on a roll) and that is going to be the most expensive way possible
>>27985197
whatever keeps retards from 1pbtid to make comments like they do is my vote

>>27985183
I’m so fucking done with the NWO bitches. They’re nothing but bags of fake shit underneath their suits.

>>27985390
buy swiss

From what I can tell researching the precious metal industry Gold and silver will definitely go up due to fundamental reasons not factoring black swans like hyper inflation and the such. It seems to me the best way to leverage increasing precious metal prices is to have a initial allocation to physical metals and then to focus on picking out good mining operations in safe jurisdictions that won't get confiscated/nationalized if gold is at $5000 and silver is at $200-300

Going all in physical bullion seems like a opportunity cost when you compare that portfolio to a portfolio with some physical but with a major stake in good mining operations.

>>27984777
>muh nazis
You leafs are almost as dumb as Americans.

French citizens """under""" """nazi""" """occupation""" were several orders of magnitude more free than they are today. When the Allies occupied France in 1945, then the tyranny started. Americans for example raped French women en masse, and stole gold and silver and other assets from French citizens.

I won't be surprised if the French anon disagrees with though, because the "French" education system and mass media has for the last 75 years thoroughly brainwashed the French people into believing the magic mustache man was the devil and that the Allies were welcomed with with hugs and kisses by 99% of the population.

>>27985798
remember what they took from you

>>27984845
>>27984958
Everything is alive to some extent. Even a rock, even a silver and gold coin. Electrons and atoms move around in all objects. Nothing is truly dead, nothing is "just matter" (the idea that matter is dead and inanimate originates from the Jewish worldview by the way).

>>27985602
its not an investment its a store of wealth

>>27985602
What makes you think i'm gathering to eventually part with it?

I found a place that sells 1kg 0.999 copper bars and to my surprise it's very cheap. Considering buying it 4 teh lulz as when I was at school teachers always use to mock us that we'll end up homeless and scavenging copper. Any reasons why I should not stack copper?

>>27985905
What's the book called lad?

>>27986401
I save my pre 1982 pennies. They can't be used for copper yet, but maybe one day that will change and I can sell them. Also they have a nice brown color to them.

>>27986215
I don't know about that. I am excited about silver as a investment due to its wide range industrial uses, it's thousands of years of history as a monetary metal and what I view as a inevitable demonetization of silver.

Silver was $50 in 1980 40 years ago. Think about how much money has been printed in that time, how much $50 was worth in 1980 compared to today. If you are saying silver has stored value in that time you are basically implying no money has been printed since 1980 or that the supply of silver expanded faster then the supply of USD which is insane.

Physical silver is a great investment due to it's insane undervaluation to where it rightfully should be valued. Basically Silver is gold on Steroids and if Silver runs and returns to even just a fair market equilibrium price not even factoring black swans like currency crisis and hyper inflation and the like, Silver could easily go to $100 USD a ounce +. Now when you look at what that means for Silver mining companies then you are looking at potential 10x-100x valuations for these silver mining companies.

I read that right now the current market cap of ALL silver miners is around 20 billion? To put that in perspective the marketcap of all crypto currencies is around a trillion USD. Silver really is a very, very interesting and possibly lucrative metal to invest in. Both in physical bullion and also in mining companies.

>>27986455
no clue mate i ripped it off another thread i was going to do some diggin on it tho at least the references are there

>>27986401
Copper liquidity is so high that the premiums are only worth it if you buy tons of it. If you want to meme it up with collecting the periodic table you could start here:
https://luciteria.com/bullion

With Texas possibly becoming it's own country, will they be minting they're own bullion eventually?

>>27986571
i personally dont see it as an investment i have other investments this is a safe store of wealth for me. its worth noting that when they ban diesel engines etc this will be the end of most major construction, trucking, and farming
you wont be hauling shit in an electric dump truck or moving shit with an electric bulldozer
so this is my consideration regarding mining in the near future

>>27986603
Pretty cool, but I suspect I'll end up paying out of the ass for importing it to europe, even if it goes through customs.

>>27986397
Then you are basically saving money so that your descendance can spend it instead of you. If you are planning to never part with your metal then what is even the point of stacking it?

The reason I stack is so that in a decade or so from now I will be wealthy and won't have to work and can focus on my passions and hobbies.

>>27986401
You should stack copper because it's price is also manipulated by the COMEX but you should never pay for it. If you buy finished copper the premiums are massive and spot price would have to 5x for you just to break even. Buy one if they look nice but otherwise you can scrap it and store it neatly away.

Can OP of next thread make it a Miami Cuban Links Edition?

>>27985390
You can buy a lot of silver instead with a way larger return

>>27984528
I remember seeing a Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell video in which he talks about how sometimes deflation actually helps the economy, and there is no need to always chase inflation. Let me see it I can find a link.

>>27986771
>Texas whining about Texit again
Feels like 1980 again
>>27986813
I don't know if any of these qualify for VAT

>>27986943
the long term result is higher quality products that cost less and less as the currency buys more and more. so inflation in reverse would be low prices, lower wages, lower work hours. the long term would bring an almost volunteer society
see>>27985905

>>27986943
well yeah deflation is fine until ppl stop spending

>>27986771
>>27987059
when they do we gotta get pic related on a 10 oz bar

>>27977553
>he doesn't have 1k oz silver AND at least 10k LINK
ngmi

well i am off tonight gents talk to you all later!

>>27987143
But how could people stop spending?
They would have stop being hungry, stop getting sick and produce everything they need themselves.
Deflation is biggest enemy of modern consumerism and planned obscurity.
That's why they demonize it in mainstream economics.

>>27987143
Yeah, but that's the thing. People will only stop spending on things which they don't need, they'll choose to spend more wisely.

Compared to now, where they're trying to implement negative interest rates so that people are forced to spend money just so that they can have their inflation targets met.

>>27987143
whats wrong with more leisure time if your currency is buying more and growing in value if you decide to save it instead
this is all covered in Human Action by LVMises
adam smith touched on this as well. i forget the story but an apprentice was told to watch a machine and when one vale closed to open another until the other valve opened again. the little boy put a couple of strings on the valves to turn them without him there. the foreman came back to find the stringed valves and the boy fishing out back. enginuity is ultimately an effort to save us from more effort, creating efficiency and thus more leisure time

Would you pay $46 aud ($35 usd) for 20 1oz coins? Want some opinions, haven't bought or thought about silver since last years lows

>>27988849
i would not since they would have to be shipped
im hoping it dips a touch so i can buy more but idk if that will happen in the next month or so. maybe by summer

>>27988849
I guess not terrible but silver will probably go down a bit more unless it gets shilled again

NEW THREAD
>>27988907
>>27988907
>>27988907

I was mk ultrad in the fall sold half my crypto for boomer rocks and missed out on like 300k crypto run. I can only look at my gold when Im drunk. fuck you guys.

>>27989067
>>27989123
I'm buying an oz of gold anyway so shipping doesn't matter, might just do it fuck it, would like it to be lower but i'm impulsive

I own Gold, Silver, and 0xMonero

>>27989758
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
stop trying to steal from people by lying to them about the capabilities of the project
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>27980300
Once the vaccination is done globally we should return to "business as usual"... That's when I believe inflation will kick in as money velocity revs its engine once more

>>27985197
We should return to the OG OP. I still have it, I will bake next

>>27981896
I read that this author later said that he made up most of this story. Is that true?

>>27991353
Imagine believing the vaccine stops transmission or mutations. It's never going away.

Everybody just needs to learn to stop being fags afraid of death

>>27991794
I didn't say it does. No comment on that since I'm not a professional. But once we return to normal functioning society money velocity will return

>>27978857
>Asahi
my favourite

>>27983057
Based anon getting in before the hype. Congrats my friend

Let's make this thread reach the bump limit and then evac to this one

>>27992229
>>27992229
>>27992229
>>27992229

Are premiums for cucks?

>>27992619
you kind of have to pay them to get your physical so I would say no

posting this gem to help the thread reach its bump limit

Holy fuck I can't wait for all these newfags to get bored and sell their shit so silver can be even cheaper before all this shit collapses.

>>27992888

>>27992949

>>27992888
this is a gem but stop shilling your shitty pmg we already have one not full of memes
>>27988907

>>27992907
yes

>>27993122
fuck off nigger, your thread is hot garbage. Next time wait for the bump limit nigger

>>27992229
>>27992229
>>27992229

>>27993214
I'm not going to when there's no posts for 30 mins. you clearly didnt either. just let the people decide instead of spamming

>>27977438

Took a fresh picture of my Kilos on this fine Sunday morning.

>>27993284
they are deciding. They will decide the right thread with the proper OP message.

>>27993294
holy shit man how long you been stacking? I just started not to long ago; only 24 oz and change

>>27993294
nice 20kg Ag stack

Out of curiousity, why do people buy kilo gold bars. I was pricing it out to see how close it was to spot and a 100gr bar is basically just as close to spot and you could smuggle it fairly easily. This shape wasnt an accident

>>27993444

Not very long.

I stacked ~1000z of silver and ~1kg of gold in 2020.

Done for a while.

alright bump limit reached, make your choice:

>>27992229

or

>>27988907

>>27993698
why are their 3 threads?
this is enviously a white Supremacist insurection
what we need a a black transgender person in charge.

>>27993978
a retard made a thread way before we reached bump limit and he fucked up the OP message to boot