/biz/ - Business & Finance

i remember spending money on diablo 2 items. too bad i didnt know about this forum back then or id be rich af now.

>>27843885
Taxation is Communism
And communism is oppression.

They're both Jewish and gay.

>>27843885
Because the government goons threaten you with violence if you don't comply.

i was wasting time on d2jsp instead of being here. what a waste.

Why do you deserve to make any money at all without producing a good or service?

>>27843885
>why do I need to pay taxes
Because people with guns say so.

Get in $CLF

>>27843885
Because the government is Jewish and Gay, and you are a cuck and none of us will do anything about it

>>27843885
>get money from job
>pay tax on it
>put money in NYSE casino
>cash it out
>pay tax on it
>spend it
>pay tax on it

Do you get it yet?

>>27845076
ok can I give a non-autism answer?

I can accept road or land tax, because I use the states resources

>>27845165
why are you against free markets?

>>27845165
>t. salty marxist redditor

>>27846367
What market is that, anon?

The same reason you pay Blizzard for the benefit of accessing those items. There's no such thing as a free meal.

>>27843885
Because you are a nigger cattle. You took it in the ass all your life but this is too much for you now? Nigger please, you will continue paying your dues you retarded animal otherwise you will get fucked in the ass by the state.

>>27846582
i buy and sell a number in a database from you and to me. what state service did I use ?

>>27846710
Not the education system, that's for sure.

>>27846891
exactly so this question requires an answer. where are al the free media asking about this?

>>27846710
Power and internet grid

Transatlantic cables

Reddit

>>27847145
but he already pays taxes for his internet service

>>27845126
im still wasting time there

>>27843885
Because our federal government is completely out of control.

>>27847145
ok, so then we should pay tax on posting on 4chan then ?

I though there was a tax on electricity and VAT on broandband connections already by the way ?

>>27843885
Because Jamal needs some new Jordans

>>27846296
That was the non-autism answer.

>>27847519
ok give me a non non autism answer then

Because they know you won't do shit, until you do which is why they had to crack down on the 50 people that broke into the capital so hard

>>27843885
because Uncle Sam wants his cut
Simple as

>>27847145
This right here is the problem with tax goyim. They don't do any accounting so ever but go "oh yeah roads yeah and other shit or something" and then determine from that that you have to pay an arbitrary amount of 5 different taxes that get embezzles into administrative overheads and overpaid contractors that also happen to be the head of infrastructural development in the local government.

>>27843885
You don't pay taxes for services rendered, anon. You pay taxes to keep you poor and to pay interest to the privately owned Federal Reserve System.

Might want to look into it.....

yea I don't understand it either, it feels like they want to tax our WoW gold lmfao

FUCK OFF

>tax the corporation on its income
>then tax you for capital gains for being entitled to some of that income
it's kikery of the highest order.

>buy crypto with fiat
>crypto appreciates
>use crypto to buy different crypto that I expect to go up
>new crypto goes up
>repeat
At any point in this process am I being taxed? Capital gains or anything?

>>27845126
>>27847264

Damn they're still around? What a throwback.

>>27850483
You get taxed on capital gains when you take it out as cash.

>>27847904
how is that autistic he's just saying the truth

Real answer: The government enables all of those companies to make money. They make the roads they use to move goods around. They regulate the air traffic for shipments. They regulate the food industry to keep the consumer safe, etc etc etc

Govt and private sector mutually benefit from each other and your stocks wouldnt go up without the government.

inb4 a bunch of libertarian edgelords attack me with their fedoras

>>27850796
Most people will find it impossible to work out what was traded for what, how the hell do you pay taxes on something you bought for the memes a decade ago and traded through 6 other cryptos.

>>27845165
Because it's a free world, faggot

do i pay tax if i take out a loan and pay the loan off with my cryptos?

>>27851350
You don't anon. The whole reason behind this admin's bad attitude towards crypto is to scare off normies from buying it and thus breaking free of their taxation shackles.

>>27851350
It's just taxed based on the amount you take out, how you got it doesn't really matter

>>27851350
taxbit does it all for you. it's easy as fuck

>>27851142
they pay road tax for that, and customs and VAT on shipments and food

next

also, what company is uniswap? oh yeah its a blockchain smart contract

>>27851142
>*tips fedora*

>>27843885
STOP YOUR ANTISEMITISM NOW

>take a poop
>pay tax
it's all so tiresome

>>27843885
Join the no tax movement, just don't pay tax. What's the worst that can happen?

>>27851142
You mean the roads paid with tolls. You mean the FAA that imposed quotas and cartelized the airline industry. You mean the food inspectors that have no idea what they're doing and just enforce some of the most arbitrary rules on the book that have nothing to do with food safety. Or the fact that alot of certification and regulatory compliance is contracted/outsourced to favored firm.

You're an unimaginative dipshit and it's amazing you spew this shit on a board that's mainly focused on DEFI right now.

Like I said above, not only is taxation an incredibly fraudulent way of determining payment for services, but you haven't even done the account to justify specific taxes for specific things in specific amount. I'm glad I live in a tax haven now. Kiss my ass nigger faggot.

I dont respect the government. I do not feel represented therefore I will not pay taxes on thing I have control over.

>>27852228
exactly

>>27851668
Capital gains requires you to know your...gain Anon.

>>27843885
You're a piece of livestock for the political class, the same one lefties are continuously coming up with new excuses to give more power to.

>>27843885
>Exactly why do I need to pay tax because I clicked 2 buttons of buy and sell 2 times?
because you let them

>>27843885
Because the securities you bought and sold are probably supported by public infrastructure.

>>27852228
Right on time

>>27845165
>owning part of a company which provides goods and services isn't providing goods or services

>>27851142
Yeah exactly.

>>27850796
That's wrong, trading crypto to crypto is a taxable event if it's not transferred to fiat and the exchanges report it as such

>>27847904
Government response is social contract, you wouldn't have that ability if not for them!
But its a lie
Its about making you a bitch

>>27851676
Thanks for this, Anon. Bookmarking

>>27845165
If you made money then you deserve it, you faggot redditor.

>>27852524
Nice argument. Now ready your sister's asshole because after I kill you, I will castor oil her asshole with a chimney sweeper. Yes this a threat.

>>27852827
Yeah alright fatass.

>>27843885
even if you win the lotto you still have to pay taxes for it. Taxes is how the government runs and the bigger it is the higher the taxes. Just wait till there's free college and healthcare in America to see how much harder living will become... There's a reason why poor people go to the US and not Canada.

>>27845776
OOOH I GET IT! WE HAVE TO KILL THE GOVERNMENT!

>>27852475
so why don't i need to pay tax on buying a diablo 2 item?

>>27845063
Taxation is extortion

>>27846296
You want to be lied to?

>>27845165
Do nigger children deserve to starve in Africa? Do you honestly believe life works like that? Where people always get what they “deserve”? Who decides what people deserve?

>>27853118
exemption for digital items I guess

You people pay taxes? Why do you live in cucked countries?

>>27853118
Its a private sale between two players isnt it?

>>27845165
Because other free people agreed to trade with me.

>>27845165
Stores buy and sell stuff. We buy and sell stuff.

>>27843885
>It's no different from buying and selling a sword in Diablo
Fun fact the Kraken exchange was founded by a guy that used to run a Diablo 2 item trade service back in the day

>>27845776
Honestly the FED should have made a reliable and usable (semi-centralized) stablecoin back in like 2014 to replace the global financial system (petrodollars) that basically taxed every wallet an inconsequential amount regularly for maintaining the network. They'd be set.

>>27853341
Mr. Goldberg, of course.

>>27853268
no but what is the REASONING other than

>HURR DURR THEY CAN FORCE YOU

that's you know, the usual political way of creating a new tax. you pollute the air, you use the road, you import so local business dont get your money etc

>>27853415
so crypto that exists fully digital, is n't a digital item ?

>>27843885
Go innawoods and become self sufficient.

>>27853863
yes, so just like uniswap or a trade on any blockchain then

>>27854405
Thats not the reason tho
If it would be the reason why not found it voluntarily
If it would be the reason why not at least bind the money earned by the tax to the cause, for an eco tax use it for environmental cleanup projects
But its not
They extort taxes because they can, and normies really believe it's because of good reason so its easier to extort by only heightening it a bit at a time

>>27854555
Exactly, but taxes are not about ethics or logic, its about extortion of value
They always try to play out two groups against each other to get easy acceptance
Environmentalist vs industry is pretty often for example, the states way to "solve" the conflict by allowing the work but at a tax
The environment is not protected at all but the state gets to extort money from the industry with support of the environmentalist

So if you perform proper opsec and trade on non-KYC exchanges, there's no possible way to track your trades, right? You'd only need to worry about taxes from deposits and withdraws into and out of a KYC exchange you use to trade into fiat. IE, you use regulated exchange fiat for stablecoin, take the stable coin out of the exchange, attain anonymity with it, move about cyberspace free of tax, and when you need fiat bring stablecoin back to your KYC exchange and pay income tax on any coin you have that exceeds initial deposits? Just an academic discussion.

>>27845063
North Korea and Hoxhaite Albania are/were the only two countries in modern history which did away with income taxes.

>>27854490
>what is waco siege
>what is ruby ridge

>>27856119
Huge failures for Mr. FED that did irreparable harm to the government's image, and has made any subsequent draconian action impossible. The US backed down over millions of dollars in grazing fees because a couple of people showed up.