/biz/ - Business & Finance

I want to buy vangold bros...

First to post stack
His name is Michael

Is anyone else not a doomsday stacker and just loves shiny rock and pretty pictures?

>>27794717
So, Pan Man, how does quartz carry gold from the mantle to the surface? Why do geologists think the core is nickel when there are much denser elements that would sink deeper? What is the pressure in bars at the core of the earth?

>>27794806
hi michael the silver bar
sorry i didn't greet you in the last thread

So I saw this https://www.mining.com/first-majestic-scores-small-win-in-mexico-tax-dispute/
When/if silver rockets what is to stop the governments of s america from squeezing the mines for more bribes and gibs?
Can First Majestic and Great Panther handle the corruption or are they naive babbies that are gonna get fleeced?

>>27794804
Why is it still halted?

>>27794806

Hey Michael. Hope you like your new owner.

>>27794806
Hi Michael, this is jack

>>27794639
>Can we get a better pick of them, to see if we can find any matches?

>>27794717
Pan Man, we were discussing bayhorse a few days ago but you went to sleep. I was asking when you believe bayhorse would get a buyer for their concentrates. Have they ever given updates or speculation?

>>27794885
>sorry i didn't greet you in the last thread
it's fine
Is it normal to become emotionally attached to your silver?

>>27795007
i think so
i'm new and I can see it happening to me

>gold down
>silver down
>dollar up
>stocks up
>btc up
is gold and silver really worthless?

>>27794890
They could just do what FDR did and steal people's gold and silver again

i don't care if it's only february I WANT NEW PRODUCTS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>27795007
>tfw I’ve never actually seen any of my stack in person

>>27794986
I thought they were selling to some company called ocean

Imagine not prepping the BHLL lads

>>27795045
Fuck off

>>27794951
I'm sure he likes it better than being in a mint's vault.
>>27794955
Hi Jack!

>>27795045
Are you retarded?

>>27794804
Keep it halted please
I ran out of cash for this month

>>27794986
Front looks same

>>27794870
nope all right wing doomsday'ers on here.

>>27794955
I have one of those kilos. I keep it in the plastic kek

>>27794870
me! shiny rock purdy

>>27795134
Don't they get halted when they do a deal? Signs it is too late.

>>27794870
I thought we were preparing for when the Vampires and Werewolves came to rule us openly

>>27795111
>>27795129
why so angry?
dollar printing is at an ath yet gold and silver just keep dropping while the dollar, stocks and btc soar
now is when gold should be rising but it’s falling
when exactly does holding gold/silver pay off in relation to everything else?

>>27794876
Ah very good question!

The metal in the core is not the same metal that we mine in the crust and upper mantle. The cores metals sank down there when the earth was still a molten blob, the metals we mine were deposited during the second and late bombardment eras of earth, this is also where liquid water set up shop on the surface. By this point the plant had cooled enough to form multiple layers and became more plastic than fluid, so the molten metallic elements could not sink deeper than the mid mantle. Than after water showed up and brine action began with plate tectonics, fluids began to work their way towards the surface in the form of magma. This magma also picked up dissolved elements and water / brines with it, which when nearing the surface (4-10km) quickly shot into faults and fissures generating the first quartz fissure veins as well as the first VMS and Porphyry deposits. This process is on going too, gold veins can in some instances form in a week end after an earth quake, how ever much of this process is still alien to us. Such as how these metallic elements like gold become dissolved in the super enriched fluids.

>>27794986
I tried a reverse image search and I actually got anime.

>>27794689
Sounds interesting, but I think I am of a different mettle. Who knows what is down there
https://youtu.be/ywZ5uo_3Y_A?t=8

>>27795174
Yeah I asked where they got it from and they couldnt remember or find an order confirmation or invoice so I have no clue who made these. But probably one of the better trump coins out there desu. Although I have my eyes on this one from GSM kek

>>27795266
I bought it off of another dude I went to high school with. I got it for 1000 bucks back in August but I couldn't order online at the time. Wasn't my best purchase but it bumped my stack up to 100 OZs

Ngl, it's pretty tiresome to see every shitcoin go to the moon even though you know it's all a gigantic ponzi scam and they still have 0 use case, while seeing silver getting hammered down over and over again.
What's wrong with this clownworld seriously...

>>27794987
Bayhorse has a buying for their concentrates currently and is shipping it when available thats as far as I know as their website isnt clear. I am looking for the name of the buyer now.

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CLF

$CLF
02/04/2021
>"New orders for manufactured goods in December, up eight consecutive months, increased $5.2 billion or 1.1 percent to $493.5 billion, the U.S. Census Bureau reported today."

https://www.census.gov/manufacturing/m3/prel/pdf/s-i-o.pdf

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$CLF
02/04/2021
>"US trade court dismisses challenge to Section 232 steel tariff"

https://agmetalminer.com/2021/02/04/this-morning-in-metals-us-trade-court-dismisses-challenge-to-section-232-steel-tariff/

>>27795424
At least I can sleep easy knowing I have real money and not a portfolio of shitcoins that can evaporate in my sleep

>>27795369
>buy low, sell high

>>27795424
They'll allow crypto to go farther because crypto isn't a threat to the dollar, as it sits now. Silver and gold is a direct threat to the dollar and debasing the entirety of the Federal Reserve's money printing scheme, so it has to be suppressed to this level.

>>27795402
>Who knows what is down there
You ever watch the movie the decent? Saw it when I was 8 and stayed the fuck away from caves till I was 16.

>>27795403
Kek, saw this one in last thread so I'm getting it soon

>>27795321
Werewolves maybe. Vampires?

>>27795558
Remind me to post this in the op the next time I start a banker hate thread on /pol/

>>27794986
>https://findbullionprices.com/p/President-Trump-2020-1-oz-Silver-Freedom-Coin/
I found it on this site, but it just says various mints

>>27795056
what the fuck?

Had boomers selling back to the store today

Hope they get a nice rv and get the fuck out of dodge

>>27795558
I'm personally holding out until they take orders on the antiquated finish one. Better contrast and you can see our Lord more gloriously and more pain and terror on the jews' faces during the holocausting

Someone replied to me with this
>999 scrap silver from someplace reputable
not really, if you want the absolute cheapest, get silver shot.

Ive heard that this is considered one of the worst silver you can get BUT that was because it was not labeled.
I plan to use a mold or at least a stamp to all the information along with a certified card stating what brand my bars and rounds are and the number created.

Will this allow me to sell at a normal markup if it ever comes time to sell?
I understand in the beginning I have no trust in the public so this will mean no for right now.

>>27795073
i can't buy on webull :(

>>27794870
No, i want my x150.

>>27795599
They don't like silver, you need a lot to kill them though. Hence the stacking.

>>27795321
Fuck in that case PAN MAN>>27795380
I'll indenture myself in your salt mine in exchange for silver bullets

>>27795399
Whoops I forgot my image.

>>27795414
Hyuk hyuk, nothin wrong with that

>>27795073
I cant wait to see the underground drill results from Bunker Hill. If you had 100 US silver dollars, 7 of them came from Bunker hill.

>>27795758
I mean why on Earth would I wan to keep her away? Then again, she's probably just some Umbrella abomination cosplaying as a vampire as she still has a reflection.

>>27795632
based

>>27795753
Making me hungry

>>27795544
yeah but gold/silver just keeps dropping in relation to everything else so selling “high” is impossible
bread is literally a better inflation hedge at this point

>>27795715
I do like the detail, but shiny shiny got me. Also getting a samurai one for the lulz and bc Jews fear the Samurai

>>27795671
This is the only appropriate response

>>27795321
>>27795599
>>27795758
>>27795817

>>27795453
Oh damn, you think the time table on loading up on penny Bayhorse is thin?

Another must-have from GSM

also who ever posted the spooky sounds in the mine last thread thank you! its been a while since heard Tommy Knockers and thats only the second time i ve heard them on film before.

>>27795552
Heard an interesting point from Schiff in one of his recent podcasts. Any time a goldbug says a collapse is imminent, the collective response is to take your meds schizo it's not happening. But crypto guys get to go on mainstream news and actively shill their shitcoin with exactly the doomer economic crash scenario that PM people suggest. Digital gold, store of value, etc., and it attracts exactly the type of people who would be interested in PMs and corrals them off into buying coins, aka numbers on a screen. Really made me think

>>27795715
Buy a normal one and antique it yourself

>>27795874
Do you even

>>27794717
You doomsday fuckers are worse than the pepe posters. If fiat breaks down you really think anyone is going to give a fuck about your "precious metals" ? Even if they do they're more likely to just run up on you and nab your shit.

>>27795656
>>27794986
All the sights say "coming soon" on a 2020 round so I think they were just limited run things.

>>27795944
the markets still not recognized them so you may not have a lot of time, but to be honest their work before wasnt great and turned away a lot of the more vocal investors, so you may have more time to stack on them.

>>27795817
Not choosing Blonde Chinese cartoon vampire

>>27794890
Whats the issue with GPL?

>>27795874
I don't think I have the words to explain to you how profoundly stupid what you just said was.

>>27795380
I find it interesting all the scientific supposition about the core without direct evidence. Your assertion that “this process is still alien to us” is very apt. What a fascinating little rock we find ourselves on. Quite unlike anything else in the solar system and, likely, in our Milky Way neighborhood. I find it probable that the core of the earth would have many heavy elements existing in stratified layers that synergistically create fusion energy and by juxtaposition our fantastic and life affirming magnetosphere.

I like your theory of plastic earth stratification. That makes more sense when you put it that way.

Are you familiar with the Soviet, Kola deep borehole?

>>27795992
Thank you for giving me some answers. I wanted to know if mines could be used as a front to a portal to hell, or if it was just bugs shaking, or what.

>>27795874
Banks short it on the futures market, driving the price down. Price of physical asset is determined by this derivative price. I don't fully understand how exactly someone profits from this, can anyone give better details? Is it just like shorting any other stock?

>>27795997
Just a little tired

>>27795942
That thread got me on the Jews=Vampires train
glad u posted, couldn't find it

>>27796080
She is the first choice, but why not both. And Hasshaku-sama too. They can carry my bags of silver and gold.

>>27796080
She is in my opinion the most beautiful anime character in her movie design. Whoever did it really took to her description to surpass the imagination.

>>27796024
Venezuela.

>>27796018
>>27796114
ok
so when does gold rush ahead of BTC/stocks? I’m curious, please tell me

>>27795424

Bruh relax. It means you get to trade in like 25 worthless shit-tier monopoly dollars for 1 oz of pure hard currency, when the real exchange rate ought to be somewhere around 1000:1. Just fucking buy and sit on it forever

>>27796153
There are several tiers:
T1: SLV is complete paper. They can print it up just like fiat. It's owned by JP Morgan and it's backed up by a reserve called the comex. They print the stuff like candy and it's overleveraged almost 200 to 1. This is what the media reports as "silver price" but you may hear the term "spot" here. If the comex dies off then the actual price of silver becomes obvious but it's held down intentionally to keep everyone else poor. Buying SLV just gives money to JP Morgan. What happened is they printed off another 4x the annual global production in one day.
T2: PSLV is paper but can be redeemed for silver. Acceptable, but not ideal. They made a big buy recently to backup their reserves.
T3: Actual silver. Bars, coins, etc. Something you can hold in your hands. When people here talk about silver, it's almost always this.

>>27795453
>>27795944
https://www.newsfilecorp.com/release/72407/Bayhorse-Silver-Executes-Formal-Offtake-Agreement-with-Ocean-Partners-Ltd.-for-Bayhorse-Silver-Concentrate

Hoping things pick up. Don't know if I want more than 50000 shares but tempted to go all in...

>>27795556
>>27796144
>I wanted to know if mines could be used as a front to a portal to hell
Probably >>27795402

>>27796268
I know fren, i know.. It's just that my stack could have been so much bigger if i swinged few shitcoins for a time then putting it all into silver. I wouldn't be stuck with a pathetic 60oz stack..

>>27796509
60 is better than 0. Don't feel bad about missed opportunities blah blah blah. Just keep looking forward.

Why are so many autists in to silver? I’m that doomsday tier skitzo shit and then see some cartoon tit toy being posted. What in blue fuck

>>27796256
Hair: gold
Eyes: gold
Heart: Platinum

Yeah best girl by miles.

>>27796193
Pale old vamp lady not frenly

Send help I am obsessed with libertads

>>27795402
Gandalf the Grey didn’t become Gandalf the White by avoiding a duel with the Balrog. We can’t shirk away from confronting the unknown. The mysteries of the earth are astounding.

>>27796136
Kola was recently beaten as the deepest hole drilled by man, thats currently held by a drilling platform gas bore hole off Florida at almost 12.5 km deep. The deepest man accessible hole is Mponeng gold mine in south africa at 4.5km from the surface.

>>27796144
I dont know what they are, restless spirits of miners watching out for their kindred or some ancient force that wanders the depths of mines, but Tommy Knockers are real. 50% of my coworkers have seen or experienced them underground. Wandering in the depths of a forgotten mine with friends and watching a small blue light float at head level down the drift in front of you is so surreal. Or hearing men work air drills and gear just down the next section of drift only to find no one there is a strange experience.

Pic related came from a mine in Colorado and ended up on a few tv shows. I have another similar shot from a mine in northwest BC.

>>27796447
Are you sure you replied to the right post

>>27796509

feel ya bro. this is why im building my stack slowly and also why i waited a bit to buy real estate. had to get some multibaggers before committing to the long plays. keep go

>>27796628
Silver doesn't lie to you unlike society
mostly shiny shiny

>>27796716
>that feel when obsessed with ASEs
>that feel when premiums on ASEs are 20+%
This feel is not the good feel.

>>27795424
You should be involved in both. Crypto is looking towards the future for big gains, while metals is securing real wealth.

>>27796835
ASEs are nice but I'd love background updates like Brits and Maple Leafs get. Snazz it up.

>>27796764
>Tommy Knockers are real. 50% of my coworkers have seen or experienced them underground. Wandering in the depths of a forgotten mine with friends and watching a small blue light float at head level down the drift in front of you is so surreal.

It’s probably St Elmo’s fire working down an ore vein. As to the ghost miners, no telling what you saw.

>>27796835
It definitely hurts the wallet and the soul

>>27795715
why not get both?
also is antiquated ever worth the extra premium?

>>27796002
How does one do that?

>>27794955
Hit the road Jack, and don't come back no more.

>>27796769
No
>>27796447
was for >>27795874

For your question, it's very simple. JPMorgan has effectively a direct line to the Fed. As long as any competing currencies are kept down then they benefit greatly.

>>27796153
Because the banks run the Federal Reserve and order the printing of our money. Money that was previously backed up or made of physical silver/gold. Right now the common man sees the safest way to store their money in US Federal Reserve Notes locked up in a bank. If silver/gold were unleashed to the state they should be at, unmanipulated by unbacked paper trading, the common man would start to think Silver and Gold is the safe way to go, effectively destroying banks entirely.

Since banks can print as much money as they want, whenever they want, even in the event of a bank rush they can just print up more. They cannot create more physical silver nor gold to dish out. This keeps people's money in the bank forever, allowing banks to loan out however much money they want to anyone they want whenever they want. More loans = more money for the bank.

To make it short (pun intended), physical silver and gold cannot be faked. It's easy to test, and impossible to simply create out of think air or print onto a sheet of paper. Banks don't want to deal in this actual, physical, tangible, unmanipulable currency.

>>27796931
Electricity and a watery electrolyte-rich medium.

>>27796895
its some strange force for sure, what ever it is makes a lot of people freak out the first time they experience it

How many exploration miners get raped in remote BC in the wall tents

>>27796080
>>27796256
>>27796645

>>27796764
Fascinating!

This is what I found about Mponeng

>>27797015
Reminds me of a thread I saw on x about a bunch of feral cave dwelling people in a cavern deep in the earth. Kinda want to pop over there and see if something like that is up there. But last I was there someone was larping they could fly like Peter pan off the statue of liberty

>>27796974
>and impossible to simply create out of think (sic) air or print onto a sheet of paper.

Lab diamonds are a boy's best friend. I can't wait for Da Beers to get fucked when flawless diamonds are cheap as shit.

>>27796717
True. Good way to think about it. What do you think about the theory of Agartha? Part of it is that there are passages at major wonders of the world from the surface to inner earth

>>27797100
How can any other girl even compete? They're all vying for number 2. Also won't they all eventually die leaving him with Shinobu anyway?

I want her on a coin.

guys i bought 7 months ago can the price start going up soon

I'm sorry to all the miners who got the shit spooked out of them so I can have my boomer rocks.

>>27797178
yea /x/ went full head case around 2016 and hasnt looked back since
>>27797162
a note about the illegal miners down there, they come in from abandoned mines nearby, drilling away and working under guard of organized crime, breaching new workings and working during the off shifts of the main mine. Attacks against workers started getting so numerous that armed escorts had to be sent down with the miners to fight them off. A BMP1 APC was modified and sent down as well at one point.

>>27795369
>when exactly does holding gold/silver pay off in relation to everything else?

A crisis plain and simple think 2008

>>27794880
>>27796080
>>27796645
>>27797100
/pmg/ has good taste

>>27797214
I bet Elvis is alive and well, chilling in the inner world.

>>27795715
There worth it bought this one 5 over spot in march for $186

>>27797355
Same here, still in the red over a half a year later

>>27796452
>but tempted to go all in..
NEVER go all in onto a junior anon, even miners themselves would tell you it's basically the riskiest kind of companies to invest on worldwide.

There is no other business with so many things who can go wrong in so many ways than miners. Especially juniors, they have to overcome so many difficulties and random stuff it's almost never worth it. They LITERALLY have to be lucky for their things to start to operate, because of random grades hitting random veins hoping to not get blocked by random shit... And that's just on a geological level, then you have all the political game, the native racket, the governmental corruption, the endless regulations, permits, authorizations, ecology hazard, prices of arsenic, oil, ammonium nitrate, cyanide and others products eating huge part of your gains, random accidents killing your employees, your material breaking up, limited access to the terrains, silver & gold prices swinging widely all the time, etc etc etc....

A safe PF would contain 0% of miners. Every fund manager would tell you that.
Of course we stackers are a different breed, but really fren, the potential rewards are not worth the risks, especially now we are entering the ecolotyranny clown timeline, where miners are literally public ennemies number 1. How many more bullshit regulations will they invent? Or forbidding the miners to use X or Y chemical?

If you really want to bet on miners, at least go for the big names, they already went down all the process successfully. It's way harder to kill an already operating mine. I'd say 80% big names and 20% juniors/explorations.

>>27797684
this, follow this. Junior mining is littered with failures. Do not become glued to one specific company or project. Look at NAK as an example.

>>27797652
hot

>>27797779
Alright, I'm going to bed. See you tomorrow pan man.

>>27797923
night mate!

>>27797779
I was actually planning on slowly buying up about 5. Putting in about 1000 in each. Already have bayhorse a bit, some GPL, gonna get blue lagoon, american manganese inc, and I don't know if blue sky uranium and ur-energy count. Any opinions on these?

>tfw silver shipment confirmed and en route, got it just before everything sold out

>>27796018
>>27796114
>>27796153
>>27796966
look, I’m not saying gold is going to zero, I’m saying it’s going negative
the Grayscale Trust documentary #DropGold is perfect evidence of this
in it we see a man that is so heavy from his gold he can BARELY WALK and that’s at $1800 an ounce, imagine how heavy he’d be at $10 an ounce
at that point miners who produce millions of tons of gold every year will have to start paying people to take all their gold, and what do you think will happen to the man in the documentary then? he will LITERALLY get CRUSHED TO DEATH under the weight of his gold, and if you think gold prices are low at -$200 an ounce wait til you see what happens when people realize gold is a literal death trap, I’m talking -$500,000 an ounce gold
and if you think owning miners will be safe, just wait until the lawsuits start rolling in from the loved ones of people that have been crushed to death from worthless gold
you guys are stupid, I have massive multibillion dollar institutions on my side, all you have is a bunch of crazy goldbug peepers with tinfoil hats
>https://youtu.be/_BIDcmh_6Es

>>27797994
>mfw got a $10fv BU 90% Kennedys and $10fv Circ Franklins before the premium boost

>>27797591
This is now Precious Metals and Waifu General

>>27797463
Does this have anything to do with those miner strikes where the cops opened up with their FNFALS on “protesters” a few years ago?

>>27798036
based retard

>>27797162
>tfw you will never become a golden hermit; rejecting humanity and ascending in a warm, golden coccoon, closer to the mantle of the Earth than any other man before
It sounds like NEEThood, except you can pick away at the walls for your munnies. Mandela really did a number on that country.

>>27798036
Except millions of tons of gold aren’t produced annually, you fucking tard. Do your DD.

>>27798258
yes and also to do with poverty in general getting out of hand in the country. A dozen south african mines shut down between 2006 and 2018 as companies got fed up with hoards of black peasants constantly broke into their operations damaging machinery, and stealing gold ore. Most were poor slum rats while others were miners who were no penniless, these miners than managed to talk the south african criminal underworld to fund the illegal miners activities for a percentage while also protecting the miners from government forces. Its only getting worse too, 12 miners were killed when their bus was randomly held up by illegal diggers who wanted to steal their uniforms and access badges only a few weeks ago.

>>27798420
It wasn’t him. He tried his best to make the Afrikaner and the African brothers. It was the fucking tribes and the commies that ruined SA. The apartheid government never should’ve relinquished power. That being said, if you talk to white SA expats and newly minted western citizens you’ll find that the will to fight on wasn’t there. It’s a canary in a gold mine, so to soeak

What is the cure to precious metal obsession?

>>27798420
those illegal miners are almost all indentured / slaves of crime bosses. Each one controls part of the illegal mine complex and only takes orders from the surface guys when needing too. Your thrown into a dark hell like that with no protective gear and only a basic set of tools, usually as punishment for not paying bills or what not. If the main mines forces catch you, your dead. The mines security detail can shoot to kill and they do on a regular basis.

so whats the timeline on this

>>27798036
This is quite the bait.

>>27798036
dum-dum

>>27798036

What a catchy commercial. I must say that institutional traders are getting into the crypto space. It seems like Grayscale started their trust first and now there are Venture Bitcoin Trusts popping up in all over world. Soon, every major bank, insurance company, pension fund is going to be buying up bitcoin and treat it like its a mutual fund, etf or stock.

Its all too tiresome seeing this happening. Bitcoin, instead of liberating the world and making it being used as an actual currency. Its all centralized in China and its being treated as a speculated asset in America.

>>27798678
moar stacks

>>27795402
>>27796717
>>27797162
>>27797214
I agree with the hopi prophecy about mining precious metals. I think eventually it will create disaster and cataclysm

>>27798695
Again, as I said, sounds like a comfy blacksite. All it needs is a foreman playing chinchiro and you'd have Kaiji kino.

Is now the time to sell off some of my silver for 35/oz or are we holding?

>>27798947
Don't try to 'flip' physical silver.

>>27794806
>ITS MA’AM

>>27798855
Cool story bro, which Native American casino scammed you out of enough money to indoctrinate you?
I'm more of a patron of the concept that Terry A. Davis actually talking to God, for my schizo memetheories myself.

>>27798539
The ANC is fucked. Welcome the commies and tribal governments. SA will be exactly as it was before the white man ever colonized. Good job, libshits. You took the one good African country and demoralized them into the Stone Age.

>>27798807
that’s why you buy dogecoin

>>27798678
Non fiat/jewish currency

>>27799058
The sooner gold silver supply stops, the more extreme the revaluation of our stacks will be

>>27798695
Aren’t you glad you live in North America?

>>27799209
yep do i ever, and a remote part at that.

>>27799255
What kind of guns do you have? Did Trudeau get everyone’s sporterized funz or is there still strength in the race of men?

>>27798539
Someone needs to make a film adaptation of this shit jesus

Get the District 9 guy

Guys what should I do with Irving? Time to double down or finally cut the losses? The has been bleeding for months with no news. Also I am worried about their debt, currently standing at 100M. Doesn't this mean that they'll need to dilute heavily at some point to deal with it? Considering that the share price has already absolutely tanked it would be a terrible time to dilute but I see it as inevitable in the near future. What do /pmg/ bros?

Took delivery of 100oz silver yesterday, got in just before prices got jacked up and supply went poof. Probably have 1k/mos disposable income, 2k if I cut back on lifestyle. What next? Wait for restock and buy more physical next dip?

>>27799326
I am willing to discuss the SKS and lever guns, everything else I have is now prohib in this fucking country, doesnt matter though mike from canmore bought those. Nothing has actually been confiscated yet though because the government is so utterly incompetent that no one not even their own RCMP wants to do it. They also dont have the budget for the buy back in general so its all in limbo right now. We may yet over turn the ban though so theirs that. The govs legal team fucked up badly several times in the recent court hearings, enough to make the judge fume.

>>27798539
So your saying I can buy human suffering in the form of a Krugerrand?

Ok I got a bit of Bayhorse, now I want somethingvwithout the massive risk but still a decent reward? Is First Majestic my best bet?

>>27799543
First Majestic's not a bad idea, you could also look at companies like Centerra Gold as well. Comfy stable Canadian operator.

>>27799543
If you want high risk play see >>27799458
Irving resources has done nothing but tanked. The line is at the same level as during the March market wide panic.

>>27798917

It makes me wonder just how many of these in-debted miners are working in these black sites right now? I could imagine seeing this happening all over the world and no one would even bat an eye thinking about how they get their gold, silver, or even their everyday products.

>>27799528
I think pre apartheid krugerrands are cool just to own something from that era, but yes

>>27796764
>The deepest man accessible hole is Mponeng gold mine in south africa at 4.5km from the surface.
That must be so surreal. Deepest I’ve ever been was a bit lower than 1km and that was quite the experience (coal though, so very different from gold mining)
But besides depth bragging, how do you folks deal with the fact that your PMs have to either rise about 20-40% (depending on where you’re buying) or that society has to collapse just in the exact way you’re expecting in order for you to break even, should you actually need the money you put into it?
Sure, long term (10 years ++) it’ll work out, so that’s why I’d only put in amounts where I’m sure I won’t need them, but there’s a few folks here that appear to have a lot of their wealth tied up in PMs. What’s your game plan?

>>27799528
yes you can! though most of the illegal gold stays in the camps in fact, it gets used as currency as no one in the camps trusts paper. Its mainly used to buy drugs but anything is for sale for the right amount of grams.
>>27799349
there was a documentary done by CBC of all producers in the early 2010s on this but it quickly vanished due to how grim it was. Vice tried to get access to the mines but the locals wanted to buy / kidnap the female journo they sent down.

>>27799498

Madman, you took 100oz of silver before the shortage? How many more ounces are you planning to collect?

>>27799639
Gold is kinda expensive, can I buy suffering in silver?

>>27799649
Gameplan? HODL.

Simple as.

>>27799649
>What’s your game plan?
You just described most people's game plan

>>27799649
I'm a small time stacker and I'm doing it partly for the addictive nature of gold and silver, partly as a retirement plan as most coins will hold some value, despite fluctuations they will never lose value.
And if the price skyrockets, I'll just be lucky.

>>27795046
SHALL

>>27799458
>100M in debt
Where are you seeing this? I pulled up their Nov 2020 FS and am not seeing that much. In fact their balance sheet looks solid. Am I looking at the wrong company?

>>27795424
Stay strong! Why do you think silver is being beaten down so much? Because the ((banks)) want to keep silver prices down! We just have to keep buying as much as we could afford because they cannot manipulate silver if it is in our hands and possession.

>>27799727
Are the silver mines like this?
I want to buy suffering but gold is expensive.
And I have to imagine quite a bit of the illegal gold gets fenced and made into coins.

>>27799822
>I'm doing it partly for the addictive nature of gold and silver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZKrQwNAhEU
https://youtu.be/2SWMmxGiwgQ?t=95

>>27799841
Yahoo finances, the balance sheet tab looking at total debt. But wait a minute am I seriously fucking retarded. Total debt: 100.109, this is 100k not 100M? Didn't notice that there was "." thought it was ",". So they have practically no debt and I was just a blind retard?

>>27799832
NOT

Had a decent history teacher in uni b4 I dropped out. His grandpa was alive during then. Feds came to his farm demanding his precious metals. He said he would kill them if they ever came back.

>>27799649
>What’s your game plan?

>>27795424
all it means is more chances to keep stacking at insane prices
even at $200/oz they're paying you to take it away from them

>>27800031
Holy based. Where is this energy nowadays?

Why does this shit look like its melting???

Could it be? Could it be another example of
>T O T A L L Y
>N O R M A L
>M A R K E T
>A C T I V I T Y?

>>27796716
>Send help I am obsessed with libertads
Me 2

>>27800018
I would recommend going directly to a company's website and getting their financial statements there. Every public company has to publish their FS quarterly and that will be your best source of info. As of Nov 2020 it looks like they've got 11M in cash and 1.2M in total liabilities. I dont know anything else about Irving but just looking at their balance sheet they've got a good stack of cash on hand and few liabilities

>>27799944
>i want to buy suffering
Jesus Christ thats grim but yes there are silver mines in CAR and Congo which work pretty well the same way, a population of slaves work a mine for their freedom. You can also look at the Garimpeiros of Bolivia and Peru. These guys work for free in exchange for one day a month where they can mine as much ore as they can for themselves as payment. Many die before the age of 25.

>>27799742
Idk, I'm just finishing paying off debt. Probably stuck renting for another few years but wanting to buy ag zoned land outright while also considering going back into debt and buying something now. Silver seems like a better place than USD to park the disposable income for the time being as what I'm really worried about is money printer brrr.

>>27794806
PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT. LOOK AT THEM. THEY'RE STARVING

>>27800245
Thank you. I pulled the same document out as you and found the same figure 1.2M in liabilities. That makes so much more sense. Still wondering where yahoo finances gets their number since it is obviously way off.

>>27800126
Stacking boomsticks in addition to precious metals I see

>>27800197
Wow

>>27799995
I didn't really like the movies but the dragon with his coins was kinda cool.

>>27799649
I went on an anthracite coal mine tour in Scranton and it wasn't even that deep, still surreal. I miss caving.
>>27799777
You betcha, thankfully suffering is measured by weight so you get more bang for your buck

>>27800151
I hope to carry this level of defiance when they come for my shit. But only time will tell if I am that kind of man. Till then I'll listen to IRA, CSA, and Rhodesian music.

>>27800381
Boom sticks and Precious Metals go hand in hand.

>>27800383
I agree. I think the original trilogy was better. The Hobbit trilogy wasn't a complete waste of time but it didn't need to be stretched out into three parts. Peter Jackson was just milking it at that point

What would a 'market loss' charge be if I were to cancel an order after spot price increased 3%? Not decreased since order confirmation, but increased in value.

>>27800126
That Luger and Dragonov

>>27800506
How else are you gonna shoot the guy trying to take your stack?

>>27800348
Yeah that's a pretty big overstatement kek. Maybe Yahoo wants to keep the price down and buy some shares kek. Theres so much financial info out there and can't always rely on a third party to aggregate every bit of data perfectly. If you're doing some DD on a company, check out their site, download all their FS and any press releases if they have any. Maybe it can be tedious but I used to be an auditor so its kind of fun to flip through and see what each company is up to

>>27800506
Yep

>>27796080
I need me a Shinobu silver coin.

>>27800832
same

>>27800605
When you are trying to value something else as currency than the USD, you have to have the means to protect it from the US military, which is the only thing that backs the US as reserve currency around the world. Alternative currencies are a threat to US hegemony, which is why crypto"currencies" aren't a threat; if they were a threat, they would already be neutralized and regulated into oblivion with all the armies of lawyers in America mobilized for total war against crypto. They can't do that with gold and silver. Even when Roosevelt issued orders of confiscation, they weren't able to take it.

I am going to finish watching this old flick again than head to bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8jney2tU8o&list=PL-gbC_8efdJ1ICeFMSTuJVXfmfJWt4MZV&index=63

Some day i ll be the one to find old Slumach and Volcanic Brown's lost mine.

>>27800289
NO MICHAEL WOULD NEVER ABANDON HIS CHILDREN!
But if you insist I'd gladly adopt them from you.
>>27800247
guess I'll have to buy some silverbacks
But I have reichmarks, commiecoins, I even have an uncut blood diamond I got myself from Liberia, some child had it, he said he found it in the mine he works at and snuck it past the guards (I didn't ask how, it was already in my hand and I didn't want to know) I traded him some canned food for it.
Silver Eagles just don't have that kind of story behind them.

>>27794717
Got my first 30oz today. Ordered randoms and got one maple and a shitload of niue african lions and some canadian birds of some kind. Got 30 more oz in rounds coming soon. I'm officially astacklet.

>>27800794
This helps to explain the ammo shortage too. If each of those gun owners buys only 2 boxes of ammo, on top of every other gun owner trying to get ammo because of covid+riots= huge shock to the ammo supply.

/pmg/ don't scathe me but what would you do?
>Buy sealed Monster Box of Batbois last year for $9500
>Fast-forward to today.
>Confirm order for a second sealed Monster Box of Batbois, this time for $22000
What would the 'Market Loss' fee be if I were to cancel. Spot is up about 2% since I confirmed order. Feel like I'm getting raped at this price though. What would you do?

>>27801029
This is why the 2nd Amendment includes RPGs, HMGs, and F-16s

>>27801117
Call and ask if there is a cancellation fee. I'm sure there is no shortage of people trying to buy right now. They probably haven't even marked it for shipping yet with the delays.

I used to buy culled silver eagles for $12 each. I havent seen them since Corona. You idiots need to stop buying silver so I can have my coins back.

Looking at this for my first time purchase. Price is auscunt dollarydoos. Is this a good price?

>>27801117
Honestly since you already hit order, just fuckin sit on it. The fact that you spent the money must mean you're comfortable spending that amount, right? You spent $19/oz and $44/oz, so just think of it as 'I spent $31.50/oz on Batbois', which right now is a phenomenal price. If I could buy more batbois at $31/oz I would in a heartbeat.

They're not making any more of them, so the premium even a couple months ago was still obscene, and it'll probably only increase as we distance from 2020 and silver steadily raises.

>>27801310
>2,850.44 American Funbux
That's a decent price right now, considering the obscene premiums.

>>27800126
Lmao that looks like my tub and tile except my faucet is different. Fug I'm a poorfag

>>27801345
Very sound way of looking at it. You can still call and ask about cancellation so you have the option and the knowledge, but it would be best to keep them. Batbois will be high premium because of bat soup corona meme (even though that's not what caused a fake virus)

>>27801063
The new 2021 eagles will come with a sob story of how a poor oppressed womyn of color self-taught drawing and finally made it by having her design be minted on the new coins

>>27801240
>I used to buy culled silver eagles for $12 each. I havent seen them since Corona.
I bought a cull 1991 Eagle out of the cull bullion bin at my LCS back in the fall of 2019 to use as a carry piece. I doubt I'll ever see another cull Eagle in that bin again given the absurd premiums Eagles fetch now.

When silver moons I am going to move to Israel and marry a nice Jewish women.

>>27801581
So, pre-culled eagles?

>>27801703
>nice Jewish women
no such thing

night all! talk to you all later!

>>27801048
>Some day i ll be the one to find old Slumach and Volcanic Brown's lost mine.
I bid you comfy dreams of such escapades Pan Man. Goodnight!

>>27801760
Jews are our friends, they have been tirelessly suppressing the price of gold and silver so we can accumulate cheap. They do this because they care about us gentiles!

>>27801918
don't make me start posting that negev x kar98 strip

>>27802000
do it

>>27801029
But it will happen. After the next crypto crash, they will argue, crypto must be regulated in order to prevent more crypto related suicides... they will shut it down, for sure. They can't do that with pm, because people would not tolerate it and they know that, so they're now trying to keep the price artificially down to be able to buy most of the pm supply for themselves. Everyone owning gold and silver will get filthy rich in the end. They won't even care because, as I said, they will have bought most of it themselves

>>27801703
negev chan have puffy nipple booba. pp hard

>>27802316
Fun fact, most holocaust porn is produced in Israel.

>>27802408
Negev is not for lewds

Are goldbacks worth it for someone who doesn't live in UT, NV, or NH?

>>27802521
pink haired bitch

>>27802521

>>27802510
https://hitomi.la/reader/1476636.html#1

Reading this whilst listen to Peter Schiff is a fun experience, all stackers should do it!

>>27801918
>Jews are our friends, they have been tirelessly suppressing the price of gold and silver so we can accumulate cheap. They do this because they care about us gentiles!
The Jews and their ilk want to create a way out of their system with cheap precious metals so that anyone smart enough to realize their enslavement will have have a way of protecting their wealth when the currency collapses. Having metals cheap means that when the system collapses they can just say "sorry all your money's worthless goy, too bad you didn't buy Silver when it was so cheap, it's not our fault you were so stupid". When the current system comes tumbling down those who maintained their wealth through PMs will have to either join their ranks (while still being viewed as inferior), giving them new genes and us jewish wives; or get eliminated by whatever Golem they decide to sick on you.

>>27802802
I already have the whole thing saved, I'm just cropping out the porn.

>>27802675
I need to get some of those

>>27802885
I am just reading this gem now.

>>27802856
Based except for giving them new genes. Never give them the most vital resource they require to prevent their inbreeding from becoming their downfall. True PM chads will use their wealth to attract a high quality aryan girl to mate with

>>27802936
if it wasn't yuri shit, I'd be one of my favorites

>>27803084
>i'd
it'd

>>27802936
Well, I've got to go to bed.
Enjoy your new fetish and know that there is alot more holocaust porn out there, and a fair bit is exclusively in hebrew (make from that what you will)
Goodnight all!

>>27800126
I’ll take those flintlocks. Fits well with my pirate hat and treasure chest

>>27802856
While there's an obvious point about 'the weak/retarded/stupid should fucking up get fucked over if they fall for it'; I disagree with the active pursuit of making everybody fail, and only those with their feet off the ground not getting dropped.
It's one thing for everybody to be at 0, and retards falling to -1. It's another thing entirely to fuck with people to the point that you put a timer in which everybody will drop to -1 (retards falling to -10) and only the non-retards get the 'privalege' of staying at 0, while the people dropping everyone else to -1 go from to 14 to 15.

Pic related are the kinds of scams I remain ambivolent about. Crashing multiple world economies and peaceful societies, forcing millions into death and debt slavery to serve oneself via extreme corruption and nepotism - not so much.

>>27802802
That is by far one of the weirdest things I've ever read.
>>27803081
>True PM chads will use their wealth to attract a high quality aryan girl to mate with
There should be a good window to do this (as well as to get off the map if necessary) when the hyperinflation comes. Hyperinflation always comes in two waves one small first wave followed by a massive second wave. In between these two waves you should be able to get a high quality white girl just by showing you can provide for her through the coming economic uncertainty.

>>27794890
Really nothing. States have armies if they really want something. Miners could perhaps bribe officials, I dunno.

>>27795056
Then it isn't your stack. If you can't lick it, you don't own it.

>>27794717
Why did you remove:
>Good miners: $AG, $PAAS, $GPL

>>27801786
You probably won't see this before the new thread PAN MAN but this seems like your kind of thing:

http://actionsquad.org/ford.htm

Apparently there are a lot of mines/natural/man made caves beneath the twin cities. Any Canadian cities have anything similar?

ETA on next silver bull market?

>>27795424
And the use case of silver is???

>>27804126
2-5 years from now for moon market

The mint I get my shit from also offers diamonds. What's your opinion on these, should I consider stacking?

I know that it isn't PM, but I don't see these being discussed on /biz/ at all.

>>27803471
>It's one thing for everybody to be at 0, and retards falling to -1. It's another thing entirely to fuck with people to the point that you put a timer in which everybody will drop to -1 (retards falling to -10) and only the non-retards get the 'privalege' of staying at 0, while the people dropping everyone else to -1 go from to 14 to 15.
On top of all this people are taught a failing strategy for playing the game, indoctrinated constantly to spend and consume with no thought about the future.
I never said I agreed with this sort of scam (it goes way beyond even being called a scam), I was just describing how it will most likely play out.

>Forgot to put away 20 american eagle coins last month and forget where I put it
I can't get over this I made so much money in other places that it shouldn't really bother me but it does because I bought a tube of eagles like 3 years ago and a few months ago when I was counting everything I forgot to put it away and then I put it somewhere and forgot where. I've literally been tearing apart my house for the last month looking for it and it hasn't turned up. Silver mooning is really fucking with me I almost feel like I can't concentrate anymore since I have a giant knot in my stomach because I lost my stupid fucking silver coins. I miss them so fucking much. I just want my fucking coins back.

>>27804260
Lab diamonds are the equivalent of asteroid mining except that it actually happened for diamonds
It's not valuable now regardless of whatever De Beers' advertising says

>>27802351
They will go with environmental and crime angle. They will say that cryptos consume megawatts of energy and are used for criminal activity. They will also say that cryptos enrich Iran and China. They won't go after crypto holders they will go for miners. There won't be confiscation only shutdown of network.

>>27804479
I lost a 10oz propector bar that I picked up in the past 2 weeks and I'm kicking myself over it still. I hope it turns up. I've already searched my car and my room. I've visited my LCSs so many times that I've gotten less careful in transporting my silver and keeping track of it. I thought I was being careful enough but apparently not

>>27804648
Well yeah, why would they confiscate something that doesn't exist and is therefore intrinsically worthless

>>27804680
That fucking seriously sucks. If I lost $800 on crypto or stocks I would care less, but I guess since its a physical item ive had for awhile its fucking with me.

>>27801703
Realistically what do you expect it to moon to? Its previous high was $50

>>27794717

Anyone ever go prospecting and panning? I'm up in BC and was wondering if it's a fun/rewarding pastime.

I'm not expecting to find nuggets or thousands of dollars in a single outing -- but I am curious if there is any money to be found.

>>27795045
Lurk moar

>>27804724
Even if they decide that crypto is future they won't implement any existing cryptocurrency they will create their own. FEDcoin is go to but they also will need another currency for international trade. Their crypto will use centralized network and will be very regulated. This new currency might be backed by gold or another PM like pre 1971 dollar.

>>27804260
Diamonds are like the premiums game with coinage, but on fucking steroids. If you're into valuing a coin by year and limited releases - you'll love the autism that comes with the 4C's of diamond and general gem valuation (cut, colour, clarity and carat) - if not, you'll very easily scammed buying a shitty cut diamond or a mid-clarity for 120% above actual value.
If you really know how to squeeze a premium and market an item, then they're great for buying/selling in bullish economies for a side-gig if you've got the starter investment and time to learn (and even in bear economies - everybody in the West likes Diamonds, there's always a market for it, demand is a non-existant problem) - but ultimately we here at /pmg/ prefer our lower-effort bear economy profiting metals. Lumber and Bricks behave closer to PMs than Diamonds do.

Related is Houseki no Kuni; you'll probably like it given your own image and the topic (I get that it's somewhat well known, but just in case you or anybody else reading haven't heard of the only good 3D anime ever made, and wanted to see what /a/ can be all about past shounenshit and moeshit. This is a multi-disciplinary general, after all, no shame in testing the waters).

>>27797214
this is why they fear global warming
what really exists under antarctica?

>>27805034
Can somebody explain why synthetic diamonds are worth less than their natural counterparts?
I've only heard that they are too perfect and that sounds like bullshit made up by some de Beers employee.

>>27805034
whats the best way to get a cheap-ish diamond? i don't intend to profit from it, i just like the shiny rocks

>>27805200
tl;dr 4C's.
A synthetic diamond is like setting a machine to play a symphony or having two supercomputers play chess with one another instead of two grandmasters; while it might hit all the key notes it needs to, it lacks 'organicness'/soul which can't be replicated and which keeps masters of the field at the top (abstract shit, I know, but it's how it is). They're also very easily identified, which means that, past industrial usage, jewellers will call them out. If you're just after 'a' diamond, then synthetics will do the job (regardless of what autismos in the industry say). If you want a valuable diamond (the kind you can put in a ring, which is what most people are after), you're playing a different ballgame alltogether. That's why diamond drill bits and diamond rings are so far removed in value.

With high-priced gems, you're paying for exclusivity and the quality of that exclusivity. 1 Hope Diamond is worth millions, 50,000 Hope Diamonds are worth nothing. Furthermore, Diamonds aren't the only gem around, which is why gems like Emeralds, Rubies and (especially with the rise of the Chinese market) Jade are on the rise - all of which use the same general principles as Diamond valuation.

I have 200oz silver and 5oz of gold. What's my next purchase /pmg/? I have about $20k liquid to drop.

>>27805572
Ebay, probably
Get them used so it's at a discount

>>27805747
Sorry, that's 250oz silver, but it's a minor error so the point still stands.

>>27805747
Monsterbox of wieners.

>>27805829
Wiener

>>27805791
anything besides ebay? im banned even though ive never used it before
are pawn shops an okay bet?

>>27795369
It doesn't and /pmg is simply an echo chamber used for cope and hopium.

>>27805829
All my silver and gold is in Britannias for tax reasons, so unfortunately won't be able to buy anything else than UK legal tender. I'm asking more what quantities of gold and silver I should buy rather than what specific kind of gold and silver.

>>27805867

>>27805829
>>27805926
With that being said, a monster box silver Britannias does seem enticing... but I feel like I should add gold to my stack, but maybe it's sufficient as it is now.

>>27805747
5k of gold and silver every quarter for the next year at a 1oz gold to 100oz silver ratio, provided you can store the silver

>>27803948
they recently discovered a large natural cavern under either montreal or quebec city cant remember which.

These premiums are fucking ridicules

Not gonna buy before the hype is down

>>27803948
>>27806014
https://www.cbc.ca/news/multimedia/explore-the-huge-secret-cave-that-lay-hidden-under-montreal-1.4431920

Definitely add more gold, you should have at least 10oz.

>>27806107
Was I memed into the 1:100 XAU:XAG ratio by /pmg/? I thought that was the /make it/ ratio and not a 1:10 ratio.

>>27805955
Wrong Wiener!!!!!

>>27805572
Honestly? Jewllers or eBay. As a tl;dr on what you want to go in asking for, just look for a high carat (weight) diamond, then prepare your anus on how extra much you want to spend. A high carat / large diamond alone can be relatively (relatively, these are diamonds we're talking about here) cheap if you're willing to skimp on the other 3 C's:
- Clarity = How well you can see through it - crystal clear = more, but hyper-murky is also expensive too - somewhere in the middle tending towards murky is cheapest. Scratched up diamonds are also cheap to this end.
- Colour = What colour it is - transparent is expensive, tinted even moreso - the cheapest ones have areas which alter the light in a way that create translucent or even opaque areas
- Cut = How well it's made - finely detailed gem-shapes cost the most, raw hunks or gem/rock are cheaper

>>27806177
You should probably buy near the current ratio. If GSR is 1:10 it doesn't make sense for you to still be buying at 1:100

>>27805982
>>27805747
Buy 1oz of gold or a valacambi combibar 20g or 50g bar of gold. Helvetias/Swiss francs are nice too. The rest just buy silver. Junk silver is often good and cheap

>>27794717
When will COMEX collapse?

>>27799086
Rhodesia: First Time ?

>>27805747
All in Silver if you want to short it to convert it into more Gold when the GSR lowers more.
Gold/Silver 50/50 split if you can't be bothered with this shit, and just wanna leave it to appreciate with time.

>>27800931
Hopefully one day, a fellow autist on /pmg/ goes out his way to mint silvery weeb coins. He'd probably make a killing.

>>27806270
I hope soon.
Also don't forget about LBMA.

>>27806267
>valacambi combibar 20g or 50g bar of gold
I see the point of silver CombiBars in a bartering economy so you can pay for things of smaller value, but why pay the extra premium for gold combibars?

>>27805034
Fellow HnK chad. I ended up buying this bar >>27806398 because it reminded me of lunarian patterns.

>>27795518
>>27795424

I've sold a little bit of my shitcoins and ordered 2000 ounces of silver, mostly leaves and roos. Did I do good gramps? Hyperinflation is coming at us fast.

>>27806608
You see the shit the author just pulled
>Everybody's fucking dead and I'm putting this on hiatus for the next 10,000 years, have fun faggots while you wait with Phos
On one hand, I hate it, on the other hand, it's perfect. The suffering is fucking unending and I love it.

>>27806951
>2,000 ounces
>>>62 kg of Silver
Where you gonna put it?
I'm not throwing shade; just remember to post proof when it arrives, and convert most of it to Gold once the GSR lowers; Pirate King-san

>>27807125

Well they come in big cases so I figured I'd just start a treasure room and stack them up. Gold would be nice too but I have silver fever right now. I think I'll probably start buying gold when I have 10k oz of silver, which was why I started trading crypto to begin with.

First time buyer of physical metals and just got about 150k through gambling. I don't want to eat the bugs and just want to stay comfy at home now that it's payed off without worrying about inflation fucking my money. What is the most effective way to buy and not end up fucking myself?

>>27807326
Do you think crypto is heading down in near future?

>>27807020
Yeah. Ichikawa masterfully dragged us along a compelling story. Learning about the moon and its citizens, learning more about sensei. The power of prayer. All really great stuff. Can't believe it all lead to phos' perpetual suffering. (The true suffering is no S2) I actually really miss my happy go lucky phos. Seeing S1 and remembering where the manga is now is super shocking. It's also one of the few anime blu-rays I bothered to buy. I'm gonna go sleep now, friend. Hope to see you around /pmg/!

Do you guys have safes? A PO box? Some of you are pushing an amount I'd be very uncomfortable having unsecured

>>27807398
Buy from a proper dealer instead of randos on Ebay, keep it in a safe or go on a boating trip
Simple as

>>27807782
As long as everyone thinks I'm poor, it's fine.

Suggest me LEAPS on silver mining companies please
expire date 2022

>>27807398
I've been working on a guide for the OP (still in progress, since I wanna make it comprehensive so there isn't threadwars faggotry); but in short I'd say first, buy a single ounce of Silver, to get an idea for what you're getting into and how it works - then once you've got the hang of it, think of a portfolio/split.
Gold for the Hold, Silver for the Short. Gold generates slow, but guaranteed value; Silver is more volitile, doesn't grow over time as much, but in a crash is more likely to spike higher (at which point you convert it into Gold, and then wait until you need it to convert back to currency, or for a next crash to begin to build to repeat)
Look into what spot price is, get a general idea of premium over spot you're dealing with for physical then either get the cheapest at-spot metal you can, or for some countries you have extra things to consider (eg bongs don't pay a penny in tax if their PM is national coinage, so for them, it's worth paying a little more specifically for Britannias/Sovereigns)

Before >2020, my general reccomendation was 60/40 Gold/Silver; with a diversification into Palladium (over Platinum, Rhodium or Copper) as a tertiary if you 'really' wanted one. As of now, I'd say the same is still a safe bet, but putting more into the Silver end of your split would be much less risky.
Finally if you're going for bullion(bars), remember to get at least some coinage too, it's much easier to throw around 1oz (or in a Mercury dime, 0.1oz) for day-to-day liquidity than it is 1-10kg

>>27807502

It'll go up further first.

>>27795424
because of (((them)))

is it just dirt? doesn't really look like patina i think
how can I clean them? (if i should at all)

still waiting for my 10 oz delivery, the wait is killing

>>27806267
You should call those exact coins Vrenelis, not "Helvetias" or "Swiss francs".