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>thanks for applying. We’ll get in touch with you.

Cope harder

>>27407179
I have an engineering degree (mechanical) but I’ve been stuck at the same shitty company since graduation. All I want is a comfy wfh job with decent pay. I’m trying to figure out what I can learn to make it happen (AWS, web dev, python, whatever)
Wfh chads please chime in. I don’t want to get another degree and when I job hunt for engineering jobs I want to kms. Very rigid hours and I have to wear a mask in the office all day

>>27407763
Are you employed as an engineer? I am in the same boat as you, however, I'm seeing it's really typical to have a shitty job for the first few years of your career. Remember, it could be because of the state you live in.

you forgot
>five years of industry experience

>>27408166
Software dev so fucking bad
>Jr. web developer job
>at least 5 years of comprobable experience with node
Fuck this shit

>>27407763
I got a regular office job, built up a reputation, and then put in a request to work from home and it got approved. Same company, 4 years in the office, 6 years in another state. It might be easier to get a wfh job during covid, though.

>>27408166
I've learned something about this. Typically, they're trying to replace the guy who left the position with someone with similar credentials. If they previous guy worked about 5 years plus or minus a year, and he gets promoted or leaves the company, they'll look for someone with a similar level of experience, even if the previous guy started straight out of school.

This means is regardless of the 5 year requirement, if you apply - there's a fair chance some employers will follow up with you.

>>27407179

>Oh, it says here that your double master's degree in statistics and computer science isn't from MIT/Caltech/Berkeley/Ivies...sorry anon, we only hire people with human IQ here. I think you should apply for the residential cleaning service company we contract for, I heard the benefits are pretty good for the level of work you guys do.

>>27408775
desu I just ignore all of the requirements. Do I think I could do the job? If yes, apply. Takes fifteen minutes to write a cover letter and click the send button.

>>27407179
This complaint is almost old enough to drive a car

>>27408922
based

My job needed an associates degree and I pretty much lied about having one. Nobody has said anything for 2 years.

>>27408775
THIS

Keep in mind that the "requirements" are a wish-list, not exactly what they will hire.

>>27407763
For webdev you don't need CS degree for a job. Just show the recruiter you can build an app and solve problems and you're in. Best of luck, lad.

How long is long enough to work in a bitch level government job before you have decent odds applying elsewhere? I want to kill myself having spent the last 18 months after uni pulling covers off files and sending out Medicare confirmation letters to visa applicants who only come here to work illegally
I just want to get a comfy job where I can wfh full time, not this mind numbing bullshit

>>27408922
Do you lie? I have been having some trouble beacuse most positions that fit my interests ask for 5 year experience. I only have 3. Will it hurt a lot if I make some "time extensions" here and there?

>>27407179
anons here really dont have at least a BS or BS?

>>27409183
No need to make "time extensions", just apply.

>>27409093
Associate's degree is pretty much just a second High School Diploma that you pay for anyway

>>27407515
This shows that there are just as many intelligent people without degrees though.

>>27408166
This one hurts so much more

>>27408861
it never matters what your degree is or where it's from, it's all who your family knows

>>27409183
No I feel good about my resume; either they like it or they dont

>>27409333
Based trips. It’s not about lying that you have 5 years experience, you just ignore that BS requirement and sell them on your credentials

>>27407179
>What race are you?
>What gender are you?
>Preferred Pronouns?

>>27408861
>work at FAANG as an engineer
>no HS degree (GED)
>no college degree
top lel

How do you beat this boss lads?

>Entry level position
>2+ years of experience required
>Not a 9/5 mentality haha :)
>flexible
>ambitious, hard-working and analytical

>>27407763
I'm a civil engineer that somehow got a job as a power distribution engineer at a large power company. Best job hands down. I'm incredibly overpaid for what I do and what I know.

>>27407179
>entry level
>...
>bachelor's degree required
>master's preferred
>10 years of experience
Still haven't found a job after graduating in 2018. Was working landscaping until before the pandemic, and have been applying to jobs ever since. Gotten a few interviews, no job though.

>>27409373
It also shows that learning how to excel at standardized testing helps you do better on standardized testing. Pretty wild to think about

Jokes on you guys I have a bachelors in philosophy

>>27409744
fucking WHY

>>27408166
This one always blows my mind. I still apply to the 2-3 years experience anyways

>>27409744
Sorry lad, I'm kind of in a meme study, but philosophy is only above stuff like gender studies. Best you can do is maybe get a masters and work your ass off hoping that you can get a job at the uni there.

>>27407515
>1990
Great up to date statistics, retard.

>>27408166
>>27409709
>entry level
>5+ years experience required
>bachelor's or master's required
>starting pay: $13/hr

>>27409744
kekd n checkd mate

>>27408775
This, most entry requirements are genuinely bullshit. They're filters for people who don't have the confidence to apply. They want you to have some balls, when you apply even if you're underqualified, or don't have the retard attributes they're looking for, they'll probably still get back to you.

>>27407763
Just imagine this forever, I applied to this while shitting this morning and got rejected by lunch time.

currently clear over 1k a week after tax. fedex delivery boy

>>27409744
I was almost in the same boat as you, getting a degree in Political Science

>>27409744
based

>>27410063
Bro, honestly, it's kind of cool they even responded with rejection rather than leaving you in limbo.

>>27409889
these days you're lucky to get hired adjunct for <20k. Academia is fucked unless you're already rich

>>27408922
>Takes fifteen minutes to write a cover letter
U have any good examples? College courses only gave me cookie cutter examples and plebbit doesn't have any as well.

>>27407515
avg ivy leaguer isn't >120

actually interacting with these people it's fairly obvious.

>>27407179
that means very little if you are a good fit for the position they can just rewrite the requirements. I have had this done for me many times since i don't have a bachelors but still make 6figures.

>>27407763
>Philosophy degree
>struggle for years
>get fed up and start lying on resumes, get friends to act as references
>hired as a logistics analyst
>learn systems on the job and build a reputation
>get prompted 3 times in 3 years
>wfh for a year now making 75k

75k doesn't sound like a lot but I'm living in a rural area, nearly crime free, and my rent costs $700 a month. Dodged the marriage bullet too and saved up a nice nest egg.

>>27409808
>>27409889
>>27410114
>>27409978
>>27410210
The NEET life chose me. I’d rather sit around all day waiting for my internet coins to 10X than wagecuck again

>>27409183
If you have 3 years of experience then you don’t need to lie, it should be more than enough to land something asking for 5 years. Try changing up your resume if you’re not getting any callbacks

>>27410571
That'll be me once I hit my goal of 600k, after that I'm coasting until the day I die

>We are looking for a bright and talented individual for our intern program!
>Requirements: 4 year degree or equivalent work experience (please include references in CV), own car / driver's license, must be competent in C, C++, PHP, JavaScript, Java, python, nodeJS, HTML, CSS and Bootstrap

>>27407515
OH SHIT WE TRAVELED BACK IN TIME GUYS

>>27407179
>Entry level, trainee position (no experience necessary)
>Sorry, we went for the applicant with more experience who's been out of education longer

>>27409709
Unironically work for the government, they will hire you, state level will for sure at least.

I got a graduate job a year after graduating and start this summer. I don't even want to go.

>>27410383
Depends on the job; just tell them why you're interested in the job, what you have to offer them, and what you want to gain from your employment with them. The last part is important because it tells them that you're looking to build your human capital up and improve as a human being, rather than just show up to collect a paycheque.

>>27410961
Fucking HOW? All you have is that piss poor excuse of a website usajobs.gov and can't hear shit back from them for months.

>>27408499
you baseddevs don't deserve employment

>>27407763
Try get an internship somewhere maybe?

> graduated 2018
> interview in 2020
> hired beginning 2021
Got a pretty comfy gov job, was struggling beforehand. Only downside is that it’s not permanent but I have access to internal postings now. The hiring process is long for gov jobs. Could take several months.

>>27411365
>piss poor excuse of a website usajobs.gov
usajobs is a fuckin joke.

I have like 30 referrals and 2 interviews at usajob.
But what the other anon said. Try state level such as

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington

I have a degree in World Politics and graduated last May. I studied Japanese all 4 years of college, so I'm just living the NEET life with my parents while studying Japanese every day. Gonna get my N2 in either July or December and then probably look for a Master's program.

Life's good right now desu.

>janitorial job
>college degree preferred

>>27410063
Looks like you're not bLaCK enough

>>27409432
>I'm only poor because my family doesn't have connections
no, anon, you're poor because you're a whiny little bitch

>>27410536
Only in a rural area would you be able to lie your way through a job forever

>>27410536
Unfathomably based. Phil degree myself.

>>27410536
DISGUSTINGLY BASED

>>27407515
>1990
now adjust the demographics and data for 31 years in the future

it's over

>>27412385
>you'll do it for free

>>27410536
incomprehensibly based

>>27412678
>heh that's because us URBANITES are smarter, more sophisticated, a little more WORLDLY if you will
>*makes 10% more money but pays 20% more in cost of living*

>>27410536
>>get fed up and start lying on resumes, get friends to act as references
>>hired as a logistics analyst
>>learn systems on the job and build a reputation
>>get prompted 3 times in 3 years
see, I feel like I could do this easily if companies just took a chance on people and gave them the opportunity to learn and advance. I don't care enough to lie to get in, but it seems retarded to require degrees for stupid easy jobs that could be learned on the job. Seems like a lot of jobs are like that too.

>>27409947
>starting pay: $13/hr
lol yea forgot that part. I applied for a job that was unironically that and needed 4 interview parts; and I made it through 3/4.

>>27408922
I've done this a bit recently for jobs that I wanted. Got me some surprising results, no job though.

>studying multimedia design
>Want to get a job as a front end developer and work my way towards full stack
Give it to me plain, am I gonna make it?

>>27413740
No, poojets have already stolen your job.

>>27413740
>front end
lmao

>>27411146
>rather than just show up to collect a paycheque.
Thanks. Still cant believe employers still read cover letters

>>27413225
you have to think of it in terms of normies and the normie IQ continuum. the average normie that went to college is dumb. the average normie that didn't go to college is REALLY fucking dumb. >>27407515 it's basically a way to instantly filter out the type of people that stock shelves at walmart.

>>27413740
degree and courses are only worth the connections you can make.
You need an internship.

>>27407515
Niggers desu

>added to the "talentpool"
Who are you trying to fool you fucking HR fags

>>27407515
This is very outdated. Plenty of mcfucking kill me jobs are being staffed by college holders Some even business and accounting.

>>27413225
>Seems like a lot of jobs are like that too
All tasks from jobs that are publicly posted can be learned on said jobs.
t. knower

>>27410656
>Job description
>Candidate must a detail-oriented, innovative team-player
>Facilitate directives aimed at procurement SLAs between clients accounts and the service provider
>Work in conjunction with contingent workforce employees to further company goals
>Must have a proven track record of managing multiple accounts in a dynamic environment
>5 years relevant experience required
>Must be tri-lingual in English, Hatian Creole, and Esperanto
>Masters degree

Why are job listings like this, they don't even describe what the fucking position is

Guys, I finished my master's in mech e in november. I am working basically as a glorified secretary at my parents medical practice. I have only now started to apply for jobs in my field with no relevant work experience besides having a side business creating laser-cut stuff for etsy. While I enjoy my side hustle and want to grow it , I really just want to work in some engineering field as my main occupation. I am handy and can do all sorts of stuff just I feel that my lack of experience really makes for a lousy CV. How do I convince companies in the cover letter and CV to hire me?

>engineering college
>"dude if you dont like online school just get an internship you make like 30k in a semester
>get internship
>$14/hr
suicidal

>>27413740
Not worth the rope you'll hang yourself with

>>27410961
this, i work for the government and for the last 6 months i’ve literally just stopped doing my work for 3 days out of the week

need to find another job before they figure it out and fire me tho

Where I am from you need a PhD to have an entry level job, and if they let you get away with a master you need 5+ years experience on the field

If I learned anything from my post graduation applications and interviews then it's only with lies you will make it.

>>27414170
Prolly the nigga that uncoils wire and shit

>>27413740
If you're good, yeah.

>>27414170
It's important to understand that HR is somewhere between a company gate keeper and literal retards. So, virtually no one gets hired by HR through the HR system. Even worse, everyone sort of understands this already in the system.

For example, I haven't applied for a job in 5 years. I get jobs because people in my circle that I've worked with recommend me for positions. My first job I only got because I absolutely got fucked by a contracting company to get it.

>>27413208
>20% more in cost of living
>20%
What an incredibly generous number.

>>27412678
It took maybe 2 weeks of training to learn how everything worked. Then I learned excel, SQL and some other jazz over a couple years. I didn't lie about being smart, only the qualifications.

Also tfw you are stuck in a company and with a job which you don't have an affinity for. I am surprised I didn't get fired yet.

>>27414250
My guess would be telling them just how handy you are and how much money you have saved your employers in your past life as secretary

>>27413934
Degrees at this point are becoming the new (high school degee) I work with a girl who majored in history, another 3 paralegals with devry university degrees.I have no degree and I'm paid the same. Theres a program that gives you a FREE degree
>university of the people
>wgu university cost 7,000
I had a senior partner ex big 4 who graduated from an ivy league and he told me that degrees mean shit

REMINDER

>>27414170
Because employers can be sued if anything in the job description is perceived as discriminatory. Conveying actual information about the job is secondary.

>>27407515
>1990

didn’t realize we were on /pol/

>>27412135
I'll give state level jobs a try. I guess the federal jobs are only for veterans, kikes, kike's friends, and their kike friends, etc.

>>27414449
Sentinel Island?

>>27410063
>(like you!)

>>27414730
Once your in the door your fine, its not worth the resources to replace you unless you really fuck up.

>>27409683
Turns out to be a sales job where to hit your quota you have to work overtime every week.

>>27414612
HR should be remained to Human Removal Department as in remove the bad ones from the group. All these cumquads care about is protecting the company. Nowadays the best jobs are through referrals.

>he doesn't have a bachelors

>>27407179
>entry level position
>three interviews
>have to write a letter of motivation begging them for a $10/h job

>>27414612
This. I got my first job by completely bypassing the HR cunts layer and mailing the people inside the company.

>>27414612
It's true what they say, it's not what you know, but who you know.

4/6 jobs I've had in my life were achieved from having a contact already in a company.

>>27407179

>Secret Clearance required
>4 years experience preferred
>Must have at least 1 industry cert

>>27414959
Correct, and I make $22/hr sitting on my ass all day for the government. Literally cannot be fired.

>>27415429
what do you do?

>>27415336
That's me

>>27415510
Sits on his ass all day.

Substation tech $35/hr degree not required
What is the benefit of paying to go to college exactly?

>>27414736
aight bet

>cruise to BSc
>have an actual brain
>make decent money while working about 15 hours a week
codemonkeys itt might as well kill themselves

>>27415564
In the end you can make ok money writing bullshit papers as a phd. As an org psych practical bachelors myself I have no idea in what kind of craphole I'll land.

>>27407515

>>27414790
pretty based honestly. I’d do the same thing

>>27407515
I'm a sperg with an IQ of 137 and could not finish college because I am totally incapable of writing 30 page reports on bullshit like history, as required by the classes that were available to me at the time. I can communicate the exact same ideas in 3 pages but it's not "proper". I write so poorly my grammatical skills are eternally degrading because I rarely even talk to people. That, and I just can't fucking do work I'm not interested in or being paid for. I can not fucking fathom paying to do work I hate. College doesn't just select for intelligence, it simultaneously selects for the subservient and gleefully self flagellating. Exactly the kind of person a corporation wants in their offices.

After being kicked out my dad for fucking one of his horses (he thought it was the first time so i only got punched once, if only he knew lmao) I went from $3 to $70k net worth in a year and I never, ever intend to be a corporate slave. Death before servitude.

>>27415510
City Code Compliance, I'm basically a watered-down cop. I got the job because I did a few years at Amazon and don't mind getting yelled at, nobody actually yells at me because I'm the first non-woman in my department in a decade and I don't break out crying at the first sign of conflict.

>>27409947
I just started working with 16 and make 22€ an hour.

>fell for the accounting meme
>bs math, ms accounting
>3 years experience
>$70k/year in a high COL area (central NJ)

should have done an mscs instead of an ms in accounting. what a fucking meme.

>>27414790
Fuck it you'll inherit their riches anyway.

>>27416196
>paying for college
lmao
>literal horse fucker
Extremely based.

>have bachelors degree
>7 years experience in fortune 50 company
>ran my own business for 10 years
>covid fucked everything
>try to get job
>can't get anything for months
>finally get shit job for 12$ an hour

Sister:
>dropped out of highschool
>sporadic work history
>can't keep job for more than 6 months
>instantly get work from home job for 23$ hour after telling HR person sob story

>>27416407
Jesus christ, how do you fuck up that much? Just when I thought mathfags are big brains.

>>27409706
Tell me how. I’m a civil engineering major

>>27416488
Great justice approaches. I'm getting my own horses this year, and a livestock guardian dog (large female).

Just be good looking and hope your employer is a woman.

>Need work to gain experience
>Experience required to get work
Why

Go to college for history, realize that everyone in my class is a retard. I need to do better.
Get really into math, and get gud at it.
Switch to Comp Sci meme degree, first job out of school 65k.
5 years later make 130k, getting into CS was the best decision of my life.

>>27416196
Dangerously based

>>27414170
Because people who work in HR are self important cunts

>>27412678
There’s a containment website for midwits like you

>>27416685
Very very based, you're living the dream pal. I plan to do that too when I don't have to stay in a shitty city for work.

>>27408118
Yes. They handed me a job after/during graduation (I was an intern). It’s in manufacturing which is low paying too. Fucking sucks, feel like I’m missing out on design work because of this useless experience.
>>27409126
Yeah that’s why I’m leaning towards webdev. Started the Odin Project
>>27410063
I’ve applied to hundreds of positions. I’ve specifically taken vacation days to job hunt. I had close offers right before covid fucked it all up, no interviews since then.
>>27410536
Idk if I have the balls to lie too much but I’m considered going the software route and faking some skills to get an interview at least. Current job never trained me and I got by.

>>27416775
>be ugly
>literally only working so I can afford surgeries and then work in a fucking dive bar or something
Fugg.

>>27407515
So hyperintelligent people without degrees outnumber hyperintelligent people with degrees 2 to 1.
Disclaimer: I have a degree, just pointing out how fucking stupid you are for thinking this makes a point.

>>27408166
This one goes straight to the feels. I have a doctorate and was at the top of my class with excellent marks and all that bullshit. Worked in a lab during grad school and have been published several times in good journals, etc. Graduated and afterwards tried getting an industry job in my field. Was immediately treated like I was lower than dirt by everyone I was even able to get a measly phone interview with because "lmao you don't already have years of experience xD".

After wasting my time with this shit for months to no avail, the *BEST* I was able to even get somewhere with was some place on the other side of the company where they'd basically be paying college-intern-tier salary and even then it would only be a fucking 6 month CONTRACTOR JOB with zero benefits and absolutely no guarantees of even getting to stick with the company after. And in the likely event that that happens, I'm stuck on the other side of the country holding the bag. Fuck that.

>>27416856
try interning for free for a few years anon

>>27407179
feels comfy after weeks of grinding applications and networking during my last semester to have gotten a career job in my field of study

>>27407179
A bachelor's could be reasonable depending on the job and the pay, the real struggle is:
>Entry level position
>2-5 years experience (required)

>>27416196
jfc

>>27417125
>falling for the PhD meme
Stop browsing /sci/.

>>27407515
a degree in 1990 was significantly more valuable than a degree in 2020

>>27409744
Graduate with philosophy degree in may. Headed into finance when I graduate: financial advisor. Already spoke to a recruiter and interview next week

>>27417202
even internships are beginning to require experience now

>>27417244
and they'll sponsor a pajeet with those quals who will work for 20% or more below average salary.

>drop out of Uni because I hated the content and all the people there were faggots
>derp around for a few years
do a few HRW tickets + truck licence
>140k/y waging it up in the mines
>meanwhile Cv19 completely JUSTed all my mates with bachelors/masters besides the few that work for the government

What the fuck can someone with just a BA in Accounting do? I live in Cali and haven't even started looking for a job after graduating last semester.

>>27407179
More like
>Entry level position
>5 years experience required

>>27407179
Didn't know there were so many wage slaves on this board

>>27417688
Do your 2 extra semesters and become a CPA retard, why would you do an accounting degree without knowing the prereqs

>>27417688
Idk, be an accountant? Maybe an entry level job at one of the big tax chains.

>>27415957
>org psych
of course you have no idea what the fuck you're doing, psychology itself has no idea what the fuck its doing
shoulda gone for a scientific field instead of palm reading roastie central desu

>Boomer parents told me I need to go to college
>Now they're telling me college is a scam and I should go into trades

>>27407179
>Why are you interested in working with us?

>Junior Software Engineer
>Masters degree preferred
>5+ years experience with C, C++, C#, Objective-C, Go, Ruby, Python, Swift, PHP, Javascript, HTML, CSS, Rust, SQL, Perl, Java, R, Curl
>5+ years of experience in the aerospace industry
>DoD security clearance required

>Compensation: Competitive

>>27410536
get friends to act as references
This is where the plan falls apart for me

>>27417859

>>27418017
Get anons to be your references. What could go wrong?

>>27409706
Based. Keep the lights on Jack.

By the way guys if you want better odds, work with a headhunter. It sucks if you don't have the money to hire one but if you do have the money it's 100% worth it to not have to fuck around with sending out random applications and get rejected or not hear back. Sadly I didn't know about this when I was a NEET after college so I wound up joining the military (big mistake, don't do it). Also in the meantime anyone with a bachelors can work as a substitute teacher in most school districts without a teaching credential. Just be prepared for the call at 6 or 7am asking you if you're available to cover and be professional and you'll be okay. Again, something I didn't know when I was a NEET.

>>27417301
Yeah, don't fucking remind me. Should've just followed in my parents' footsteps and just been a fucking engi instead of falling for the medsci meme.

>>27417244
The problem ultimately boils down to "academic inflation" (for lack of a better term). At first, degree-holders were the cream of the crop and highly desirable, especially for professions where the specialized knowledge was genuinely necessary. But then everyone saw this and thought that literally everyone should get degrees so that they could be successful as well. All this ended up doing was devaluing education with an overabundance of degree-holders. In addition, because there were so many prospective hirees with college education, this meant that employers would immediately filter anyone without a degree, even for jobs that don't really need one, because why the fuck not. Suddenly jobs that used to be done by people with a HS diploma right out of school suddenly need a bachelor's and several years experience for a starting position.

And honestly, when it comes to these a lot of these jobs where the college education isn't actually necessary at all to do the work, it's better to just straight-up fucking lie about it. Just put on your CV that you got a bachelors in whatever from wherever. No employer (besides government jobs) is ever going to do a background check on that shit. Same goes with work experience. Just fucking make it up. They won't check it, and it's the only way nowadays to make it.

That's the only way I was finally able to manage a decent job.

>entry level position
>3 years experience needed
what did they mean by this

>>27407515
>No quantitative sample size
>Sample mean for graduates is almost half of population mean.
>Mean is less than one standard deviation away from population mean.
>Population mean is less than 0, meaning there is another population that is not listed that is acting as the fucking mean.
>The fucking mean of the graduates of the top dozen universities is so small that its outliers can drag the average all the way to the fucking sides.
Who is the retarded masturbating monkey that made this graph?
t. stats minor

I did just apply to an entry level job that'd be unironically 3 minutes from my house that's in my field.
>entry level
>50k - 60k
>full time
>engineering/physics
>full benefits
Truly hope I can at least get an interview for this one.

>>27417887
>Monero

>>27407763
I have an EE degree and I couldn't even get a job cause my grades were shit and I can't even do a Masters. Went into this cause I wanted to design circuits but nobody lets you touch that stuff unless you have a PhD. Now I'm doing a 6 month post-grad software diploma thing and mogging all my 3rd world classmates

>>27417859
I don't have experience in this, but apparently trades are a non-starter now too. Plenty of people all knew about the "college is a scam except for STEM, bro! just go into a trade!" thing even back when I was in highschool in the late 00s. It's completely priced-in over the past decade and those trade positions have completely dried up. Good luck getting them.

I don't understand how you guys have such a hard time finding a job. I got a bachelors in English and found a job right out of school working at a software company, then left a year later to join a medical company. I have less marketable skills than any of you, so maybe it's just you guys? Please help me understand.

>>27410571
This is want I want to do as well because I know I'll never be able to play the career climbing game. Unfortunately I need a job first so I can afford to invest. I'm in school now and I'm dreading my eventually job hunt.

>>27417824
His problem is that he needs 150 credit hours to take the actual test.

>>27418380
My 18 year old cousin who's not book smart at all had a job throughout his last year of highschool as an electrician and now has steady work and his employer is paying for him to get his certifications.

>>27418460
Some people legit just get lucky, while others have to apply for a year even if they meet most of the qualifications.

>>27417893
Senior Software Engineer here,
Take a bunch of Udemy courses and make some shit web dev portfolio. Then Lie about contracts you did with people, say they are confidential and you cant expose much about the client.
LIE LIE LIE
I know webdev is not glamourous and is for brainlets, buts its a good foot in the door for software engineering.

>Construction Engineering B.S.
Every entry level job at a general contractor is 'Project Engineer' or 'Assistant Project Manager'
>1-5 years experience required
Just trying to get a job in Dallas to be with my girlfriend gahdamn

>>27418570
wtf how many credit hours is a BA in Accounting?

>>27418460
Its because youre handsome and all the boys want to get their hands on that jar

>>27418460
how the fuck did you get hired at a medical company with an English degree? unless it was like mega entry level that's not just something you can self teach

>>27407179
My life in a nutshell.

>>27414250
My god how does someone go all the way through a master's without getting a job in the field? I'm so screwed. I am almost 30 and still working a a bachelors in engineering tech. Not even full engineering. Why is it so hard to get a job? They are asking me to know so many complicated things and apparently all this knowledge is useless?

I'll have a shitty HR job but I'm thinking about selling small amounts of yayo to friends in the weekends and buy slow ETF's. All in minecraft ofcourse.

i'm going to have to get an mba to get a shitty analyst job aren't i

>>27418460
I don't get it either. The way people talk about job hunting honestly terrifies me. I can't fathom how it could be this bad, if it really is this bad, why aren't people freaking out?

>>27407763
>analytics degree
>only jobs pay 17-22/hr

>>27418913
>HR job
I'm castizo (mom is spaniard), if I put down that I'm hispanic would that unironically increase my chances of at least being noticed?

>>27409183
No because if it's a decent company they'll hire a background checker and follow up on your claims. If they find a discrepancy they'll flag you for life and any other companies that use the same background checker will know too. This isn't a gas station job you're applying to anon.

>>27418596
I mean yeah that makes sense.
>>27418783
Eh I'm pretty average.
>>27418830
It is pretty entry level, so it's not like I'm getting paid big bucks or anything. Just happy to have a job honestly. But I mostly do editing on the reports we send to the FDA all day. It's a comfy job.

>>27414170
with corporate jobs, it's really the inmates running the asylum. Imagine you have a department that amounts to a grown-up version of a preschool daycare. Now imagine that these toddlers are the ones in charge of arguably the most important part of a company, which is hiring. That's what the HR dept is. A bunch of immature hormonally-challenged roasties who hold the keys to both your future and the future of the company.

>>27418887
Here we have a saying that you go to uni to study, yet the moment you get out there everyone wants experience.

>>27416617
Get a job at any utility company and try to transfer to their power division

>>27414918
not to mention the totally-not-mandatory after hours teambuilding meet ups. Don't you want to get some hip new microbrews with the office, anon?

>>27407179
>2 years of work experience
>positive mindset
>team palyer
The last place I sent my cv to made me do this stupid psychological profiling test online. Then they never contacted me again. I probably gave shizo answers. It was some sort of costumer service wageslave job btw.

>i am a CS graduate with one year of experience, i studied at [uni] in Mexico and come from a poor family, im also bisexual (read: i like hot chicks and traps like 90% of 4chan)
How far could this get me in the USA? Im brown as fuck too for bonus diversity points

Not surprising that a lot of graduates suffer from depression

>associates degree in philosophy, planning on getting bachelor's if I get enough scholarships to cover over half of tuition
>still a wagie making $3/hr
>$1200 to my name

If I can make it, all of you guys can too

>>27416407
Just teach yourself to code. I have an MSCS and sometimes wish I did accounting instead. You can’t teach yourself to become a CPA but you can teach yourself to code

>>27419408
>Mexico
You could work at most landscaping or seasonal laborer positions for less than minimum wage.

>>27419408
How does CTO of Google sound?

>>27419480
$13 not 3, might as well be though

>>27419408
You just have to complete with the other billion brown people that want to live here. Honestly you are better off wherever you are now, this place is a shithole.

>>27419143
Hell yeah. Use every advantage you can get.

>>27419347
kek, I remember those stupid psychological profiles that online applications would make me do back when I was in HS/college trying to get low-tier wageslave jobs.

Never quite knew what they wanted. I always assumed the correct answers were to always pick the ones that scream "I'm an unthinking worker drone who sucks infinite cocks"

>>27419143
Not a bad tactic, even if you're 100% bavarian phenotype. Just claim your mother is from cuba or wherever the fuck, and it's not even like they're really going to dig into sensitive stuff like race anyway. Easy way to game the system.

I basically gave up and joined the police force here in cuntland.

>Job security
>$70k usd a year equivalent with 6 weeks paid annual leave + regular compassionate leave (dog got sick need a week off to take care of it).

meh. It's all so very tiresome.

>>27407179
They put entry level on it, not because it is entry level, but just so they can pay you wages which are lower than your value. If you see entry level but degree or yrs of experience required, ignore them. They won't pay what you're worth.

>How familiar are you with my software pajeeto7 only I use it

>>27419492
i'm teaching myself full stack (MERN stack) but i doubt i'll ever be able to find a job without a BSCS. entry level is so fucking saturated.

>>27419065
I've convinced myself most people like this are either retards that didn't really develop any skills or people that refuse to settle for the golden entry level jobs with 25/h

>>27407515
you gotta be stupid to shill college

>>27416617
I started in transmission line engineering. They hire civils. You can then transfer to whatever you want once you’re in the company

>>27419408
>Im brown as fuck too for bonus diversity points
The Jewish HR cat lady will love you.

>>27419638
>>27419816
I did on my last job app.
Being a NEET is fun and all but having a job I actually would enjoy that pays well would be amazing.

>>27419143
Depends on where you live and what company. I live in Europe and if you put that shit down with me I'd kinda cringe bro. I don't allow positive discrimination. Same with black people applying and telling me they organize local blm events in freetime. We want harmony and no chances on political conflicts between coworkers. Any kind of politics or race stuff is a no-go.

>>27419823
Guessing you're in Oz or NZ. Probably easier being a cop there than managing free-range gorillas here.

>>27407515
Lol I'm in the 3rd percentile and I almost didn't finish hs.

>>27420147
Clearly in the USA, where that shit is eaten up by HR departments.

>>27417798
FUCKKK as stupid as it sounds I don't wanna dedicate anymore time and energy to this career path.

>>27407179
You know, that's all a part of the wider plan. They are doing everything they can to get you to go to (((University))).
Whites should boycott universities.

>>27409183
You don't lie, anon. You bend the fuck out of the truth.

>>27410466
Getting good grades is more about persistence than intelligence

>entry level position
>PhD and 30 years of experience required

>>27418121
I was thinking about commissioning. Which branch did you join and why did it suck?

>>27409183
You can put almost anything on your resume as long as you can bullshit through it during the interview(s).

>>27419646
I was a bit too honest with my answers

>>27420295
I'm not a racist but that stuff not good for objectivity. It's plain positive discrimination.

>>27409373
yeah, there will always be rare geniuses either way

>>27419646
>. I always assumed the correct answers were to always pick the ones that scream "I'm an unthinking worker drone who sucks infinite cocks"
Correct. Those were and are the correct answers. Dealing with NPCs at any level of NPC society necessitates tactics like this.

>Bachelor's in Marketing
>Job searching for over 8 months now
>Can only get offers from shit companies looking for 100% commission-based salesmen
>Gave up and applied to cooking positions
>Somehow convinced a business to give me $16/hr to cut vegetables and make burgers
Could be worse. I'll ride this out for a bit

>>27413225
>took a chance
Why the fuck would a company take that risk
That’s like complaining that a girl on Tinder won’t give your 6/10 ass a chance when she has 8/10’s competing for her

>>27420671
marines
slow promos but kick ass uniforms

>>27409093
Do they ever really check for mid level jobs? I was going to go back to school for a bachelors but I have 2 years work experience as a developer at this point, if an employer's going to be checking up on me I assume they'd be more interested in my past job than school I "completed" six years ago

>>27420909
marketers are a walking cancer on this Earth but I hope you find a nice job soon anon

>>27407763
Bro, fuck all this shit. You're smart enough to go live on a wooded mountain and literally create your own tribe. Think about it. Your people will worship you as an envoy of the Gods for building a mill.

>>27420909
>college graduate cutting vegetables
Why the fuck is college still a thing? That's humiliating. I am not trying to insult you but this is fucked up.

>>27421454
Clown world.

>>27421454
Marketing is tough to get into, you have to be sociopathic or extremely charismatic to get a good position in the marketing field. It's just a case of retards getting degrees in fields they aren't suited for.

>>27407179
>entry level
>associate's degree and 5 years of experience
>no, a bachelor's can't be substituted for the experience

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>27421890
I suppose but it should be impossible to get a degree in something you aren't good at. I just want our higher education system to have some integrity. It's tragic the way it works right now.

>>27417588
>HRW tickets
?

>>27417125
This is what I'm afraid of. I'm in final year mech eng and my academic supervisor is basically trying to groom me into going straight into a PhD with his research group. The money is shit though, like 16k euro a year, and I am so fucking done with uni after the last year of doing it entirely from home. Have an offer for an entry-level job with a start-up I interned for so will take that and MAYBE do a PhD in a few years. But ya it seems like experience beats all else.

>>27407763
>>27408118
Engineers are a diamond dozen these days. We barely pay over $60k for engineers at our company. I work in NDT/QC and I make what the engineers do. At level 3 I will be their boss and make even more. I test out this year for the certification, hopefully.

>associates degree in liberal arts that took me four years to get
>27$/hr
could be worse I guess

>>27422077
>it should be impossible to get a degree in something you aren't good at
Getting a degree in marketing shouldn't be hard, a degree in marketing is basically just a certification. You can get a good job in marketing without a degree but a degree will increase your earning potential.

>>27420263
anon.... you know what percentile means right?
I mean it would explain a lot

How long have you stayed at a job before job-hopping?

>>27409808
>degree in philosophy
>why
Kek. Underrated pun

>entry level position
>years of experience needed
are you guys dumb? it's to weed people out and so that HR doesn't have to work hard sifting through ridiculous amounts of resumes

>>27420807
>positive discrimination
Jewish terminology

>>27422354
what do you do, and what did you major in? lit major 2019 here.

>>27420446
I got out of that shit after managerial accounting. It’s not bad but it’s all worker bee type shit

>>27422685
>implying billion dollar corporations don't automatically filter out 98%+ of resumes with machine learning programs

>>27418700
120, but you need 150 to be a CPA, so most do masters degree

>>27422696
If you didn't know by now HR are the literal Jews in a company and I'm about to join em.

>>27421271
Thank you anon. I found that out when I tried insurance sales.
>>27421454
You're telling me. Corona killed my first marketing job in March 2020 before I could even work my first day.

>Philosophy and Poli Sci degree from top 15 public Uni
>Graduated in 2019
>Worked as a bartender till the coof BTFO me in march
>Jobless since
What the fuck do I do?

>>27417125
just fucking lie thats my new thing whatever they need i just fucking lie

>>27407179
>they require you to be a confirmed bachelor

>>27410536
What do you mean get friends to act as references? Ask them to pretend to be companies you worked for?

>>27421083
>marines
>slow promos but kick ass uniforms
Fuck that. Go Chair Force for most comfy, high paying jerbs. At least Army

>>27418221
If you tell them you live three minutes away, and you prepare for the rest of the interview well, I think they'll probably give you the job. Good luck anon

>>27407179
Walmart Co-manager here. I want to do a backflip everyday, but make 80k plus another 70k in bonuses every year

>>27423403
I was a suicidal psycho, wouldn't recommend to the ones who like themselves

>>27423569
Imagine thinking this is a good salary. If I was applying to a job and the person giving the interview told me that they couldn't offer me at least 6 figures I would laugh in their fucking face.

>>27409093
I didn’t graduate high school - I’ve been lying on my res the last few years. I’ve got a bachelors in “psychology” lmfao. These faggots never check, but it is uncomfortable if anyone brings it up. I have to promptly change the subject

>>27422908
how to take test? it's so complicated. i switched majors so I think I have the 150. can't figure out how to sit for the fucking exam without being handheld by a decent company.

i work in fucking accounts payable, someone kill me. its wfh doe

>>27409584
>Preferred Pronouns?
Lord/Sire

>>27423199
>>Philosophy and Poli Sci degree from top 15 public Uni
why would you double major in two useless degrees? although I can understand philosophy if it was your passion (mine was literature and I regret it every day)

>>27423739
I'm 22 and live in buttfuck nowhere Oklahoma. Anything above 30k in this region is "good". Nice houses cost less than I make yearly

>>27409584
>Prefered pronouns?
Sultan/Excellency

>>27407515
>1990

>>27423472
Thanks. It's a good job in the optics field too. It'd give me great experience and a title that has engineer in it which is good for other prospects later.

>>27407179
Software Developer here, stop looking for a company to give you a job and create a job for yourself instead. That's what I did and I am making x5 the national average of Software Developer salary.

>>27407515
obviously more intelligent people go to college... what surprise is that? and you should know these graphs are no absolutes and there will always be exceptions. retard

>spend hours a day applying for jobs
>actually get an offer
>get nervous and decline

any math majors here? what's your job i have no idea what to apply for

>>27422106
High risk work.

Meanwhile you could have bought CLF

>>27416514
>>27416514
>>27416514

>>27407179
>Am studying for Business management degree
Am I wasting my time?

>>27424412
looks like Derek zoolander doing "blue steel"

>>27407179
>must have 3 years sexual experience

>>27414250
Why not include pictures of your side projects?

>>27418597
ew fucking fat bitch
you literally can't find her pussy

>>27422254
>engineers get $60K a year
>mfw my business management degree makes more

Jesus, man. I clear around 80K managing a national chain restaurant and get 18 year old hostesses and waitresses swooning over me.

>>27424890
>Jesus, man. I clear around 80K managing a national chain restaurant and get 18 year old hostesses and waitresses swooning over me.

>>27407179
Try pretending to be a chad
>go to college for 2 weeks for free cool class
>put on resume
>find out I might get fired because me and a coworker broke up and she mad
>get interview with new job next day
“Uh, is this correct you went to college for only two weeks? You really want a job here with that kind of resume?”
“Yes.”
>fast forward a year later and I’m pulling 80k a year at 23
>currently sitting at my desk at work right now drinking a Monster Ultra shitposting on my free corporate phone
Feels good mane

>>27424890
Even though I am not in the professional world just yet, I'd say that is a bit misleading. There are a lot of different jobs an engineer could do. I doubt those engineers are doing anything very complicated. Personally I'd love to make 60k a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xL9VLARq8k

Relevant

>>27416051
Shit man. This made me laugh and draw the attention of people on the other side of our empty building.

>Have to do an internship for free at a place of work (because that's how the government funds college in the UK)
>Everything was either marketing where we had to design everything and had absolutely no relation to what I was studying (computing) and sitting at an office desk in some building trying to be hip with Twitter and Social Media
>Ended up going with a Special Needs School, actually kind of a nice place
>Managed to get in because they need all the manpower they could get (The whole of the school was being renovated and all the electronic equipment and laptops were going from Windows 8.1 to 10)
>Spent most of my time just updating laptops from new SSD installs to Windows 10, setting up privileges and proxy stuff along with install LEGO software
>Requirements to work for free were to have experience in I.T Support and at least a prior experience of working with mentally challenged kids
I didn't list a single thing that really made me stand out at all so I guess I made a good impression when I went to see them on my own time. Then again, maybe you faggots gave me what I needed in terms of experience.

It was simple and boring though. I only learned something that was so small and really not worth it all. Best part is that none of it counts anymore because Corona struck and they had to let me go.
I wasted 3 fucking months working for free to get absolutely nothing to put on my CV.

>>27424518
I'd get out of that degree if I were you

>>27407179
>Bachelor's Degree
Basically fancier toilet paper

>>27409947
its actually
>starting pay: Competitive
I don't know how or why this is legal.

>>27423852
Philosophy was my passion. I just tacked poli sci on because I could do it without exceeding regular credit limits/tuition. I also do like learning about foreign policy. Dunno if I should learn to code or just double down and study for the LSAT.

>>27407179
computer science !!!

I curse every day I did my bachelors and even more so continuing with my master's. I don't even like the subject, I fucking hate it. University is a scam and fuck boomers for scamming me.

>>27420671
Navy. OCS was basically abuse and everyone's been a lying shitbag since then. I hate working with other officers and I hate working with chiefs, everyone's just shit and lazy. Best time I ever had was driving the aircraft carrier around and working closely with the junior enlisted (even though most of them were lazy shits too).

It's really not worth it. I've already had my resignation refused once and now I have to wait another 6 months to apply to resign again. I'm basically literally a slave of the government until they approve me quitting.

>Unpaid Internship
>Requires B.Sc.

Media Production major here. Life will be bad when I graduate but at least it's fun :)

>live in Canada
>get a bachelor's degree in English Lit because Biology was miserable
>work while in school because if I was pursuing an arts degree, I knew I couldn't afford to have debt
>graduate with $1000 in debt, paying like $15 a month for it
>got a shitty entry level dead-end job for 2 years
>quit it just before covid because I was sick of it
>haven't had a decent job since, just temp warehouse work to keep afloat
Where do I go from here, bros? My situation isn't as miserable compared to some people ITT, but it's pretty bleak

>>27407515

>>27409744
>forced to go to uni after high school by parents
>coerced into engineering, couldn't stand studying 60 hours a week with no money to have fun whenI get off
>only interested in history and philosophy, a field that is guarenteed debt slave after gradution. droped out from depression and have been a NEET with on and off factory jobs since.

I hate this world so much, why is uni so expensive? I might go back for buisness (even though I dont want to) just to MAYBE pass the bachelors barrier for a decnet job so i cna pay off the debt if they let me go back, but this is total BS.

>>27418563
im in my last semester of uni. the days of waking up late and playing vidya are coming to an end for me. that is UNLESS my masters application comes through. but yeah, pretty dreadful.

>>27426887
why not just get an 8 month to 2 year certification or diploma for some kind of applied skill, and make $22/hour starting. If you're going to work shitty blue collar jobs, at least get paid to do it, you can read philosophy in your spare time

>>27426961
>the days of waking up late and playing vidya are coming to an end for me.
What fucking college are you going to? My college experience has been brutal.

>>27427121
Depends entirely on your program, and whether or not you're an expert at faking it or cutting corners. Towards the end of college I had a sixth sense about what was going to be on exams, especially for electives, and would do very minimalist studying for exams, and would usually come out with at least a B. That being said, I was in an Arts program, and when I took a few science courses, I actually had to be a bit more diligent.

>>27426887
It's a fucking clown world. I fell for the uni meme too and an overrated business degree thanks to my siblings who talked me out of taking other majors that were more interesting and useful

How hard is it to find an engineering internship with 2.89 gpa? Im a senior btw

>>27416196
>incapable of writing 30 page reports on bullshit like history
dude lmao where did you go to college? I got a BS from one of the best schools in the country and my longest paper was like 10pgs. And most of them you can just bs with fluff until you hit the word limit anyway.