/biz/ - Business & Finance

>Think 10k isn't possible
>Still push for it anyways with religious zeal
>10k becomes possible
>Immediately get hit by a crippling wave of depression knowing that if I do sell my GME for 10k and get hundreds of thousands of dollars that I just made more money from jerking off and shitposting than I ever would've from working a regular job

>>27312154
>TLDR; We're probably not even buying and selling actual shares of GME. When it looked like GME was "on the ropes" and there was a good narrative of why they should go bankrupt naked short sellers likely naked short sold an unknowable amount of fake "IOU" shares of GME because they thought it would for sure go bankrupt. This plan has worked for them hundreds and hundreds of times in the past making them hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars. Some high profile examples include: Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. When these sharks smell blood in the water nothing is stopping them from naked short selling tens of millions of fake shares (over 100M in the last three days of Lehman Brothers) to innocent buyers who think they're getting a good deal which ultimately go to zero and equate to an infinite profit margin for the short sellers. What they didn't expect with GME was a bunch of retards doing what we've done over the past months and exposing their fraudulent naked short selling. We have no way to be certain how many shares are actually out there but /u/johnnydaggers post shows there was 1.7M shares failed to deliver in December (before shit even hit the fan). The thing is this threatens to undermine the publics confidence in the entire system. How do we know that the shares that we think we are purchasing are actually legit? We could literally being paying good money for something that doesn't actually exist. What this means for GME is someone is going to have to step up and actually pay up for all of these phantom shares that aren't even supposed to exist. What price they will pay nobody knows.

HOLY SHIT THIS IS BIBLICAL

>>27312336
>>Immediately get hit by a crippling wave of depression knowing that if I do sell my GME for 10k and get hundreds of thousands of dollars that I just made more money from jerking off and shitposting than I ever would've from working a regular job
>he didn't already know this
ngmi

It's all coming to an end, frens. That's why physical silver is being cleared out: not as a shorts squeeze day trading play, but because we are witnessing a systemic collapse in real time.

>>27312154
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>27312723
ffs can one thread go by without you shills hawking your shiny garbage

>>27312661
I knew it, but I didn't know just how real it was. Like how you know "oh crackheads are dumb" and then you see a crackhead try shoplifting in front of three cops by body blocking the view of the shelf with 4 items on it and then shuffling away, leaving only three items left on the shelf and you think "oh, they're beyond retarded".

True if big

>>27312154
God I hope so. I make a ton of money off of kikes doing backflips on wallstreet. I want to believe

>>27312723
ok bros rate my prep

>berkey water filter with 6 spare filters
>6 months of storable food
>2000 rounds of ammo (half 22 half 9mm)
>10 ounces of silver
>10k cash on hand
>4 jugs of vodka
>4 bargain sized bottles of listerine
>2 bottles of dog anti-biotics
>12 gallons of water jugs

I really wish my prep was 3x better than this. i havent even gotten a good tent or sleeping bag yet i really didnt think the collapse was this close. I realized we were in the shit during the BLM riots but i thought i had at least 2 to 3 years FUCK this is nerve wracking

>>27312336
suck it up buttercup. i made twice my annual salary in crypto last year just holding it. now you know there's cheatcodes out there. you just have to find them.

>>27313054
bro if this is true then YOUR money will be worthless. literally zimbabwe tier

OP are you a nigger or what?
These are known facts, that's why faggots like Cohen and Burry accumulated GME and locked the other hedgies in the vicegrip
It's mathematically impossible to settle shorts if no one sells, which they will but at huge premiums.
The settlement will happen OTC between the hedgies.
A good bunch of plebbitors will be left holding bags

>>27313046
men should not be allowed to be pretty

>>27312563
>>27312661
>>27312914
basefs

>>27313097
2/10 will get murdered by some boomer retard with a PSA ar15

Don’t forget to report threads directly linking that faggot site Reddit

>>27312336
Welcome to the stock market, where money loses all meaning and this shit is just a game for us.

>>27313097
Add Lighters, gas (Inc natty) , solar panels

>>27313181
that's ok. I have plenty of crypto and I hate wall street anyway

>>27312416
So you're saying people are buying shares that dont really exist? If so what happens if you try to sell one of them?

>>27313327
fuck you jannie snitcher

>>27312154
finally some fucking action holy fuck where's /pol/

it's always been a scam

>>27313097
lol calm down dude in 2008 it was just unemployment and poverty not the zombie apocalypse

>>27313097
>All that stuff
>and only 12 jugs of water
I sincerely hope you have a rain barrel or a decent water filter.

>>27313383
>Only have 7k to my name
>Dump 5k into GME because I get caught up in the hypetrain
>My portfolio goes up to 12k
>My entire family is begging me to sell
>mfw
>It drops down to 3k
>My entire family is having a breakdown over how much cash I just lost
>mfw
I thought people treating it like a game was a joke until I felt the price changes. I unironically got more excited that day from seeing ground beef on sale for $2 off. It's insane how quickly you grow used to it.

>>27313435
nobody knows but if the hedge funds have to buy up the shorts and there are more shares than exist after the hedge funds go insolvent someone is going to have to pay for all the shares taht exist its going to be a lot of money

>>27313575
Reporting in from /pol/, fuck the kikes behind this. We always knew they did this and now it's about to be revealed for all to see.

>>27312154
Good, burn it down.

>>27312336
That's as big a W as there is. My plan, gain that abundance and buy my wife a house of her own to go and be a woman in.

>>27313699
the price is going to be very volatile because the hedges are trying to shake out the retail holders. so they do 10,000 share dumps at a time and try to knock down the price like on thursday when it went down to 150 and scared people into panic selling then we were back to 300 on friday

you can either buy and hold or trade on the volatility and try to time the dips and peaks which is very hard iwthout inside info

>>27312154
what the FUCK have the kikes been doing behind the scenes?

>>27313699
when it takes off, you'll have much more than 12k. good call.

>>27313242
You need a break from here

>>27312336
it all needs to come down

>>27313647
>Hope you have a decent water filter
>Literally the first item on the list is Berkey water filter with 6 spare filters

>>27313435
ever divide by zero? That

>>27313994
Stacking gasoline soaked IOUs on top of IOUs to the tunes of trillions.
And now all someone has to do is come in and light a single one on fire.

whats worse is the numbers add up. the initial short was 139...nearly exact what the overage is. Get ready /biz/...this is the signal of the end.

>>27313994
They have been doing nothing, goy. NOT A THING. WEAR THE MASK AND ISOLATE LIKE YOU'RE BEING TOLD! Stop thinking on your own!

>>27314239
lol, you're right, I'm retarded

>>27312154
holy shit

>>27312154
They cant stop making the day of the reckoning bigger. 1929 2.0

>>27313994
Look up Cede & Company and learn the real redpill that they own ALL stocks and what you have in your brokerage account is just a contractual claim in a series of contracts that leads back through the DTC (another private company) to the actual shares owned by Cede & Cneed. Somewhere in the chain it probably says you may have to take cash settlement of the "shares". SEC gave the DTC a monopoly on providing all clearing and settlement services and I'm sure the founders of DTC are just coincidentally jewish.

TLDR we vill own NOTHING and be HAPPY.

>>27314074
Not that anon but something looks wrong about that figure, uncanny valley.
If that's a woman she's deformed.

>>27314523

>>27313780
i cant even wrap my mind around what any of this means

>>27313217
>The settlement will happen OTC between the hedgies. A good bunch of plebbitors will be left holding bags

>>27314596
because it's nonsense

Most people don't realize the layers of abstraction added between most things. there are middle-men everywhere making money.

>>27313918
>buy my wife a house of her own to go and be a woman in
based and providerpilled

>>27312154
https://youtu.be/aK0XqK9mbMk
leaked audio from melvin not a fucking joke guys this is bohemia grove tier shjt

>>27312154
How many people are going to get suicided over this fucking clown show?

>>27312154
What does this imply? assume that I'm retarded

>>27314311
Correction.
They've been soaking gasoline soaked IOUs on top of IOUs to the tune of trillions.
Then a bunch of internet retards burst into the room, drunk, claiming they can juggle flaming torches despite not being able to juggle.

>>27314740
They tried to play it off like the little guy got one victory and to move on...This very well could cause the entire thing to topple.

>>27313699
Why in the ever living FUCK does anyone in your family know what your investments are. JFC just do a flip and get it over with. Ngmi

>>27312154
This requires me to believe 60 minutes and I dont believe 60 minutes.

Is there any corroborating evidence?

>>27312154
Prediction
>Fed announces bailout buy of "fraudulent" shares @ fixed $500
>Enough paperhands give in and call it quits because they don't know what's happening and it sounds like a free out, effectively capping it at $500
>Funds still take a heavy hit, but don't have to dissolve all their longs and crash the market to settle
>SEC gives the funds involved a slap on the wrist
>memoryholed by March

>>27315040
click the link.

L

>>27312154
I had a feeling there was a catch to this shit

>>27315052
>memoryholed
This is unironically the kike's greatest weapon. People need to learn the truth and not ever forget it and fucking archive every shit kike move and immortalize it in their minds. If people weren't fucking retarded as goldfish things would actually change for the better.

>>27314911
My sister is going off to college and my grandmother just retired. I asked them if they wanted to toss $200 each my way and in return I'd use the cash to buy them a stock that'll either fizzle out and make them lose about $50 or make them enough to get by comfortably for a very long time. I'm not heartless, but I'm also not running a charity. If they want great gains they need to take the first step themselves. I asked my dad if he wanted to join in but he mocked me for even trying to get any gains. I told him there's a reason he's unemployed and still pays rent at 45 years old.

>>27312336
>then you wake up at 9:30 to watch the great GME dump of ‘21 unfold in real time

isn't this vindicating the hold faggots even more? Holy fucking shit

>>27315493
They were right. Not even ironically. If the government does nothing about this GME will keep rising.

>>27312154
>retail investors may already hold more than 100% of GME (not just 100% of the float, more than 100% of the actual company)

literally 2020 election fraud 2: electric bungaloo
but this time they are actually going to clamp down on this because it threatens the chosen people.

>>27315456
>Implying anyone is selling at a mere $300 after an entire weekend of seeing people do nothing put post about how many shares they're buying and how much money this is going to soar to
Their greed is going to beat their fear into submission with a bag of pennies. There's no way enough people are going to sell out at this price and outweigh all the people coming in to be a part of the hip new social movement.

>>27313097
>22

lol

>>27315103
The link goes to a reddit post with no sources.

>>27313435
Paying with ir funds the naked shares instead of crashing the wall street redditor but le moon crayons eater diamond dog hands bots said i need to hold the money and buy more and thus decrease the value TOP kek

im glad to see wsb are bringing their best and brightest minds together to discuss this

>>27315610
It’s very simple, the hedge funds own the real shares and the retail traders were victims of fraud so we should ban them from owning any shares and send 6 million dollars to pakistan yo make it all better.

>>27315632
and, despite anon's insistence on always trying to find the counter-culture thing to win on, this will unironically be the very thing that topples the entire system.

>mfw we destroyed the enemy without ever having to name them

>>27312154
wait guys if this is true we cant sell a single share. If there are fraudulent shares out there each time the retail holder sells, the broker (working on behalf of them) will delete the illegal share, slowly attempting to return to normal.... THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO HOLD UNTIL THIS THING GOES PARABOLIC. im talking 10k a share parabolic and not a cent before

>>27315658
ammo shortage dude!!!!

>>27315447
Only a cuck asks for money from the women in his family. No wonder your dad is despondent.

>>27315687
https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l97ykd/the_real_reason_wall_street_is_terrified_of_the/

>>27315770
the HOLD faggot is correct. We need to hold these shares as evidence of the fraud now.

>>27315040
>60 minutes

What do you mean by this?

>>27315687
Stop. The post does have links with much more detailed analysis. You're not going to get CNBC to cover it or a memetuber breakdown.

>>27312154
There's no source in that reddit post tho
I want to know where that guy got this info

>>27313097
>no lighters or cartons of cheap ciggs
>not stacking can openers
you should just give up anon

>fed bails them out
>normies finally get redpilled
>kikes die

>fed doesn't bail them out
>kikes die

It's coming bros

It's clear that a financial collapse is imminent. But will it be limited to just burgerland?

>>27314633
what are dark pools

>>27312154
>This would be definitive proof of illegal activity at the highest levels of the financial system.
>kvetching intensifies

>>27313242
Don't turn into Hitler just because a boy gave you a boner

>>27316160
The rest of the world trades on dollars, youre in for the ride too.

>>27313631
Where were you this past summer? Government hasn't allowed people to work, travel or do anything but riot and burn down cities

Seems like the retail investors will get fucked by shares and shorts magically disappearing. Maybe they will find some clever way of closing their shorts with the fake shares below market price?

>>27314523
formerly Chuck's

>>27312336
kek

>>27316008
>asks
It's still their money. I just used it to buy stocks for them since they wanted to get in on this hype train but didn't have enough time to set one up. It isn't like I asked for money for myself with no intention of giving it back.

>>27316081
There's literally a source in the link at the bottom which takes to the larger version which has more info about it.

>>27313097

I've got
>6k 22lr
>3k 556
>1k 9mm
>2k 7.62x39

I've also got body armor and around 50 AR mags

Also have 60oz silver, 2oz gold.
I'm pretty good, ngl

>>27316160
you know like 5 or so entire countries in south america and islands literally only trade in USD, like they actually have physical USDs they use daily from forgeign aid. Those entire countries would evaporate and probably domino from there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_use_of_the_U.S._dollar

>>27316038
i just wish they weren't copypasta posting faggots, every comment in that post is the same vanilla shit, none of their comments have any bite

>I'm holding my GME shares to prove to the world that the hedge funds did fraud.

>>27316173
Dark pools are buy/sells made in a black box where you can't see em, so you can't front run em.

AirSwap in crypto is trying to make darkpools for crypto

>>27315052
They will cash settle the non-existing shares @ market price, deducting from the brokers cash account. Standard DTC procedure. That's why brokers want to stop you from buying.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-carney-how-to-understand-naked-shorting-2009-9#how-naked-shorting-happens-20

>>27315751
Try again but this time leave out enough of the buzzwords so that it's legible.

>>27316271
sorry anon, I'm a bit retarded

So basically around half of the stock market is completely fake

>>27312914
i like the stock, but i also like the rock
once we finish the GME thing I want more rocks

>>27316260
Discussing finance with the women in your family. Why are you trying to stress them out. And here you are bitching about their perfectly predictable reaction to a situation that YOU put them into. Shameful.

>>27314799

>>27314846
It should have toppled in 2008. But no. Fucking bailouts showed us all who really runs this shitshow and the free market is an illusion. We're going to see some serious violence.

If only there’s was a technology that’s both transparent and unable to be openly manipulated like this. A decentralized asset that could trade for stocks but because of an unowned verification chain wouldn’t be corruptible as current markets are.

Get ready boys, synthetics are about to take main stage and explode.

The derivatives market becoming worthless overnight is going to make the great depression look like a playdate.

>>27316160
Yes? Russia and China have been stacking PMs for a reason.

>>27316541
Yes. And they sold you a bill of goods as if it were real. The price will only go up from here to accommodate because they can't actually fill orders.

>>27312723
should I tether up bros?
I have $250k in crypto

>Skyrockets with infinite demand
>sell at 10k
>market crash
>crypto goes up because panicbasket
>use 10k fiat to buy TSLA while it's on sale
Or
>Nothing happens, it withers to $10
>be out $300
>get to watch reddit melt down

Tomorrow will be good.

>>27316666
>>27316666
>>27316666
>>27316666
>>27316666
>>27316666

>>27316201

fuck you kike nigger

>>27316666

>>27312154
This was a wild idea, and a great effort, but one would be better off reading about something like, oh i dunno, DMG, DMM, mToken ecosystems, etc.

Real world assets on chain doggos.

>>27316666
If this is true the stock market would need to be halted for months or years as things are figured out and corrected.

Nobody would let that happen btw.

>>27316710
ive been deeply considering this lately. Theres so many newfags here that it seems like we're nearing the end of this bullrun

>>27316666

>>27313097
>no gun

>>27316652
The fed has already printed unprecedented money in 2020 to cover the market. Imagine the inflation they will need to try to cover after this even at a 500 buyout.

>>27316652
basically, i was outraged in 2009 when nothing was done and back then i said we would be in the same place 10 years from now fixing the same problem if we dont fix it now and here we are.. 12 years later

>>27316579
>He doesn't become a god in his household by giving everyone the illusion of choice while forcefully getting them great gains as he ignores their paper hands

>>27314523
in 2021 it only makes sense that a company called sneed owns everything

>>27312723
Silver would be worthless as well.
The only commodities would be water food and ammunition. Probably also people.

>>27316666
CHECKED

>>27316847
correct. the whole market would need to be reset based on nation wide company audits and... precious metals volume

>>27316903
boating accident :(

>>27313780
This is bullshit
>someone's going to have to pay the money
Who? Just an ambiguous "someone"? That's bull shit. You can't force "someone" to pay money they don't have. They might end up in jail, but you still don't get the money. God, I fucking hate you idiots.

>>27312154
i'm sick of WSB these days, it's all misinformation and morons

if you think there is counterfeit shares, you need to look into how short selling works.

>>27316777
Fuck you. I love my boywife.

>>27313097
>I really wish my prep was 3x better than this
anon if you 10x this it would still be pathetic wtf are you even doing?

>>27317078
We did. You have to report these things. The reason we're here in the first place is shorts were further shorted, aka naked, illegal shorts. This only proves that happened and everyone is going to pay.

>>27316666

>>27316666
Thanks, Satan

>>27315632
You’d be surprised with how emotionally unstable the average person is, especially if they have zero experience with trading and only bought in because some trending Twitter jigaboo said “YALLLLL IMMA GET SUM FREE MONEY IN DIS SHITTT” or something.
I’m not looking to wish ill on the players who got in early, but the first dip is going to be the test of the average person’s temperament and risk tolerance across the board. Also the big dogs in the game won’t just brush off a catastrophic blow to their collective ego to this magnitude, if one were to wargame a scenario like this, one would suspect that those in power will pull out every stop/favor to make an example out of dissidents (or more sinisterly, give said dissidents a pyrrhic/symbolic victory with little lasting effect only to be memory holed by something manufactured to take its place).
In the age of the internet: trends/social movements might start from the grassroots, but they always end with a psyop.

>>27317078
thats cool fag

now explain to me why GME is in 99.999 percentile of companies whose stocks failed to deliver

>>27316344
better than most. althought I have been having great and odd luck every Thursday at my local Cabela's. I get about 250 ish rounds of 9mm and 5.56 there for about 26cpr for 9mm and 35cpr for 5.56. Expensive normally yeah but great for these times.

>>27313780
Why can't they just claim bankruptcy and not pay you dick

>>27312336
>win the game
>feel depressed
The kikes really did a number on you

>>27316666
witnessed

>>27316847
that would mean crypto would explode upwards

specially a crypto with high upside and that aims to help fill the gap between cexs, dexs and regular joes - reeeeeee f

>>27317134
no bully

I just want to take out 2 commies before I die of diphtheria is that so much to ask?

>>27316948
Good thing is that there is more anger now than there has ever been in recent memory. Biden being president also means the RIGHT people will do a little McVeighing during these tumultuous years. The left is spineless and a dead end for the average worker, OWS failing is not a surprise in retrosepct.

>>27317269
based and 69 pilled

What's the end game here? A hard reset where everyone goes to zero and everything that's borrowed or loaned, you own? Then we start over? Or back to a gold standard?

>>27317279
fractional reserve banking

the Hedgies owe billions to Investment banks who, upon seeing the debt owed to them have ALREADY sent out loans to various bussiness accross the country based on TEN TIMES what Melvin owes them.

If they default on what is owed to the investment bank it dominoes and the entire economy collapses. that means no wendys to make you tendies too

>>27316719
based.
>made back my initial ivnestment and an extra grand
>gonna wake up right around 6am, have a nice poop, make some good coffee, enjoy the pouring rain on my patio, and then try to make a few grand with my last 30 shares
Cherry on top will be watching these retarded, financially illiterate reddit fags and normies lose their savings/max out their credit cards on buying shares at 330 a pop

The jews literally print money from nothing whenever they issue a loan. What makes you think that they didn't do the same with stocks?

>>27317421
Wouldn't want to have that now would we?

>>27317421
sorta, the only real fix is arrest dozens of people and make an example or to a nation wide freeze of the market for 6 months to a year and re-evaluate every company based on a hard audit and re-evaluate banks based on precious metals

I see neither of these happening leaving us with the third option of turning the country and the dollar into Zimbabwe or Venezuala

>>27317421
back to gold standard would unironically destroy the federal system. the economic ruin on countries worlwide would be insurmountable because the USD is the biggest ponzi scheme the world has ever witnessed.

i think this whole thing will be solved behind closed doors and brushed under the rug, there will be no government recognition of this. I can see them pumping the price to a certain point and then the SEC will jump in with some 'regulation' and force the hand of brokers to pay for everyone's shares at an arbitrary price point of $700 or so.

we'll then see a restructure of gamestop shares with little-to-no media coverage and a few people will go to jail for loosely related economic crimes such as naked short selling or market manipulation, everything will be kept rather vague.

>>27315447
>I told him there's a reason he's unemployed and still pays rent at 45 years old.
Ouch

>>27317275
is thursday when Cabela's stocks ammo? Been trying to stock up on shotgun shells

>>27317591
Theres a reason volume was low on the day robinhood et. all refused to let you buy. They cant keep the game up for long with foriegn investors. As soon as you signal that this game is rigged, thats when all that money leaves too. Good luck in todays economy covering that loss.

>>27317695
That still doesnt cover the investment bank that is expecting 100s of billions from Melvin capital. you still need a bailout from them which would further outrage the mob who only recieved a pay out of 700.

BANK RUN
BANK RUN
BANK RUN

>>27316666
Brainlet here someone explain this to me? Isn't the derivatives market fucking enormous, as in trillions upon trillions of dollars worth?

>>27312154
kramer unironically was right, you won and should have gotten out while you were on top now we get to watch the bagholders suicide when the markets open this morning, guys as much as you love to hate him he was RIGHT you gave the big guys a black eye but you play in the amateur leagues trying to bat in the mlb you are out of your depth and should be able to recognize such, and if you can't you had NO FUCKING BUSINESS INVESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>>27316862
all the meme coins blowing up every day feels like the final party before the world crashes down

I'm at least getting 50% out

>>27317702
He's a total mess. Crashes at least 2 cars a year, talks about drugs like TheReportofTheWeek reviewing the newest Pizza Hut release, and brags about being a neet without actually putting his neetbux towards anything but drugs and alcohol.

>>27317782
It really depends anon. I live near Portland (pleaes fucking kill me) and the one here seems to consistently get ammo on Thursdays and one guy who likes me there says he tries to stock it staggered throughout the day: at open, around 1pm, and then around 6pm for the people to get after their wagie cagie jobs end. I would go in, shoot the shit with a few guys who work ammo area, and then ask them. Not being a pushy dick boomer on your scooter grunting at them about when they will get ammo in so you can wait for it goes a long way.
Where do you live?

>>27317911
Never.
Fucking.
Selling.

>>27317162
A share can be shorted multiple times retard.

>>27312914
Based.

>>27313097
nigga you make do with what you got. if shit collapses just remember to keep a 4 of clubs pinned someone noticeable so you can id and be id'd by potential frens

>>27315447
>paying rent at 45

Oof.

I brought a house when I was 31 simply because I knew how cucked renting was. People will give you a loan, take the high interest and chances are you will be able to refinance it to something more reasonable within a year when you have proven that you actually do intend to make your payments.

>>27317804
well, the mob won't necessarily know what's going on. I can say with 99% certainty that this will be solved behind closed doors without much publication regarding it. they will spin up a false narrative because if they do in-fact admit that there is some fraudulent behaviour like this, it will cause a systemic crash of the entire market due to a sudden decline in investor confidence. there is already a lack of investor confidence, as seen by the sudden surge of commodities over the past few months, compounded by the worldwide pandemic. this will not be something they hold their hands up to and admit. people will be paid out at price points, maybe not 700, but perhaps 800, 1000, 1200, it will be made to look as organic as possible but eventually something will crack and these online brokers will begin to force-sell peoples GME at random intervals (like RH has actually already done) and then the rest will be dealt with behind closed doors, as said prior.
don't forget that the federal reserve simply can go brrrrr at any point and then the treasury will issue an IOU bond, it's really quite simple for the government to deal with this. fiat is essentially valueless anyway.

>>27317911
>1 post by this id

Checked but tomorrow is gonna be insane

>>27318039
Yes, but the issue was it was so shorted that it went above the actual number of shares. This is why GME is 300+ and amc at a recoverable 60 remains sub 20. You are fooling no one.

>>27318037
you want me to tell you how i know you're a first time investor, and i know you are going to lie and respond "i've actually been a day trader since the 80's"

>>27318202
That just means the number of securities lending contracts was higher than the shares available. It means bob lent to sally who shorted to Greg who lent to doug who shorted the stock. It’s that simple. You’re a retard.

>>27317911
Heil Hitler

>>27317205
agree, also want to say: Financially illiterate normie outsiders are getting different news / brainwashing feeds than you, they react differently and get different dogwhistles out of things than you do, they are on a different mind control frequency than you are and that is how "they" win

>>27312154
>>27316666

>>27318283
and thats illegal and whats causing the crisis. Retail investors bought in dumb dumb and want their shares. The short on short on short can't cover that.

>>27318392
It’s not illegal idiot. It’s how shorting and securities lending has worked for decades. It just fucks up the shorters when shit hits the fan. Nothing was illegal. They just did a stupid thing that will make them insolvent.

>>27317279
OK, I'm going to have to stop you there. Bankruptcy cancels all liabilities. SO how can they be forced to do anything if they went bankrupt.

>>27314911
Based. He ngmi, and fagpilled for crying about it .

>>27318392
>and thats illegal
Mr. Lawexpert, could you please explain which law this practice is breaking?

>>27318496
He’s a fucking retard from Reddit who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. They got lucky with GME and now think that they are securities lawyers. Fucking faggots don’t understand the world they’re in

my limit sell of $399 got accepted on friday,
checked the prices and it never hit $399 at all

do these cunts have a liquidity crisis? also gives claim to the counterfeit stock theory

isn't buying the VIX at open free money?

>>27318351
fuck the jews, anyways, anyone still holding you are about to take massive losses forget about that, what you need to do the first thing in the morning is go to your bank and withdraw ALL OF YOUR LIQUID ASSETS NOW.

>>27314731
Sweet remix bro

>>27316847
Some sort of great reset would be required. Yes, that would never happen

>>27318478
It is illegal and you admitting to the fact that will make them insolvent already proves why people should still hold.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nakedshorting.asp

for anyone believing this shill, read. The evidence is in OP's post.

>>27318273
Dear jewfag, investing is as simple as buying and holding long (recommended approach by 99.9% wealth managers). Basically no expereince required to buy and hold. GameStop got a 5 year lease on life with disks in PS5 and new XBox. You know this, but what you didn't know is that you aren't the chosen one. You just a tribe of shills who has stuck together through the millennia and don't let other's in. Hence the inbred hook nose.

>>27318577
yes, read >>27318146
they are systematically going to be closing your positions at random from this point onward. or at least, that's my hypothesis of how they're going to deal with this situation.

>>27318556

if this has been happening all the time how come no company ever took them to court? if they bankrupted your business by doing this surely you'd try?

>>27316666
BASED SATAN

Don't like to trade crypto, as it's hard to get a profit with it, but I am a fan of binary systemsDoes anyone use BAEX( #baex)?

A lot of people are talking about it, and I want to know your view. As for pros, people talk about a large number of popular shares and market options, as well as a referral program and transparent open-source code. Is it a good decision?

>>27318146
>fiat is essentially valueless anyway.
you are about to learn just how valueless when they do another bailout. the economy barely survived the 2008 bailout. another bailout will shoot the dollar to zimbabwe tier currency whether the people find out or not

>>27318577
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME
>Day's Range 250.00 - 413.98

>>27318691
Courts and the gov themselves allow wallstreet to do whatever they want

>>27318629
Are you fucking stupid? I’m talking about shorting via securities lending not naked shorting. Both can cause greater number of shares sold short compared to actual number of shares. God you’re an idiot who can read.

>>27316666
The devil is going in raw on the economy

>>27318273
this isnt about making money this is about exposing the fraud of the banking elite

HODLECAUST

>>27318629
Oh and yes people should fucking hold and bankrupt them because they did something retarded. Guess what? They won’t go to jail but they will be homeless.

>>27318630
We're fucked

>>27318659
>be me
>be not jew
fuck niggers, fuck jannies, and fuck jews.

im warning you all against the coming market crash forget about gme you fucking idiot pull your assets out of the banks TODAY

>>27318769
at 40% of actual? Are you insane?

so im pretty much financially illiterate but isnt this the reason why everyone jumped on the GME train in the first place?

whats the difference between this and naked short selling?

>>27318756
that's fine anon, i have plenty of precious metals ready to be exchanged for real services and land.

>>27313097
> 4 jugs vodka
You living only 2 weeks?

>>27318879
No because it can cause that, do you not understand how securities lending works? Its very lucrative to provide cash flow for a entity because collateral must be posted.

>>27318838
Vagrancy is a crime as well.

>>27312416
if only there were some way of knowing definitively upon payment that you are receiving a legitimate, cryptographically verifiable equity portion, which could then be held by you until you decide to sell it, either publicly or privately, and would only allow the issuing party to generate more shares of equity, preferably with some legal limitations in terms of required collateral and/or terms governing the issuance of new equities, ideally systematically. you know, like a contract, but automated. like a.... smart contract, maybe?

I wonder if there would even be a need for a custodial agent like a broker at that point? hmmmm....... really activates my almonds...

>>27318962
Kek got me there

>>27318952
and we both know that can be avoided based on company worth. Its why 72 invested gave to melvin.

>>27313097
>no salt or sugar
Thanks for larping come back next time

>>27316847
Fuck, maybe this is the spark to what’s going to start the Great Reset. But it wouldn’t be this obvious would it?

Burgers gonna wake into a sea of red.

>>27319068
The borrower has to return the stock to the lender or prove that they’re bankrupt to get out of it. They want to buy it back so that they don’t have to get out of the loan via bankruptcy

>>27315288
Why the fuck do all of you edgelords sound exactly like commies just replace "jews" with "capitalist class" and you might as well be singing the internationale

>>27319124
Lol your ID says cum wax. You're gay.

>>27312154
>retail investors may already hold more than 100% of GME

it's time to make video games great again!

>>27318479

Meant for


>>27317465

So now they are even more fucked.

Pay me 50k for my share hedgie.

>>27312154
crypto is literally the only hope for the world

>>27319124
which then leads to the hold mentality. Holding now puts the lender at risk.

>>27319224
At least we know what we’re talking about unlike these fucking Reddit retards

>>27313097
>not even a single pound of sand

NGMI

>>27319092
promise me some of you will listen to reason and withdraw what you have from the closest atm to your house this morning, ban me, call me a jew, or whatever i like you guys and i love this site and if i can get some of you to listen then it was worth it, maybe im wrong and nothing happens but maybe i know more than you think i do and im giving a real warning from a place of experience and knowledge, take your liquid assets out of your bank accounts NOW

>>27312336
If it's so hard for you just give me the pay out so your job wouldn't be a waste of time.

>>27314523

my god what a rabbit hole that was.

tldr, investors don't actually own their shares. you buy a contractual obligation to a share, like reserving a table at a restaurant. its a part of the indirect holding system they put into place allegedly to increase efficiency and prevent counterfeiting, theft, and doublecounting.

Its like bitcoin except centralized and you don't even own your keys.

>>27318759
>https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME
based easiest 10x ever
time to set more orders for $499

>>27319257
NO, the lender is not at risk because they received collateral (102% + fees). You really don’t know what you’re talking about

If this shitty country turns into zimbabwe then I'm taking my shit into the woods and establishing myself early. I know a place pretty far away where I can sustain myself off bow fishing and hunting. I'll build a fucking cabin and live like a caveman. Better than being in an affican "civilization"

>>27319224

They're gonna sell off positions without your consent. That's the most likely scenario. ((((They)))) rather take that L than crash the whole fucking economy. Forget about 10k a share or even 1k a share.

WE.
JUST.
WIN.

>>27319353
the stock went up over 100 when 72 bailed them out.

>>27319320
I think it opened at or near 413.98 and was only there for a second or so which is why you might not see it on graphs

>>27319224
I laughed

>>27319418
Because they got money to buy more stock. What about the lending process do you not understand? You have to return THE ACTUAL STOCK to the person you borrowed from to get your collateral back.

>>27313097
Rate my prep
1 life straw
unlimited squirrels
mcdonalds salt packets

>>27319387
basically this... they might stop trading on it for awhile just to sort shit out

>>27319096
>>>27319209
I'm staying up for this shit. I have an assigment due to turn in anyways.
In this most holiest and based of weeks, the lulz will be beyond comprehension. Either WSB, normies, and /biz/ shall become a sea of pink wojaks or a hedgie's brain shall be decorating the pavements in Wall St.

>>27313699
damn son $2 ground beef is good as fuck, what fat content we talkin

>>27317911
You sound upset

>>27319471
this is what youre not getting, the stocks never existed. 72 is as much as a bag holder as the retail investor.

>>27319274
it is important to note that GME is still in the 99.9 percentile for failure to deliver shares (with a rate of 1,787,191 shares failed to deliver IN DECEMBER ALONE.)

explain this to a brainlet
>pic related

>>27317035
Who ever insured the hedge fund's shorts aka their broker which is probably a bank. If the banks cannot afford it then the government is probably going to make the printer go BRRRRRR to pay off all the biz and reddit tards or they let banks fold if it goes that far.

Notice bank(s). Because it's not one 1 hedge fund. It's many. There is potentially infinite liability on behalf of the hedge funds and banks; hence why Mr Goldjew is shitting it that this can bring down the US economy.

Buy up GME and get on the gravy train while you can. This is once in a life time opportunity to drive a lambo. GME is essentially a blank check that's been signed by the bank at this point.

>>27319594
They neglected to use smart contracts

>>27319594
holy shit that's a nuclear bomb waiting to happen

>>27319582
They bailed out a hedge fund so that the fund didn’t go insolvent and be forced to close their longs (DUMP STOCKS). Hedge funds follow each other’s moves so if one liquidates their long positions to cover shorts, then the other funds will take a beating on those same longs. You’re just stupid.

>>27312336
>company takes a bunch of market manipulation bullshit
>gets it's ownership metric (stock) all fucked up
Does shares go up or down in value if they aren't real?

>>27319594
That’s because the borrower chose to defaulting that loan.

>>27312336
Damn you've really accepted the wagie mindset. Literally upset about easy money

>>27319558
upset no, more like frustrated that so many people don't even know the investors 101 do's and dont's so many people not necessarily here are first time investors with no idea what they were doing when this hype train took off, here on biz im assuming most of you are at least somewhat intelligent and if you at least look over my posts and consider what i have to say maybe im a doomsayer giving you bullshit, or maybe i've been pouring over graphs for the past few days and im seeing trends that are looking a lot like a huge fucking bubble is about to burst and the fucking sky is going to start falling SOON.

>>27319738
i'll be interested to see what the failed to deliver data is for january when the SEC releases it.

>>27319628
Banks have no liability because collateral had to be posted retard

>>27314523

>>27319676
Fair I concede. You should stop the ad homs as I feel we were having a fun romp.

>>27313097
>10k in cash
Thats wayyyy more than enough to buy yourself a decent kit, make caches, and have some stored at your place. But, best not to post everything you have on a public forum just do your research.
I’d get some armor if I were you at least NIJ 3, some active ears, sandbags, basic medical training+supplies, learn how to sew, a garden, and another useful skill.

>>27319474
>no survival ketchup packets
ngmi

>>27319864
Ad hom is 4chan culture. Call me a retard for fun. I don’t mind.

>>27313631
Nah this is gonna be worse 2008 had nowhere near this amount of unrest before the crash.

>>27319817
What kind of collateral do you put up against infinite loss?

>>27312154
When the short sell the share they borrowed, it creates a synthetic long position in the market and they can just buy those up.

>>27317818
Yes.

>>27319913
Squirrels is full of ketchup

>>27317911
>and if you can't you had NO FUCKING BUSINESS INVESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
This shit is beyond normie tier at this point. Literally every person I know has mentioned it. I watched a basketball american throw his life savings earned from working doordash delivery at GME on Friday.

>>27316666

>>27319967
Not if unprecedented retail is on the other end of that trade and white knuckling their stock certificates

>>27319959
The collateral stops the losses from affecting the lender. They just keep the cash from the borrower. They typically get 102% plus fees from keeping the loan out. They literally only lose in the sense the they couldn’t sell the stock at the pump. Opportunity cost is their loss.

Jokes on you, I'm out that trash
dont think such projects can show you anything except cheap trash
I better will listen to my bro and go for Cascade system on BASE protocol
rank1 overall volume on uniswap and amazing results among other systems for last weeks

>>27316666
>>27316666
FUAR-KING CZECH'D

>>27319738
A failure can also occur when the seller (the party with a short position) does not own all or any of the underlying assets required at settlement, and so cannot make the delivery.

I do believe there are some phantom shares which have been formulated through naked shorting. We will see, though.

>>27316652

Agreed.

>>27319817
are you too stupid to realize you're dumb?

>>27320116
To add, during the 08 crisis there were also significant failures to deliver (in the form of checks and some securities, as well).
History repeats itself.

>>27319738
but in december? whats happening in december with gme to make shorters default on their loans? (im assuming that graph is accurate i haven't checked the sec data)

>>27319959
Lol, what ana absolute brain dead take. Regardless of collateral what bank could cover infinite losses period? How fucking dumb can you be?

>>27319951
the dow being north of 25k should scare anyone with real assets thats a giant fucking bubble that if bursted would cause untold ruin, 2008 compared to the markets today, guys please take what you have out of the banks PLEASE

>>27320213
The middlemen (hedge funds and brokers) are fucked because they borrowed and over shorted amongst each other. Banks and the original lenders are not. Keep believing your fantasy scenario where this will kill banks. If you want to kill banks, buy physical silver. This will only kill hedgies, liquidity providers, and broker-dealers.

>>27320076
you don't get it. those shares are sold. they rightfully belong to someone else. if the hedge fund can't afford to buy them back, the lender can keep the collateral, but that collateral already can't cover the current price of the stock.

>>27320262
It is, you can check the SEC data here:
https://www.sec.gov/data/foiadocsfailsdatahtm

>>27316433
Thanks for sharing, that was a great in depth read. Makes me question what’s going on even more. I suspect there’s more to this than meets the eye...

>>27318629
tongue my butthole nigger

>>27320401
yeah i saw that link im not gonna mapreduce that data right now

>>27320400
The lender said goodbye to the stock when they lent it. Receiving it means forfeiting the collateral back. They could care less in missing out of the pump. They don’t need it because they got the collateral. If a client has an investment agreement with them, there’s probably a stipulation in their contract that, in the event of a borrower default, that the lending institution will buy the stock at market to return to the investor or give the investor the collateral (cash), whichever is of lesser value. Nothing was at risk for the lender because of collateral.

>>27319775
Ok so why do you care? If they're all retards isn't that money in your pocket?

Biden's Presidency is off to a great start

should i put my sell order to 600 or 1000? TD ameritrade is restricting sells over 1000, but after a thorough read, i think it wont go any higher than such prices.

alright im drunk right now apnd cant understand things shouldi buy moregme stock ? sorry for for spoonfeeding.

Let's face it folks, as long as the the FED is still around, the long nose tribe will never lose. They will get bailed out at our expense. Sure, some people might be sacrificed but overall, nothing will happen. The only way to break free from the shackles is to end this interest debt society. I seriously don't understand the point in paying taxes when the FED can magically make money without really affecting our society. They printed trillions of dollars in a short amount of time and nothing drastic has really happened. It's all a fucking illusion. We're all slaves, even the rich. There's only a very select few people/families that control it all. The strings have been exposed but it'll take a lot longer until something is actually changed.

>>27320660
They're all 15 year old who have never had to take a loan on something. They don't understand the concept of collateral and that it's literally for this exact purpose, if someone (or some hedge fund) defaults.

>>27320785
Exactly my thoughts. His fucking admin is going to be a hell of an economical disaster. Wonder how many times worse than 2008

>>27320807
Lol yeah I’m done with these retards. The play against hedge funds is real. But it ends there. They could cause a dip from long liquidation, but unreturned hedge funds will buy the dip. Silver delivery squeeze could actually kill the economy though

>>27313097
Comes and takes your shit in 5.56 with 2 buddies

>>27320747
i moved my assets out of the market some time ago, i've been watching the dow climb all year and then i started digging because i couldn't believe the markets have grown to such a degree that it couldn't have been done organically, i don't know fully whats going on but what i do know is this gme and silver thing is NOT ORGANIC its controlled and intentional and after researching all weekend im CONVINCED this will be the catalyst to an intentional market crash, call me a conspiratard jew or whatever but guys this shit STINKS BAD.

>>27320919
you give good info nigger. do you not sense some foul play here at all, though? the lack of transparency in the NYSE makes it incredibly hard to follow the numbers.

>>27316118
I wish I could share your optimism but in my gut I know that they will always win. They control everything and have more power than you could imagine. Every pushback we make will somehow be accounted for in their plan to endlessly stuff each other's pockets.

>>27320884
>Wonder how many times worse than 2008
More like 1929, this entire bubble of a fucking economy is gonna burst.

>>27312336
This is once in a life time event, stocks aren't normally like this.

>>27313181
Fuck them

>>27321043
You want to follow every short trade on one stock? Go work at a trading desk.

>>27320884
>Wonder how many times worse than 2008

I've been waiting for Jeff Snider's take on it, but he hasn't said jack which is a bit ominous in itself.

>>27316945
Even at $500 it would only be $50b or so, pocket change

TIME TRAVELLER GRETA ON BOARD WITH SILVER!!!!!

>>>/pol/306067413

>>27321412
>1/1/09 dow jones industrial 7,726
>1/1/21 dow jones industrial 30,722

in the span of twelve years the dow has roughly quadrupled, thats a number that can't just keep climbing guys something has been going on behind the scenes propping this giant fucker up.

>>27320791
Yes

>>27321031
Hello friend, short example of your personal research? A few bits of info is all I'm asking. You've got me intrigued.

>>27313097
>no bad dragon dildos or lube
ngmi faggot

>>27319498
20%.

>>27318962
Not in Seattle it aint

>>27312336
That was me back in 2017 with crypto. And yes I cashed out back then.
And no nothing changed for me. I was rich from the start that’s why I went balls deep into a speculative asset. I still live a modest living spending most of my time in my room, alone.

>>27321031
Currently I still think the squeeze is legit (at least on gamestop) but I agree with the sentiment that there will be a market crash soon

>>27313383
not even kidding. I have 5k in GME and for some reason my brain doesn't even process it as real money just some numbers in the screen.

before i got into this, putting 5k for buying anything would be a huge deal.

now i feel like even when i get 6 figures my brain will still see it as game numbers instead of actual big sum money

wtf bros, why does this game makes you lose all sense of actuality of moeny??

>>27322980
Human evolution prepped us for being super jews. If we ever entered an alien community we would most likely destroy them on an economic scale because we'd be 10x as ballsy and objective when it comes to money and stocks. While they'd be afraid to spend 90% of their capital on a stock with an 85% chance of making them a billionaire Anon the Wageslave would be spending all his capital on a stockthat had a 0.1% chance of making him a trillionaire. And it'd work.

>>27316379
yeah, nothing like based 4channel

>>27322980
Because money itself is a fugazi. People who understand it don’t care about it after their first breakthrough.
But the kikes made sure most of the people are kept distracted with frivolous issues so they fall for their debt trap.
Imagine taking on a debt just to get an opportunity to be a wage SLAVE. Yet this is the norm in the U.S and no one questions it.
The kikes are really good.

>>27312154

>>27313699
These motherfuckers can change the numbers on the screen at will. This stock will moon there is no doubt about it.

>>27322385
>>1/1/09 dow jones industrial 7,726
>>1/1/21 dow jones industrial 30,722
is one example of something i feel is an unsustainable high, during the obama presidency any of the money guys said dude their is no way the market hits 2xk every month they moved the goal posts and every month the bubble got fatter and fatter and fatter, trump comes into office mr. money president, record high dow, biden comes into office all the sudden economic geniuses find a 120% short from one of the most successful hedge funds in the world in some unlikely serendipity in gamestop in a move that i can't believe happened naturally on both sides, that melvin would do this and reddit of all places found out, you get winds from people everywhere about the "great reset" and the gamestop stock has every mouth piece on tv telling you that if you keep this up the market will crash almost like thats what they want to happen, if it wasn't they would keep it quiet and hush hush why be brazen with a general public that has so much vitriol towards the system, and the only reason any of this makes any sense is that the powers that be are intentionally making this situation happen intentionally.

>>27316666
It’s a quadrillion dollar market anon.
I’m surprised they let the game get so big, but I am sure it’s not falling.

>>27320338
and do what with it?

>>27312154
If a company issues 10 shares and a hedgie buys 5 then lends them out to Wojak who sells them short to Pepe, we end up with Pepe and hedgie owning a combined 10 shares. With the other 5 shares still held by insiders, there are 15 shares in total even though only 10 were issued, so 150% of shares exist for said company. Wojak is required to buy back 5 shares to return the shares owed to hedgie so that only 100% of shares exist again. This is perfectly legal.

Naked shorting occurs when someone happens to 'borrow' shares from somebody that doesn't exist or selling someone's shares without permission. This is illegal. Stocks bought and sold in a transaction must be settled within 2 days. The buyer must deliver the cash and the seller the stock. If either party fails, a failure to deliver takes place.

>>27320807
What kind of collateral do you think these hedge funds put up against theoretically infinite loss?

>>27316666
God help us

>>27323515
the day the crash happened in the 20's the first place everyone went was the bank to withdraw their assets, the guy who went to the bank a few days before got all his money and got to ride out the great depression a lot easier than the dudes who went the day it crashed and couldn't get shit, just take it out and hold onto it and use as needed obviously don't tell anyone you are doing this even your family and hide it in a place only you know about and it will be safe, if im wrong and nothing happens you wasted your time and im a dumbass doomsayer, in the chance im right i saved your life.

>>27323464
>intentionally making this situation happen intentionally
regardless I am intrigued. what makes you think the press would tell the public about a market collapse if they truly were intending for it to happen? wouldn't they be bought off by the hedgies and such to zip it and misdirect so the boys at the top could pull all their funds last minute? I don't watch the news or gay shit like that but are they really selling GME like its about to crash the market?

>>27324716
unless the hedgies made such a huge short on purpose and then leaked the short themselves on reddit and let everyone else do the leg work themselves, how did reddit find out about it you mean to tell me some autist on reddit was scouring shorts looking for something to squeeze when nothing like this has ever happened before, come on man.

>>27323498
Too big to fail has literally never been true

>>27324859
I am a retard but what do billionaires have to gain from their value disintegrating. I am struggling to see the initiative

>>27314558
she's photoshopped, like everyone

>>27324985
>be billionaire
>you've pumped the markets to the point where x'ing your gains gets tough
>move your assets physical or to something that retains value of some sort
>get others behind the idea of crashing the economy
>buy the dip
>do it all over again

>>27316655
Are you suggesting a hybrid of blockchain tech and stock market ?