/biz/ - Business & Finance

post videos from the closed beta NOW! Fucking do it immediately!!!

i'm NOT kidding. I hold 200 hundred Masternodes, and i'm NOT SCARED to sell them all!! fucking post leaks!!!!!

>200 masternodes
>not in the closed beta

OLOLOLOLOLLL BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

It's a POSW Scam and fork of DASH. Can't even run evms.

>>27268762
>200 hundred Masternodes
wow that is a lot

>>27268424
Because uniswap is actually useable?

you are really bad at fudding

>>27271188
Yeah, exactly. Uniswap can actually run smart contracts unlike this shitty fork of DASH that is a rebrand of the other shitty fork of DASH called PoSW that the BIOLOGY major LEAD conveniently exit scammed.

Imagine buying a fork of DASH led by a fucking biology major scammer. Let me go dissect a frog and go fork DASH and put some flashing lights on a marketing campaign so I can attract some Stakenet flies to my pile of shit.

>>27271752
Hard fork being added to allow smart contracts. Keep fudding though so I can hopefully buy more under .4

>>27271940
You honestly can't believe this bullshit right? Show me some evidence where one of those developers scammers actually said this, so it can be used against them a court of law since it's fucking impossible.

Why do you think DASH hasn't forked to EVM compatible? Why do you think BTC hasn't forked to EVM compatible? Why do you think Doge hasn't forked to EVM compatible or all the other UTXO shitcoins?

You can't possibly be this stupid, so please show me something where the devs said this so I can screen print it as evidence.

>>27271752
>a fucking biology major scammer.
tell me this isn't true!! lie if you have to, since i'm fully bagholded in this.

It really is the one thing I don't understand about Stakenet.

It clearly has a ridiculous amount of good tech behind it. It has a beta that literally shows you this revolutionary tech working. It is so far ahead of any competition, its laughable.

And yet there's no hype around it. No one ever mentions it. None of the "big names" in Crypto ever talk about.

Just how does this happen? Outside of their discord, biz is literally the only place I know of that talks about it. Even other online crypto communities (like reddit) don't talk about it.

Is it just a case of people having already heard these buzzwords being thrown around so many times like "REAL L2 DEX, FOR REAL GUYS" so many times that Stakenet just instantly gets ignored as if it was more of the same?

>>27271940
>Hard fork being added to allow smart contracts
please explain? how would this be possible??? seems like it wouldn't be possible at all, are you lying?

>>27272225
Nobody talks about a POSW exit scam

>>27272164
>copypasta to every possible response
PLEASE I NEED MORE KEEP IT UP

Now that we've established the thread, please answer the following:
>How in the fuck are they planning to "hard fork" into a smart contract capable blockchain?

>>27272225
they haven’t started the marketing campaign for it yet, i’m in their discord. what’s the point in advertising an unfinished product

>>27271188
Uniswap is slow, expensive, offers a limited market (ERCs/wrapped only), and is a pain in the ass to setup.

Masternode Owners Shall Inherit The Earth Edition

>What is Stakenet(XSN)?
https://pastebin.com/jiMdEAN8

>Whats the easiest way to set up a Masternode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_YdU8vWrU

>Official Site
https://stakenet.io/

>Whitepaper
https://stakenet.io/Stakenet_Whitepaper.pdf

>Lightpaper
https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-light-paper-56552f8c07a2

>Developer updates
https://medium.com/stakenet

>Latest Development Update
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-update-jan-2021-1f2b1f585b58

>Hardware Wallet Cold Staking
https://medium.com/stakenet/trezor-tpos-guide-fb9ea90382fd

>Additional reading

>Quick rundown
https://medium.com/stakenet/multi-currency-wallet-and-lightning-swaps-stakenet-solution-7d0dafe99105
>X9's contributions to LTC
https://medium.com/stakenet/litecoin-foundation-and-x9-developers-announce-collaboration-510ca985b6
>Exertive Proof of Stake
https://medium.com/stakenet/exertive-proof-of-stake-epos-4a999807f9e4
>Great write-up of Cross Chain Proof of Stake (i.e. stake XSN, receive BTC)
https://medium.com/stakenet/posw-weekly-ccpos-cross-chain-proof-of-stake-de1ac87055cd
>The Cypherpunk Standard of Banking
https://medium.com/altcoin-magazine/the-cypherpunk-standard-of-banking-88f84a834180
>Ethereum Scalability Solutions, Connext and Stakenet | XSN Research Scalability Solutions
https://medium.com/stakenet/ethereum-scalability-solutions-connext-and-stakenet-xsn-research-4edb29267bb6

>NEW: updated masternode fee structure
https://medium.com/stakenet/hydra-dex-network-upgrade-proposal-4b00a3a3fb8


anything under $5 is still make it territory, under $1 is an asbolutely mythical level steal. Get 15,000 XSN for a masternode which will pay you 9 XSN for you every 30-35 hours. That's not even mentioning MasterNode DEX fees that you will be paid. I'm saving up to be able to set up a 2nd master node.

https://streamable.com/codw1m

https://np.reddit.com/r/SatoshiStreetBets/comments/l8joip/moonshot_stakenetxsn_a_dex_with_interchain/

>>27272164
This guy gets it. The devs are fucking scammers and trying to postpone the inevitable; when people realize the XSN blockchain can't actually perform the tasks they're claiming it can do.

>>27272225
>None of the "big names" in Crypto ever talk about.
Because they do DD and see that it's dinosaur tier tech. This is exactly why Blocknet failed, and why XSN will fail. You need a smart contract capable blockchain to build something like this.

>>27272309
Nup. They're gonna hard fork so that you can run 'smart contracts'.

No idea what they'll fork to though, or what sort of smart contracts they mean. But yeah, that's what they're gonna do. BTFO every developer on the BTC blockchain just with a simple hard fork. EZPZ

Remember also. The Dex is just the first dApp. Many more dApps to come on the Stakenet blockchain. Can't wait :)

>>27272579
It's crazy how Bitfinex would list an exit scam. I'm sure bitfinex didn't ask a single question as to how any of this works and as to how they're planning to complete their project in their set parameters when they made the pitch to them. Keep the seethe, I'll see you at $100

fudders are back

this is a buy signal

>>27272923
It's fucking INSANE how they're saying it's "the first dApp on XSN", but don't go into ANY details as to how they're planning on executing smart contracts. It's fucking CRAZY that none of the bagholders question this.

>>27272964
bitfinex also has kleros, so this argument from you blows

>>27268762
>i hold 200 hundred MNs
5 minutes later
>>27272579
>>27272706
>This guy gets it. The devs are fucking scammers and trying to postpone the inevitable
kek
do you hold 200 nodes or do you think the devs are scammers?
the most important part about fudding is getting people to trust you, and your blind, seething hatred of xsn prevents you from doing so

>>27272964
>XSN team pays the listing fee
>this means that everything on the roadmap is complete & works!

>>27273109
Pretty much. The second they witness a price drop below a penny, they crawl out of their basements to FUD. Fun times. I just wish they weren't so rude.

>>27273192
>do you hold 200 nodes or do you think the devs are scammers?
Of course I fucking don't. I made the thread to establish the fact that the devs are lying to everyone. Go ahead, ask them how exactly they're going to fork into a EVM compatible blockchain.

>>27273136
There's a reason why no one outside of the 10 shills here talk about XSN. They've shilled it everywhere for the past 2 years. Youtube, Twitter, WeChat, Reddit, wherever.

Never gains traction. There's a reason for this. It's not 2017 anymore. You can't just through words around and expect people to buy in. The space has matured, and unfortunately Stakenet decided to go down the dead end route. Meh, can't blame them too much. They tried :)

>>27273170
Yeah, what kind of fucking idiot uses Bitfinex as an example.

Bitfinex is such a legitimate company said no one ever but a fucking shit for brains XSN shill.

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/attorney-general-james-announces-court-order-against-crypto-currency-company

“Our investigation has determined that the operators of the ‘Bitfinex’ trading platform, who also control the ‘tether’ virtual currency, have engaged in a cover-up to hide the apparent loss of $850 million dollars of co-mingled client and corporate funds,” said Attorney General James. “New York state has led the way in requiring virtual currency businesses to operate according to the law. And we will continue to stand-up for investors and seek justice on their behalf when misled or cheated by any of these companies.”

You really can't make this shit up. We're witnessing the dumbest mother fuckers in crypto try to rationalize their investment in a fork of DASH brought to them by the same team that exit scammed PoSW.

>>27273343
>tfw the UTXO blockchain smart contract concern shill shifts into fork of dash and now EVM
fudders dressing up as a new scooby doo villain every week

>>27273224
Strawmen are definitely a way to convince people to sell.
>>27273136
Ask the devs, not "bagholders", oh right, you won't ask them because you're arguing in bad faith.

>>27273393
>You can't just through words around and expect people to buy in.
But yet it seems people are buying it, hook, line, & sinker. It's really unbelievable how they keep repeating the "first dapp on the platform", but no one asks how exactly they're planning on doing it? It really seems like it's just the 10 or so bagholders doing a circlejerk on every platform. Fucking disgusting.

>>27273612
>2019
If this was any real concern, you think they would have been shutdown by this point?
also
>tether fud
You're a few months late on that one buddy.

>>27273648
>>tfw the UTXO blockchain smart contract concern shill shifts into fork of dash and now EVM
>fudders dressing up as a new scooby doo villain every week
It's literally the same "concern". A "concern" that's at the very core of the claims the devs are making. They are claiming things that are currently impossible, yet to you it's "concern fudding". Expect to lose 100% of your investment with that attitude.

>>27273740
The orderbook is so thin, it doesn't take much to coordinate a pump. Stakenet has a dedicated whale channel for people with over 100k XSN. And then there's the 'supporter' channel, for people with over 500k

Shill groups of other coins are on /biz/ too. There's lots of them going around. Not just Stakenet.

>>27273665
>Ask the devs, not "bagholders", oh right, you won't ask them because you're arguing in bad faith.
Jesus you're low IQ. That's exactly what I meant; why are they NOT asking the devs.

>>27273740
here we are 2 years later. i think the fud will gradually be about Stakenet DEX's market share

>>27273950
Ask the devs and post their response then. You expect /biz/ users to know about the development of a closed-source DEX project as if they're the ones making it. Keep arguing in bad faith.

>>27273970
>Stakenet has a dedicated whale channel for people with over 100k XSN.
This alone is a huge red flag, and counted on the long list of "things you cannot talk about" on their discord. Team is literally upholding a price manipulation channel. Do they have any idea how bad this looks to any outsiders? Not to mention it's fucking illegal.

>>27274033
Why are YOU not asking them?

>>27274033
They do ask the Devs though. The devs just reply with 'we're working on this' or whatever, and they just believe it. Baseless words. But, apparently you're a fudder if you mention such things.

Like the guy earlier in Discord who got banned cause he went against the echochamber. But then, the same people who just a few days ago piped up about the fee structure chimed in and said hey man, lets address the questions.

Quite apparent the new people (2020/21) buyers are getting a little bit apprehensive, after buying in at the top of a coordinated shill campaign. I guess they should've read the archives.

>>27274129
>Ask the devs and post their response then.
Their response is as follows:
>we will fork the chain, don't worry
?????????

>>27268424
ok, this is just getting sad now.

Can someone explain why being a “dash fork” and not having smart contracts on Layer 1 when everything is done on Layer 2 has any kind of basis for fud? Is this the last stand in desperation or something?

>>27274354
A reminder that shills are coordinating from XSN discord, yet they don't have any fucking answers in this thread.

>>27274070
I agree with you.

>>27274366
Mostly it's because the devs directly said it's something there going to hardfork to. Which, we all know is impossible for 2 Ukrainian devs. Since no UTXO chain has been able to do this before.

And also, because both of Stakenets layer 2 solutions are not controlled by them. People are just wondering what the fuck they've been doing. There's 2 other projects right now at the same point as XSN. But, apparently, Stakenet have been working on this for YEARS

I don't blame them tho. Alex and that Ukrainian dev have been working over time.

>>27274366
>Can someone explain why being a “dash fork” and not having smart contracts on Layer 1 when everything is done on Layer 2 has any kind of basis for fud?
Because the team is claiming that they are a "dapp platform" and the DEX is just the first "dapp". Which is an incredibly fraudulent statement considering the stakenet blockchain can't even execute smart contracts. So that's your "any kind of basis for fud". Shills keep saying that they don't NEED to do smart contracts, then why are rhe devs claiming they will FORK the chain into a smart contract capable entity???

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Stakenet. The tech is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical code most of the breadcrumbs will go over a typical pajeet's head. There's also XSN's Lighting Network, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his decentralized nature draws heavily from Satoshi Nakamoto literature, for instance. The hodlers understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these nodes, to realize that they're not just money makers- they say something deep about BRAP. As a consequence pajeets who dislike Stakenet truly ARE brainlets- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the implications in XSN's existencial catchphrase "Lightning Network Cross-Chain Atomic Swaps," which itself is a cryptic reference to Sergey's Russian epic Chainlink Whitepaper. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those porn addicts simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Draper's genius unfolds itself on their phone screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Stakenet Masternode. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the trap's eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>>27268424
Great volume you got there

Can someone name their 2nd dApp? Remember: it has to be something that DOESN'T require smart contracts!

>>27274354
they started attacking xsn for 12 hours a day (as they do now) back in june when it was still 5 cents. they have spammed misinfo everyday since
pic related was their victory day. after spending everyday of their lives attacking XSN on a mongolian waterboarding consortium, everyone was only up 2x

>>27272577
I've been researching about masternodes and there's still one thing that remains unclear to me. The 15k XSN needed for the MN are locked in your XSN address (cold storage) or are they on the masternode itself (hot storage)? I apologize for being a retard if this has already been answered in discord

>>27274861
Arguing in bad faith yet again. Responding to your fudding discord tranny pal as if it isn't the same fud copy and paste for 3 years straight. Some shills say you don't need smart contracts, some do. But how are you to know the shills that say you don't need them aren't well-disguised fudders? Get your questions answered by the dev team. You still have yet to post their response.

>>27275632
they are still in your wallet, to withdraw all you have to do is unlock them.

>>27275648
>Arguing in bad faith yet again
Wow, baby learned about a new "argument", better repeat it in every post!
>as if it isn't the same fud copy and paste for 3 years straight.
As if the team has provided ANY evidence as to how they're planning on doing "dapps" on the platform.
>Get your questions answered by the dev team.
Their answer literally is "we will fork the chain", which is fucking ridiculous!

>>27275798
Thanks Sir. See you in 100$

>>27275983
Post their response then. You seem really adamant on not doing that.

40M MC Coin gets listed on Bitfinex.
Do we think that happens out of nothing? Really?

I honestly hope the dash fork evm fudder doesn’t get the rope.

Get help mate, talk to your friends.
Crypto isn’t everything.
The world has lots of adventures to explore and there are people loving you.

Anyway, for what reason do you need smart contracts on l1 when they run almost everything besides governance on l2?

There is no reason and that fud doesn’t matter.

>>27276163
>Post their response then.

>>27276163
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>>27276663
according to foto forensics, this image has been tampered with in photoshop

https://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=c937d4c7e4512076ccf7f5303d1644f03740d6f3.21884

>>27275446
Masternode based guidance landing system implanted in the human body for easy mars take offs. Ez.

See here. >>27276663

There just ‘gonna fork it’. Super easy. :)

>>27276890
you can search it on discord you fucking idiot. This is your average XSN investor.

>>27268567
>>27268424
>>27268762
are these meant to be samefag or did this community just get even more retarded

>>27276890
Can't believe they'd go through that much work to fud

>>27277048
>shit he called me out and i need to deflect and make him look like he's crazy.

>>27275983
>>27274861
>>27274321
Get out of here with the concern trolling. If you don't think the team can do it, just sell and leave. This isn't a scam and they already have a public beta product

>>27277102
>this community
I guess the fud nigger counts as one of us technically

>>27277318
You can search that answer on discord. Intentionally or unintentionally acting like a scammer?

>>27277213
Look at these scammers at work. You do know that everyone can search the discord?

>>27278685
>>27278570
I implore everyone to search 'smart contracts' in the discord in order to get a more detailed answer from the devs.

>>27278685
>>27274606
Reminder that you can also see that tons of people in the discord have admitted to troll fudding which is why these threads gets constant bumps. It's a real project with tons of upside of the constant shilling and the constant fudding from the same group just makes everything more confusing for normies letting the fudders win.

>>27268424
rVfBabzF

25 posts in a thread with 75 posts.
>Claims to say there are only 10 xsn shillers on the board
>Doesn't realize that he is one of 3 fudders on the board.

Take a look in the mirror Labs, we're worried about you!

Also I hope you slept well, what did you have for breakfast today, something balanced I hope

HAHAHHAHAHA. LABZ, HELLO MY BOY. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? I see you've switched up your tactic since the past days.

>>27279114
>fudders will insist that the whales were the fudders all along, insinuating that they are not to be trusted
>tfw fudders accuse whales of fudding to spread fud about deceptive whales, but perhaps that was the plan all along
fudception
this was predicted

>>27278685
>rVfBabzF
>Babz
>IT'S LITERALLY FUCKING LABZ
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH. Kek works in mysterious ways.

>>27279909
hhahahaha exposed!!! The truth cannot be defeated!

>>27280353
>>27279909
Come on guys hes obviously hurting, lets not be too rough on him. I would be equally upset if I was in loopring or blocknet

biz would have been way more crazed for this if the project is legit

at this point it's mostly wishful thinking
now back to your McJob tomorrow!

Blocknet doesn't hold a candle to this

>>27281152
who is labz, and why is he a homosexual?

>>27281463
>implying /biz/ isn't mostly made up of newfags right now.
always do the opposite of the masses.

>>27281689
The fudder who's been here for at least the past 7 months. It's this guy: >>27268424
You can find him easily due to his way of writing. The other day his id started with LabZ, to which he made a joke (which was very out of character for the poor fudding sod). I feel a bit bad for him because he's quite obviously doing it to feed his children.

>>27281698
old /biz/ knows

>>27283273
what was the joke? other than his efforts to stop people from buying xsn.. that has worked out terribly

>>27283749
Well I'm not sure I'd call it a joke. He said something in the line of: A usual day at the lab, labz over and out. Then he came back an hour later and shat all over another thread for hours upon end.

>>27283384
I miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe