/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>27189813
Be a gay bear, and buy all the stocks you want to short

>>27189813
simply make the new amazon of 2040, it's the only surefire way

It's not possible as you can't predict the future. Venture capital firms invest in a large number of companies. Invest a million dollars in 20 companies, in 19 of them you lose all your money but one of them returns a hundred million dollars. It's all asymmetric, if you're consistently making money you're doing it wrong.

Find the company most likely to replace Lithium Ion battery tech.

Drop all your money on that.

wow and if you invested in bitcoin 100 fucking dollars 10 years ago you would have 3 million now

>>27189816
This. Unless you have an edge in scientific or political knowledge (which almost no one does), VC model is the best way to find unicorns.

>>27189816
>if you're consistently making money you're doing it wrong.
kek

>>27189818
Except Amazon is a valuable company while bitcoin is this decade's tulip. Once the retards realize that memecoin is fundamentally worthless the value will drop to zero. This may happen tomorrow or in 50 years, but it WILL happen.

>>27189821
i agree that it's useless but it still could've made you a shit ton of money
this is somewhat similar to how people pay millions for a fucking shit tier painting

>>27189821
That's a dumb take, all it takes is for someone to come along and provide a service better than Amazon and suddenly Amazon becomes worthless. Amazon did it to brick and mortar retail, someone will come along and do it to Amazon, let me know how "valuable" your company is then. As long as you can actually offload what you own for the stated value it makes no difference, whether it's Amazon shares or bitcoin.

Helion Energy.

>>27189822
True, but buying assets like bitcoin is no different to gambling. Sure it could make you millions, but it's much more likely to wipe out your savings.

>>27189813
better than that. Gamestop is happening, from 80 monday, to 300 today, its gonna be 500 before friday, theres no risk in this investment and you can find out why if you google a bit.

Had to get in monday to really make it tough

>>27189826
>theres no risk in this investment
kek
Tell that to the morons holding when the stock crashes to $2.

>>27189827
have you read about it, theres a contract that says hedgefunds have to buy an amount of stocks that's basically most of them by friday, no matter how high it is they are obligated or they go broke, which will surely happen, but they have a LOT of money to lose before that.

I bought yesterday and sold today, easiest 200% i ever made(over 10k, mind you), even sellling in the day would have gotten me 30%+

selling before friday is really low risk, after that it becomes truly uncharted territory it may crash or boom gigantically

>>27189828
Didn't the main shorters cover today?

>>27189813
Get lucky with new penny stocks

>>27189817
What's the best upcoming pumped-hydro company?

>>27189831
don't know which one is upcoming, but you can surely make a shitty mistake with one of them.

A lot of xx century dams are failing and anyone who has even a tiny amount of responsibility in those companies will lose whatever they can.

Most of them will stop being profitable at all because of mantainance cost over falling production rates. Eventually the cost

>>27189832
*some will fail and take whole towns/cities with them. In both cases the insurances will be maxed out, 100% of all money there will be lost

>>27189813

I just invested most of my savings in an index fund largely based on SP500 (2/3 of the stocks are from SP500 the rest are various European and Japanese stocks). I have no idea of how much profits it will return but I figure as long as I don't loose any money it's worth it (greedy bankers have implemented negative interest rates in my country so I'll loose money if I keep it in the bank).

>>27189834
>greedy bankers have implemented negative interest rates in my country
which coutnry may i know?

>>27189813
Had you "invested" in Gamestop end of last year, you would have made a lot more on a "per month"-basis.
Stocks are retarded. A sure-fire way for people that already have a lot of money to make even more, and a sure-fire way for people with little money to lose that as well.

>>27189816
Yeah this. I followed the same strategy and got out with roughly ten times the money I had before.

>>27189823
>all it takes is for someone to come along and provide a service better than Amazon and suddenly Amazon becomes worthless
Not at all. Amazon has its hands in quite literally everything. It would be extremely difficult to destroy them, impossible in a short term.
You never destroy a company by simply being better than them. It only works if you build a business that does something completely new and becomes a monopoly.

>>27189835

Denmark. But the negative interest rate isn't unique to only our country but the entire EU, since our national bank adjusts interest rates based on the EU bank.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-policy-rates-explainer-idUSKCN1VY1D2

>>27189826
kek, yeah. Best meme of 2021 so far. Fuck shorters. Fuck wall street. HODL!

>>27189834
>greedy bankers have implemented negative interest rates in my country
lol what you just did is exactly what they want you to do. They implement negative interest rates so people can't just sit on their money and fuck up the economy.

>>27189829
lies

>>27189829
no you disinfo cia reptiloid bastard, its frida, very clearly friday.

god damn these hedgecucks stand to lose so much money that they may very reasonably hire one million posters at 100 dollars each to post lies on the internet

>>27189820
he's not wrong, you know.

>>27189821
Amazon stock and Bitcoin are not the slightest bit different. Their entire value is determined by what others are willing to pay. It doesn't matter what the share or coin represent or what you can do with it. The only thing that matters is what other people will trade you for it.

>>27189844
Bitcoin could collapse at any moment. All it'll take is a spark, like governments moving to ban it or Elon Musk tweeting some stupid shit.
Amazon however, is a tech behemoth with billions in assets.

>>27189821
>what are drugs

>>27189828
How many shares are shorted versus the number of shares issued? If the number of shorts is less than the number of issued shares, you have no protection from the freefall that happens once all of the shorters have covered their position. Those who sell to the shorters will make a fortune. Those who hold out will lose their shirts as demand for the stock plunges.

>>27189847
You under-estimate how retarded we are.

>>27189813
Just buy Chainlink

>>27189845
>this is what normies actually believe

>>27189850
>bitcoin
>only 4% of all bitcoin is traded
>be bitcoin millionaire
>decide to fuck with people
>sell 100,000 bitcoin at once
>flood the market, value is deep-diving

>>27189813
>Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to find the Amazons of 2040?
Invent time machine.

/thread

>>27189813
find a company that'll do something extremely useful in a new big market and won't fail.

simple, but not easy.

bezos saw that the internet is growing at an insane rate in the 90s (new big market) and decided to be part of that.

>>27189850
It's the truth.

>>27189847
>If the number of shorts is less than the number of issued shares
its not

>>27189842
Melvin covered today.

>>27189813
Economics are not a science
Cope retard

Don't bother. Active fund managers have mean negative alpha. In the long run you can't beat the market. Just buy a range of index funds and ETFs, then do some options trading as it caps your losses. Almost all amateur retail-traders lose money. Commission-free platforms like Robinhood make money by harvesting and selling trader behaviour information to third parties.

Don't fall for the GameStop shills, it's a dead company looking for someone to unload their bags, meaning they buy their own shares hoping someone will hop in and buy the top, a classic market manipulation strategy.

>>27189859
this is a bot, ignore it.

>>27189860
How is that money laundering operation going, shill? Regular people had NOTHING to do with the pump, it's a drug cartel desperately moving money.

>>27189853
>bezos saw that the internet is growing at an insane rate in the 90s (new big market) and decided to be part of that.
Yeah, and as we all know there was no dotcom-bubble that burst in the early 2000s.

If you had bought lottery ticket 1059589939100 yesterday you would have millions of dollars today
Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to find the 1059589939100 of tomorrow?

>>27189863
>Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to find the 1059589939100 of tomorrow?
Buying all of them, but that way you won't make a profit.

>>27189863
Lotteries are just luck but the stock market has a logic to it (most of the time).

>>27189818
it's way worst than that, this is btc original price, about 0.0006 that's 160 000btc for 100bucks or
that was the actual mining cost of btc until spring 2010
those 160 000 btc are currently worth 5.1 billions

>>27189865
Lotteries are "logic" as well.
The guy with the correct digits wins.

bruh

>>27189821
>>27189845
>thinks buying Amazon stock has anything to do with Amazon
The stock market is essentially a ponzi scheme. The only money coming in is new investors/losing investors. If the shares don't have dividends or voting rights they have nothing to do with the company after the IPO. BTC has way more utility than any stock, thus more inherent value.

>>27189866
Man whichever jew started this whole bitcoin scam is so fucking filthy rich right now.

I wish I could just make $10 million and live on the interest and do whatever I wanted for the rest of my life.

>>27189871
Never works like that. The habits and mindset to get you to $10 million aren't going to just stop at some arbitrary goal.

>>27189872
well, unless you luck into a lottery type situation which typically ends poorly

>>27189813
Investment banks consistently create a stream of garbage husk of companies with no assets and no profits that are sold to corrupt pension funds. Consider food dash, a dime-a-dozen food delivery app its worth 70 billion dollars.
Every worker is FORCED to invest in a pension fund, the investment banks are legally looting your pensions by taking your money and selling you stocks in fake companies.
Next week ill transfer my pension to a broker that lets me pick my investments. I don't ask for much, only value, i want companies with net equity, profits and a low P/B ratio. I refuse to pay 19 dollars for the privilege of buying $1 of Tesla equity.

>>27189851
you forgot
>/biz/ turns pink

>>27189813

Cerebras.

Their chip will drive the singularity.

Quantum computing is the new string theory, but Cerebras is the razor's edge.

>>27189813
If I had known what was gonna happen today 20 years ago, I would have been successful at life too.

IF ONLY.

>>27189821
>he doesnt ride the bitcoin wave of insane volatility to get a lucky x10 moon jump and be set for a couple of years
not gonna make it desu

>>27189870
I agree fellow goy, crypto is a scam and also Jewish. Let us go back to federal reserve notes.

>>27189813
it is probably going down from now in decline/collapse mode
Buy physical assets that would help you survive.
silver and other metals, even copper.
and tools.
and collect water if you can, sugar and cooking oil.

>>27189813
There is simply too many factors to reliability predict stocks. Amazon could have easily failed with one wrong move. Thorough investigation and reasoning whether a company is overvalued is helpful, but increasingly every company is being overvalued. There's a lot of money in the market and everything has been inflated for awhile. Most analysts speculated there'd be a major correction even before Corona. The current market is bizarre.

>>27189880
based doomerschizo

>>27189813
what is true is entirely predictable (but not everything predictable is true). the following is the truth.

mental models.

the curious drive of the founder. the boundless energy of the founder. the endless suffering of the founder. the optimistic contrarianism of the founder. founder working with those with high intelligence, high energy, and above all high integrity.

network effects = infinite capital leverage, labor leverage, intellectual leverage, and curiosity leverage via internet via network effects (again).

what doesn't count: macroeconomics, politics, top-down leadership, authority, consensus via academics and via society.

so-called "fundamentals" is the relic of the banking era, and banks and fundamental-seekers look for what's safe. but the problem is that everything new is strange, and what is inherently unsafe, and everyone working on this strangeness is by definition unqualified (because it is new).

also the "new" amazon of 2040 is TSLA.

>>27189813
>just wait 20 years bro
there are projects being made weekly with 10000% gains in a year

>>27189883
>also the "new" amazon of 2040 is TSLA.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>27189821
This sounds like copium

>>27189813
what is the point of the "scientifically speaking"? faggot
also >>>/biz/

>>27189852
based

>>27189886
He's right though. Bitcoin is just a series of digits on a lot of computers. It's only worth so much right now because people think it's going to be worth more in the future, exactly like the tulip scenario.

>>27189840
Nobody with any significant savings "sits on their money" anyway, if you do your retarded and wing be rich for very long

bump

>>27189869
>If the shares don't have dividends or voting rights they have nothing to do with the company after the IPO. BTC has way more utility than any stock, thus more inherent value.
'hol up! I had never thought about stock like this. Does this anon have a point? What is the inherent value of stock if you can't do anything with it but sell to someone else? Is the stock market really a ponzi scheme?

>>27189863
compile all the winning numbers and figure out their random number generation obviously, like Joan R. Ginther

Invest into S&P 500

That's like asking what tomorrow's lottery numbers are.

>>27189821
>Except Amazon is a valuable company
Amazon barely makes any profit, retail has terrible margins and is easy to disrupt, AWS is a commodity, they're losing marketshare to Azure, Prime loses money.

>>27189896
Because Amazon reinvests that money and purely focuses on growth.

>>27189892
I guess it's also the promise of dividends in the future. But it's actually ridiculous to suggest that BTC or most other cryptos aren't ponzi schemes either and are backed by utility. The vast majority of them aren't and are overvalued.

>>27189813
Scientifically speaking, luck

>>27189898
Stocks are ponzi schemes. Only boomers believe in dividend valuation. Reality is everyone is speculating.

>>27189844
no, they are not comparable

if we consider bitcoin like a stock, it is massively overpriced garbage

amazon stock actually has substance backing it up

>>27189850
people who still invest in crypto are the most annoying group of normies on the planet

>>27189901
Nothing has substance, everything is temporarily especially in finance

>>27189856
evidence of this?

shorts dont magically expire dipshit, the short squeeze could go on for weeks

>>27189857
they are the same as physicists but do easier math

>>27189879
no, let's go back to gold: an actual tangible and finite asset

>>27189903
you are obviously an idiot

a company doing well is substance, thats why people invest, buy stock etc.

>>27189901
>amazon stock actually has substance backing it up
But what value is that substance to the stock owner if he doesn't share in the profits of company?

>>27189901
>When a corporation liquidates its assets, the company's creditors are the first in line to receive funds from the liquidation. Bondholders and owners of other corporate debt securities are the next recipients to be paid. Only after these debts are paid can shareholders lay claim to liquidated assets. Preferred stock holders receive their payments before holders of common stock. Common stock owners have no special liquidation rights and will receive their payments only if any funds remain.
>Common stock owners have no special liquidation rights and will receive their payments only if any funds remain.

>>27189907
But post-IPO and if you don't have any dividends or voting rights, it's all just speculation with no control and nothing backing it up. Right?

If you zoom in 2007-2008 the stock went from $107 to around $6. I think only maybe 20% or less of the original investors were able to hold on.

>>27189813
its chainlink you fucking retard how many times do we have to explain this?

Money is practically free at the moment.

Amazon is a great company, but current stock prices are overall inflated as fuck. Across the board.
Get out while you can - except if you are in it to harm Wallstreet.

>>27189813
LINK has returned nearly that amount in 3 years. Time is running out anons.

>>27189813
>wating 20 years for that shit money

>>27189813
There are no AMZNs to buy right now. The stock bubble will have to collapse first.

>>27189813
literally chainlink except 10x that much

>>27189813
PALANTIR

>>27189843
hows that?

Find new industries.
IE:
Electric car companies in 2008
Weed Companies in 2015-2020, new industry still mostly illegal

If weed gets legalized by US, CA, Latin America, that is a new billion dollar industry.

>thread moved to /biz/
>cointards will now shill their favorite coint for the rest of the thread

>>27189815
An Amazon... of the future? So an online marketplace of gender transitioning hormones and illegal drugs, sounds bullish

>>27189821
Exactly what people were saying in 2001 about amazon.

>>27189813
Bitcoin will be at least $100 million by 2040.

>>27189813
IF YOU HAD INVEST 1K IN BTC 10 YEARS AGO, IT WOULD NOW WORTH BILLIONS AND IT WILL WORTH TRILLIONS IN 2040

BTC RIGHT NOW IS AMAZON 10 YEARS AGO X 1000

If you bought amazon in 99 or something you would have taken 10 years to break even.

Very hard to predict this shit and I think everyone knows we are in a bubble right now.

Literally just buy amazon instead of trying to find another amazon. The company is still growing over 30%, still has plenty of market share to take and other areas to move into, it still has genius management, and it will weather a bubble bursting as well as anything.

If you want amazon buy amazon

>>27189813
amazon was a fucking bookstore 20 years ago and i'm pretty sure most people who bought the stock then already sold
this "if you bought x y many years ago you would have $z" is bullshit because no one times tops and bottoms correctly. do you have any idea how many early bitcoiners never made it? we will never know exact figures but rest assured it's quite a few.
anyway buy LINK

>>27189813
you change the letters A M Z N to the letters B A B A

>>27189813
Investing in industries like genomics in 2021 is like investing in personal computing in 2001

>>27190971
Every single investment I make is with the idea that if I just hold it will be the next BTC. I am very choosy about what I invest in because of this. I am also retarded.

>>27189852
fuck off sabine

>>27190971

Yeah I agree with that. The idea that anyone was going to 10x their investment in an online bookstore and NOT sell out is just unrealistic. Very few people have that kind of conviction

>>27191145
this. look to automation, and to biotech. gene editing is very cool.

>>27189813
The Amazon of 2040 is literally Amazon.

>>27189813
buy SPCE
i'm serious, just $1000 will go a long way in 20 years

wtf happened to the IDs in the first half of this thread?

>>27191157
i got burned with this hard thinking i was smarter than /biz/ and investing in things other than LINK. I have been quite successful in crypto so far but primarily because of BTC/ETH/LINK

You'd be looking for a company that you expect to take over an entire sector of the economy. Not just "dominant" like Facebook, Twitter, Uber, etc but a fundamental restructuring for how "all retail" or "all energy" or "all technology" works.

>>27189813
Don't have a family so you can stay in touch with the real world and not only think about you kids soccer matches and your wife bitching at you.

>>27191257
ARKG for a safer play. Don't know which company is gonna pull off CRISPR but one of them will and the industry will explode.

Its called Chainlink, but you are about 2 years too late

>>27189817
That technology has been around for 80 years, its called NUCLEAR

All this alternative fuel bullshit is exhausiting WEVE HAD THE SOLUTION FOR NEARLY A CENTURY!!!!!

AHHHHGGGGGHHHH!!!!


France knows this

>>27191479
>no goy don't buy amazon at 100
still gonna go up a metric fuckload on staking release

>>27191332
Thread was moved by some faggot mod from /sci/.

>>27191382
You can't go wrong with the holy trinity.

>>27189813
you'd have to know what CIA projects are in the works & then put money toward those companies they pretend were set up by a single Jew when they're low

Lifelog

>>27191407
Agreed. There are lots of great ARK etf's

>FInd future multi-trillion dollar industries like personalized healthcare, mobile payments, machine learning
>Find sub-$100b market cap companies with $1t+ market cap potential and diversify accordingly
>Wait

>>27191090

>baba

Bruh sell that shit the government is going to continue to fuck them over all for tencents benefit. Tencent+JD will win the day. Xi wills it

>>27189842
Hey wtf, yesterday was friday

>>27189813
The next shitcoin thread you see is gonna be the next bitcoin promise

>>27191145

1999 you mean

>>27190360
This. Defence is a trillion dollar industry and that's one of many spaces PLTR is involved in

>>27191539
The find the company which can put a nuclear generator inside your car.

>>27189846
Who besides brainlet morons use anything beside Monero for the black market?

>>27189813
Defi

I mined several blocks of bitcoin in 2010. Threw out the hard drive in 2012.
Fml

>>27189844
no Amazon can buy back shares from earnings thus driving the price higher. Bitcoin does not have this function.

>>27189813
Solar and batteries

>>27189825
>but it's much more likely to wipe out your savings.
No it isn't you fucking retard. Bitcoin has just gone up, up, up. Only a small percentage of people are going to get fucked if/when it actually dies.

>>27190450
Consistent money making means you're investing in companies that are doing well already in the present or very near future.
Venture capital investing is about getting in on the rare company that will blow up and become the next Microsoft or Google.
You don't expect to be making regular decent money up front with VC. You expect to cover a wide range of possible future success explosions so hopefully one blows up and you get paid for it while everything else you invested in predictably dies with little to no return.

>>27189821
Based. Ignore the other idiots

Find out what industries will be vital for the upcoming U.S. China war, predict how they will find their civilian applications, profit

>>27189813
I would have been 5 years old

>>27189844
What a retard

>>27192149
I went large at open, bought 3000 shares at 9.5. I am holding forever.

>>27189813
crypto
/thread

/sci/ here
holy fuck /biz/ is a fast board
or /sci/ is really slow

>>27189821

>>27189817
every fucking week there's news/threads about better batteries, yet we're still on the same shit.

>>27191539
Yeah just have retards walking around with miniature nuclear reactors inside their phones.

>>27193014
I think it's a good buy under 40. Fair value right now is 27.xx, and it's sitting mid 30's

>>27189821
kek at all the salty memecoiners replying to this post
YOU ARE BUYING TULIPS

>>27189813
/biz is the laziest board

>>27189813
It is called Chainlink

>>27189813
I don't even need moonshots, I just want a place to park money that ears a reasonable interest rate... suggestions bros?

>>27189823
You are wrong, there are better alternatives to Bitcoin too, but guess what we're still stuck with a slow proof of work crypto

>>27193032
It's faster than usual due to the GME shenanigans, but not by much. /smg/ usually gets a few posts every minute (even during off hours) and the rest of the crypto threads move at a decent pace. In my experience /biz/ is around the upper-third of most active boards.

Not only did I miss out on AMZN I missed out on MELI too

>>27189813
How about investing in yourself and getting a fucking job?
How about that huh?

>>27189813
Ill let you in in a little secret. ITs shopify

>>27193274
ALGO gives you 5%
ADA gives like 7% I think

>>27189820
read taleb

>>27189813
You realize flips like this happen on a daily basis in the crypto space, right anon?

>>27189826
>>27189828
LOL

>>27193376

>>27189813

If I could get back all the money I have spent on video games and weed I would invest all of it in video games and weed.

>>27190450
learn mathematical concepts you faggot.

>>27189813
Amazon in another 20years?
10k easy
No problem.
Only real threat is anti trust and that's a simple divestment of new shares to you when they break up the company.

Hedge your bet with BABA.

>>27194644
Or ANT group if it ever goes public

>>27189818
I tried to buy $250 of bitcoin when it was $25 from my friend and he told me to spend my money on college instead

>>27193124
https://www.flinnsci.com/globalassets/flinn-scientific/all-product-images-rgb-jpegs/ap7041.jpg?v=fa99c4ab7f1f4c158b485c68eaf52570

guess why
also guess why that won't change

>>27189813
pharamactual companies that will cure cancer

>>27189845

so given that risk - the upside must be wild.

>>27195693
Holding crypto is like shorting the entire market.

>>27189813
Bitcoin will be worth 100 times what it is now in 9 years. Why not buy bitcoin?

>>27193447
why is shopify doing so well?

>>27189849
Yup

just unironically buy DOGE coin when the current crypto market crashes and you will get 1000%+ profit

>>27189821
if you dont recognize the value bitcoin offers to financial operations and monetary systems then you dont understand finance or money

>>27189813
Scientifically speaking?
You'll have to kill Jeff Bezos first. That fuck ain't gonna let nobody mess with his monopoly for as long as he is alive

>>27189816

The other, boring way is to start young and keep putting money into investments that COMPOUND faster than the inflation rate, at the highest reliable percentage yield. After 10 or 15 years, the shocking thing is the mathematical way compounding curves your weallth upwards, and the invstment yield becomes more important than your contnuing contributins.
But while doing this, don't LOSE MONEY -- that sets you back years.

Nothing is totally safe, but this is the safe, boring road to eventual riches. (Too dull for me. Long GME.)

>>27191539
Eventually yes, but there is no way to convert the energy release by atomic decay into dc current "cleanly"

By cleanly I mean without having to go through the intermediate of heat that pushes some gay turbine. An atomic battery that could be embedded into a circuit board with a respectable voltage would be revolutionary.

>>27196754
He will never die. He will be the first man to become immortal.

>>27191539
He's talking about storing energy, not generating it, retard.

>>27189831
Hydro pump? dunno.

but GEVO. That will be Amazon in 10 years.

Bezos and his wife worked hard for decades, based on their original (to me, boring) idea about Internet-based mail-orer. For decades he told his investors: Don't expect profits soon --- if you want that buy something else. So they played the "long game". For most of that time he was not flamboyant or seeking to rub shoulders with Hollywood types, or the like, or an attention-hog. No megayachts. He was serious about Amazon.

Recently, though, he left his wife and started hanging with celebrities and enjoying his fame and wealth-reputation. He attracts tech-stars now and their sycophants. He has a girlfriend. Unti Musk creeped up, Bezos was the world's richest man. Both of them have unconventional, interesting space ambitions, and other interesting projects.

It was the original insight plus decades of earnest work that built Amazon.

>>27189813
anyone ready for some PHUN monday?

>>27190360
>PALANTIR

It may be a big success, but it is contract-limited like any government contactor. There's probably a fixed profit in most of its contracts. Pretty reliable, but a government contractor can't have exponential growth like internet companies.

>>27198673
I was not expecting to see GEVO in this thread but I was thinking it the entire time. That and PLUG i'm extremely bullish on

>>27189813
Locking up 1k for 20 years for a chance of a decent return is poor investing

>>27189813
BTC

>>27199764
PHUN looks pretty fucking good. might scoop some up to long

>>27189813
>He can't see it's obviously SHOP

its called uniswap

>>27189876
Pre IPO, eh.

>>27189826
>>27189828
It‘s time to exit the market for me now. This is a clear sign of the top. Thanks /biz/

>>27189858
Solid advice.

>>27189813
buy uniswap in 2021

>>27189813
Abstract out the properties of Amazon including the properties of the environment in which it thrived and find other businesses in environments with those properties.

>>27189813
>OP is a faggot.

Bitcoin.

>>27189901
>4th largest company in the world by market cap
>PE ratio of 98

Probably just dump money into green energy startups

>>27191333

yes, their spacecraft is pretty cool

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1353381295980564482

>>27189813
And if I had foresight I’d be balls deep in Bitcoin investing is a suckers game and only the corrupt and lucky get rich take GameStop lucky

>>27189826

"risk free"

if you be thinkin this shit it's time to claim your bag and go man, for your own good

>>27189813
One word. UNI

>>27189821
Money is fundamentally worthless.

>>27189821

yes, there have been people saying bitcoin is worth 0 since 2009

>>27197702
Are you sure bro? I though satellites had the tech already that converted heat to power and used the rad materials for it

>>27202682
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator

buy $spec and fly into outer space

https://twitter.com/CurieuxExplorer/status/1288411024740081664

20k in MUSE will probably get you to $540k in a few days

>>27189823
sure if they were both on equal footing. but how you gonna take down amazon with a startup? even if you had billions in backing it might be difficult.

>>27189829
The volumes sold suggest, no.

>>27193032
/biz/ is usual pretty busy. this is maybe twice as active? threads w/ no love usual go the archive pretty fast but it's actually a good fast board which is more than I can day for the other ones.

>>27189817
It’s Porsche and Toyota so not really much expo growth

>>27189821

I’d agree except Bitcoin is a currency accepted at many places now, and thus in many ways I can see why people like it. It’s somehow safer than the dollar lately bs inflation and you can buy pizza with it

Here’s a good quote by Warren boomer buffet who I dislike as much as you all probably do - ‘invest in a company that would succeed even if an idiot was running it, because eventually one will be’

Here you go OP, this should give you somewhere to start.

>>27189828
What if those Hedge funds file Bankruptcy?
What if the Exchange decides to delist $GME?
What if Congress intervenes?
Look I'm all for it, but Billionaires find a way to steal money, It's literally what they do.

Just buy a bunch of tech stocks and hodlem (long the stock).
If one starts to fall, short it.
Yoy already own the stock (covered short) so it wouldn't be as much risk as a naked short.

Eventually one of them will moon.

>>27189813
literally a crystal ball.

Amazon was a book venter 20 years ago. If you arent investing in Barnes and Noble now you would never have vested in Amazon faggit

>>27189813
okay!!?!????????

Do the same fucking math with bitcoin, scub.

>>27189813
That's it? If you had spent $1,000 on Bitcoin 10 years ago youd currently have 9.2 BILLION dollars.
The stock market is a joke.

>>27190188

I cant buy it bc I cant get a binance account.

>>27189813
HYSR

>>27189833
could you give me an example of that, say in the US?

>>27204573
>What if those Hedge funds file Bankruptcy?
then all the fuckloads of other stocks they hold, they have to sell them suddenly, on top of a bubbled market, and there creditors will be holding a big bag. Get ready to run through the isles shoving things in your cart for a fire sale. Best fucking outcome.
>What if the Exchange decides to delist $GME?
then they are pussy faggots.
>What if Congress intervenes?
see above
>Look I'm all for it, but Billionaires find a way to steal money, It's literally what they do.
yes?

>>27196613

I have a finance degree and don't see rhe point at all. Maybe I just don't get the tech side but no one has ever been able to explain what it does.

>>27189813
in what calendar is it 1399?

>>27189813
If you had invested $1,000 in Pets.com 20 years ago, it would now be worth $0.00.

>>27206106
oh... THIS NIGGA IRANIAN

>>27189813
Whatever company jumps on AR and has good production design. So, probably just Apple.

>>27189813
i mean biz has been making post dailies but hey just ignore the next biggest thing since history

>>27196928
So, like an IRA?

>>27193274
inside the US? store capital, monmouth realty, agree realty.

>>27193346
nope. fuckin' fuck charts. stop reading them. they tell you nothing but the past. the future of BABA and MELI is meteoric. EMs are going to kick america's ass for the next decade. we simply cannot stop inflating the USD and issuing more and more public debt at lower and lower rates. it will slowly be repudiated, and we will turn japanese. ever look at the gold/yen price?

>>27195322
and sell that to who? amerimutt concrete subcontractors and HVAC repairmen? our middle class is fucking gutted, and everything we discover in biotech for the next 30 years will simply be outright stolen by the chinese.

$TELL is going to be at least 15 this summer and 60 in 4 years

>mfw $1000 NOK @ 5.97

>>27189817
nobody is doing that in consumer goods anytime soon, but for grid batteries, it's ambri. the liquid metal battery. and their competition is actually going to be... fossil fuels! oil companies who own and operate their own wells. they'll be sequestering methane and CO2 in their wells for the forseeable future. in a couple of years they'll be collecting those "green" carbon tax credits for it, edging tesla out as the near-sole supplier of those. long OXY primarily, and RDS.A i suppose.

>>27202440
>fundamentals

reddit moment

>>27193032
>holy fuck /biz/ is a fast board
we were the most used board yesterday
something like 130 posts per minute while the second fastest board /pol/ was only doing 120 ppm and /v/ was doing 80

>>27189828
Why would they wait to exit?
It's not like they had to wait to get out.
They could've left when it tanked on Thursday.

I'm totally unconvinced they haven't closed their positions. Why would they risk waiting this out given the amount of attention it's gathered?

>>27189813
Chainlink two years ago

>>27195959
Well put

>>27199778
Not unless they expand to the rest of the globe, which Theil plans on doing. Already signed a contract with Greece. Government surveillance and data analytics a la Minority Report aren't going to be contained.

>>27202577
....have been people saying bitcoin is worth 0...
It's worse than zero, and worse than Monopoly (TM) money, because maintaining the BitCoin system requires vast amounts of electricity and fuel burning every day, especially for computers doing the computational make-work part (for mining). A total waste of fuel, energy, net bandwidth, and it harms the environment.
The original appeal had been anonymity and security of transfers, through TOR transactions. TOR turned out be a government honeypot with only fake untraceability, and Bitcoin exchange security has been a disgrace.

>>27209982
BTC isn't the future. It will spike hard before it collapses.

>>27207232
this, newfags just don't get it, it just became so easy to pick winners for me over these years
i feel like a god
sometimes i try to help people on this board
but my threads never get any replies
then after my adv goes up by 16000% people start listening
it's all so tiresome

>>27189813
What was its market cap back then compared to the top stocks? Do that homework and you'll have one clue to your riddle.

>>27210301
>doesn't suggest anything, like a faggot
here's some actual contribution: 1inch and VDX being pumped right now, dump probably not until monday or later

>>27211210
suck my dick, I'm not a going to shill anything like it or not
but here is a free tip, your picks are bad.

>>27211323

nah faggot hes right

fuck off stockies this is a crypto board.

>>27209982
what do I care?
I use it sometimes for a quick transaction.

go write a 80 page paper on the fall of bitcoin and get your master's degree in economics if you care so much

>>27189906
let's go back to 1 million population via mass suicide

that was post dotcom bubble so the price of amazon was depressed.

I would say that in the future it is very unlikely that you will be able to purchase any sort x100 let alone x500 investment on an open market. The number of publicly traded companies continues to trend downward and small business formation will keep declining into infinity.

I would instead just track a trend. For instance, I think in the next 5-10 years human trafficking is going to be gigantic. I'm going to invest my money in temporary staffing companies, interstate bus lines, remittance providers and pay-by-minute cellphone carriers. Motel 6 might also be a good option. Your results may vary.

>>27189813
>this thread is 3 days old
What the fuck

>>27213322
Kek how did it survive

>>27209551
The beauty of it, and I think this is missed a lot with u.s.-centric persepectives on Palantir, is the greater need for such products in many countries, the relative lack of alternatives, and the sheer quantity of alternative markets.

A product that monitors citizens, provides easy data utilization to combat crime/terrorism, and in general a soft-surveillance is invaluable to many many countries, and will prove to be even more valuable in the future as climate-driven refugees surge, and population-replacement immigrants become increasingly necessary.

>>27213597
palantir's value isn't in those products, palantir's value is in identifying government revenue streams and then being able to monetize them for a government. Anti-terrorism or defense purposes are just a way to get the camels nose under the tent.

>>27205990
Listen to Adam Back (Satoshi) on youtube. It's digital gold. In fact, within the grounds of techno-capitalism, bitcoin is BETTER at being gold than gold itself.

>>27189892
if you buy enough you eventually own a significant portion of the company

>>27213461
Aliens

>>27199892
this

>>27196928
>Muh compound interest
Did you just get out of high school? 7% accounts don't fucking exist. Better off buying stock in your free time

kek.
That’s the best you could come up with?
Illiterate mid-wit confirmed.
Run along and “fuck your girl”
Don’t make me to kick you off from this /biz/ thread
Wanna get rewards - use your fucking brain and go for BASE
That’s all I can tell you

>>27214212
What do you own? You can't vote, so they can literally just leave you holding a bag forever

as if you work and save for 20years you can safely save that amount of money

>>27189813
>2040
my bones are gonna be fucking brittle by then

>>27189844
same applied to the tulps

>>27189813
You pretty much can't. Amazon of 20 years ago was an online bookstore worth maybe a million. It has expanded and changed directions numerous times before it became what it is again.

Also, most of Amazon's value these days comes from AWS which wasn't a thing until 2006 and didn't really pick up until 2010s. These days the store is a net negative and just a huge advertisement for Amazon's other ventures.