/biz/ - Business & Finance

he's right you know
always look at monthly charts

>>27125361
What is a short for $500?

>>27125361
when tards stay stupid things like "it's not about the money, it's about sending the message."

>It's always about the money

>>27125361
>t. sold at 300

>>27125361
Buy donut to cover your short loss melvinnigger!

>>27125567
Its really not tho. I consider the money I put into GME as a loss.

>>27125526
Normally I always believe these but isn’t it different when 100% shares are shorted by billionaires and the entire world is racing to buy and on international news every day?

>>27125526
>always
>stock market
nope

>>27125361
then why are all the investors crying like babies on television and raging in private about this? why the attempt to block people from buying in? why all the paid shilling? why all the attempts to defend the supposed integrity of short sellers?
i don't care if i lose everything. it's already money gone to me. but the chance to win big is better than than any of the faggotry you've displayed OP

>>27125361
>real investors are laughing at you
Oh really? are they the same ones that are losing billions daily and funneling money into shills to make us sell? STFU
DIAMOND HANDS GANG NEVER SELL WE GOING TO 10K DONT LET THE JEWS LIE TO U

I'm up 240%

>>27125361
The kikes wouldnt pull every public gaslighting trick in the book if it was a nothingburger.

>>27125710
Who the fuck do you think is getting the money when you lose it? Not all the other retards hodling. The jews are.

>>27125763
Yes thats why that guys a fucking retarded kike let him FOMO at 500$

Hope people aren't putting in more than they can afford to lose.
They're gonna be pretty salty once they find out Uncle Sam doesn't like when you step on Mr. Shekelburg's toes.

OP must've been one of the people that opened a short sub $200

>>27126165
THIS.

>>27125361
>1 post by this id

>>27125361
Remember they had to collude and cheat

>>27125710
If you dickheads really think the retards at wsb own all or even the majority of the float you're a dickhead.

Other hedgefunds do, and they'll sell whether the newbie sentiment is to diamond hands or not. Stop acting like you know shit.

LOAD ZE FUD

OP, great post.

Another important thing to note is the permanent damage to our financial infrastructure that those holding are doing.

They are essentially financial terrorists and must be held accountable.

I would not be caught holding this stock if I was you. Federal prison isn't fun.

>>27125948
They're doing it so the market makers can sell worthless paper to normalfags at $500 that they got for $20 when they were filling up their inventories back in december

>>27126221
My gains are more than i can afford to lose. How do I get out at a good price? I just want it a little higher than now

Real investors are in on the squeeze too you fucking retard. Did you really think that dipshit normies alone could maintain the upward pressure we're seeing? It's big dick investors from all over the planet reaching in to grab a chunk of this fucking mess.

>>27125361
See you make a good point but the problem is they go and fuck with the market so did we really get to the natural peak demand would account for?

>>27125361
I learned the hard way on how to stop holding during 2017 crash.
Their message is almost same "i own bitcoin because i don't trust bank", "it's only a beggining, once people get money from chinese new year" etc, etc

At least they will learn that you only won by knowing when to take profit.or when to cut loses and when to reenter the market, all TA, analysis, DD, and other bullshit are contributing about 20%

>>27126463
>maintain the upward pressure we're seeing
The big dick investors you imagine are the people you're squeezing buying to cover.

>>27126343
also you, go fuck yourself. low tier trolling

>>27126449
Just be aware that this bubble will pop and plummet to about 20-30 dollars. The people holding the longest are called bagholders, and they lose. If you don't know why the bubble is going to pop, learn what a short is and what Melvin Capital did.

>>27126589
The retards being squeezed are a handful of American hedge funds that are getting buttfucked by not just a legion of retail nobodies, but also major investors both domestically and in canada, europe, india, and china.

>>27126654
They lied about covering their shorts, we know

>>27126731
But Elon musk and those indian billionaires are on OOOoOuR SIDEEE!!!
/s

>>27126780
Fuck has that got to do with anything? You wont know when the shorts are covered and the idiots will still be telling you to hold when the sentiment is to sell

>>27126731
Uh huh there are totally institutions opening longs at $350 lmfao
>>27126780
Hopium

>>27126790
Of course they're on "our side", they want to make a lot of fucking money.

>>27125361
we like the stock

>>27126958
And you stand to lose when they decide they've made enough and want to sell you pleb. Holders lose.

>>27125948
They just saw a company heading straight into the ground and wanted to profit, but retards pumped the stock to screw them over.
>>27126302
>>27126165
Refreshing
>>27126463
And they are going to sell off first and profit the most
>>27126790
Also AOC <3 Princess Cortez Bernie 2024
Eat the rich!

>>27125361
it’s going to $500 at least monday
but don’t listen to me i’m just a retard

>>27126654
Do you think this momentum can shoot it up some? I’m afraid of the Jewish tricks

You are terrorists.
Here's proof ..

https://twitter.com/pghowie3/status/1354915156199944194

>>27125361
Still buying gamestonk

>>27127137
Oh the shorts aren't covered, and I'm not even sure the brokerages are up to no good. They genuinely can lose money easily on volatile stocks and gme is THE most volatile stock. So I'm not even sure its "tricks."

The shorts aren't covered. It can and probably will go up. Just watch it like a hawk and if you think a dip might not just be a dip, take profit.

There is a saying, that you shouldn't wait for the curve to turn around just because you hope it will.

Also though, another saying is, buy the dip.

You just gotta be careful and not get too greedy, basically.

>>27127229
Boomer moron. Ignore.

>>27127004
Well they aint seling out yet, so clearly their target price isn't lower than mine.

>>27125361
Not selling Kike.

>>27127422
Until the big movers sell, you wont know, but when they sell, and you look away and look back to see the stock you bought at like 100 dollars is now worth 30 dollars, you might feel a bit sick is all.

>>27125948
We're getting AT LEAST 7k

Ignore Melvin kikes and faggot OP.

>>27125361
we good bruh

So...are we still winning or what?

>>27127229
Lol fuck the media. They are paid shills

>>27126302
Not true at all. Retail probalbly owns somewhere between 25-50% of all outstanding shares. See >>27126216

>>27127523
AS long as people hold. If they don't, it all comes crashing down.
300 dollars a stock is getting too rich for most.

>>27125361
I respectfully acknowledge your grievance, but unfortunately the fair market value is $6,000,000 (one holocaust) per share

help me out here bros i only got 3 shares bought at 300. should i wait until i get my initial investment covered from the 2 stocks then just ride that one stock out or just yolo it and hodl all 3 forever until the big squeeze. im a poorfag with not many options, this is my last out

>>27125361
>retail investors own 100% of the stock
>shorts are LEGALLY REQUIRED to buy it
The shorts are cornered and will be completely liquidated

>>27127577
that's still a decent amount circulating outside of the hands of those trading gme for none moral reasons, and that's ignoring the fact that the majority of the HOLD DIAMOND HANDS crew will take profits as soon as they thing the might lose them.

You're not really gambling on the shorted float, you're gambling on the sentiment and other people capitalizing. It's far less predictable.

I hope we milk them for all they've got.
Hope. I reckon this will end soon though.

>>27127722
>Retail investors own the float

Wrong. So woefully wrong it hurts. Stop. Take a course. Watch a youtube video. Only invest what you're okay with losing.

>>27127690
you can probs easily sell 2x for 500 each and pocket 100. leaving 1x floating. monday morning is gonna be a frenzy if you factor in the kikes and the boomers whose robinhood accounts are just getting verified.

THE ONLY WAY TO LOSE IS TO BE AS GREEDY AS A JUDE

>>27127801
Trading for moral reasons* think* my bad.

>>27127508
Not how squeezes work. It takes days to cover everything. Besides, I work at a computer anyway.

>>27127523
>>27127611
>>27127722
What is there to stop them from juggling the shares. If what >>27127722 was true you would be able to buy 0.1 shares and ask for $50 trillion
>>27127801
The fundamental problem is that you are the mercy of retards not selling their shit for a 20% profit. But as you said, diamond hands morons hold very little of the float

>>27127859
Retail investors are buying the float and holding. Volume is drying up. This, like world war 2, isn't about winning. It's about sticking it to the jews

>>27127611
Horse shit. Nobody's selling, the volumes are dogshit, and people are furious about not being able to buy more.

>>27127859
you sound like a soccer mom on twitter. go away

>>27128035
most of the retail float is probably those same morons. the going rate for a screenshot of your unsold balance is about 10 redit gold, which lets you identify as transgender for 1 month without any social repercussions

>>27128035
There is no limit to what we can get but we all have to hold. It's really just a prisoners dilemma at this point. Assuming there are no further Jewish tricks and SEC doesn't shut it down.

>>27127229
They really are scared.

>>27127543
a few of the grey ones are jewish lol. overdeck for instance. i think maybe 2 arent jewish

>>27128179
PD will break down exponentially inverse to stock price raise but yeah, this. have your orders queued in numbers that vibe with your personal limits. we're all gonna make it, it's a literal mathematical certainty

>>27128035
>What is there to stop them from juggling the shares.
If people buy and hold it won't matter because there will be a liquidity crisis

LMAO at all these salty ass mf'ers who stay on 4chan saying shit knowin damn well they got like 33 bucks in their bank account. Go find another shitcoin to pump to 3 cents.

>>27128024
https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/l3mryp/how_long_does_the_peak_of_a_short_squeeze_last/

The peaks last moments, and then they are gone.

>>27128035
Limited access
But yes, retail sellers are not in control here, they're just wallstreets scapegoat for this tremendous fuckups, and we at wallstreet bets LIKE TO SHORT STOCKS. WE MAKE MONEY LIKE THIS. SHORTING STOCKS IS GOOD. ffs These guys no nothing mate

>>27128084
People. Retail investors, billionaires, other hedgefunds. And, for now.

>>27128132
I own GME. I like the stock. I fuck your wife.

sure is a lot of shills and FUD around here tonight, almost seems like we might be on to something

>>27127690
I won't tell you what to do, I will just say being afraid and selling prematurely is exactly what Melvin would want you to do.

>>27128179
i set my sell limits to 10k, seems to be what everyone is considering

>>27128327
This is the wrong link. I meant to link to something referencing the shortsqueeze of 08 on VW, look that shit up. It's the best reference we have.

>>27128371
I could coalesce in an unorganized manner around 10k to temp. solve the dilemma. pic related is my order that got (((rejected))) 3x in a row. earlier today, 60-day limit btw,

>>27128327
I said it takes days to cover everything, obviously the highest peak will only last an instant. So what?

>>27128353
you are right, hold strong as they say. what do i have to care about losing 900 bucks anyways. i can live off 100 a month, not like i put everything i had into it

>>27128475
When people start selling the stock price goes down, and the shorts can be covered at said lower price.

>>27127801
Again, not true at all. A lot of shares that are locked up in institutions like Blackrock and Vanguard CAN'T be sold right now because they don't actually have those shares at all. They were loaned out to be shorted. If Blackrock could have sold more of their shares at a 1500% markup, you can bet your ass they would have done so. But they haven't. Why? Because they don't currently have physical ownership of those shares. Let's conservatively say that retail owns 25% of "on the book" shares. That's 20m shares. Then company insiders can't sell their shares. That's another 30m shares that are locked up. That only leaves 19.75m shares of actual free floating stock. And it's entirely possible that it's less than that depending on how many shares retail has been able to snatch up. It's within the realm of possibility that there are less than 5m shares actually on the market available for trade right now. That would also explain why the volume has been so incredibly low the past couple of days. Combined with all the attention this got YESTERDAY and all the new people jumping it, it also explains why hedges wouldn't risk a major ladder attack today like they did yesterday. They would risk losing a shitload more shares than they would gain because of people waiting in the wings to buy in.

>>27128371
Yeah that seems like a good amount. Too low and you miss out, too high and you might get left holding the bag when everyone else sells.

>>27128475
also dude, a lot of people bought in at yesterdays peak, and will buy in at higher peaks if they come to pass. Some retail investors who diamond hands WILL get fucked on this because of wreckless encouragement.

It benefits you though if others hold longer than you do lol

>>27125361
>implying this is about making money
This is about crashing the economy.

>>27128608
ok. Retail investors bought up the float of about 74 million and like none of it belongs to billionaires, millionaires, or other hedge funds betting on Gamestops success as opposed to failure.
Got it.
K
lol

>>27128386
Isn't that very different tho? I mean one is a worthless video game store chain and the other is the biggest car manufactor in europe.
Also this was like 13 years ago

>>27127229
we have already been terrorists for like 10 years for using illegal memes

>>27127611
>Too rich
I've had broke faggots telling me they want to buy up to 1k just to get in. I tell them to just walk away, but everyone I know wants in and doesn't even know this all started when the stock was $4-8.
People believe it's worth infinite so there's an infinite amount of bag holders. I'm in and holding until it's insane or nothing.
I invested what I was willing to lose. The second I put it in I want pulling out until I nut or bust

Serious question. When do WE start shorting? When we see pink wojaks on WSB? Or will that be too late?

>>27128628
just sell your sell parabola model to the values you feel comfortable with. I'm working the #'s this weekend but will also allocate a certain amount for kvetching. willing to pay up to 50% cost basis for another moment as sweet as liquidating a hedge fund on "holocaust" remembrance day.

>>27128683
I'm not a big fan

>>27125361
Wrong. You are literally here. Public just learned about it and have been shut out of buying by the brokers so the consolidation has been extended a few days with their Jewish tricks. They know where this is heading, they needed to get their ducks in a row before they allow it to blast off. GME going to 2000+ would be a windfall for wallstreet once they are positioned for it next week.

>>27128628
Man if someone bought in over 350, they're either a memelord or a fucking retard, so I don't fucking care. People are allowed to make wreckless plays. Apparently the kikes are still allowed to naked short!

>>27128723
No. see no one understands. I tried to explain to someone earlier and they couldn't wrap their mind around how this has nothing to do with microsofts deal with gamestop.

Look up what a short squeeze is.

Melvin capital had been borrowing gme shares and selling them, expecting to buy them back at a later date for a lower price.

Others noticed, and bought up the float creating a sparsity of stocks, which drives the price up rather artificially, which they are contractually obliged to buy back at the going price to return to the original owner.

It has nothing to do with the fundamentals of the company

>>27128796
Fuck off back to plebbit nigger

>>27125948
Bingo. This is what sealed it for me. The visible panic and faux sympathy for the little guy. Just the fact that this kind of shilling is going on here. Now a proud holder of GME.

>>27126343

>watch out youre going to federal prison for doing something completely legal and ethical

>>27128784
This is the only acceptable attitude for this kind of thing imo.

Put in what you're happy to see evaporate. Not your grandmas life fucking savings.

>>27125361
>Real investors are laughing at you
Me: up 300%, already covered my expense and took an obscene profit at the first peak, then bought a bunch of dip for shits and giggles
"Real investors": down 20 billion in a week, currently paying 10.000$ per second in interest just to keep losing.

Sorry you didn't get in on the free money loser.

>>27125526
Monthly charts matter fuck all in a short squeeze my man.

>>27126106
This. The RH thing sealed the deal for me, they're scared beyond shitless. RH's entire business is letting people fuck themselves on the stock market. They have no interest at all in protecting their customers from bad investments. They're not stupid, and knew what backlash, lawsuits and investigations would follow their decision, and still did it. Because the alternative is worse for faggot hedgies.

>>27127004
>>27127508
Oh wow are you telling me this wave riding is predicated on the prisoner's dilemma, wow really deep analysis thank you, they teach you that at finance school? but if you're so smart, why aren't you up 300%-500% on GME like the rest of us?
Jesus fucking Christ the nerve of you.

>>27128796
Don't. If you're asking, stay away from shorts. Don't end up like melvin.

whats all this shilling about NAKD how the fuck a swimsuit company gonna be profitable during winter

>>27128845
monday I see a double frenzy of boomers getting in + shorts getting uout

>>27128969
based. i told my poor bro to chill and skip this one. he won't be barely liquid for another week, so buyig will only hurt him

>>27129003
I own GME. I like the stonk. I fuck your wife.

I'm also rather averse to gambling and smart with my investments. this IS risky.

>>27129003
>RH's entire business is letting people fuck themselves on the stock market
like i couldn't tell from the apple/tesla/amazon shilling of the app's front page

>intentionally nuke your momentum with illegal market manipulation
>woops, I guess the bubble popped!! time to sell since we aren't letting normalfags buy :^)

>>27128914
I get that, but now you know gamestop is going back to the ground after this shit is over, so it's more riskier the longer you hold.

>>27129134
Precisely, so I'm trying to inform newcomers that holders are the ones that get fucked in the end.
inevitably.

>>27128684
You dense motherfucker. Of fucking course it does, but a lot of those shares that other hedge funds and billionaires own they are not physically in possession of which means they can't sell it. It's another fucking scam like fractional banking. Firm A loans Firm B a stock. That stock is now registered in existence twice - Firm A owns it on the books, and firm B owns the physical copy of it (which it then lends out to short). Firm B might sell it to Firm C which then loans it to Firm D to short, and now there are 3 copies of that stock in existence. 2 on paper only, and 1 physical copy. Firm A and C can't sell that stock though, because they don't own the physical copy of it.

Because of the retarded way they keep their books, it's entirely possible that Retail may own 70+% of the outstanding float of 46m shares, while ALSO allowing institutions to own 20m+ shares. But the only shares that can actually be TRADED are the physical shares that are owned by retail.

>>27128969
I think a lot of people are going and are getting fucked because they thought this was a get rich quick but don't have the balls for it.
They panic and sell at a loss and 20 minutes later the stock is worth double.
It's honestly too volatile for me to even day trade considering the (((magic))) with the brokers like RH

>>27129032
Global warming dumbass

>>27129121
Their business is selling your data to the hedgies. If they survive the class action lawsuits and mass exodus of investors that their tricks are causing.

>>27129003
Talking about ur demential 10k target
>you start boasting on how u made $300 and how you're better than some guys who got screwed
Insecure much?

>>27129189
bro most of these idiots are trading cfd. most of the stocks these newcomers own are the very stocks being borrowed to shorts. retail traders are working against their own interests without even knowing.

I also still call bullshit on most liquid stocks being in the hands of retail traders, unless you can source it

>>27126343
You have to know you're full of shit. There is no way you are that dense.

>>27128845
Were at media attention

>>27129222
aha man I considered scalping at 97, but it immediately blew up to 150 before I went in.
It's fucked. Trading strategy doesn't apply here. Logic is out the window.

>>27126343
It’s ok when they do it tho!

>>27129388
This is bad. We retail traders are the scapegoat for their fuckup. We aren't in control really. don't let them convince you we are

>>27126919
Of course there are. They know how to spread off the risk and are actually allowed to do it unlike say me or you for example who are now banned from trading in the options market of those few stocks. I learned this today I tried to spread off some of the risk I had on and collect some theta for the weekend only to find out I was prohibited from actually trading the options despite the fact I have been trading for decades, have all the permissions, am using zero margin, have a multimillion dollar net worth and this is at one of the largest brokers in the world with a position in there so relatively tiny compared to the rest of my portfolio and cash balance that every trade I have on could go to zero tomorrow and I may not even notice the numbers in my account changed.

What is going on here is a whole new level of clown world corruption. It just keeps getting worse and worse every day. We have surpassed many of the dystopian movies of the past at this point with the level of insanity, authoritarianism and in our face fraud, lawlessness and corruption.

It’s really quite amazing how confident they are that a country of people with more guns than people will just sit here and take it. So far we have been though, I know I, far too comfy to do anything but complain about it.

>>27129060
I don't see shorts getting out, boomers will spend anything for this. The chance for them to get out of here was yesterday. Their out is at 900-1200 when boomers give up, but that's gonna be 10%, and they are shorted 112% still.
I think they are only saved by the government, which will most likely happen

>>27129189
That said, if you could time those halts. hoooo fucking boy what I'd do for a time machine

>>27129438
That's why I'm just in it.
I view this as putting 3k on 21 black and letting it ride.

>>27129610
>>27129222
meant to reply to this guy

>>27126559
No. Not even close yet. This is just the beginning of the public phase.

>>27129658
Again, this is a good attitude, man. I'm just worried about the people I'm seeing gambling their families money or taking out loans and shit. This isn't a money printer, and they didn't get in at 5-30 dollars like a lot of us did.

>>27129328
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME/key-statistics?p=GME

122% of stock held by institutions. That's because they have so much bullshit stock on paper. For how much is held by retail, just a bit of quick math. There are currently 7m WSB subscribers - 2m of of which were there at the beginning of January. If 1/3 of that number can average 20 shares each you're looking at retail owning 40m shares right now, and I think it's conservative that the average shares would be 20 among that number of people.

>>27125361
Where are we at for AMC?

>>27127690
>3 shares bought at 300
I hope it's money you can afford to lose.

Nice try hooknose
CLEAN IT UP HEDGIE

>>27129862
despair

>>27128845
>>27128869

Get out before the hedgies are prepared. No way those fgts who got in bulk aren't dumping after this hype train has broke retards begging for a single share at 300.

>>27125361
I sold at the media attention phase, could have made 10 grand if I held. Oh well.

>>27126559
>>27129729
>tries to kill it before it peaks
>manages to signal boost an underdog story to the entire world
gg hedgies.

>>27126106
newfag literally every "moon of the moment" club says that... "The shills wouldn't shill so hard if we were wrong". For fucking everything.

>>27125361
I'm too retarded to know or care what that means. Not selling.

>>27125361
>>27125526
> jews
hi

>>27130004
he's right tho

>>27129853
Dude most of them are new and probably own like half a stock. You think fellas at WSB are the only people to pick up on this?

also, 7million? really? It was like 4.7 million this morning.
Dear lord that sub has gone to shit. If you mention anything that isn't GME every retard online screams "BOT! BAN" At you. Laughable place, now.

>20 shares each

They can't.
WSB is full of idiots with fractional shares because of the msm

Also the gall to think that other hedgefunds haven't noticed this blows my mind. Retail traders just do what they can't, huh?

>>27129764
I'm in super late, but it's what it's.
I'm still new to it all but I read a shit ton and have for a while. Figured get in on this, if I'm going to lose, lose on a meme. Especially one where a ton of people are in the same boat so I'm not alone in failure

>>27129853
more like 1/10000, that sub is peak zoomer energy

>>27129853
Fractional shares on margin being borrowed to shorts, no less.

>>27130004
There is a clear difference between being a retard who thinks only paid shills will ever call you a dumb faggot on the internet, and what RH and other brokers did Thursday.

>>27125763
Yeah this stock isn't going by normal logic TA fags won't understand.

>>27130144
Or not fractional on margin, as I don't know any brokerage that supports that, but whole shares on margin.

>>27130116
It's cool as long as you're okay with losing it. Just watch for price drops and changes in buy/sell sentiment.

I highly encourage holding for as long as you are comfortable.

>P-please Goyim, you won, just sell, please. You don't need to do this Goy just sell, its going to go down you know that right PLEASE JUST SELL! MY SHEKELS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>27125361
Goodness!!!
I have 50,000 shares of GME!
Should I sell them OP? I don't want to be poor!

>>27127004
There is no one who believes GME is going to stay anywhere remotely close to these high prices over the long term. Nobody is just buying this stock at 350 and tucking it into their IRA for retirement in 20 years. Everyone knows it’s a speculative bubble. That’s why they want in, they think they can all get out in time while simultaneously knowing everyone won’t be able to get out in time. We know there won’t ring a bell at that top and say “$2000 is the ATH and here we are so everyone out this is the top!”

>>27129764
New investors are definitely targeted. I'm one of them. I will admit an emotional high. 4 shares. Good money to me, but not something I'm using right now or expect to use in a very long time. Some one is full of shit on this one, and I'm interested in finding out.

>>27130317
based

>>27129883
I hope you're wrong.

>>27130350
most of the newcomers don't know what a speculative bubble is lol

>>27126343
Good luck finding and arresting me fuckin burger, I've never set foot on American soil

>>27127229
Massive buy signal

>>27130237
Well I've seen a lot of really high numbers cross referenced with the vw squeeze.
I also have tiered sale conditions with a couple floating so I can decide when I feel comfy. Been watching trends and making sense of things. Also getting a feel for behavior of the zeitgeist.

>>27130078
>>27130134
>>27130144
Idk... I was watching people buy and immediately exercise options all fucking day long... it was wild how much cash was flowing in... there was also an activist investor who pledged to bring in $650m to help out. There can only ever be 47m shares liquid, and I think retail owns a massive chunk of that.

>>27130399
I had to right a report on the dutch tulip mania in middle school. I got the gist of it.

>>27125526
>always look at monthly charts
*Monthly*? There's been a steady decline of GME for the last 5 years. And *some* of the decline can be blamed on GME being used as a short piggybank.

>>27126343
Oh no! I don't want to go to prison for my 50,000 shares of GME. Tell me where and when to sell them to, and at what price.

Please, you're my only hope!

>>27130491
Is the vw the only short that ever happened before tho? Why aren't there more examples

>>27130491
Well, this is history in the making and we don't have a reference point. VW is the closest and it wasn't NEARLY shorted to this degree, and interest wasn't that high, and retail traders were almost none existent. The trends for GME are not representative of the market lol.

>>27130516
It's easy money until it isn't, and when it isn't there is more to be lost than gained at this point.

Options are dangerous. See the sidebar on WSB? There is a button called "Loss." Click it. That is where most options traders end up.

In debt.

>>27130640
buro a cute.

>>27125361
Yup, sold today and made a quick buck.

>>27130647
Not only. Just last biggest, prior to gme.

>>27130691
I'm super serious guys! Just give me an address to send all 50,000 of my stonks to so I don't go to prison for DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

Tell me who to send it to, because I don't want to go to prison!

>>27125361
>Still a general trend upwards

I'm in favour. Hold the line

And you’ll never be a woman tf LOL

>>27125361
We either will bankrupt a hedge fund or redpill even more people on kikery on the other side of the squeeze. There is literally no way to lose

>>27128234
It’s hard to tell for sure these days because Wikipedia has been scrubbing the Jewish part out of “Early Life” on a lot of these prominent heebs cause even pointing out someone is Jewish is now extremely antisemetic and will result in you being banned from the majority of things be it Facebook or Twitter all the way to video games like world of Warcraft or battlefield and everything inbetween.

Come retard sell faggots, tell me where who and how much I should sell my 50,000 GME stonks.
Whats wrong? Suddenly clam up? Cat got your tongue?
Speak up you stupid kike fucks

>>27125361
First correct usage of the meme chart on /biz/ in years.

>>27130660
Yeah that's why 5,10,36,50,100k
Are all my sale points.
Who the fuck knows, I can't sell at any time. I also know the shorts are insured insanely high too

>>27125361
Doesn't matter. The jews are now our paypigs.

Pay up.

>>27127543
>jewish
As in jewish mother and raised jewish? (There is no such thing as fractional jewishness. Either you're a jew or you have a jewish heritage. Simple as.) Because you *do* know that last names are inherited from the father, right. Right?

But what do I care? Sarah Silverman could make a bit where she says that she really likes GME stocks, warns that those who got in late could lose their money, but that those who got in early should be really diamond hand and monkey strong together. Fuck, she could even be wearing a monkey suit and you would still think it be some kind of (((jewish)))* plot.

AOC, Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro and a whole lots of other people that hardly belongs in the same sentence is on board. So please cool it with the antisemitism, bitte.

*) Yeah, I just had to triple parenthesis it so that everyone gets it.

>>27130943
No one knows. That's the point. The answer is literally "Before it crashes" and that's all it can be.

>>27131019
Jokes on you retard. Never. Ever. Selling.

Enjoy your CBT faggot.

>>27130969
eh I haven't set a take profit, but something will stop this train. There's no fucking way it reaches the hypothetical infinite price target people are hoping for.

Something gets in the way. When history is made, so are laws.

>>27131064
Me neither.

What is cbt? Cannabinoid therapy?

>>27125567
even daddy hyde put money into GME, and i dont think he's trying to make a profit

>>27125361
actually "real" investors are crying on television

Sell and take your winnings now.

What are you trying to prove by holding? This will only end badly for everyone if things keep going on like this. Do you really want to be the cause of another financial crash? Normal people who just want go on with their lives will be hurt by this. When Monday comes, I hope you think about that. Make the right decision.

>>27130660
>ptions are dangerous. See the sidebar on WSB? There is a button called "Loss.
Yeah, I get that. And a lot of people are definitely going to lose out on some options with this, but that's not what I was talking about. Like, people were literally buying 200... 300c's and immediately exercising them to get around purchasing restrictions. Like, just go scroll through the fucking sub. People are buying in at $20k... $80k... $275k. There is a stupid amount of money being thrown at GME to absorb every single liquid share on the market. I think it's very possible that hedges got way to cocky and actually left most of the float on the market, instead of actually buying it all up. That would be the typical play for jews. They're on top, then they get too cocky and fuck everything up and it bites them in the ass.

>>27131116
Capital and Broker Torture

>>27130943
Send them to my btc address.

>>27126654
You don't understand how this works do you? for every share owned, shorters need to buy 1.2

The squeeze will take place over days, not minutes, there is literally a buyer for everyone

>>27131072
Yeah, who knows though. Im currently in the black anyways, not really a justified amount for lack of sleep and time spent. But I'd be more disappointed if I under sold than lost it all reaching for the stars

>>27131140
So did Bill Ackman, Look how it worked out for him

>>27125361
Wrong. Greed is not the point here.

>38 FUDing posts by 1 IP
Melvin's taken the weekend off to come and post with the lads on /biz/

Let me tell you something Melvin: I AIN'T FUCKING SELLING

>>27127577

lol the biggest long GME investors are supermajor hedge funds, the top brass of which are probably sitting in their ski lodges laughing at all the small/mid cap funds getting dicked and the reddit tards sinking their life savings into what is essentially a penny stock as some kind of protest against the man. So retarded it's hilarious.

>>27128327
>listening to r/investing
those cunts know nothing, one of the top comments in there said the SS was going to happen 5 days ago. Woeful FUD

>>27125361
>it's a bubble
No, this is just mob/meme economy. This is going to crash whenever the meme dies.

>>27131154
I think you lost me on jews. The only think driving the price right now is scarcity, and it was going up past valuation for quite a long time prior to the attention it's getting now.


I can't prove it, but I guarantee there are hedgefunds that were longing it and are now just cashing in on the squeeze. I feel it in my nuts.

>>27131165
Usually.
Not this time cunt. the GME stonks I still have, I'll hold till they crash. I'm happy with what I've cashed out. This week, t212 is MY bitch.

Except not really because they stand to gain through their intermediator no matter wtf we do. we're all the brokers bitch

But nah, hold. Long as you can afford to see it potentially go up in flames.

>>27128796

I doubt your broker will have shares for you to borrow to short with and if they did they probably wouldn’t let you do it anyway “for your safety”

>>27131306
Well put anon

>>27131301
110% based

>>27131306
While this is TECHNICALLY true, those hedge funds don't own the liquid shares. They only own paper shares. If they owned shares that could be liquidated, you can bet your ass that BlackRock would have sold off a fuckload more than 2m shares a few days ago when the price was at 500.

>>27131233
...no

>>27131236
desu I prefer not gambling to the stress of having to watch the market 24/7. I like to long things and forget about them.

But, if you like that kind of thing more power to you. I for one can't wait to stop watching the ticker aha

>>27131306
This, all these WBS tards are focused on making some sort of point about hedge fund traders and, in the process, making hedge funds a shitload of money (probably without even realising it). Like most movements, someone wealthy somewhere is benefitting from it.

>>27131362
Yeah I linked the wrong thing. I replied to it mentioning that I meant to link the VW squeeze of 08, and that y'all should look it up too see how quickly the peak came and went.

Also, good advice is on investing.
Good gambles are on WSB,
It's in the name
nvm. it like, doubled in the past 3 days because of this shit. Most of the people there are retards. Can't trust em. They were anyway, but now they're retards who don't know how to gamble or what they're gambling on.

>>27131616
the voltzwagon squeeze took place over the course of several months anon..

>>27131425
They can only cash in on the squeeze if they have the liquid shares to do so, and it's very possible they don't - most of their "shares" are on paper because they loaned them out for shorting. That's the only way you get 122% shares held by institutions (as seen here: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME/key-statistics?p=GME))

>>27131506

Yes, I understand how shares work...

>>27131301
Not to you.
Most people still prefer the colour green to red, however.

>bought after earnings dip
>hoping for Cohen and new console sales numbers to give a decent pump
>up nearly 1500% on some david vs goliath bullshit
fucking love capitalism

>>27130995
kys

>>27131642
yes, but the peak came and went quickly.

>>27131645
Okay, but I don't believe that WSB are the only ones to realize that buying up the float andho

>>27131140
i own gme, but this is from 2019 you mong

>>27131642
Several days, but still...

Anyone know if LGND is going to be the target of a short squeeze? 3rd most shorted stock and it's not getting much attention.

>>27131301
OH HEDGIES
Are you having fun watching anime and eating tendies? I sure am.
Not selling until max gaymer number $9999/share.

>>27131645
*Buying up the float and holding it it would drive the price up., and just because you're borrowing shares out, doesn't mean you can't trade them. Brokerages and intermediarys cover the difference.

Like I said, even stocks owned on margin by retail traders are being lent out to be used for shorts.

>>27125567
The rare chance to be a prick and see hedgefund jews cry, yeah bit of money is worth that all day long anon. Of course it's not about the money, its about having a laugh and bullying jews

>>27131707
the peak for voltzwagon lasted several weeks anon and it reached 1000/share when not even 100% of their shares were shorted

>>27129883
Same place. We are right after the first sell off and in the consolidation phase prior to the ramp, then comes the mania and blow off top.

>>27131821
woops wrong image

>>27131707
No, not WSB exclusively, but retail traders in general. Shit really blew up between yesterday and today, and a shitload of people entered the market. And it's entirely possible that hedges simply doubled down again on higher priced shorts, which could still lead to a lot of retail owning the actual liquid/floating stock.

>>27127004
I think GME is a valuable lesson if you learn it right, which is "don't buy a stock you mean to hold less than 5 days if you're not a daytrader". Holders got rewarded, bigtime, if they bought in literally anytime before this date. Think about that.

The second lesson will be "sell a company's shares if you think it's overbought or overvalued. Don't get caught holding bags on a worthless enterprise". The people who will hold are letting themselves get Enron'd willingly and knowingly lmao.

I love how WSB thinks that bankrupting a hedge fund is hurting Wall Street. In reality a hedge fund gets their primary funding through pension funds and university endowments. Tards don’t realize that bankrupting a hedge fund is killing the average workers retirement funds and university funding.

>>27131884
You should use mine >>27131777 it gives a much clearer picture of the actual peak.

>>27125361
KIKE I WILL LITERALLY NEVER FUCKING SELL
NIGGER YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A SHORT SQUEEZE IS
TRANNY YOU'RE A PAID SHILL
FAGGOT GO BACK TO ISRAEL

>>27125361
>It is never going to reach 10k
Yes it is.
>You have 0 financial knowledge
This is true.
>Real investors are laughing at you
No, they are laughing with us. At you.

>>27131903
I realize, but death to boomers. Fuck em.

>>27125361
At the end of the day, I've got $600 in gamestop. My total portfolio is over $130k. Either GameStop goes to 10k or it goes to zero but I'm not selling before 10k.

I just want it to reach 500 so i can make a quick gain. Hopefully that’s Monday.

>>27131896
> lmao
Remember that shills and lefties are the only ones who write "lmao" because that was still a thing when they got their training (shills) / is still a thing in their chatrooms (lefties).

>>27131984
>You have 0 financial knowledge

This is where you went wrong.

As long as it isn't your grandmas pension though it should be fine.

>>27126449
Watch it like a hawk nothing else you can do

don't listen to hedgie shills
but don't be a dumbass and forget to take profit
you can hold some and sell others it's not fucking rocket science you faggots

>>27125361
>gamble 500 bucks just to fuck with wall street
>still make x2


YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOURE DOINF WE ARE NOT LOSING 70 BILLION WE ARE LAUGHING AT U

lol k

SELL GOY SELL
WE BOUGHT THESE ADS FOR YOU TO SAVE YOU FROM YOURSELF
SELL OR YOU WILL REGRET IT GOY
SELLLLLLLLLLL

>>27126449
take into consideration that the crash might occur during a time your brokerage is swamped with people trying to sell. My brokerage was down for an hour on opening thursday. Don't try to hold on to the last minute. Take it while the going is good.

95 percent of traders lose money.
I dunno why, but I'd wager it's because they try to maximize profit as opposed to just taking it.

>>27132321
holy shit the desperation

>>27132366
I don't believe that statistic though, it's just a common saying. 95 percent of gamblers lose money sounds more reasonable. the 5 percent are people who learn how everything works.

NEVER SELLING
NEVER!

>>27130995
You have to go back Anon and this is coming from a 1/16th kike

will mr. melvin himself suck my cock for a share? i'll make him dance and shove stock certificates in his asscrack

>>27132183
This. You had, and still have the opportunity to cover for this (should it come to a worst case scenario) by investing in other companies that will grow during all of this in a natural way. I'm in GME and will never sell unless it fucking skyrockets, but I'm also covering my ass to the point where I literally stand to lose $50-60 at most.
You can profit off of these people in more ways than one, and if you have the money, you should.
DO NOT SELL GME. If you want to play the stock market by the usual rules, you can do that at the same time with other stocks.

>>27131691
>>27132557
Why are you here? Why aren't you digging ditches, lifting things, putting down things and filling up the ditches.

>>27132183
Yeah I think going higher is too unrealistic. All of these idiots becoming millionaires and making shit tons of money. Wont happen

>>27125361
Fuck off Melvin. The Gamestonk will not return to normal until you buy back all of our stock that you still owe, at 250%.

SELLING

NEVER

EVER

SUCK

IT

MELVIN

>>27130647
No there’s a shitload of them, this stuff happens constantly. Not to this magnitude obviously but stocks getting squeezed for hundreds of percent over weeks / months happens frequently. I know cause I’ve been the shorts in some of them. DDD and TSLA were specifically memorable for the massive losses I took. Glad i capitulated cause I would have gone bankrupt on both; had I not bought them in at only five figure losses DDD would have been a six figure loss and TSLA seven figures. There are countless examples of short squeezes, that’s why there are multiple websites dedicated to tracking short interest.

>>27132402
YOU ALREADY WON
AAAAAAAAAH
SELLLLLLLLL SELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I AM DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD GOY

>>27126390
Who the fuck is selling puts right now? What market maker is going to take that risk for some hedge fund to buy puts on @300?

>>27131944
tiny. Looks like a dip that you should buy, right up until you go "Hey, guess it isn't going back up."

>>27130004
CNBC is literally buying Facebook adds to tell people Melvin covered their short position in GameStop when that’s clearly a lie.

>>27132743
Still not enough.

I want to see if the squeeze happens. Any experienced investors know what the chance of this "squeeze" is and how long it's gonna take?

if GME is about to crash then just short it or buy puts. you are going to do that right? why would you pass up on making money?

>>27131514
It's been a year since I've fought.
Used to fight Muay Thai 6 days a week for adrenaline rushes and strategy. But Rona fucked that. I spent the money I would have traveling for fights on this. Most fun I've had in a year.

>>27133222
squeeze is happening. No one knows for how long, no one knows to what price. Stocks are owned, but not enough stocks are available to cover what is owed. As has been said, just watch it and don't get greedy.

>>27131149

>>27133440
HOLY FUCK. THIS IS ACTUALLY REAL

holy shit ahahaha that's amazing.

Fuck yeah. if GME gets in on the memes it's gold

>>27133440
"gameSPOT"
Lmao never mind. My hype was preemptive and misdirected. Gamestop continues to disappoint with wilful ignorance.
Also I am retarded.>>27133584

>>27129076
>I'm also rather averse to gambling and smart with my investments
This is why you will never make it

>>27133636
I think they can't really make a comment.
They are the younger brother watching their dad get beat by their older brother wondering who's going for Daddy's gun first

>>27125361

>>27127229
Good.

>>27133648
make what? Unless you were rich, or are willing to adopt potential crippling debt, or got in when GME was like 5 dollars and going out of business, there isn't a lot of make or break here. Anyone at this point with the capital to make anything out of gme has already made it.

The rest are probably just throwing away years of savings if they don't cash out in time. Especially if they bought at recent peaks.


Friendly reminder. None of us are deepfucking value, and everyone thought he was a retard holding game like 10K down when the stock price went from like 5 dollars to 4 dollars.


Now people are buying in at 300+ unaware that it's actually worth like 30 dollars and holding it indefinitely.

This shit is why i'll never be bankrupt or in debt.

>>27133720
I don't fully understand the metaphor, but I think I agree with the over all statement. Like, they're just the little guy caught in a crossfire at this time.
Their stock price has nothing to do with them

still. A couple memes to just to buy into the same kind of internet sway musky boy has.
Would do wonders for the sentiment regarding holding the stock, imo

cashed all my gains out
did a 6x in this bullrun dont be greedy anons

>>27134637
They legally cannot. It's the quiet period before earnings.

>>27134709
ah, right. I was unaware. That's a shame.

>>27125361
this chart is so bad though since gamestop mean is going down not up

>>27134518
It's worth more than $30. Is it worth 350? fuck no. But somewhere in the 125-150 range almost certainly. Especially with Cohen on board.

>>27135131
a change in ceo and business model doesn't increase stock valuation from 30 to 130 without actual, physical results. Valuations are still between 5-30. The company looks good for 30, but how are you justifying 125-150? cohen hasn't said shit. Cohen is why the high is at 30

Hedgies are so confident that they've covered their positions that they shut down the markets 2 days ago and reduced the amount of shares people can hold to 1 yesterday

ah yes, very confident

I've been rather anti gme in this thread in the spirit of new know nothing investors so I'll make my position clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDKD_F1Jh0U&ab_channel=ADarkWinter

>27130660
Absolutely, my dear. People are gonna end up on debt. By buying calls. Totally how this works, it's not like the most famous loss of wsb was a dude trading on infinite margin.

>>27136160
Are you being condescending? I can't tell. The majority of people losing money aren't using infinite margin exploits.
Options are straight up gambles even for the best investors.

>>27125361

>>27125361
Pic related is a short squeeze, retard

the shorts are paying up to 10 billion per day at current prices, don't sell if you have some and buy if you don't

>>27127239
Very interesting graphic, anon. Thanks for this infos!

>>27136420
>USD$115.74 every millisecond
G L O R I O U S

>>27125361 (OP)
Ok, i will agree with you. Maybe we went too harsh on you, Melvin.
But i am a gentle man, so i will sell back my GME stocks for just $3000 each. Take it or leave it.

>>27127239
This is literally the best graph I've seen here.

>>27136355
What is the difference?
The core takeaway is that eventually the bubble pops, and the price rapidly returns to around its valuation.

>>27136589
Pic related

>27136287
Being condescending? How could I think about doing such a thing.
Now, do you mind explaining how the standard retail investor can end up in debt using options without using some retarded bug in robinhood? Because, you know, you can't sell naked options (and even those are de facto margin) unless you get clearance from your broker and you have to mantain enough collateral to not end under.

>>27136669
Bubble is made by bull retards overbuying an asset, as soon as the bubble pops the price falls.
Squeeze is made by bear retards overshorting an asset, as soon as the squeeze happens the price skirockets.

>>27125763
Yes this is when people who don't do any fucking research talk shit.
Fucking idiots.
Or worse, shills trying to FUD.

>>27125361
I genuinely don't give a single fuck. I'm just an incel trying to get his dopamine fix. If I have to lose every single penny I have for this, so be it. It might just push me over the edge and I'll finally blow my brains out.

>>27136669
So in a bubble if you're shorting you're on the right side, in a squeeze pretty the opposite.

>>27126343
You would love prison, you get to suck all the dick you want, give your boy pussy to the jew dick, fucking faggot.

>>27136796
fucking based
take the kikes down with you, king

>>27136763
Are VW and GME comparable? GME went down because of (((their))) tricks, was it the same with VW?

>>27126463
Fucking idiots have not been watching after hours and the over seas markets. Every night the hedgies tank the stock in after hours, then the foreign markets rally that shit to over 100 point every night. The Euro Bros really have been the unsung heros here, because if they didn't pump that shit up every night, paper hands would be gone if they woke up and seen red.

>>27126343
>federal prison
lmao typical burger thinking they are the only country on earth

>>27136702
The same way melvin now owes billions you tard. naked calls/puts

if I buy your lollipop for 5 dollars, and have to sell it you back in a week for 500 dollars, I don't just lose my investment, I go negative.

Jesus christ

anyway, most brokerages wont allow casuals to do this shit anyway, thankfully

>>27137066
I mean, if I borrow it, sell it for 5 and have to buy it back for 500 to return it to the original owner* sorry, missed a step >>27136702

>>27127611
Not really, because a lot of people bought in for that and higher.

>>27137148
Yes, and we here in the land of smart investing call them retard who are likely to lose money and have been in the red for 2 days now.

>>27128354
4chan shills, the worst.
Not to mention the jelly to reddit because they actually did something beside suck pajeet cocks.

>>27129003
>>27126106
>>27129121
>>27129245
>>27129249
Their business is people robin hood buy a stock at 10 bucks, the hedgies buys it at mass at 8 bucks sells it to you at 8 and they keep the two bucks.
Retail was suppose to insignificant to the point where the hedgie would sell at lose and pay you what you where owed.
The whole system is that people on robin hood don't have the same data as the big boys. Their stock ticker says 10, but really the hedges see the price is 8 bucks with micro dips.So they buy 8 sell at 10 etc.

>>27136702
oh you mentioned naked options. Yeah man, not ALL brokerages stop you doing that. Robinhood allowed it until the box spread incident, and even then, phoning your broker and a little one on one and you may gain access.

They're less accessible than they were, sure.

>>27136702
Also when I mentioned debt I wasn't referring to going negative on a bad option.
I was referring to the idiots taking out loands hoping to make it big on the gamble that is GME. WSB is currently rife with people staking more than they can lose

>>27128723
2 things.
That was in 2008 no one had any outsider info on it. There was no reddit, no 4chan watching everything going on. So they could get away with it.
2. VW was not 130 percent shorted, it was really bad, but not close to 130.
They road the stock down wed or tues I forget which with their bullshit tactics, but that only covered their shorts for that day because they doubled down.
The stock was at 60 friday, if they shorted that it would have had to fall below 60 monday or tues and it didn't. Monday was the worst day, and I still think it didn't get below 60.
SO the original shorts are in no way covered.
Their new shorts are for sure. They jewed the game big time.

>>27136796
Based.

>>27128371
Will some hedgies get fucked? Some will, but they're so financially padded they'll never feel the burn of true poverty. They'll never feel how bad it sucks to be you. Will other funds/mm's/etc. get bailed out? Certainly. Many will ride off unscathed.

Will some retail investors make bank? Yes. Those who bought relatively low and ignore the diamond hands meme and sell will do nicely for themselves. Whether you like it or not, once the shorts are bailed out 2008 style, a lot of these dumb money FOMO retail buyers will be left holding the bag. You and only you are responsible for selling your position before that happens.

>27137066
You can't sell naked calls or puts unless you get clearance. If you do, you trade them on collateral. If you go under, margin call. How do you end up in debt?
Also, again, this is trading on margin. How do you end up in debt using option without trading on margin?

>>27126851
you will see when a short gets covered, you cant just buy 11 million shares without affecting the market at all. and that is the short that expired yesterday. the others come soon

>>27137314
Wrong, their business is SELLING the stock information to Citadel.
50 percent of RH stocks are traded through Citadel. Information is what they sell.
That information is what Citadel has, they know what every fucking sell, buy, and price point is that they have.
That is who told them to stop allowing RH users to buy stocks when they fucking knew that once they hit 500 to sell, then Citadel bought them, and tanked the stock though rapid selling and buying.
Robinhood makes money off information.
That information goes to Citadel probably Melvin also.
SO
Citadel and Melvin destroyed their golden goose to tank the stock and Manipulate the market. They killed their information gateway.
WHY? Why would they do that if they knew this was just a bubble?
BECAUSE IT"S NOT JUST A BUBBLE.

>>27125361
Nobody cares. We've taken over the news cycle for 4 days and realized a collective power we have.
Eat shit.

Does anyone have the tweet saved where the guy says shorting stocks will create hitler

>>27137921
"If a margin call is issued and the investor is unable to bring their investment up to the minimum requirements, the broker has the right to sell off the positions and also charge any commissions, fees, and interest to the account holder."

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/what-happens-cannot-pay-margin-call.asp

"the investor is unable to bring their investment up to the minimum requirements," > "the broker has the right to sell off the positions and also charge any commissions, fees, and interest to the account holder."

>>27138031
We are the scapegoat. You are the stupid

>>27137421
>>27137602
Yeah, but the point is that they are still margin. It's a loan regardless of who you got it from. My objection was simply about the point in your post about getting in debt using options, because that is per se impossible.
If you want to tell people to be sure that they can afford the loss ok, but simply saying "options buyers end up in debt" won't help anyone and it's simply false.

>>27137921
a little more incase you're super averse to reading and being autodidactic.

"In addition, your brokerage firm can charge you a commission for the transaction(s), and any interest due on the money loaned to you in the first place. You are responsible for any losses sustained during this process, and your brokerage firm may liquidate enough shares or contracts to exceed the initial margin requirement."

>>27138181
Yes but if you breech the margin and it isn't covered in time, you could hypothetically be called to front the cost to the brokerage for your mistake breaching margin.

So it's pretty stupid to buy in at this point, right? The people positioned to make a ton of money are the ones that got in before this caught fire. I keep seeing this all the time but I don't want to be tempted by FOMO just because I stopped paying attention for a few months.

>>27138243
In other words, lets say you get margin called on an option, You not only get that option closed, but various positions of your portfolio which add up to more than that of your initial investment on the option. This is negative income. If there is nothing in the portfolio, it's... debt. Which your brokerage will cover, probably, but it's a risky game. They don't HAVE to because they make you agree to a tos that you know the risks of trading margin.

>>27138243
This is all predicated on trading on margin dude. You are "already" in debt when you trade on margin, that's the point behind a margin call.

>>27138347
Yes.
But there's no harm in losing £250 to be a part of history.

Other than losing £250, anyway

>>27138397
Yes but I'm saying that a margin call may not be met quick enough to save you from going negative on your investment.

>>27138355
>there is nothing in the portfolio, it's... debt.
This cannot happen. You can't trade on margin, unless you exploit some bug, on an empty portfolio. You need collateral to cover an eventual loss, because you are asking from a loan from your broker. When you get close to your loss cap you get margin called and your collateral assets are seized to cover. You can theoretically end up in debt if, for example, there is not enough volume to close your position when it reaches the cap but this is de facto theoretical because no sane broker with a decent risk management allow similar things.

>>27125948
They dont want unhealthy precedent. Guerilla investing. This is bad in long run for markets

>>27138655
and yet, it has happened. ANYWAY.

Like I said, i'm not talking about options, pleb. I'm talking about people taking out loans or using their life savings to buy GME at the current high. That kind of debt. Not bad options, breached margin, owe broker money debt.

>>27138442
And I'm saying that the part you don't get is that you are not going under because you sold calls, you are going under because you are trading on margin. If you trade a stock on margin you can still get fucked.

>>27138776
I...do not disagree. If anything it sounds like you are now agreeing with me.

You tards who always post the VW graph forget that the stock price has already gone up by more than +1500% since the beginning of the month, the VW squeeze went from €200 to €1000 which is comparably less at 400%. Going to $1000, the stock price would have to go up 4900% which is fucking insane in under a month.

>>27138655
>sane broker with a decent risk management allow similar things.

lmao mate. Sane. Brokers?
Box spread incident. Robinhood. Sane and broker don't belong in the same sentence these days.

>>27130660
>That is where most options traders end up.In debt.
>>27138749
>Like I said, i'm not talking about options, pleb. I'm talking about people taking out loans or using their life savings to buy GME at the current high.
Anon, I'm beginning to think you may be a legitimate retard.

>>27138920
Anon, robinhood is a meme broker. They are lucky that the dude who found the GUH bug was a retard.

>>27139033
oh, right. yeah, sure. I see the misunderstanding.

So, a lot of those people gambling (yoloing) their life savings on options cant really afford to.
Hence... end up in debt.

Suppose that wasn't very clear.

>>27139108
Yes. Yes, indeed.

>>27139108
>>27139135
And to be extra clear, I was bringing it up to mirror those throwing their savings into gme at like 400-500 usd

>>27137978
This

>>27139135
Yeah, and as I said here >>27138181
the point is not "options" but margin. I agree that people shouldn't gamble what they can't lose, but a msme stock on margin is not any less volatile than options.

>>27139314
Uh, sure, again I don't disagree at all with anything you said. I only mentioned options because thats how these people throw their life savings away quickest.

I'm just trying to make people understand WSB isnt a money printer.