/biz/ - Business & Finance

>Hedge funds make gains on thousands of different stocks for decades, despite making bad calls and constantly getting bailed out
>Nobody bats an eye
>Hedge funds make a bad call on one stock of a dying store chain
>The economy might collapse

Someone explain this to me, I'm stupid

>>27036269
Because the banks going into debt is the problem. Hedge funds hold an amazing amount of debt on books and the losses are multiplying heavily. In 2008 the bank bailout was 700b so if this 10xs it could actually collapse the markets lmfao

>>27036490
GOOD

>>27035645
Good. So many of us have been waiting for the ultimate crash for years. Turns out we just had to do it ourselves.

Hold that GME, fuck them.

>>27035645
their fault for shorting 250% of the float.

>>27036858
standing by with the needful. I do have 3@$1.3k open just to make sure I don't lose money. pic related got (((rejected))) so we'll see what happens next week.

>>27036490
This just proves that our economy, and entire way of modern life, really, is built on nothing. As soon as the right block in the Jenga tower of a debt-based economy goes, so does the entire thing.

>>27036490
Fuck them. Where are my tendies?

>>27035645
What happed to that ~20 trillion they got last year?

>>27036490
So we should make hedge funds illegal?

>>27035645
If you crash the economy you make the hedge funds rich though.
GME isn't the only thing they short.

>>27037419
I think we should go straight to making it illegal for goyim to own money

>>27035645
If all it takes for the economy to crash is one stupid kike's gamble to go wrong, then it deserves to go up in flames desu.

>>27037419
No, you should buy silver and get away from urban areas

>>27035645
It's going to do way more than that

>>27035645

>>27036490
ACCELERATE

>>27035645
they're just mad regular people are gonna profit on this. Keep holding guys and make them pay. Make 1929 look like a joke

>>27037419
We are way past the point that it will do any good. Solution for you is finding a way to minimize the damage to yourself.

>>27036853
This.

>>27037070
lmao stating this like it is some prophetic realization

How many dicks will the people who thought tying the US economy to betting on peoples' ideas failing which could get them in the red for infinity dollars have to suck to settle their debt? Cloning technology is getting there right?

$CLF bros

>>27035645
Yes

brainlets helping accelerate towards the great reset.... and guess what: now they can blame it on white supremacist domestic terrorists when the bottom falls out. you didn't think you were actually beating them did you?

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>>27038847
>>/pol/

>>27035645

The economy will be fine
These hedge funds will "crash" right
But that doesn't mean the buildings suddenly come tumbling down, the employees vanish like a thanos snap, and you look in your wallet to see your money has vanished.

These companies that got greedy and put their dick in the cookie jar will simply be absorbed by companies with better practices and integrity.

The US Govt will make a good chunk of change from the taxes we make on our gains, and this will revitalize cash flow into stimulus aid and other infrastructure like cybersecurity.

The gains we take will either likely get reinvested, or spent, surging cash flow into commerce.

They want to make you panic at the thought of smoke from this wildfire, but really the healthiest thing for the economy would be to let it burn through all the corruption of wallstreet, and let new ventures spring to life in the fertile financial market that will follow

>>27036490
And here. We. Go.

>>27035645
They would rather crash the economy than pay the poor man
That's fucking insane. Who is taking these fees?

>>27035645
> money moving from singular hedge fund to innumerable normal people will crash the economy

>>27039007
I'm not going to your containment board glowie

Someone explain something to me.

Can the shorters hold their position and pay an interest? Or do they absolutely have to exit their position and buy stock?

>>27041160
im telling you to keep your schizo posts over there

>>27040629
>Who is taking these fees?
Banks, other companies, government. Same song and dance as 08.

>>27040011
You were right until
>The US Govt will make a good chunk of change from the taxes we make on our gains, and this will revitalize cash flow into stimulus aid and other infrastructure like cybersecurity.

You forget who runs this shit? Everything the government steals is going to the poor oppressed niggers and kikes.

>>27038296
you couldn't point to the weakness in the death star two weeks ago

>>27035645
good, i hope it does. have your crypto ready. not your keys not your coins.

>>27035645
Just imagine the future anon. History will talk about us, the autists that wanted to buy a stock so much that they caused the biggest economic crash in the history of mankind, kek

>>27038000
based digits for based comment

>>27039006
Gas makes you really skinny.....

>>27036490
Good. Burger stocks could drop to 0 tomorrow and i would only lose 400. The fact that the hedgies are losing money makes me rock hard.

>>27041714
The shorters and their insurers are in more debt then they can pay in their lifetimes. Shorting is illegalized and they never have a cent to their name again, recreating a short lived debtor's prison they live and work in for the rest of their lives.

>>27040011
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>But that doesn't mean you look in your wallet to see your money has vanished.

unironically, it will. it will be inflated away to dimes, maybe quarters, on the dollar - maybe pennies eventually. i for one welcome it, accelerate!

>>27035645
how many weak minded white people are going to feel guilty and end their life?
LOL America is doomed. China and Russia will be laughing.

>>27041714
Their interest payments skyrocket as the stock balloons in price. They're hemorrhaging billions of dollars each day just to pay off the interest of borrowing those shares.

Eventually they'll reach a point where they simply cannot afford the interest payments anymore, at which point the margin call comes, and they get liq'd. Then the price shoots up when they're broker forces them to buy at whatever price they can, which causes other shorters to get liq'd too, which means they also need to buy back in to the market, which causes the price to shoot up even more, etc etc etc

>>27038847
> one stock going up collapses the economy
Do you realize how fucking stupid this is? If the economy is that fragile it should collapse.

>>27040011
This.
Whatever hedge funds or investment funds that tank as a result of this kind of deserve it...

>>27035645
>27035645
>you took out a loan
>pay it back

>>27036490
Look, that's nice and all, but I just REALLY like gamestop stocks.

>>27035645
Buy spy puts then ya goof and protect yourself.

They'll be alright when those 1200 biden bucks come in

>>27040011
I agree, but witnessing how the whole Corona thing is being dealt with really makes me wonder if they actually want a good economy

>>27036490
I wait with baited breath for that day to come.

>>27044046
The market is based on the idea that it acts somewhat rationally. Everyone and their grandmother buying GME is an extremely irrational move caused by social media manipulation of the market so idk.

>>27042011
>newfag

>>27046262
just learn that word?

>>27036269
It's honestly one of the biggest gaslights I've ever seen. That this can even happen is evidence that the system is broken. All people on reddit and here are doing is pointing out Wallstreets deceit. But then the media turns around and acts like we're the bad guys here. It's like discovering someone is living a lie, and when you call them out on it, they get angry at you for ruining what they had going. As if they're entitled to you looking the other way while they go on with their fuckery.

Money is retarded

>>27045293
A company the sells enjoyable media that can't just be taken from you by always online shenanigans or whatever is valuable. Especially when a hedge fund has shorted their stock into the dirt. Are you ready to reap what you've sown anon?

>>27036490
ACCELARATE

>>27035645
Thats the goal.

>>27037272
there are no tendies in the economic collapse. only bugs.

>>27036490
>banks
>going into debt
>problem

>he doesn’t know.

>>27042750
shut your filthy mouth you fucking retard. your parents didn’t beat you enough. go whine to your little discord echo chamber. or learn to take any amount of personal responsibility instead of being a little racist shitter.

>>27045293
>rational
Yes the rationality of it was to destroy the white middle class and have them overrun by brown communist hordes to enslave them all. Oh well didn't work, new game now

>>27035645
This is an easy economy to collapse and fix. Just get over this Kung flu fear and it goes back to normal.

>>27048476
If it was actually valuable it wouldn't constantly be closing down stores.

>>27041714

If i am not mistaken i believe They can sell premium on rolling credit spreads too and keep the ball rolling for a good while. Basically the idea is that one can buy and sell options week after week, so every week if they take a loss, they can simultaneously be credited a similar amount of money as they move the goalpost further down the road in the hopes that one week they will officially be on target and recoup some of the losses.

>>27037070
yep.
people realizing money is a lie
and the supposed meritocracy is a lie
it all comes tumbling down

>>27048976
Ain't got shit anyways we can do NG++

>>27036269
Jewish institutions consciously take up massive amounts of debt so that the tax payer has no choice but to bail them out if they make a disastrous trade. Unless they want their pensions and homes to be worth 40% less. And the goyim wouldn't want that, would they?

We’re in the lunch dip.
Hold strong

>>27036490
GameStop causes multi-billion dollar loss in hedge funds. Economy is still in shambles due to democrats retardation over nothingburger covid scares. Millions still out of work, millions more losing jobs in anticipation of Biden tax plan. The whole jenga tower comes tumbling down due to fucking gamers of all things. America finally gets an actual civil war while geriatric tone-deaf Biden "Calls for Unity" while simultaneously demonizing and dehumanizing the citizens, not the hedge funds. GOD BLESS CLOWN WORLD. Holy shit am I so happy I learned how to 3d-print lower receivers, rifle my own barrels, and reload ammo at home. I am about to make a killing in the apocalypse.

>>27036490
>just 10xs
Do you know how much money would need to be dumped into it from whales let alone individual amateurs?

>>27049713
>I am about to make a killing in the apocalypse.
Profit-wise and legally I mean

They've set it up this way because they know retail can't beat them without a small cabal of institutional investors the SEC can dunk on.

>>27036490

But money is debt, when a dollar is created, a dollar of debt is also created. If there was no debt, there would be no money. Money is debt. Debt is money.

>>27048976
believe it or not, crashing the american economy is the surest way to slow down the bugs enough to collar them into a one world government.

>>27037272
kek

>>27049766
You know if it keeps going up all the shorts will have to dump money into it right? this might not be good lmao
>>27049999
jesus nice quads with a wise but empty statement

Put all your chips in this dip!!

>>27049180
Yeah but probably more due to wanting lower labor price and larger consumer base. Immigration policy shouldn't be up to the market to decide though.

>>27050235
It'll take something like a full week to cover all their shorts assuming they didn't restructure, which you know they have.

If people can't keep this going for another full 2 weeks, it's a nothing burger.

ACCELERATE

>>27050553
I agree it would take a historic amount of cash flow to make it happen, its unlikely. However this is the biggest news story of the year so far and alot of people are realizing how much bullshit goes on in wallstreet and government economics. Might end up actually happening lol.

>>27049999
Yes. Money is created every time you buy something on loan. Therefore don’t or do it a little as possible. Banks want your debt not your money. Your money is a liability to them. Your debt is an asset.

couldn't invest in GME, but I invested in AMC and Nokia

>>27050500
Nah bub, the banking system was just a tool, this goes way deeper than turning a buck

>>27036269
It's simple anon.
Influential individuals have for decades corrupted the centralized institutions in which we all place our trust to be ethical and fair.
In reality this institutions have been doing everything in their power to preserve the wealth and power of said individuals which brings us to 2008 when wall street convinced us their degenerate gambling was not their loss, but everyone's loss so and we printed 4 trillion dollars to bail them out.
now they plaid yet another degenerate gamble, shorting 110% of the floated stock of GME, usually nothing happens, they win liek they always do, they're called market makers for a reason, they have so much fucking money that if their short you, you fall no buts or ifs, the sell pressure is enourmous and ain't nobody stepping in to help the true value of your company lmao.
Exept this time degenerates realized the opportunity and beated hedgefunds at their own game.


How can the economy crash when 70 billion dollars are moved from the wealthies people on earth to average people?
WE ARE THE ECONOMY BITCH, NO BAILOUTS, GET FUCKED.


Mail your local senator, congressman, fucking everyone, MAKE A STAND.

>>27049999

Wow you literally just Quoted Zeitgeist Addendum, didnt you. I love that documentary

And actually more than 1 dollar is eventually created for every dollar, look at derivatives. There is about 100 trillion in the worlds total money supply, and something like like 300 trillion

>>27051115
when has mailing your senator or congressman ever worked

Good burn it all down, their usury kike scam ends now

IT'S OUR GREAT FUCKING RESET NOW NIGGERS!! FUCK ZOG!!

>>27050811
The money itself is a loan. We owe interest on all money that exists.

>>27051118

Sorry i mean total debt.

World Total Money: 100 trillion
Tall world debt: 300$ trillion

There is not enough to go around, the amount of money in the money supply would not to ever pay the mmoney indeptz that isbowed

>>27038000
Chinese boots on the ground EOD?

>>27048470
he's got the bog stance pic

>>27051378
When the mail is a direct threat.

I BOUGHT AT 350 WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD I DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>they don't know about the reverse alpha bi-fractional squeeze

Lmao... Next 5 minutes it's over

>>27053572
sell soft hands

>>27053572
HODL with diamond hands you faggot

>>27052103
Explain. I don’t pay interest on the cash in my pocket. I earn interest on my cash in a bank.

>>27035645
RENDER UNTO CAESAR FAGGOTS.

HOLD.

>>27051661
reap what you sow

>>27047020
And the funny thing is that NO ONE believes the media. So the people go online to check what's going on and find out what's going on and join in. I'm surprised with how stupid these media "personalities " and our aristocracy are. If they let the people short squeeze and then quietly bailed out the hedge funds/involved banks nothing of the sort would happen. But they had to feel righteous and convince everyone that they are the good guys and, as a result orchestrated their own demise basically. This battle may be lost, but this is just a beginning of what's going to happen next. And the aristocracy's response will be as dimwitted as what we are seeing now and the civil war won't have to fire 1 shot.

>>27035645
$70 billion isn’t shit to these people

>>27053572
if it money that you're going to need sell, if it's a risk you're willing to take hodl.
if you're willing to trade I would get out and try to get back in the 130-140 area, hell even 190 is aight little pain to get out and decent upside.
desu not trading GME if u got in u got in for the memes,like who the fuck knows really

>>27054444
god damn there are like 3 trips in this thread and 2 quads

>>27050800
Checked and this.
The battle may be lost if the people won't keep it up, but this just ensures millions more of the redpilled people from both sides of the manufactured red vs blue bullshit, left vs right hate. This unity isn't going anywhere, seems like.

>>27044855
Biden is going to delay that $800 as long as possible.

>>27038000
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>>27054444
This is a blessed thread

>>27055107
800? We can’t do 600 right now. Well have your 300 in by the end of the month, just wait

>>27051378
When you paid their election costs.

>>27035645
That’s the fucking point.

>>27053456
in minecraft

>>27055597
>t. Soros and Hedgies

>>27037038
>their fault for shorting 250% of the float.

Is the float still at 250%? Or have paperhands been playing into the heggies hands today?

>>27037616
This is why all the other hedgies want melvin to fail miserably.

>>27054444
Cool FUD glowie, do you post this on the Melvin discord as well, or?

>>27054444
yes that is actually what is happening to kike street at this very minute. Glorious isnt it?

>>27035645

>>27036490
Ive got an idea. how about they do what normal people do when they lose it all gambling, sell your cars, boats, watches all that shot.

>bohoho are accounts are low plz help

no how about fuck you, figure it out. I bet someone would buy those shiny BoA buildings you have all over the country for some serious coin.

>>27035645
Nah, the Jews and good goys will just order Game Stop and other to issue new shares at favorable prices for their hedge fund buddies while retail gets fucked like usual. It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the club.

>>27035645
My only regret it that's it's not in 2029, would have made for a great centennial.

>>27037721
I think people are really waking up to the fact that there is a reason they been kicked out of over 109 countries and counting, its not merely a coincidence....

>>27041714
they could, would you wanna pay 30% interest on a loan into perpetuity to hold a position that's already lost billions, taken you to near bankruptcy and the whole world is trying to BTFO?

Sure I might YOLO it at that point but really what do you think is gonna happen?

We can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent.

>>27040011
this guy gets it

>>27052251
Cramer assumes a bunch of bumpkins got super lucky and need to take gains before getting caught holding the bag. He does not realize the Jews all taught the goyim how to play the scorpion to their frog in the middle of the river. When the clown show starts to get really evil and perverted it's time to stop mashing the "send in the clowns," button. But you know, that how scorpion and frog bit caught on like wild fire and now everybody is playing the scorpion.

>>27035645
SHORT LADDER ATTACK INCOMING HOLD HOLD HOLD UP VOTE AND SHARE

In the last hour of trading some of us are predicting they will launch a short ladder attack to make it look like it’s selling off to trick you into selling your shares. Their goal is to go under $115 to get out of their expiring contracts. This will be a major victory for them.

Hedge funds sell back and forth with one another at lower and lower bids in rapid succession, tricking algorithms into thinking there is a mass sell off when there actually isn’t. (They do this to scare off retail investors to engineer a sell off). Once the attack is over, the stock will normally go back up due to its demand. Then they will rinse and repeat their attack, each time hoping to chip away more and more retail investors. Most people in here know this, so if retail investors are selling, it’s unlikely that it’s anyone at all.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HOLD HOLD HOLD! DON'T GET PAPER HANDS DURING THE LAST HOUR, ITS WHAT THEY WANT!

GET RID OF THE STOP LOSSES, THEY WILL TRY HUNT THEM

>>27055353
Were going to have to delay your 100 for another month, don't worry, in 2 months your free 90 dollar stimulus with come.

>>27056616
That's just it, they are playing with money that not only isn't theirs, it's money that isn't even money, not printed, issued or in a virtual bank vault.

And if they get caught it's tennis jail.
The only way to dissuade is to make the debts follow them forever.
Let them spend the rest of their lives working low end jobs paying back every cent that isn't used to cover their hostel bunk bed and rolled oats dinner.

>>27036853
based

>>27054000
It's inflationary cash in your pocket so you lose value as it sits there

The shorts have been covered. There is no squeeze.

>>27059703
Don't care, not selling.

>>27054000
checked
based retard also.

>>27058317

powerful time digits

Did you think this would be easy, to take back everything that has been bled out from you, your family, your friends, over the years?

Did you think the final level of this game would be a cake walk?

Did you think that final boss would just roll over?

Did you think that they wouldn't call in reinforcements?

Did you think that to beat the final boss, you wouldn't have to go deep into the forest? To the bottom of the sea? To the edge of light?

Did you know that you are the hero of your story?

Did you know that you got to this point with a slingshot, a rock, and a mountain of courage?

Did you know that as you stared into that forest, into the bottom of that sea, with the light behind you and only darkness ahead, that millions of other heroes, just like you, appeared?

Did you know that those very rocks you hold, combined with everyone else’s rocks, can hammer the blade that we hold to the boss’s throat?

Did you know that you have gone further than anyone else has before?

Do they not know this?

Do they not know, that at 36, for the FIRST TIME in my life, i turned net worth positive through hard work despite terrible circumstances?

Do they not know that I poured all of my newfound positive net worth into this cause?

Do they not know that I have seen poverty, food stamps, and dreams that I thought would never be fulfilled?

Do they not know that I am willing to go back to that?

Hold. The. Fucking. Line.

“If you see me in a fight with a bear, pray for the bear”

>>27038847
Their whole plan is entirely dependent on the success of capitalism as we know it. This is literally dethroning the same billionaires that want it.

>>27038847
The great reset is about proving that corporations are better than governments at taking care of people.
They would crash the economy, point fingers at the government and take over.

But they're not in control of this crash, so the ball can go either way now.

>>27035645
i called it last week. this is going to be the catalyst for the next 2008 great recession

>>27039007
>>/Reddit/

>>27037419
after this is over naked shorts/options should me made illegal
the possible unlimited loss situation makes them unethical
this is what caused this
>hedgefunds should ironically do the exact opposite - balance out positions to hold value in every thinkable situation

>>27052852
They blocked GME, shill.

>>27052251
lol, what a corrupt faggot mlao

>>27036490
Good i hope it does but it better take the hedgefunds, brokerages, wallstreet, and politicians down with them.

>>27036490
Good. Accelerate.

>>27035645

This is extremely stupid, even for /biz/ standards

>>27057965
>Cramer assumes a bunch of bumpkins got super lucky and need to take gains before getting caught holding the bag.

He probably knows how bad shit really is for the hedge funds. He also had some insider infos back then before the 2008 crash and was regularly complaining about how bad shit is going down back then.

>>27055808
It was at 189 last i checked today