/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>26829051
suck my cock commie fuck

>>26829051
>>26797983

>>26829051
no thanks, gonna pick any other social ideology except the one of that faggot NEET

>>26829051

Go to Twitter and never come back

No this is not Marxism. This is free market vs crony capitalism

>>26829051
How the fuck is communism the answer when the kikes are being destroyed by free market capitalism?

>>26829051
Elites are democrats / socialists get fucked jew.

>>26829470
This. We got our first taste of actual capitalism in a while and it tastes refreshing. The countdown on socializing the losses and drafting legislation to prevent this in the future is starting however.

>>26829051
Fuck hedgies
Fuck commies

>>26829470
Do you actually believe this? That crony capitalism is not the final form of the “free market”.

>Hate Jewish tricks as much as the next guy??! Us too! So let's defeat it with this new Jewish revolutionary movement! That'll show 'em!

Get fucked.

>>26829051
Fighting corruption is every mans obligation. Young commies really think that corruption = capitalism. Corruption comes from centralized power.

>>26829051
>Guten Tag, please feel free to listen to my famous opera "Das Rheingold". It's on YT: https://youtu.be/yFCFq6WWmGE?t=4536

>>26829912
Can you describe how the current situation is "free market"?

>>26829387
Meta stonetoss.

>>26829051
Go back bunker tranny.

>>26829644
Checked and this.

>>26829051
Fuck communism, this would be true capitalism at play if the dirty kikes didn't rig the game. I want real capitalism back because what we got now is a sham

>>26829051
>Hey guys, we should replace one vile jewed up ideology with another vile jewed up ideology! I swear, this one is actually going to be the one that gets the heebs up to the top... I mean at the top!

> NEETs buy ownership shares in a corporation
> "Hey guys, we're really sticking it to the bourgeoisie"
Has any modern communist actually bothered reading Marx?

>>26829051
>”being anti-big business and marginally anti-capitalist makes you secretly one of us!!”
No faggot, the fact that it’s near impossible for you HRT riddled trannies to even acknowledge the Jew in an even neutral fashion says enough. Let alone that your ideological ass buddies in power are currently diametrically opposed to our existence as a race makes it null. There’s a third option we’re just fine with.

>>26829051
No the true way forward is Nazbol gang. Unification of the workers require racial hegemony.

>>26830769
Someone post the Dragonball Z parody this guy did. My shitty phone IP won’t let me post pics.

>>26829051
>just hand all your earnings over to the government for 'safekeeping' instead bro

Zizek was right! The American populist right holds more revolutionary potential!

>>26830739
there was never any such thing lmao

Based. I'm in

>>26829051

Communism is a jewish ideology, and these hedge funds are all run by jews. Maybe more judaism is not what we need in this country.

>>26829051
You are way too retarded to understand that the hedge funds and so on are literally the commies that decide ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that happens in the country. EVERY SINGLE LAW is approved by them.

YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED I'M NOT EVEN SURPRISED THAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK YOU ARE BEATING CAPITALISM. CAPITALISM IS LITERALLY WHAT GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO COMBAT COMMUNISM AND THEY WANT TO STOP IT (NOT ALLOWING TO BUY THE STOCKS).

>>26829051
>bourgeoisie
fuck off

>>26829051
>pandemic
lmao you dont actually think... no... unless?

>>26833441
>the hedge funds are literally the commies

Oh... anon...

>>26829051
marx sucks

>>26829470
>>26829644
>>26829795
>>26829805
>>26831046
>>26833441
/biz/ is so fucking based. this gives me hope because it's fucking depressing going to reddit and seeing trannies saying "this is a revolution of the workers against the rich white 1%"

>>26834532
> it's fucking depressing going to reddit
And that's exactly why I don't even go there.

>>26834021
commies are just oligarchs that dropped the pretense of free markets

>>26833142
This. Free markets and central banks are incompatible.

>>26829051
We're all having fun with this, but the difference is we just want the same rules to apply to everybody. Unlike the commies though, we don't want to make it so nobody can make it.

>>26831877
Killing all the Jews would solve nothing. Absolutely retarded. This type of behavior arises naturally from the incentive structure inherent to capitalism. Whites behave exactly the same when given the opportunity. Jews are just over represented at the top because they are a standard deviation more intelligent, concentrated in big cities, value education highly as a culture, etc.

You know, when I started this thread I didn't expect it to be a very popular opinion but I didn't expect this level of reality ignorance. It's incredible, I couldn't get this much propaganda from /pol/ if I tried.
I gotta know more, do you guys actually think socialism is a threat? Do you actually think the democrats are a leftist party?

>>26833441
Read a book please.

>>26829051
National-Bolshevism is like this, but without the gaystuff.

>>26834532
You're right. Retardeds are saying shit like "muhh we the workers are beatin the 1%!!" while utterly trading stocks.
You guys want want socialized means of production? Do it the capitalist way. Each one of you buy a stock from the company you want it to be socialized. If everyone owns part of the company, then tecnically it is socialized via capitalism. Communism is just retarded, kys. Karl Marx dude even proposed "change currency to muh unaccumulative labor tokens!". Just retarded, I'm not going to work if I can't accumulate shit. Fuck you commies,

>>26834856
Ok friend. Use your collective power to take down those oligarchs

>>26835075
Communism and central banks have one thing in common: jews

>>26829912
Crony capitalism is the final stage of democracy, a free market can only be preserved under an authoritarian model.

>>26835498
>Read a book please.
>This type of behavior arises naturally from the incentive structure inherent to capitalism.

Let me guess, "The Communist Manifesto", right?

GET THE FUCK OFF THIS BOARD YOU PIECE OF SHIT COMMIE SHITFAG

fpbp

>>26835435
Listen, amerimutt, you can spread leftist propaganda in USA as much as you want, but if I hear you speaking this shit in my country, where millions were tortured and killed in the name of this inhumane ideology, I will kill you with my bare hands.

>>26829051
Lick my asshole commie retard

>>26829051
Fuck marx, all mah bois are mercantilist charterists

>>26829051
Except capitalism is the other side of the coin communism was literally designed by bankers Marx descends from the Lurie family lmfao

COMMUNISTS ARE NOT PEOPLE

>>26835435
Here you are getting the hard truth, at /pol/ you would get larpers saying "we need national socialism" or "the only way is going third position!!!" that's why it gets you more triggered.

>>26836187
Based. You from Poland?

>>26829051
shut up commie you deserve the same

>>26836604
No, I am from Russia.

>>26829051
marxists tongue my anus

>>26831877
whoever created that comic completely ignored that capitalism is at fault for the refugee crisis
you fucking retards don't even have the tiniest capability of understanding your own economic system, faggots. I hope that neolib boot tastes amazing

>>26836684
A lot of Russians still praise communism/socialism as far as I know. People that usually hate it are from Estona/Poland, or somewhere from eastern europe.

Do you know people that still like it in Russia?

>>26836187
Bot detected, I didn't say a single country
>>26836597
I love it, I found my new favourite board to shitpost on. So do you actually think socialism is a threat?

>>26835573
>You guys want want socialized means of production? Do it the capitalist way.
what did he mean by that

>>26829051
based. I'm sensing a shift in the zeitgeist.

socialism by 2040 confirmed

If you guys actually studied Marx you would realize that he was completely right about the problems of capitalism, but his solutions were naive and unrealistic

>>26832265

>>26829051
>communism
>more jew shit
fuck off retarded shill how fucking stupid are you to fall for more jewish tricks

>>26837039
dont care, do it on your own terms, but don't get near me. Or don't try to violate other's individual rights. Also don't get near children.

>>26829290
so...is this the literal switchening? Once shit falls apart, the overnight millionaires aren't going to be putting money into the banks they just fucked over right? It's going to go into BTC, ETH & probably fucking XRP of all things. This is it faggots, this is the big one we've been waiting for.

>>26837534

>>26829051
Fuckin tranny thread. Go back.

>>26829051
Don't try, most of the people here have /pol/ brainrot. Just keep exploiting the system on your own, and fight the good fight.

>>26837400
Marxist class analysis is pretty useful yeah, but of course communism as an ideology stinks

>>26829051
Distributism > Capitalism > fedualism > Communism

>>26837723

>>26835291
Wow yes power is a game with winners and losers, didn’t require the verbose circling to acknowledge that fact dumbass. Perhaps people might be innately incentivized to be at the top, but please give another long winded answer that rides instead of sucks a circumcised dick this time.

>>26837203
He's saying you're free to implement a socialist society in a capitalist society.

If a few hundred socialists wanted to go out and start a township in the middle of nowhere, they could go do that. If they wanted all business in that township to be employee owned, they could do that. If they wanted to be self-sufficient to no rely on capitalist society, they could go do that.

>>26836991
>Do you know people that still like it in Russia?
Unfortunately, yes.
There are old people with nostalgia, but they are not really socialistic, and there are zoomers without brains that consume, ironically, western propaganda about how good USSR was.

>>26837923

>>26829470
>I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating — partly in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise), are forced up to quite an unreasonable level and then, for the most part, collapse. In this way, I have made over £400 ($57,000 in 2021) and, now that the complexity of the political situation affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. It’s a type of operation that makes demands on one’s time, and it’s worth while running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money.
>— Karl Marx

>>26837584
I'm a socialist not a libertarian. What, you don't like the idea of not having to worry about rent?

>>26838024
I wonder if it has anything to do with the current Russian oligarchy being utter shit

>>26838139

>>26829051
Kill yourself commie faggot reddit nigger

>>26838003
>If a few hundred socialists wanted to go out and start a township in the middle of nowhere, they could go do that. If they wanted all business in that township to be employee owned, they could do that. If they wanted to be self-sufficient to no rely on capitalist society, they could go do that.

But they won't do that, instead they use da gumint to force everyone else to lick their boot.

>>26829912
Yes. We dont have a capitalist system. We have a corporatist capture of capitalism which is wearing its corpse, and masquerading as it. Fuck communism. Its even fucking worse.

>>26837400
>he was completely right about the problems of capitalism
Yes, but he used wrong basis. Value is not generated by labor, value is decided by the market. And businessmen are not "parasites", they are visionaries who can guide other people for everyone's profit.
>his solutions were naive and unrealistic
And they were even disproven: theoretically and practically. It was foolish to try them in 20th century, and it is completely insane to try them in 21st.

>>26838193
>not having to worry about rent
>btw your taxes are going up above the difference of paying rent for 'the common good', thanks for the voluntary contribution :^)

Right wingers have been increasingly schizofrenic as of late. Now they literally think that capitalism is communism,

>>26838193
Already don't need to. you had 3 years to buy LINK, not my fault you missed it.

>people conflating the greedy, manipulative rich with "greedy, manipulative jews"

there IS an overlap you know, but it certainly does not apply to all jewish people
being antisemitic is retarded
being anti-rich is based

>>26837872
Lmao

I’d rather not see land owners and farmers be slaughtered

>>26836684
Yeah capitalism works bro

>>26829051
>bourgeoisie
sorry the word is "kikes". you meant to say "kikes"
also pic related
also sneed

>>26838368

>READ THE JEWISH QUESTION
>READ THE JEWISH QUESTION
>READ THE JEWISH QUESTION
>READ THE JEWISH QUESTION

>>26838339
It has, but if there was true freedom of speech and freedom of political activity, I would actually expect moderately violent nazis to win, because Middle Asian immigrants are hated literally by every ethnicity inside Russia.

>>26839071
>anarkiddie lumpenprole strawman

those fags are just useful idiots

>>26838785
>We dont have a capitalist system

capitalism is when based and epic people such as myself and my in-group win, therefore, since we are losing, this has to be communism

>>26829795
Fucking lmao you retard, you fell for their division campaign

>>26839359

>>26829051
Commies are loser demons wishing to dominate their betters by pretending to be on their side. Fuck off and kill yourself faggot.

>>26838523
I think when I retire, I'll start a township which the explicit goal to create a functioning communist society - just to show every faggot socialist that if they'd stop whining, they could mind their business and live in peace away from normal society.

>>26839071
Amerimutt communism is very gay, but actual communists are actually about that life (picrel, naxalites)

>>26839703

>>26839297
>believing pre-1993 commie statistics
You can do better than that.

>>26829051
just call them for what they are
kikes

>>26829051
no thanks faggot, I like having food

>>26839584
lmao thank you, this thread is politically incoherent

>>26829051
Dilate.
>>26829470
this

>>26839952

Nazbol Z by Jinjerzilla. Get his book while you can!

>>26838853
And many on the left view stock trading as a form of communist praxis. Extremists are schizos; what else is new?

>>26829051
>communism
Not even once.

>>26834532
capitalism reigns supreme

>>26829470
Only difference between free market capitalism and crony capitalism is time and lobbying

the /pol/ brainrot hits like a truck apparently

hope you lads snap out of it

read Paul Cockshott

>>26829051
fuck off

>>26839297
>millions starve to death
>"but muh GDP!!!!"

>>26840539
niggers tongue my anus

>>26829795
Holy shit your dumb as a bag of rocks

>>26839297
You are right. It is neither capitalism nor communism which caused USSR to fail.

It was their shitty slav genes

>>26840706
>starving after 1954

retard

>>26840230
holy fucking based

>>26840539
>read Paul Cockshott

>>26839567
>>26839900
Those fags are your constituency, and your only proxy representation to the physical world outside of your LARP parade. Better learn to love them lmao

>>26840967
this. real WHITE communism has never been tried

>>26840240
If it fucks over the institutions and the mega rich it kinda is, using the tools of capitalism to redistribute wealth is pretty textbook praxis for commies

>>26840006
Maddison analysed a multitude of factors other than official statistics
and >implying capitalist reports are any more legit

>>26841101
lol yeah it's rough in the west. hopefully based xi will do what is right and nuke all american population centres

>>26838003
>>26838523

Basically this. I'm done with you fucking socialists, you always rely on goverment to make your ideology work and eventually end up destroying value. If it is so good, I shouldn't be forced to cooperate.
Everyitime you retards defend these socialist shit you need a powerful figure to enforce it, because YOU ARE WEAK. You can't do shit by yourselves, can't fucking make enough food to sustain your community, can't get resources to manufracture guns for defense. Even if you get guns, it will be for "muh let's make a revolution and eat the rich!" and not for defending your new separated society.

>>26838193
>I'm a socialist not a libertarian. What, you don't like the idea of not having to worry about rent?

I already don't, I live in a familiar community with my familiy, which you socialists aimed to destroy many times. A traditional community that you socialists hate, because it protects our own private ownership of our means of production. You told someone to read a book before, read "origins of the family private property and the state" from friedrich engels. Despite he being right about the origins, his ideas for a communal family are just retarded. He basically wants everyone to be a fucking cuck, just like you.
I know why you socialists hate traditional families, besides private ownership of their means of production. It is because your own family is disfunctional, your father is a drug addict and beats your mother, hence you wish that no one had a family ever. But don't worry, not all families are like yours.

>>26841101
>implying neutered american liberals are communists

Imagine calling falling for the same media tricks you're supposed to be wary of

>>26839826
Do it. I would gladly take a vacation on it.
Also, make brutalist architecture, that would be cool.

>>26837400
False dialectic he literally writes about how it will induce the final revolution and the same bankers who invented communism will get their global government lol Bertrand russel writes about this too

>>26840969
Oh, thank you, Mr Commie, we are not starving to death, what a great victory of communism!
Just a little problem with having consumer goods, deficit, you know.
https://travelask.ru/blog/posts/12393-zapreschennye-foto-magazinov-sssr

>>26829051
Commies aren't people. They will all be killed.

>>26840969
>hey guys we eliminated the famine that we were directly responsible for, all we had to do was completely betray the founding principles of communism by replacing it with a market economy
>this is proof that communism works
kill yourself, pink-haired retard.

>>26842100
>posting commie memes
based retard

>>26841895
you realize people are starving right now in the richest countries with no food shortages, how is that better?

>>26841895
Every single factor relating to quality of life dropped severely after capitalism and many still havent recovered and no local anecdotes showing slight short-term supply issues will change it

>>26842206
It's a meme that ridicules their bible, you fucking dense mong.

>>>/wsg/3772072

>>26840967
look at the state of the average muttmerican and tell me a communist USA wouldn't collapse in a week.
Capitalism failed back when its proponents actually worked for a living. Imagine all these blue-haired suicidal twitter freaks working down coal mines

>>26842367
lazy people are dying in rich countries. nothing of value is lost

>>26840230
But doesn't vegeta get up from that fight and smoke goku? Hell he pretty much survives everything until he gets sat on by apehan

>>26842627
lol

>>26838785
Lenin saw this happening 100 years ago, he just called it imperialism, not corporatism or crony capitalism.

>Economically, the main thing in this process is the displacement of capitalist free competition by capitalist monopoly. Free competition is the basic feature of capitalism, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes, creating large-scale industry and forcing out small industry, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale industry, and carrying concentration of production and capital to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: cartels, syndicates and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of millions. At the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. Monopoly is the transition from capitalism to a higher system.

>if it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism. Such a definition would include what is most important, for, on the one hand, finance capital is the bank capital of a few very big monopolist banks, merged with the capital of the monopolist associations of industrialists; and, on the other hand, the division of the world is the transition from a colonial policy which has extended without hindrance to territories unseized by any capitalist power, to a colonial policy of monopolist possession of the territory of the world, which has been completely divided up.

>>26842478
Still a meme made by commies. I guess they have more self-awareness than chuds taking themselves 100% serious 100% of the time

>>26842367
>hunger before the 50s: 50% of the population
>hunger nowadays: 0.01% of the population

>>26842478
>communist manifesto
>their bible

The most based of retards

Killing communists is always self defense. You are useful idiots following the failed ideology of a century-dead trust fund NEET.

>>26829051
>the answer to hook nosed hedgefund managers is jewish bolshevism

Op are you retarded

>>26842367
You know what is actually better?
To kill every fucking commie retard on this planet.
I don't care who will kill you: your opponents or actual commies after your role of useful idiot is over. Those who defend communism will find only death.

>>26842817
kek, source?

>>26837706
Xrp will be the standard. Btc will eventually go down or be overtaken, since it uses a lot of power for one.

>>26829051
goys to really stick it to the jews is to give jews 100% state control over the capital, markets and food supply!

>>26842627
coincidentally this was the same argument that the soviets used

>>26829051
Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the same jewish coin.

>>26842988
cope, why do you care so much? socialism will win, just go along with it. your hate only makes it more fun.

>>26842840
>Communist
>Manifesto
>not their bible
You are the retard here.

>>26829051
KYS COMMIE FUCK

>>26842367
>you realize people are starving right now in the richest countries with no food shortages
Learn the difference between hunger and starvation. No one is starving in developed economies, as there is always a surplus of food. Those who are hungry are in their position because they spent their money on drugs or PS5s, not because of the system.

>>26843417
The manifesto is the least important work Marx wrote. It is a pamphlet for uneducated workers of the 19th century.

>>26843296
idc who dies as long as it's funny

>>26842817
straight up capitalist propaganda

>>26843049
just google it nigga. any data will say the same, aprox 8mm die today of starvation in the whole world, in a world of aprox 8b people. do the math

>>26843846
the great leap was hilarious though

>>26841778
You’re clearly not doing shit except talking big on a yuri hentai forum, at least those “liberals” are knocking over trash cans and harassing the elderly. I imagine much of your movement is quite the same.
Oh yeah and if you’re not American then your opinion means less than the shit under my boot anyways

>communism is the ideology that let's me enjoy watching greedy kikes squirm
WOW, SIGN ME UP FAGGOT OP

>>26829051
>bourgeoisie
Why is this term still used. Nobody is toiling in the fields anymore. If you're not starving, live in a 1st world country, and/or have been to college, you're bourgeoisie. American plumbers by the old measure are bourgeoisie.

>>26843394
Yes. Socialism WILL win.

>>26844055
what's capitalist propaganda? the USA climbing since the 50s?

>>26843665
>Those who are hungry are in their position because they spent their money on drugs or PS5s, not because of the system.

yeah man

>>26829795
you're a retard

Also, just to counter OP and his shit point. PIC RELATED.

>>26829051
>if you're enjoying the free market at work then you should look into communism
Get fucked commie retard

>>26844759
greatest damn country on earth, dont you forget it

wait are you guys not memeing?

>>26829051
The ideology that puts one oligarch in charge of the whole country? Fuck off communist fuck. This was an example of LIBERTARIANISM! The free market did this! And now the oligarchs are trying to regulate the market, because free markets are beneficial to the little guy, NOT big corpos.

Mostly Jews, like Marx, are behind this

>>26845540
Fascists aren't capitalists. Just a gay, marxist meme to cope because fascists took manpower from commies last century.

>>26846362
True, privatization isn't capitalist

>>26845540
There is literally nothing wrong with this. The people at the top should feel rooted and in touch and have a love for their lessers. The health of the nation is directly correlated to the health of themselves.
What we have now is a bunch of rootless kikes who can flee to Israel once they have bled the country dry.
Someone has to lead, unless you believe in some sort of faggot utopian hippy commune, but they only work on a tiny scale.

>>26833441
The hedgies that that made sure bernie sanders would never be elected are communists? Wow didn’t know that

>>26846779
They didn't privatize. Mussolinni was in favor of taxing the rich to fund public works like railroads and schools.

>>26846847
THE HEDGIES THAT MADE SURE THAT THE MASS OF DEMS SHEEP WOULD STILL VOTE THEM.
BE HONEST FOR ONCE, BERNIE WOULD HAVE HAD NO CHANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY ROBBED HIM TWICE FROM BEING THE ACTUAL CANDIDATE

>>26846362
this but unironically

>>26830261
>new Jewish revolutionary movement!
Marx was anti-Semitic and called people Niggers

Communism was subverted by (((them))) just as capitalism has been subverted by (((them)))

>>26829051
Didn't Marx also make money on stock trading?

>>26847239
nigger redditors are here

>>26847541
Selfish AND retarded

>>26847798
>hehe I will say nigger, that way they will stop posting the things I don't like

>>26847622
Yeah he did. He saw it as a good way to take money from his enemy.

>>26837393
lol whos your dear leader AOC
hahahaahahaaaaaaaaahaa

>>26829051

>>26847079
>>26847541
lol

https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.20.3.187
https://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht

>>26829051
I’m gonna dip my cock in their gene pool

>>26829051
Marxism is literally the most crony of capitalism where the state owns everything

>>26848043
>hehe I will give up my freedoms to the state! I'm retarded teehee
whatever nigger faggot

>>26848103
AOC is a liberal and a traitor to the working class.

>>26848161
Damn boy these jews were based af

>>26848343
Pseudo private companies that are actually just government funded institutions aren't capitalism.

>>26829051
fuck off marx faggot