/biz/ - Business & Finance

Now, back in the summer, a few smart value investors like Michael Burry of the Big Short fame and RoaringKitty on YouTube saw this level of short interest and decided to start buying stock, recognizing that the price of the shares had been artificially driven down by the high level of short interest and that the fundamental qualities of the business were actually a lot healthier than the share price reflected, so they started buying up stock.

Then once these smart investors made these purchases, other people started to follow suit, either because they saw their analysis of the stock and agreed with it and bought in, or simply because they saw the stock trending in an upwards direction in bought in. Doesn't really matter. Then other events happened which drove the stock price up higher, like Chewy executives getting involved with the company and GameStop having a good winter because of the new console launches.

At no point in this situation did the short interest decrease significantly, in fact its only increased relative to the float. And the price has absolutely skyrocketed during that time.

Because the short sellers are contractually obligated to buy the stock back at some point, those holding the stock can essentially dictate the price that needs to be paid for it through the market. And since the short interest is so high, those obligated to buy back the stock might not even have enough money to even cover it if they started buying immediately. (2)

>>26797983
i didnt read any if that but now i want to go watch the big short again

Now you might ask, if the funds who were short on gamestop cannot cover their obligations, what happens. Well, because they are contractually obligated, if they cannot continue to post collateral with the institutions they sold the stock short through to cover their rising debts (meeting the margin call), they will be forcibly liquidated in order to try to cover. But since they are short well over 100% of the stock, they can't cover. So even after they are liquidated, there will still be an unfulfilled obligation, which would be assumed by their prime broker. Prime brokers are investment banks who take on risks like this for hedge funds in the event that the fund makes bad trades and is forcibly liquidated. Because of the 2008 crash (when Bears Stearns failed) counterparty risk is now usually spread out, it's not assumed just by one bank on behalf of one fund, but by multiple banks to reduce the risk of any one bank failing because of bad trades made by one hedge fund.

However, the level of current exposure the banks have is actually mind blowingly large, and I'll explain why.

The fund who took the most prominent short position against GameStop in the media is Melvin Capital. Melvin Capital is one of the most known hedge funds that specialize in short selling. They have historically been very profitable for their clients, to the point that there is such a demand from investors (called limited partners in this situation) that the fund has turned away many clients in the past because they don't need them. This led to a rise in copycat funds who essentially just copy everything that Melvin does and get people who want to invest with Melvin but can't to invest with them. (3)

So if Melvin's risk is absorbed by 2 or 3 banks acting as prime brokers for Melvin, the counterparty risk for the trades made by Melvin actually spreads out to increase exposure to potentially every large investment bank which acts as a prime broker for hedge funds, because if they don't have exposure to Melvin's risk, they likely have exposure to other funds which copy Melvin.

But the story doesn't stop there. Because the price squeeze on the GameStop short sellers is enormous and theoretically infinite, GameStop stock is essentially just a money printer which has continually rising value in the market. Because the value of the equity continues to increase, GameStop shareholders are able to borrow more and more money against GameStop stock on margin through their brokers. Recognizing the financial reasons why this trade has gone so successfully in their favor, many of these traders are now using either more of their money or more money borrowed against GameStop stock (which is effectively a money printer) to also buy up stock in other heavily shorted companies to also apply pressure to those short sellers.

So the situation is quickly becoming one where the short sellers cannot cover even their position in GameStop let alone all of their other short positions because they just don't have enough money. As long as the stock holders continue to hold, the short sellers will not be able to meet their obligation, the value of the stock will continue to increase, the amount of money that can be borrowed against GameStop stock will increase, that borrowed money will then be used to further increase the pressure on other short sellers. (4)

And with so many short squeeze situations simultaneously happening, it is likely that every single bank who acts as a prime broker for these different short sellers who are sold short on different stocks has exposure to all of this risk. Risk that they cannot even cover themselves.

So the end result of all of this is likely going to be that every single investment bank in the country with exposure to this risk, which could be every single investment bank in the country, is forcibly liquidated. It's an even worse situation for the banks than the housing crash because in 2008 their level of exposure was actually limited, in this situation it is theoretically unlimited.

Check all of the big investment bank stocks, they've all been down for several days in a row. At this point in the game, it seems very likely that they're going straight into the ground. Power to the players. (5)

Interesting read.

How will crypto impact all of this?

I’m specifically thinking of the TradFi-DeFi bridge made possible by ALBT who partnered with the London Stock Exchange this morning.

i bought this shit coins in feb 2020 and sold in june kek

it's a chink shit boi, let it go

"mUh ETH killers" follow your narratives fuckboy

use poolz finance, that’s all I can advise you if you are not a idiot

>>26798178
so are you saying hold GME in to next week?

>>26798123
There are hedge funds that copy Melvin? Lol holy fuck.

I don't know about all of this but it seems people just really like games and this company and its stock.

>>26797983
>>26798001
>>26798054
>>26798123
>>26798178
Solid effortpost. Kind of scared what this is going to do the rest of my investments desu.

why going a shit ?
are you sure this retards try to shill anything profitable?
I don’t follow them and why should I do it?
I have BASE on my wallet and uniswap exchange portfolio
I have brains to use Cascade system and go for passive income

They aren't going to let this continue. They will simply void these options contracts. The law is dead and meaningless.

>>26798715
GameStop holds sentimental value to many people. There's a reason why 2007 was regarded as the golden year of gaming. It certainly reflects on $GME's charts.

>>26797983
People argue that short sellers have a purpose. Here, the short sellers found a bleeding target and realized they could manipulate it into bankruptcy in order to profit from a short.
There's no market function. It's predation.
NO ONE WOULD EVER DO IT IF THEY HAD A MIND FOR FUNDAMENTALS.
Why?
THE INSANE FUCKING RISK OF A SQUEEZE.
Oops, here we are.
Reap what you so motherfuckers.

So ur saying buy GME

>>26798777
The options contracts are a part of the story which I didn't cover, and they do play a large part in it. There isn't any mechanism to just void contracts though. Even when a situation where banks had similar enormous exposure, under different circumstances, happened in 2008 the only option the government could come up with was to just bail out the banks. The circumstances differ though in that the total exposure was limited. In this situation, it is unlimited.

>>26799023
Buy. Hold. Set a limit sell order for 1488$/share

>>26799140
>1488
go glow somewhere else

>>26797983
Is this something that all can unite against to stick it to the elites in minecraft? I imagine consequences will never be the same if antifa blm and proudboys alike united in minecraft.
Thanks for the cliff notes anon. I can't believe we are living through all these happenings.

>>26799140
I warn Mr.big brain to answer and give me a well detailed answer glowy

Fuck I'm scared OP. Is this going to be the final nail in the coffin for the US economy?

Jokes on you, I'm out that scam
Don’t believe such platforms can give you anything except scam shit
I better will listen to my fellas and go for cascade on BASE protocol
best market volume on uniswap and amazing benefits among other platforms for last months

>>26799341
When u actually read what he says and see it starts to make sense memes can very well crash the economy

>>26798178
Should we be collectively shorting the investment banks as some type of "inverse squeeze"?

>>26799386
Can we even short them? How can the everyday person short a stock?

>>26798178
>which could be every single investment bank in the country, is forcibly liquidated.
wouldnt this would require retail investors to collectively set sell prices to short holders at obscenely high values?
GME has a public float of 50million meaning if theoretically every single share was sold back to short holders at $10,000 thats a 500bn trade. These are extremely overestimated numbers and thats already not enough to bankrupt major institutional banks

>>26799371
The dead of freedom by freedom itself seems like a good ending, better than getting slowly bough by Chinese firms or stalled by Russian Hacks.

Buy GME MoFos

>>26799341
The question of what happens after if the investment banks who took on counterparty risk for the hedge funds are forcibly liquidated trying to cover the obligations of the funds they took on risk for which they cannot meet is one I'm incapable of answering. I don't know if there is anyone capable of answering it. The system wasn't designed to have a response for something like this happening because nobody believed it could possibly happen.

>>26797983
Anyone knows if he we could theoretically nuke chinese investments outside China like Epic games or Riot???

Maybe we could theoretically kill their source income of data and P2W money if we collectively pump autism.

Is it even possible or am I going Schizo???

>>26799499
Will shorting as a mechanism ever be used again? Can we short shorting?

>>26799499
So hypothetically, the market tanks. Who’s the winners? How can people make money in this adversity? There must be a way

>>26798777
Remember the part in the Big Short where he goes "they wrote me the check. They HAD to"?

It's happened before. It's gonna be huge fallout, and lots of smaller and medium hedges will be liquidated, and a lot of banks insolvent for a bit. It'll pass.

>>26799618
i'm using the VIX, ETFs like UVXY

>>26799499
>2020: next year can't be that bad
>2021:

>>26799618
Short it.

>>26798178
>which could be every single investment bank in the country, is forcibly liquidated.

>>26799618
Other countries who are basically free from debt of the country which just ceased to exist.

>>26799742
How? As a retail investor how do I short bank stocks?

>>26799499
They call Biden and tell him to Shut. It. Down. or the world will end, just like how the kikes pressured Obama in 2008. And he will do it. And we get left holding the bag.

>>26799341
Crash the stock market so what? Let it burn.

Crypto has actual use case value.

>>26799668
Elaborate?

>>26799792
Put options

>>26797983
Will they be writing new options contracts?

>>26799618
My theory is, charitable trusts with solid constitutions. Buy real estate holdings in small city downtowns where the weed/meth rate is low, surrounding rural land productive. Spend 1% to organize admin and collect donations for some cause.
I mean, they do it.

>>26799763
NGL, the death of all investment banks due to Gamestonk would be the definitive “epic gamer moment”.

>>26799499
If this is true then it just confirms my suspicions that it's all rigged for the 4iR and GR. It's all orchestrated, including this.

>>26799341
The fire rises.

>>26799618
The people are winning even if they don't own a single stock.

>>26799437
>only $500 billion in exposure
In 2008, Morgan Stanley had "only" $15 billion in exposure to the short sellers they sold credit swaps to. Do you understand the magnitude of the situation now?

>>26798178
>Check all of the big investment bank stocks, they've all been down for several days in a row. At this point in the game, it seems very likely that they're going straight into the ground.

So how does this affect US economy in general? When banks go down it's not usually a great sight for everybody. Bailouts? Or just nothingburger?

>>26799590
This isn't a "destroy random company I don't like very much" topic, so yes you're fucking nuts dude.

ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING

>>26799858
Can you be a little more detailed? I’m sorry I’m autistic, but I’m generally curious. Because if what OP says is true and banks take a hit we can make a lot of money

>>26799945
Eating grass it is, now I get what the JP dudes mean by “Kusa”

>>26800000
Checked. They will end up owing us.

>>26800000
checked

>>26800000
quints

>>26799951
Thanks for the aclaration, but still, is it even possible to pull off?

>>26798223
Feeling very comfy with my BAO.

>>26797983
bump thanks for the rundown

>>26799668
This is about the only play besides the safety of the USD or long Bonds. ie go TMF,T LT, UVXY depending on your risk profile.

All assets will fall

>>26797983
>having weaker hands than fucking plebbit.
everybody whos jumping ship or buys amc deserves to be a slave in (((their))) game

the shills are so obvious yet many anons simply dont get it. this is not about making a quick buck here, its about sending them a message. its about sending them down the toilet.
this time for once we got them by the balls - we got them by the balls big time so dont lose focus. just buy gme, hold it until monday and enjoy seething suits all over the place.

never forget what they have done to you, to your parents or grandparents with their money. dont be dumb and side with them now.
goodspeed anon, we are all in this together.

https://youtu.be/GZTr1-Gp74U?t=644

>Jul 28, 2020

>>26797983
Bumping the effortpost

>>26798178
>>26798123
>>26798054
>>26798001
>>26797983
Stop it, my dick can only get so hard.

>>26800110
>>26800080
>>26800109
?

>>26800000
What brokerage do you have? A put option is a contract that you pay a premium for giving you the right to sell 100 shares of a stock at it's strike price. Basically if the price of the stock goes down, the price of the put goes up and you can sell the put to someone else for a higher premium. Most brokerages support options now adays I think. If you really think this will make bank stocks go down buy a put option with a far out expiry date.

>>26800000
Nice digits

>>26800366
Look at your numbers. Nice quints into dubs newfriend.

>>26799927
So the hedge funds go bankrupt, the prime brokers liq blue chips meaning ofc FIREFIGHTER PENSIONS (this time they’ll be black and trans firefighters), and that triggers and algorithmic selloff of bluechips, and capital flees to real estate (an already insanely inflated bubble where every starter home in USA is priced at a half mil)

Then what?

>>26800470
I use chase Youinvest

>>26799927
i see, a much more reasonable would still have a significant impact then, a full market crash sounds crazy but not impossible

>>26798178

>>26800276
what color are that guy's eyes? gray/white?

imagine if that were true and the system as we know it came tumbling down. Leftists eternally vindicated with the assertion that capitalism is meant to benefit rich guys and little else. Now we know our system having you on the bottom is meant to be, and that the masses moving up is actually a negative for society.That investing should mainly be done by "professionals" because then the house of cards can stay up properly. That you are meant to be a slave class and that we need a slave class.. Faith in the system would be lower than ever.

But how convenient since the 4IR is on the horizon, huh? If things spiral like this it's all rigged and it's all planned in my eyes.

>>26798178
Won't we just get Bailout 2: Electric Boogaloo?

I mean, Congress/Fed has been spitting trillions and trillions into the economy just to make sure peoples stock portfolios didn't take too big of a hit.
They're obviously completely reckless, so why wouldn't they just print more trillions and hand it over to the investment banks to avoid a complete meltdown of the markets?

>>26797983
postan on an epic thread, will read later maybe

>>26800912
these hedge fund traders are mostly jews though, like Citron and the other kike

>>26800366
Local Man Finds Digit Posting Confusing.

>>26801038
I just saw it has Jew in it

So this is how XRP becomes the standard?

>>26800588
I have no idea if they support options. It's worth looking into if you want to short as a retailer.

>>26798178
>And with so many short squeeze situations simultaneously happening, it is likely that every single bank who acts as a prime broker for these different short sellers who are sold short on different stocks has exposure to all of this risk. Risk that they cannot even cover themselves.
kek, you cant make this shit up

>>26799499
>The system was only designed to milk the goy dry, the post.

>>26800000
THIS IS WAR BOYS
WE ARE THE BANKS NOW

>>26801164
Unironically this

Also this cock sucker I’d love to see this mother fucker lose everything
https://youtu.be/yS4yPsmaDDQ

>>26801183
I just checked it’s asking me to apply to have it on my account wtf

>>26800525
>then what

>>26801165
yes... keep chekin those erm digits fren

>>26801319
Goldberg comes to us for a loan now

>>26799437
is there any way to know which banks will have to cover the losses?

>>26799499
>what happens
They go broke, we get rich.

>>26798178
I'm a tourist, and don't fully understand all of this, but you explained this shit well enough for me to get a sense of things. Thanks anon.

screenshot for posterity, but even I know nothing will come of this
the jews will simply slap the goyim in the hand and tell them to knock it off, and the goyim will listen like good little sheep
that's how it always works

>>26801346
They will use this as a way to 'decentralise' currency exchanges, which will actually be a centralisation to larger players on the world stage, breaking down national banks due to the fact they can't be trusted.

>>26800366
Lurk more or go back.

>>26801837
I’m still here

>>26798178
Gamers have truly...... Risen up

>>26801346
Video I just posted makes me think this isn’t going to work , guy from citron is way to comfortable , I’m pretty sure a lot of ppl sold at “meme magic” 420.69 as well I hope they have been listening about not selling Friday or at all for that matter I’d love to see these faggots fail

>>26798178
>Risk that they cannot even cover themselves.
The have a direct line to literally infinite Fed Reserve funny money. 0% chance any of these funds go backrupt under Biden or any other administration.

Tendies will come from tax-dollars.

>>26797983
While this is fun and all, if the end result is the jews losing massive amounts of money, Uncle Sam is just going to rob the plebs blind yet again like in 2008 and the hook nose tribe will probably profit from it all in the end at your expense.

>>26799074
>There isn't any mechanism to just void contracts though.
All parties can come together under a gentleman's agreement and resolve things "amicably".
You seriously think this won't happen if this blows up that big? Brokers up and down the country have already sold their reputations on GME

>>26798178
This. The whole market is going down because of this right now. Hedgies are going to have to liquidate their winners to pay for their shorts blowing up. Thats why everything was down yesterday.
Given the speed at which the market moves i wouldnt be suprised if we enter a correction soon

>>26801164
Crypto is going to have an amazing year, thats for sure.

>>26802205
Then the country can finally burn.

>>26797983
>OTHER KIKES WILL SHORT PRIME BROKERS LIKE IN 2008 AND MAKE TRILLIONS.
>reddit isn't going to push this.

>>26798048
I liked the movie, it was kinda funny

>>26801346

this guy is a cunt and destroyed my PLUG power meme profits

>>26798178
I think you're right about a lot of things, but I'm guessing this is a ploy to liquidate State Street (STT) and some other sureties. It is not just reddit or little guys, this is a massive corporate attack, why do you think it is pumping so hard after hours? It's definitely getting out of control, but read pic related and compare the monthly BLK slide to STT

>>26802560
Yeah I was hoping to see a bunch of rich kikes fail miserably

>>26802409
But what we. I want to see what firms will clean up this mess then I’ll short them.

>>26799813
If they have to do it, then there must be revolution! A biggest redpill. Expel or cull all kikes

>>26798123
>As long as the stock holders continue to hold
could've just written that instead walls of text

as long as stock holders continue to hold price goes up as price goes up a higher percentage of holders sell until no positive price action can be maintained

the only thing relevant about them shorting more than the available shares is that it is a narrative that encourages more holders to hold aka a ponzi scheme

>>26802703
im a kike but im a poor kike. There are just as many wasp elites as kike elties btw

>>26798260
>use poolz finance. that's all I can advice you
this is the same line every shillbot for poolz uses. be aware

>>26801911
I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing this so they can put it on the goy's head that they HAD to do the great reset. Meanwhile he's raping your 6yo son on estrogen.

>>26802560
Kek, I bought them at their historical low and have been holding. I may sell at market opening so I can dump that into the obvious money makers/jew killers at the moment. I already sold off all my T-mobile and Jeffries to poor into AMC at market open.

>>26802806
Naming your kinds would be your salvation when revolution happens.

>>26802795
>encourages more holders to hold aka a ponzi scheme
Holding a stock is a ponzi scheme now?

>>26802887
Meh bleak future i am TERRIFIED for our future

>>26798178
This is no where near 2008. 100% sbort interest is like $10 billiom dollars. Maybe a bad couple of weeks on stock market but laughable you compare that to this.

>>26802684
This. They're organising the great reset and using the goy as a scapegoat.

>>26799358
buy stonks
this is a threat.

>>26801346
>>26802560

>>26802806
so you’re saying kikes are vastly over represented?

SEC insider here. GME will be offering 10million shares in the 30. It will happen next week.

>>26802921
Yeah reason that the rich won’t fail great example right here

>>26799689
We had a guy in a bull costume in the congress on 6th January already. That was a sign.

>>26802971
Always has been.

>>26803135
Do you expect us to fell for your petty jewish trick?

>>26803135
Lol, that would be literal suicide for Gamestop.

>>26803135
Larp

thanks for the info dump

>>26798178
These Banks WILL be bailed out - and BTC price WILL go to $1 Million in the next 3 years

>>26802383
One can only hope so

>>26803458
nah, bankrupt/close them like they did to GM.

>>26798761
i read that in Jin Yang's voice
>JIN YAAAAANG!!!

>>26803237
The shorters would get out and GSP would get a cash injection to the business

>>26800998
Their not the main elite though.

Sticky this thread, jannies.

>>26798855
checked and well said, i like this thread

>>26799499
Let's tank that shit, I'll buy a fraction of a Bitcoin this weekend and when the stock market crashes and burns and boomers look for an alternative for their 401k i'll make millions

>>26800000
>>26800366
Kek smiles upon you new fren.

>>26803237
Not their choice. The SEC sees that the system is about to collapse and is forcing GME to do it. The shares will only be offered to those who have short positions and all trading will be suspended on Monday.

>>26797983
I've got to post in this most Epic of breads.
Thank You OP.
>Power to the players

>>26799792
>>26800000

the GME short squeeze is fucking over a few hedge funds but its not going to cause a bank collapse - thats not happening

the banks have been down because the whole market has been down like the past 5 trading days

I would not be shorting / buying put options on any banks right now. i would actually do the opposite - which is buy call options for stocks that have been hit hard over the past week

everything is on sale right now you should be ADDING TO YOUR POSITIONS AND GOING LONG this is not a market crash. start watching greg and you'll know what to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR3Ca34vu6c

>>26799945
How many bullets do you have?

>>26803650
:)

>>26803712
>>26803571
And no one will ever do business with Gamestop ever again. Not anyone who was involved in the stock anyway. Atleast, that's the way it should be.

>>26800000
Whoa!!
Checkked.

>>26799341
>Is this going to be the final nail in the coffin for the US economy?

This is the start of the 4th industrial revolution. Anyone not in LINK will be eating bugs and living in pods.

>>26797983
I have exact the same idea

Alternative is the elite is prepping for digital dollar and slavery, so let it crash and burn now from the memes

>tfw the chilean carpet-weaving forum and the leddit wannabes are going to crash the economy
RIDE THE KALI YUGA

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW HIGH IT'S GOING TO GO

>>26803780
And what stocks would I buy calls on exactly?

>>26801319
>>26801509

WE ARE THE BANKS NOW!!

>>26803874
thank god we be eating better quality bugs and a mandate gf

>>26803974
higher the bezo's bold shiny head blipping from outta space

Screencapped incase in anons want to share

What if Wall St. and the Feds just convince Gamestop management and the board to liquidate the company? Voluntarily.

What would happen to the shorts and puts at that point?

>>26803063
you gotta give it to him, he's smart enough to be scared of the UMMAN MANDA. we can keep him on as a jannie at the citadel i guess

>>26798178
Comfy

>>26798048
Does anybody else's dad call them "my little Micheal Burry" after making it with link?

>>26803811
Out of their control. The last thing the SEC wants is the collapse of the system.

It's so fucking entertaining

Based insider post. HOLD HOLD HOLD

>>26804130
If the US government consciously fucked over investors of an American company like that, they'd destroy confidence in the American markets for the next 100 years.

>>26804130
They get bailed out, as usual.

Is there anything preventing GameStop from just issuing tens of millions of shares to cover the shorts?
Obviously they wouldn’t want to do it, but I can’t imagine, given the players at work here, that they have much choice.
Big daddy gov would much prefer to crush one business than to let the house of cards collapse.

>>26797983
>figured was going to go bankrupt
Not correct, they noticed that GME had weak (not terrible, just weak) fundamentals and fucked with shorts to get profit from that.
They did this many times and made tons of profits, because when you are muh hedge fund and move tons of money you can manipulate the markets with a single move.
This is not investing, this is financialy bullying, and they did this long enough.
If you are shorting 140% of the total supply you're a piece of shit and deserve to lose everything.

>>26799813
The US dollar will collapse if they do that haha. This is the collapse we have all been accelerating towards. A world so unnatural could never last for long.

>>26804251
Haven't the brokers already done this?
Any share on erth can now be suspended at will by Wall St. insiders, or the government upon request.
In Soviet Wall St., shares sell YOU!

>>26804109
Thanklsl

>>26799909

Holy crap, this isn't the future anyone wanted. If that is true, we are absolutely screwed.

>>26798178
>every single investment bank in the country, is forcibly liquidated
D e l u s i o n a l

Sorry OP but this sounds too good to be true. There must be some way the big palyers wiggle out of this, there must be.

Freemason devils love to lure their victims into partnering with them in their own self-destruction.

GameStop=GameOver. "Power to the Players" indeed. The power to destroy their own economy and debt note savings account(when market crashes guess what happens to M1 money?)

With three trannies in the cabinet and a death lotus as VP at the ready. Pride goeth before the fall.

I dissociate myself from this frenzy and recommend you all do as well.

Salamu alaykum

>>26804251
>they'd destroy confidence in the American markets for the next 100 years
in theory, sure, but that's where the media steps in and runs damage control
all they have to do is lie for a few months and people will completely forget
hell, even if they have to lie for a few years, they already did that with ebil organge man and it only made the public trust them even more

Literally all they have to do is lie.

retard here

are you telling me every bank in the country is going to all their assets liquidated, and all those assets will be transferred to the autists pumping GME stock? effectively making them the new elite?

>>26803780
my spidey sense says you're a rat bastard, get fucked cunt

>>26804341
They shorted it like it had terrible fundamentals. They didn't even close their shorts when Gamestop had more cash than their company was worth. They were 100% aiming for a bankruptcy.

>>26804385
Those are private companies who tries to hide behind a false veil of protecting their clients. It's bad, but not anywhere near as bad as if the US government comes in, bends over all the investors and slams their cock into their asshole with no lube.

>>26804558
No it's pretty much on the same level

>>26803994

You're supposed to have an ongoing stock "watchlist" at all times. when one of them dips and the fundamentals are still good with the company - its a buying opportunity

I cant really tell you what stocks to buy... you're supposed to find your favorite stocks on your own. find one that has dipped over the past 5 days and buy some call options that are just above the current share price and then HOLD through any further dips we might see over the next day or two

>>26804299
This is the most likely scenario. SEC forces GME to issue shares to cover short float. Those who shorted naked pay a huge fine. Kinda funny, but in this situation everybody loses, hedge funds just lose less.

>>26799499
How do we profit? Give us some scenarios

>>26800926
>peoples stock portfolios
he doesn't know..

>>26804505
Basically, yes.

>>>/pol/305459447

>>26804341
Sorry I'm newbie to all this, what does it mean to short over 100% and how is it even possible?

>>26804505
>tfw when Reddit fags will become the new elite

Dear god, what have we done?

>>26800000
>I’m autistic
Is this what retards call themselves nowadays?

>>26804629
They don't have much time left to do this, ideally it should have been done yesterday

>>26804506
>my spidey sense says you're a rat bastard, get fucked cunt

fuck off i just said i'm clearly a bull. the large banks are not going to go under because of the GME short squeeze, and you will lose money trying to short them. you're literally better off just buying GME shares even at this absurd price. or buy call options on AG since it looks like they're gona try to pump that too

>>26800525
then (((they))) all buy monero and lose their keys on a yacht accident just before the feds impound (((their))) yachts for liquidation

>>26804501
then this world deserves to be doomed.

>>26804499
Which fund do you work at??

ALL IN ON GAME STOP!!!!!

>>26804505
>Finally: it is not over. The securities are due on 1/29. There are two full trading days to go. If the present rate continues, Gamestop will be worth $54 billion @ $794/share this time tomorrow and worth $122,360,000,000 @ $1,588/share when the security is due. For context, the world's largest hedge fund is only worth $140 billion and would have to bust to close all their debt - but we haven't factored in interest yet.

>At the standard rate is about $1.2 billion... but remember that because not all the shares are available the interest compounds. For 5 rounds of stock buying (again assuming a willing creditor willing to let them wash back the original stock like this) this comes out to about 25% interest which is something like $30 billion. No hedge fund has $150 billion. Thus, it is impossible for any hedge fund to pay the debt unless they all decide to magically pool their resources and ignore interest. And that the creditor is willing to go along with this. This is all very unlikely.

>So basically by sunday gamestop will be worth as much as the largest company by market cap ($400 billion) and by next Wednesday Gamestop will be worth more than Apple and become the most valuable company in the world. By Feb 5th it'll have surpassed the East India company to become the most valuable company in world history at $9 trillion.

>And this will be with zero actions by gamestop's management, as they have no ability to affect this.

>By Feb 7th, Gamestop will be worth more than the entire US economy. By Feb 11th it will be worth more than the entire world economy.

>And this is still before interest the short sellers must pay back using whatever stock the creditor has.

>>26797983
>>26798001
>>26798054
>>26798123
>>26798178
Very nice fan fiction which is mostly rooted in reality, anon.
However, it is the last post (>>26798178) where the story falls apart.
Let's look back at 2008 and see what happened back then, or rather how little happened back then, when the banks and seemingly all of the financial world was in peril.
How many bets were on "the housing market"?
Against "the housing market"?
How many bets were on bets, were on bets, were on bets, were on bets, were on bets, ....... on bets, on bets, on bets, on the opposing side of a bet on "the housing market"?
You get where I'm going at?
What "exploded" in 2008 was way more leveraged and total in sum then the short exposure currently in GameStop.
The GameStop situation is miniscule in comparison to the quadrillions of leveraged bets in 2008.
Remind us again how man financial institutions collapsed because of 2008? Not that many, right?
So not that many collapsed because of a situation quadrillion of percents more dire than short interest in GameStop?

See. I get it that everyone is looking for the "BIG HABBENING" and is bored to tears because of the pandemic, but if you take a closer look you will realize that this will turn out to be a nothing burger.

A few hedge funds might get liquidated; the big stock market indices might drop 5, 10, 15 percent temporarily over this because people sell stock to scramble for cash, a few trading sessions might be halted, alot of Jewish kvetching might be televised.
But in the end things will go back to "business as usual" sooner than everyone is anticipating now.

However, GME stock might top out during this at several thousand dollars in price.

But please, anon, spare us the doomsday scenarios.

>>26804627
I have mainly put money into defense and oil. This is my first time really stepping out of the realm and into “the real market” for forgive me if I may say something dumb I just want to learn.

>>26797983
Very well written. Yet not completely true. Because I doubt banks will be anything but annoyed. VaR is a statistic that measures and quantifies the lvl of financial risk within a firm, portfolio or position within a time frame. And since Barings, Bear, Stearns & Lehman neither the regulators nor the banks are fucking around. Each position will be forced to close, if it only looks to be going awry. Hedge funds will go bankrupt, yes. And yes, banks will have to swallow that credit/loan. But I don't see any of the banks them being in serious trouble over it. Let alone the fed.

They will just prevent too active buying. They own stock brokers and will limit this. There are circuit breakers installed for this very purpose.

>>26804505
So we’re replacing the kikes on Wall Street with the kikes on plebit

>the ((())) never lose

>>26803135
Quite believable, it would wrap things up nicely for the people who matter.

>>26804558
What's to stop the US Gov from pressuring brokers to gate shares or companies from now on?
The brokers have conceded that they can do so at will and at critical moments.

One final note: if you watch The Big Short, you'll see that Mark Baum makes his decision to sell after the stock value of Morgan Stanley has fallen by 50%, after being urged by one of his employees that they need to sell while there is still a market left standing to sell in.

Morgan Stanley stock did fall far farther than just 50% by the time it was all said and done, and his swaps would have increased in value, but that's the time he made the decision. Morgan Stanley stock at the time of this post is down about 10% from it's high point two weeks ago.

>>26803811
Not like anyone did before

>>26798178
Lmao, imagine this event going down in history:
>A bunch of zoomers and millenials crushing the economy with no survivors buy buying gamer stocks

>>26804519
Exactly, they were artificially provoking bankrupt, and as many observer said even in the media, this is a common practice among WS vultures.
Melvin is "specialized" in shorts.
Shorts were easy to achieve maybe, because the retail investors are ill-informed, divided and frightened creatures, prone to panic selling.
But now there's a new predator out there, MASS AUTISM

>>26804769
>>26804629
>>26804299
If they do it, it would backfire them horribly.

>>26804728
I don't suppose it would be chaos if we could predict every turn right Anon?

Embrace it. Reddit aint all that bad, and there's plenty of room for all of us to WIN once we wipe out the parasite class.

>kek

>>26804828
This.

>>26804728
i'll take leddit over jews desu.

>>26804719
If you use leverage for example.

>>26804832
>I have mainly put money into defense and oil.

if your defense and oil stocks have significatnly dropped over the past 5 days - just buy more shares in those companies. no need to buy "new" stocks - just keep going with what you know and are comfortable with. they are on sale right now and might be for a couple more days

>>26804501
No, this would be the end of the line. Making money is too apolitical for that to work.

Kikes are sweating.

>>26798223
BTC going to 1 million.
Nano might moon, there's already shilling of the GME stock. Might go as hard as GME when eventually money flows back into crypto.
Still think BTC will moon harder.

>>26803646
>unironically thinking people will flock to btc, an even more volatile market, in search of safe harbor after a stock market crash
actual fucking retard holy shit

>>26805073
Minus the jew rhetoric love ya feds

>>26798178
ultra solid post

tl;dr

>>26802083
That will be a lot of explanation to be made about how freshly elected president should suddenly give hundreds of billions dollars of taxpayer's money over gamblers who gambled on some gamestop with infinite loss potential

>>26804627
RTX seems to be dipping now let’s say I buy a call what do I do? How do I make money on that call?

>>26802356
what to buy with 10k? Crypto is as well in a kind of a bubble atm

>>26797983
>This isn't financial advice
posting this on a retardet mongolian knitting forum. you got my attention now

>>26804828
I wonder if you'll still believe this when the stock hits 10k next week.

>>26804974
Roaring Kitty in July already refers to of Burry's board report, so he predicted 2008 and this years/months ahead

https://youtu.be/GZTr1-Gp74U?t=108

>>26805200
Read the fucking post nigger

>>26797983
>Contrary to some media reports, this short interest hasn't been covered
Why though? Daily volume is like 20% of the float, why don't they cover asap?

>>26805001
On who? GameStop? You think the players in this game give a single shit about destroying GameStop when the alternative is complete meltdown?
What could ACTUALLY be done to prevent the SEC forcing GameStop to issue new shares and sell them only to the shorters?

>>26804795
instructions unclear, shorting boa

>>26805253
>20%
200%*

>>26799618
Unironically short everything else

>>26805224
>However, GME stock might top out during this at several thousand dollars in price.

>>26805211
Crypto is soaring because people are losing confidence in the USD. I don't think that's going to change any time soon.

Markets finally crash but it’s due to gamestonk lol

>>26804832
biden turns the us federal car fleet into ev's and you are buying oil ya dumv fuck? oil is done for and the guy telling you to double down on oil is an obvious glowfuck

>>26805098
I own some RTX for example looking at the 5D chart it looks like it’s dipping. Now let’s say I put a call on that how would I make money on that?

>>26805273
SEC is watching, but actually Democrats are historically not very happy with WS bullshits.
I remember that they didn't help Lehman brothers at first, when they did fuck up, they stepped in when the situation was bad and spreaded among the other big players and banks.
In this case there's only Melvin an some other prick involved, so i don't think that they will care.

>>26805361
The US dollar index might have actually found its long term bottom.

Def going to long GME when the dust settles after they make a massive issue at 500 and transition to making EVs

>>26805055
True. Also, those are some DAMN FINE digits son

>>26805472
Oil is gonna go up with keystone out of the way

>>26802971
holding a short squeeze is.
I bet you 80% of gme stock is held by <20% of people who hold gme stock and they will end your delusions quicker than a whore when your time is up

>>26803015
DING DING DING. Start speaking Mandarin you autistic faggots.

GREAT RESET INCOMING

if the price goes above 1k there is over 10 trillion loss in the us economy

>>26804828
7/10 Demoralization Porn.

Not bad Anon, really. Not bad. Still, we know and you can't stop this and all that's coming after it from happening. AMC and BB proved that today as well.

The belly is exposed.
>down she goes

>>26798855
This, buy GME just to teach a lesson on risk, perhaps that way they will finally stop the clown world madness

>>26800912
What are you talking about? It sounds like betting on a companies failure is a douchebag thing to do and the people who did it are losing bigly.

>>26805588
Nice digits anon

>>26805559
More like they will develop Virtual Reality. Matrix style.

>>26805588
checked.
And vallah, just like that, crude oil will never be below .... I guess $35-40 again.
We'll see new crude oil ATHs this decade.

Honk

>>26804803
Yep nothing comfier than holding Monero as the entire financial system begins to collapse. Can't be confiscated and can't be tracked. These finance Jews will be paying a serious premium when they're all trying to buy at once.

Repeat after me:

THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES
THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES
THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES
THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES
THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES

Jesse Livermore Reminiscences Of A Stock Operator https://archive.org/details/JesseLivermoreReminiscencesOfAStockOperator

>>26805208
>RTX seems to be dipping now let’s say I buy a call what do I do? How do I make money on that call?

cmon guys you need to help yourself and google it and learn about this shit or your'e going to lose money. meme magic can only take you so far, eventually you need to become legit and fucking learn the material

>RTX
RTX looks like its going to dip again today. So wait until the end of the day around 3:45pm and buy a call option with a strike price that is just higher than the current share price.

Lets say RTX is trading at 63.99 near the end of the day. buy a call option with a 64$ strike price that expires 3-6 months from now - like in April May or June. Do not go "all-in" on this trade because RTX might dip again tomorrow. the 1 month chart for RTX has been a downtrend so its likely not going to bounceback in a single day. you will likely be holding this call option for a month or 2

so you just buy the call and hold it until RTX share price goes above the strike price (64$) and at that point your option will be "in the money" and you can resell it for a profit

>>26805634
Biden gets to have this hot potato all for himself.

>>26805726
U wish u can have these digits

>>26802684
>>26803015
>>26805629

Trump declared Martial Law from Day 1, since it was US Military that unrigged the Soros voting machines and now the power has been transferred back to US MIL.

EVERYONE Knows Hillary should have won. What is the ONLY way she could have lost??

SEIZE POWER
TAKE CONTROL
YOU ARE WATCHING A MOVIE

>>26805120
>People
Depends who. The more institutional money there is, the more volatile BTC will be as the elites come in and out of the market. When BTC is held by hodl-or-die anarchists and contrarians, it will be a safe haven

>>26805120
Have fun saying poor

>>26804823
I want to believe

>>26805276
>instructions unclear, shorting boa

if you short BOA today make sure you sell quickly for a profit because the market is going back up. the underlying fundamental market conditions have not changed

>>26805634
>there's over 10 trillion loss in the (((kike pockets)))

>>26805864
Ohhhh I get it now thank you

>>26805861
Not if they aren't in control any longer and in order to escape VERY harsh penalties dealt out via UCMJ and Military Courts, they will, as so many others have, just remarkably continue to fall on their own swords, at just the right time.

Enjoy Anons...We live in the Era of Legends.
And (You) are one of them.
WWG1WGA

>>26805916
Learn from the master, faggot

>>26798178
>every single investment bank in the country is forcibly liquidated

Nice meme faggot

>>26805916
>>26806165
Fucking plebs

>>26805588

I was going to call you out on this bs when I realized that Canadian Oil Exports are going to increase thanks to Biden.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-keystone-oil/even-without-keystone-xl-u-s-set-for-record-canadian-oil-imports-idUSKBN29R1RB

>>26806225
>fucking plebs
Not so digital now, are you digit man?

>>26799432
I want to know this too. How can I short on Robinhood?

>>26805695
>7/10 Demoralization Porn.
Anon, what are you anticipating?
What do you think my post was trying to demoralize you of? (or whatever, english isn't my first language)
Are you hoping for "the total collapse of the world financial system"?
Seriously?
The total collapse of something completely artificial, man made and entirely malleable whose rules and regulations can be changed instantly, on a whim to protect the (((System))) from bad things happening to it?
If you are actually anticipating such things, then my guess is that you - once again - will be very very disappointed.

So what is the actual problem here in this situation?
>the unavailability of GME stock to be bought on the market to cover the short and naked short positions?
>the unavailability of funds to cover GME short positions?
These are all just money issues.
And if you haven't noticed by now, money is created ex-nihilo and can be on a whim in whichever great amounts by the controllers.
They have never not printed and might print a little faster and "emergency loan" it out to institutions whose right toe might start to hurt because of this situation.
Sure, a few hedge funds might get liquidated.
That won't evaporate all their other holdings, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Things will only change hands.

So again, what is the problem here that can't be fixed with infusions of money?

I'm eager to know.

>>26806317
they're called puts, anon. but if you have to ask you really shouldn't be messing about

>all these mental gymnastics to make it seem like shorting something for 140% of float is normal but holding a stock is manipulation
you'd have to be genuinely retarded to fall for this

>>26805211
rsr

>>26806142
>Not if they aren't in control any longer and in order to escape VERY harsh penalties dealt out via UCMJ and Military Courts, they will, as so many others have, just remarkably continue to fall on their own swords, at just the right time.
>Enjoy Anons...We live in the Era of Legends.
>And (You) are one of them.
>WWG1WGA
Would you very kindly just fuck off to /pol/ again?
Thanks.

>>26806280
Getting that oil money

Bump. because holy shit.

>>26804499
>Melvin is trying to be qanon now

>>26806378
tl:dr

I anticipate the accelerated downfall of babylon.
>God has a Plan

https://youtu.be/n6on3lSEb7U

>>26799945
You know the memes of the end of the american empire?

>>26806548
No.

>>26803015
You are buying in to the delusion that they are in control of EVERYTHING this is the image they want to project. They are not, they are getting fucked. Of course Elon is in it, of course wealthy people are in it but these Melvin fucks cross a line trying to destroy markets in fraudulent ways.

It's not part of ze great reset plan you morons, its a wild card.

Bump for effortpost and discussion

>>26804499
CHECKED
Even better fanfiction than OP!

>>26798054
Can you actually run me the numbers retard? I'm new to this, is Gamestop now a 1 trillion dollar company

>>26806793
Good. I fucking hate mutts
England arise

>>26797983
>This isn't financial advice and my opinion and analysis is presented for entertainment value
Having to post that here makes you too obvious. Try again schlomo

>>26806548
>30 results found
yeah, another leftist faggot from reddit now shitting up /biz/

>>26806934
For a brief moment in time - in the very near future - it's MKTcap might flash into the hundreds of millions

>>26806934
>I'm new to this, is Gamestop now a 1 trillion dollar company
How does "<last price of trade> times <total numbers of shares>" dollars sound like?

>>26797983
>Buy stonks
>Kill Hedgefunds and banks
Wait a minute, how come we didn't think of this sooner?

What if I don't trust thousands of strangers to not sell what's the right strategy here?

>>26806934
Hundreds of Billions*

sorry

>>26798178
So Great Reset would be possible because of GS? Kek.

ok everyone is happy seeing the price go up now but when people start selling won't it just be the small number of people who sell quickly enough before it crashes that really profit?

>>26807063
Try look for this one as you desperately seethe.

>>26806142
Visit qanon.life for some content that I think you'll enjoy. Patriots ARE in control.

>>26807048
I'm already polishing my buttons and brushing my red coat lad

>>26807218
yes - but this seems to have evolved into more of a financial activism situation than your typical short squeeze. People around the world are investing just to shove a finger in the eye of hedge-fund managers.

>2020
>governments end citizen lives
>2021
>gamers end the government
My sides.

>>26807178
just sell to cover your original investment and HOLD for the meme

>>26807349
Got in on the ground floor of amc and have already earned my original investment from both gme and amc and will sell at market and watch gme for the luls

>>26806825
sir, this is /biz/ nobody cares about your irrelevant grifter politician

>>26799888
Checked

>>26807343
>2020
>govern gives massive handlings to autists
>2021
>autists tank the economy because they want to turn those 1000 bucks into infinite money, American dream style
Poetry

>>26807343
make it so.

Good post OP, but my one thought is that I can’t see this bringing down banks. Gamestop is only at 24 billion market cap. It would have to get like into the high hundreds of billions or trillions to rek the banks, would it not? Lets say the short squeeze happens at 2000, gamestop would be at like 100 billion. Banks could cover that, yeah, they’d be hurting, but i dont think they’d fail. Either gamestop would have to go up exponentially or this same thing would have to happen, on the same magnitude, with dozens of other stocks

What you need to understand my little nigger is that the printer has already been turned on last year, so now they'll just print a few trillions and bail the banks out, in 2008 it was unexpected, in 2021 they spent all of 2020 doing exactly this shit, so they bailed boeing and other companies, now is just the turn of the banks and probably even the hedge funds since rabbi biden is in the white house.
I'm all in link (og >100k link stack) and feeling comfy right now, I only missed the gme moon because not a burger and no access to US stocks, but in 2008 when the market crashed they didn't have crypto, now they'll all put their shekels in bitcorn and effiriums and chainliin and will unironically shoot us to the moon

>>26804741

yes.

>>26800525
Trumpist insurgency encircles coastal cities.

Trying to clarify something about put options; if I buy a put on a security that I DON'T own my only option is to sell the contract, correct? Exercising would mean I sell shares at the strike price which wouldn't make sense since I don't own the underlying asset.

>>26807522
It's not about money. Not entirely.

What happens when the new shorts are long term and just stand to make them all their money back and more when you all sell?

>>26807575
It's a market-wide short squeeze. People are taking profits/using margin from GME and injecting it into other heavily shorted stocks.

It's a downward spiral and GME was just the trigger.

>>26800926
2big2fail2 inflationary drift will cause violence. Look at all the Asian states after they got pump and dumped in the 90s.

>>26807698
For most people it is yes.

>>26799773
>All debts to israel are nullified
>including the six gorillion

>>26807323

kek

Let it all burn under Biden's mandate. Shit would be glorious to watch.

>>26799590
If only. No Chinese company would be so stupid and greedy to make a mistake as big as these hedge funds have

>>26805198
Not that long of an explanation:

White nationalist domestic terrorists attempt to destroy economy after brutal attack on the capital fails

>>26799499
the banks just short themselves, crisis averted. simple.

>>26800366
Welcome to 4chan. Also, checkin them dubs

>>26807719
Why would should we sell if they continue to short? Obviously impossible to get everyone to understand that but you should have paper hands

Here for the history

>>26798178

I pray to God this is true. If so Karma is a bitch.

>>26798123
Question: Does this mean we can just jump on all of Melvin's other shorts and expect those to rise?

Are you sure other big firms are not exploiting this situation as well? Average investors don’t have that kind of money to raise the price of the stock that much, right? Places like Reddit are just gonna take the fall for the big firms if anything happens

>>26803088
Based digits

>>26800276
Fucking hell we all had months to get in early in this shit.
>Tfw gf and no time for 4ch anymore

>>26797983
interesting bread

>>26808308
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/blackrock-gamestop-stock-price-investment-gain-day-traders-reddit-2021-1

>>26799924
Yeah just like they won in 2008 kek

>>26804848
The more potentially dire scenario is that the banks get arrogant and decide they don’t need to eat the loss at all because they won’t allow plebeians to pull off a win of this magnitude

>>26807719
"Shorts" either need
>to borrow the shares of stock they have sold from a third party with the agreement to settle this debt in the future (plus interest)
>to upfront or borrow the money needed for their naked short sale to the party which accepted their (empty promise) of settling what they owe in the future with purchased of shares of stock in the market
to be "short" in the first place.
Either way, they OWE something to someone.
How much they owe is always measured at how high the last price of trade (price of GME stock in this example) and how many share of stock they owe.
Then there is the question, is the shortseller solvent enough to settle this debt at any given time.
And at this point the Wojaks usually turn pink.
If a shortseller shorted (borrowed) GME stock at $30 and the last price of trade of GME stock was $330 this means for example that the shortseller OWES BACK a share of stock which was valued at $330 last time BUT BORROWED IT at $30.
So the hypothetical loss is $300 in this scenario for the shortseller.
And the shortseller is under constant scrutiny and evaluation if he COULD settle this debt at any moment.
If he is deemed not able to then the Wojaks turn even pinker and blood comes from their eyes.

You see, one can not just stay short forever. Every shortseller is under constant scrutiny and evaluated if he's able to settle the debt.

If you have borrowed something at $30 which you have to buy back at $330 to settle your debt how long can you remain solvent?

>>26808398
There's always another kike.

>>26807894
The pound is steadily increasing against the dollar and Id rather bet on the FTSE than the NASDAQ at this point.

>>26805472
Are you serious? You realize gasoline is only a fraction of what oil is used for?

>>26799246
Fucking newfag accusing others of glowing for a meme

>>26807454
good luck, if need money always take profit.

Your needs comes first.

>>26797983
whats stopping people now shorting Melvin and the firms that cover for them? Surely all this will cause a crash in all the associated companies stock... can brokers keep taking shorts and make money off of all these companies crashing or something...? i hope this makes sense

>>26808819
It’s happening. The colonies will soon return to the motherland

>>26806378
QE can't solve all problems, especially since so much has been printed in just the last year. They can't just keep doubling the money supply.

>>26808730
I think he means people who're just getting involved by trying to ride the crash down from a high point like $900-1500