/biz/ - Business & Finance

MN count looking good

>>26589486
got the bitfinex yankee screen?

>>26590747
Here's some vintage FUD of people calling it a vaporware PnD scam 2 years ago

>>26589486
good coin
when DEX?

>>26590999
checked and ropepilled
fudders won't feel so good

>>26591022
Checked. Looks like they're beginning to stress-test BTC/USDT
https://orderbook.stakenet.io/monitor/BTC_USDT

>>26591022
Expect it to be released by the end of Q1

>>26591454
No reason to even FUD the project anymore. The coin dumps itself. See you at sub 20c.

>>26593767
Lmao this, imagine trying to compete with rubic, stinknet doesn’t have a prayer.
Draper should go into selling knives door to door.

>>26593410
it's too early

>>26594268
Isn't rubic that shitty excuse for "dex" that's marketing itself as crosschain but useing BSC with a bunch of shitty wrapped binance tokens? rofl
Tell me about a chink pump n' dump for retards kek

>>26589486
Open dex and Union are at basically the same point. You can use OpenDex to trade through linux the same way you can do in the closed beta of the stakenet dex.

There is nothing specific to the stakenet blockchain. Everything to allow this to work is opensourcce, and already being utilized by other projects.

Still waiting on one of the closed group traders to show me that you can trade through a GUI, rather than terminal. All we have so far is a sony vegas video. Only sub room temperature retards would believe that it's real.

>>26595698
You've been able to trade on L2 through a GUI for half a year through the open beta.
There's literally dedicated BTC/USDT orderbooks that have done 1000+ trades over the past few days and you're still trying to use the Sony Vegas FUD. Kek. Pretty stale.

>>26595572
Oh look an xsnigger lying, how surprising.
Xsn tards want you to believe that they’re the only cross-chain L2 dex around even though they haven’t released anything with cross chain trading, just heavily edited demo videos.
Rubic is beating them to market because Rubic devs are actually competent.
Never believe that Xsn is the only cross-chain L2 dex, it isn’t, and it’s not even close to the best.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Rubic ? Who knows about that piece of scamshit, Pubic is nothing but a dumphole....

>>26589486
Bump, fudders do it for FREE

Lots of Fudders.

Buying more.

>>26597160

>>26596836
Russian P(R)ubic scam lols

>>26596836
>just heavily edited demo videos
Another day, another flavor of the week PnD coin manufactures lies in an ill-fated attempt to bring XSN down to its short-lived playing field.

>>26596836
oh please, diarrhea ID, prove me Rubic is actually a crosschain L2 Dex and i'll market sell my 2MN.
Oh wait, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE kek
The only thing they will is work with chink binance using BSC to add MORE WRAPPED SHIT.
Enjoy your rope after the dump from this useless "dex"

>>26589486
Wrong.

XSN is a fork of DASH.

It's the lowest tech in the entire space. Can't run smart contracts. Will never have Dapps because of this.

Garbage.

>>26597827
This man is right. This is a POSW SCAM. Fork of DASH can't even run on evms.

>>26597827
Remember, with XSN you're buying a layer 1 blockchain that's built on the same tech as DASH which is the same tech as BTC.

You're not buying a protocol that can run smart contract such as holding liquidity pools. You're buying 10 year old tech that is only good for transactions.

There is 0 value for XSN coin at all unless you are running an XSN lightning node and people are connecting to your node to transfer XSN for something that actually has value.

There is no reason for anyone to hold XSN because there are no applications for XSN. It's a literal shitcoin.

Also, the team exit scammed PoSW. Complete and utter trash.

>>26597827
>>26598084
ah yeah
now the party's getting started

>>26598561
you already know baby. IYKYK

>>26598768
If you had a band it would be called Fork of Dash & the Seethers
might be a decent soundcloud project

>>26597827
Your fud is weak. Explain why a dex that runs on masternodes needs dapps? Additionally, uniswap and cryptokitties operate on Dapps. Tell me, how's your transaction speed there? Didn't cryptokitties alone totally break eth? And you're making the straw man argument that this matters how?

>>26598084
Hello same fud poster. You just come up with bullshit buzzwords, don't you? Again, explain how evms https://www.humphreys-assoc.com/evms/basic-concepts-earned-value-management-evm-ta-a-74.html applies at all to this application of technology, i.e. a dex?

Tell me, what's the new bullshit buzzword straw man argument going to be?

>>26597815
Still waiting here...
>pubics can't deal with reality

>>26599301
Do yourself a favor and investigate other projects before you go broke. For our own good, follow this advice before it's too late. I hope you hold other things than this shit. Uniswap and cryptokitties are applications that run on Ethereum. Uniswap is an AMM. A AMM is a smart contract that allows for liquidity pools. It will be soon when Uniswap emerges with a layer 2 solution. Do you understand that every exchange on Ethereum has layer 2 on their roadmap? There is a new exchange every day. It is one of the most competitive spaces in crypto, but what separates them from Stakenet is that they are built on networks that can handle smart contracts. Stakenet lost the race before it started.

>>26597815
>I don’t like this particular layer 2 solution so it doesn’t count!
BSC gives Rubic users the ability to access binance’s wide selection and liquidity without having to use a CEX, KYC etc.
Meanwhile Stakenet dex can’t even properly pull from its supposed partner bitfinex yet.

I'm already up over 500% and there's no fucking product. The team has done no marketing either.
Then you throw in the fact that any thread mentioning XSN gets the same lines thrown at it by one or two IDs that post over 20+ times each iteration and you've got a coin that any autist who's good at even freshmonic pattern recognition couldn't possibly avoid getting a small bag of without roping in a year.

If you can't see through the obviousness that embodies these shilling methods, then I hate to break it to you, but you're ngmi.

FUDders will be home burning their Rubic wallets to stay warm while the Stakelords laugh at them from our yachts.

>>26599776
>Do you understand that every exchange on Ethereum has layer 2 on their roadmap?
Only after they realized they were building on a dead-end for a year+, saw what XSN was doing, and realized they had it right from the start. Correct.
>>26599967
>Meanwhile Stakenet dex can’t even properly pull from its supposed partner bitfinex yet.
Stakenet DEX was aggregating from CEXs half a year ago. Binance included.

>>26599967
Again, tell me how using wrapped shit from chink binance is crosschain. I'll wait.

>>26594268
kek

>>26590999
Checked and keked

xsn is such a peanut project, scam and what not.
team is even scammier, giving out free xsn because its not worth anything in something called "bug hunting" like what the hell is that?.
they just want to make ppl happy and feel good so they can work on a layer2 DEX in peace and never ever ever release it.
- source?
me.

>>26596331
it can easily be faked.

>>26601061
t. George Washington Carver

>>26600851
the wrapped chink shit you can buy today is worth infinitely more than whatever garbage from the lightning network you can't buy for another x amount of months because xsnigger devs are slow as F U C K
just accept the fact that RBC is beating you to the punch and will have been listed on binance for ages while you'll continue to post "2 MORE WEEKS TRUST THE PLAN" for the rest of eternity

>>26600752
look at this scam, disgustingly bad work. lightning swap and aggregators out of the blue doing magic.
SAY NO TO MONEY KIDS, drugs is bad for you

>>26599776
Uniswap and cryptokitties are dapps, which was the basis for your shit argument. An amm is an automated market maker that allows a dapp to operate AS an exchange, eliminating the need for counterparties to trade with. Any standard cex does not have an amm, nor is it a dapp. Your whole argument continually fails to grasp why a masternode dex network doesn't need to operate like a dapp running on ethereum or another smart contract base. It's not the same shit. I can't tell if you're educated enough to be dangerous and are genuinely trying to do good, or if you're intentionally being thick. Liquidity is still being provided externally through users on uniswap, through Amms, because the design necessitates it. Great concept, turns to shit when loaded just like uniswap on eth. A decentralized masternode network with external hubs that stake to create liquidity and operate similar to arbitrage bots handles the same application with far more robustness, allows L2 channels, and allows for REAL assets to be traded, not just wrapped btc for example. As well as allowing tokens native to the assets traded, i.e. chainlink, to be traded as well

>>26600851
You realize there is more 4x more BTC on Loopring, than in the lightning network? The market is smarter than your delusions.

>>26601282
There is no utility for XSN. The only utility would be is if XSN is involved in the transactions. In order for XSN to be relevant, you either have to have Dapps that run on XSN, but there will never be any Dapps because it's a UTXO blockchain, incapable of running smart contracts.

Or you if someone hosts an XSN lightning node they can rent it out and receive XSN for transfers. That's it. Thats' the only application.

You really don't understand what you're talking about.

>>26601190
>the level of coping is reaching maximum levels i can't even feel bad for pubic bagholders

>>26601296
You realize ETH chain very old right? Maybe because it had more time for people to move from BTC to ETH? Lets see in how much time people will move their money to something faster, cheaper and without having to give real assets for some shitty erc20 token. lol

Damn you guys are fucking retards

>>26601632
How many fucking times are you going to move goalposts faggots? Now it's coin not needed? The masternodes operate as the decentralized dex network, and the reduced fees collected are converted into xsn to operate as the liquidity channel that the entire system operates on. Now I know you're intentionally being thick

>>26601173
Why would they have to fake anything? I and many others have purchased XSN through the DEX on multiple occasions and USDT has been in the closed beta for awhile.
>>26601251
That's from June too. The DEX is a lot more sophisticated now.
>>26601296
Cool. XSN can handle LN BTC and wBTC natively and instantly. Even if people want to keep using wBTC, doing so on L1 would be rather painful by comparison.

>>26601792
They won't. You're an idiot. If anything, more and more BTC will go on ETH. There are more arbitrage opportunities as it is now due to being multiple derivatives.

You're just coping. Loopring a layer 2 DEX already has liquidity mining pools on it. Something that this Dash fork can never have. You've been had. They took your money. It's the second scam they've been involved in.

>>26601792
>You realize ETH chain very old right?
>this broken ass Chinglish
oo you rearize eth chain bad mongorian righ?
Ching chang lang ling ting tong, ooo you a rikey da flied lice?

>>26601883
It's not even decentralized. You clearly have no idea how the liquidity hubs work. The hubs are very centralized with each liquidity hub representing its own centralized entity and exchange. Each centralized exchange will have a reputation assigned to it. It's really a joke.

imagine not buying this now, and in like a couple of month DEX is released and you fomo in again but at 0.7 and shit spikes to several $, instead of just holding like a true hodl'er coz you dont know trading like whales do and sell low buy high, but then if you are hodl'er, and you use your brainz you realise you can sell it with a shitload of profit soon, or even more in a year or two from now.

There is not quick way to get rich, but if there is anything that will get a peon rich, its longterm investment.

>>26601179
i had to google that. LMAO
My man.

>>26602262
This thing is going to near 0. If you continue to hold this, you'll be selling for .001 USD. You've been warned so many times.

>>26602046
>giving a shitty excuse of "you know my coins have 10000x more money than your coins"
yeah, i'm coping.
get fucking with your bags

P.s. Zkrollups is not L2, dumbfuck lol

>>26602262
>imagine not buying this now, and in like a couple of month DEX is released and you fomo in again but at 0.7 and shit spikes to several $
I remember reading this in May of last year. “It’s just a few months away!” Wonder if you’ll ever come up with a different hype lie.

>>26602491
You poor, poor lad.
I hope you don't rope, anon. I really do.

>>26602046
You bet. Wrapped btc IS growing on eth. Now go find a group of crypto enthusiasts and ask them if they'd rather have wrapped btc, or actual btc.

Now on to your liquidity mining bullshit, which is yield farming, which again not needed with the xsn structure. You're still trying to compare oranges to apples

Second scam? How many fucking times does this bullshit fud need to be disproven? X9, the current team, was contracted to build the BLOCKCHAIN for posw. Posw failed, x9 took over, THEN allowed a 1:1 exchange of failed posw for xsn and utilized the BLOCKCHAIN they built for posw for the xsn project

>>26602262
Don't worry, the shills are saying "NOT POSSIBLE FOR DEX TO WORK BECAUSE DASH FORK!" so that means the DEX will never release! The fud goal posts will continue to move and move as the price goes to $10.

>>26602491
i just dumped my bag on yo wife.

She luv black nuts.

>>26601939
Proof nigger

>>26602675
Anyone that convinced you that the DEX was going to be out that long ago was fucking with you and you're retarded for believing it.

>>26602711
Don't tell them that! Let the fudders shid and fard over their lies.

>>26602531
Because yankee told you that? You're an idiot if you don't think ZkRollups are layer 2. You know nothing about it.

How fucking stupid are you? All the computation and storage is done offchain. You really are clueless and nobody should be following you if you don't understand what layer 2 is.

sorry suhkinder, diwali is over. go back to your amazon warehouse job and gtfo off biz. nobody wants your scam coin

i pray newfags read this

the rug has already been pulled on this.
devs dumped all over them
lied about masternodes
shady af

stay away from this pajeet

source - everywhere you look

>>26602711
>which again not needed with the xsn structure. You're still trying to compare oranges to apples
“This form of making money isn’t needed!”
If people can make beaucoup bucks elsewhere, they will. You’re right that it’s apples to oranges. The apple allows you to make massive returns on your holdings and the Orange is a dime a dozen wallet with a dex incapable of yield farming or running smart contracts at all.

>>26602994
Just look at the collective education of these shills. They get all their information from a team that says their Dash fork is superior to Eth.

Yankee says that Zk Rollups are not layer 2, so instead of doing research and validating this claim, they just simply accept it as truth.

>>26602230
What exactly is your definition of decentralized? So many seperate liquidity hubs, each operating independently, is a centralized system? Wot? And they utilize a reputation system as a check and balance? Wot? Also the liquidity hubs are separate from the masternodes, you could have one or the other OR both, but they are not explicitly the same entity. After talking about how each seperate liquidity hub and each seperate exchange, you then throw in muh buzzword "centralized exchange?" You do realize there's already a few thousand "centralized" masternodes up and running, right? Like 3200? Sure sounds centralized to me.

This fud is pure comedy gold and the reason I come to biz for a laugh. The fudder is either 1. a StakeLord pushing the price down to get more stakies or MNs or 2. an absolute retard. It's a win win for XSN (ooooo that rhymes).

>>26602994
It's a whole seperate fucking application of defi you're talking about, jackass. This isn't trying to be sushi 2.0 or whatever new food coin you're into. It's a decentralized layer 2 capable dex that can trade in real assets. They're not trying to be ethereum 2.9, or the new nerf blaster, or the new corner mart. You're literally just picking shit out of the blue and saying "but it's not this" as an argument now.

>>26603157
>Yankee says that Zk Rollups are not layer 2, so instead of doing research and validating this claim, they just simply accept it as truth.
This is the funniest part. The average discord tranny for Stakenet believes that lighting and Connext are the only two L2 solutions in existence and that everything else is a lie.
This is even funnier when you realize just a few months ago they considered Connext to be a lie since they thought they were working with raiden. Once their beloved scam artist overlords told them that they were partnering with Connext, they immediately swapped their position and decided that Connext is legit and raiden is a lie and not actually L2.
They may as well be boomers brainwashed by Faux News and Qanon posts. Only when master says it’s L2, is it L2.

>>26603158
Each hub is a centralized exchange based on reputation. How much more simplistic can I make this? I don't have time to argue with a moron.

I've already wasted too much time on this. You're coping because you bought a fork of DASH that can't handle smart contracts and the coin is not needed. You don't even understand the structure of the "DEX" as defined by the team.

>>26602887
your palms are sweaty,
knees weak
bags are heavy.
you're coping on your choices already
gonna regretti
you're nervous, but on the surface you look calm and ready to sell at loss, fucked by that chink faggeti

>>26603468
>Here’s a bank where you get 40%+ APY return on savings
>Here’s a bank where you get no return, all you can do is hold your money and send it to people!

>>26603157
Collective education? I'm barely on the discord. I'm here only because every time I'm in there, I hear about your stupid shit and I said I'd come in here to pitch in. My education comes from knowledge in the field, I can guarantee you I've had my hands deeper in this technology than you have. I don't think I've exchanged one word with it yankee

>>26603484
The funny thing is, they don't have any idea how either work. If they did, they would have exited this scam months ago or never signed up with it to begin with. Imagine buying a fork of Dash in the last 3 years and expecting it to be 'superior to Eth.'

>>26602793
stop hating on us niggas

>>26603699
No, you're a moron. Only an imbecile would invest in a fork of Dash and not have any idea how the tech works and then defend it so vigilantly.

Bitfinex was the reason Stakenet dropped Raiden and went with Connext. Was a brilliant move for Stakenet in the interests of what Bitfinex wanted in August.

>>26603947
Neither connext nor raiden have anything to do with Bitfinex at all. You continue to make yourself look dumber.

>>26603484
Where the fuck do you get this? Both are l2 and I haven't seen it said otherwise, anywhere. The team initially considered raiden as it was the staple L2 for eth but due to its ability to only run on Linux or an emulation of Linux, went with connext due to compatibility simplicity after testing it's functionality. Not once was it a lie, you're just talking out of your ass, again.

>>26604145
Explain why rollups aren’t L2 then.
“It isn’t MY layer 2 solution” is not an argument.

>>26603517
Holy fuck you have just looped around to the same bullshit fud arguments we started with, without disproving anything I've said. Now we're back to two post ago, about how each of the 3200 masternodes are their own entity within the system and obviously that means it's centralized. And again with the smart contract shit, when the functionality is being handled through different mechanisms. Goodbye, felicia.

>>26604362
He just explained they're both L2 solutions, moron. Learn to read first, maybe?

>>26603789
Ah yes fork of dash must be the end all proof of it. Disregard any part of how.the system works and just throw buzzwords and fabricated fud out there and call people dipshits. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit, amirite?

>>26604432
This shows your complete ignorance in how the tech works. First of all, in order to run a centralized hub, you need a minimum of $500k on one side and then lighting collateral on the other side. Each hub is its own centralized entity, as described and intended by the developers of this scam. Each centralized entity is to have its own exchange and a karma rating attached to it. I know you want to sound smart, but you really don't know what you're talking about and sound very desperate to defend your heavy bags.

how is it that everytime....

>>26604597
No, he said he thinks raiden is. He still posted that roll ups arent layer 2 earlier probably because yankee said so.
Learn to read before criticizing others. Did you graduate?

Retards that do not own XSN are second rate people that will always be poor.

>>26604697
What are the mechanisms in which the smart contracts are handled? You really don't know what you're talking about. You're just desperately coping.

>>26604362
Where the fuck did I say rollups weren't layer 2? Please link my post, or maybe double-check IDs before you spout shit again. Would you like to talk about plasma group, or matter labs?

Plasma. kek.

>>26605032
Your act is running thin. You've been exposed as a desperate shill.

>>26590999
Honestly that's how I feel about most de shilled here (rbc, lxc)
What does nr of xsn transactions imply? Is there a fee? I see it has a lot of tx compared to it's mcap

>>26602793
of what?
XSN/BTC is one of the DEX's first pairs and ETH/USDT have been in testing for a few months.
If the DEX can handle ETH and Tether, it can handle wBTC with ease.

>>26604873
Did you really just reply to yourself asking what mechanisms the smart contracts are handled? After all this? Tell me, what mechanisms does binance or coinbase or gemini utilize to handle the smart contracts? Once again, it's not a dapp hosted exchange. How many times do I have to say this?

>>26605792
You made the following idiotic statement:

"And again with the smart contract shit, when the functionality is being handled through different mechanisms."

You don't even remember what you said?

>>26605254
My act? What fucking act? Your reverting back to hurrrr look at the dipshit guys durrr. For the record, xsn literally makes up less than 12% of my bags, so clearly I'm shilling the wrong shit here

>>26605254
>tu quoque
kek

>>26605982
It makes up your entire bag or else you wouldn't be here shilling it. You made a bad investment and now you want to try and justify it. At the end of the day you gave your money to scammers for a fork of Dash. I would be raging too if I had such bad decision making ability.

Now you are here, desperately trying to defend your bags, but you're completely clueless to how the technology works, which of course, is the reason why you gave your bags to scammers for a fork of Dash.

>>26605954
Because you keep trying to ask how smart contract functionality is being handled on a non smart contract blockchain. Your smart contract functionality is necessary for Amms to allow individual users to provide liquidity to dapp based dex's such as uniswap that operate on top of networks such as ethereum. Whereas the masternodes are decentralized physical fucking hardware that render services, licensed by the "stake" to ensure honesty - and the liquidity providers are the hubs that stake liquidity for the network to function, operating on a reputation again to ensure integrity of the system. Have you ever ran a physical masternode?

>>26606574
>licensed by the "stake" to ensure honesty - and the liquidity providers are the hubs that stake liquidity for the network to function, operating on a reputation again to ensure integrity of the system.
Oh good idea, a karma upvote system is definitely a better way to verify secure and fair transactions than impartial smart contracts.

>>26606393
Back to hurr durr dash end all bad. Totally ignoring the way the system works, like saying x86 processors were a scam all along and everyone since 1978 was a retard. By the way, I just checked - it's 5%, I'm just tired of you try hard fudders shitting up every xsn thread with your goalpost moving, buzzword uttering bullshit. The fabricated fud I've seen is pajeet tier

>>26607283
Lmao this nigga tried buy graph and bought graft on accident.
Good choice with Haven. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>26606890
This guy is a joke. He's clearly oblivious to how dumb he sounds. Remember though, one of the devs said they were making a superior product to Eth. Would be surprised if this the dev. Imagine investing in something this shit.

>>26607473

LMFAO, Yep. But he is a stakenet investor, so what do you expect?

>>26606890
Gee, good thing the entire future success would never function on such a system, like coinbase, or gemini, or kraken, or binance.... Too bad it can't operate like uniswap with $48 dollar transaction fees, hours long transaction times, or be hackable like a cex, with you keeping your funds and your own keys or anything. I guess that at uniswaps market cap, that $664,000 dollar masternode stake doesn't provide any incentive at all

>>26607897
>Gee, good thing the entire future success would never function on such a system, like coinbase, or gemini, or kraken, or binance
So you’re bragging about using the same tech to centralize like a cex now?

>>26607473
>>26607511

See, now you're not even trying to do anything but smear campaign which is funny. Yeah, I bought graft. Three years ago. Utilizing RTA in order to bypass transaction time delays to enable direct payment at the merchant with the already existing credit card hardware that merchants know and use was a brilliant concept, but no functioning product was ever delivered. Sad, though loki's blink code via jason shows a lot of promise, it's something this market desperately needs if actual adoption is ever to occur

>>26608059
Well, it's been fun but I'm bored now. Maybe next time you jump in an xsn thread to spout bullshit I'll hop in and do the same. Deal?

>>26608533
I accept your concession.

>>26605352
Stakenet does 240 TPS onchain, Lightning allows for a theoretically infinite number of tx off-chain.

>>26609139
kek

Uh, anyway...

I’m looking forward to everyone evading taxes with the Dex, you just know it’s going to happen

>>26611157
>I’m looking forward to everyone evading taxes with the Dex
in Minecraft

>>26611715
indeed