/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>2657085
Faggot mods deleted the thread but you can't snark the Ark.

Vote biz_classic for some sweet free interest on your Ark holdings.

We need about 10k more to start forging & 100k more to secure our position in the top 51 delegates.

Let's do this, The finish line is in sight!

WE'RE SO FUCKING CLOSE WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL VOTING FOR THE OLD BIZ DELEGATE DON'T THEY SEE THESE FUCKING THREADS

if you are still in the old biz delegate, get out. The owner was a moron who fucked up the payout

New owners are public figures and competent

...or vote for chris, seatrips, wes or whoever is in the top 10 and avoid this nonsense

still at #52, how much ark are we away from 51???

>>2657206
which means less payout for you

>>2657212
we were 51 earlier but got cucked by arknet inceasing their votes

>>2657212
10k

>>2657206
Shill begone. Enjoy your goy payouts.

Why should I switch from the original biz?

>>2657101
>faggot mods deleted the thread
whoaaa he always be doing it for free

>>2657247
Are you retarded? Where have you been?

>>2657247
Because he was a scammer and ran away with a weeks worth of forging. Now we have two guys who work in cyber security & are publicly known running the node. No more fuckery with these guys.

i am getting an error

Invalid Transaction Timestamp

da fuck is this shit

>>2657262
Vacation for the last week, can I get a quick rundown?

>>2657269
nevermind, i restarted the client and it shows

they need to fix their buggy shit, doesnt look good on them

>>2657247
cuz he fucked up and has been knocked out of the top 51. no more ark if u stick with him

>>2657247
No theft, better payouts, actually forges, automated payouts based on individual user preference, highly available

>>2657272
>>2657272
Original delegate ran off with the money, they were replaced. Biz is no longer a delegate, biz_classic is already about to forge.

There another thread about it up right now but I'm on mobile.

>>2657272
Magnet sent last weeks payment to the biggest wallet exclusively, and hasn't posted under his tripcode since. Chang and Moonman assuming direct control.

>>2657272
He scammed everyone out of the forgings, offloading it all to an alt account. Then bullshitted everyone for a day trying to pretend it was an accident.

Now he's no longer in the forging position so isn't even making any Ark at all, if you don't come to biz_classic at least get off biz.

>>2657282
>>2657285
>>2657286
>>2657287
>>2657293
Thanks bros, switching over

Bump

Saw the shit go down live. Just got off work and saw biz hit 51. Was sad cause I didn't get in pre-51

>biz gets cucked by gr33ndragoncock
>second chance to get grandfathered in

Got a small amount in but gonna buy close to 1k more to get us back to 51

7K to go. If you get in after we drop out of 51 you will get grandfathered 90% status.

>>2657085
Gonna drop 0.1BTC on this soon. Uncle Chang and Moon Man will not divide us (from our gains)

Once we get about 100-200k clear of the bottom position we are going to be the most secure node in the entire Ark Ecosystem. There is literally 0 chance of 1 or 2 whales fucking us over because the votes are spread across so many anons.

What we are building here is actually pretty amazing, this is one of the rare times where I actually feel proud of /biz/.

If the Ark devs deliver on their promises, then we are all going to Lamboland together.

biz_classic forever!

>>2657624
This. Our largest whale has 42k.

>used to be up $9k on this
CAN ARK GO BACK TO 1.2 ALREADY, REEEE

Can all the ark threads include a link to instructions on how to set up biz_classic as a delegate? Thank you.

anons know the difference between friends and parasites

is there a calculator on how much I'd roughly earn? I'm in with about 4k Ark

>>2657694
Not yet but this weekend me and Chang will be developing the website and launching a bunch of pool exclusive features no one else has.

voted :)

>>2657709
sounds fantastic! Hope you'll be very succesfull

>>2657709
A built in "how much would i make right now with X ark would be sweet"
Could even include math for how much of the 80-100% payout they would get so they wouldnt feel "scammed" by a non-100% payout later.
A "how frequently should i set my payout to reduce fees" would be sweet too.

And i wonder how much ark one would need to have daily payouts be optimal (that is, the extra X ark forged in your wallet makes more than the 0.1 ark cost of sending every day)

>>2657753
That's already planned. People will be able to authenticate with their ARK address to get a password (pre-generated via a serverside salt/hash) and will be able to login and tweak a few settings as they please.

>>2657783

>>2657783

Nice, I'm a web dev so if you might want any help let me know.

I work with Rails and AngularJS primarily, but good all around.

Here's a project I ran last year to track Pokemon Go player stats.

http://tohjolabs.com/pktrainer

bump

Cmon guys. We're 6k from forging. there's 441 of you still in the old delegate pool..

>>2658082
saved

THE FIRE RISES!

>>2658082
based moonbro, how do we see the cutoff line/how many ark we are away?

WE DID IT!!! With room to spare!!!!

Congrats everyone!!!

>>2658121
>>2658126

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
IM IN CHARGE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2658121
>>2658126

LETS GOOOO!!!!!!

proud of u, biz :')

heed the call anon

tick-tock anon

The list of all voters that helped us get past #51 and will be grandfathered in to a 90% payout MINIMUM is now locked in.

https://classicdelegate.biz/

Check for your address there. That URL will also be where the delegate website be where you can manage your own custom payouts and other useful tools.

got a question.. If you got in pre 51 and buy some more ark after we are in the top 51 do I still get the 90% safe?

>>2658287
So this is what a project not run by clusterfucks feels like.

>>2658288
we forging nao

>>2658288
Yes. There will be a sliding average balance weight later on, but until that is announced (after two months) you are safe to add ARK.

>>2658288
Yup

Sit back and enjoy the 10)% gains. But keep campaigning, because still need to get high 20s to safely secure our position. Coordinated whale efforts can still wreck us right now.

>>2658341
I'm picturing fagnet acting like hillary post-election results

LOSER

>>2658287
>TFW you're on the list

>>2658287
feels comfy man

Take note of these four kikes who jumped ship and voted for sharepool, the delegate started by the jew vivec in order to compete with us and ruin our momentum - they never got more than 4 votes. If they ever decide to come crawling back they will never get paid, and if the balance from these address suspiciously moves to a new wallet, that one gets banned too :^)

>>2658341
BUMB N STUFF

>>2657085
Just bought 900 more ark and moved to wallet
biz_classic or bust

What do you do if you forgot your seed password?!?!

Help plz!!!

>>2658426
I approve

>>2658484

Committed my measly 650 ARK, godspeed

>>2658496
I shouldnt have kek'd
But i did

>>2658484
there's no cure m8, sorry for your loss

>>2658484
What's your ARK address?

Time for ARK memes?

>>2658426
KEK, get fucked, kikes

>>2658516
Godspeed to us all, anon

>>2658426
Will this be transparently documented on the site? I don't like the idea of arbitrary rejection of addresses without a clear rule violation

>>2658661
Yes. I doubt they're going to come back, I just want to ensure they don't. I don't intend to issue arbitrary bans. This exception was made because they attempted to shill on /biz/ with multiple threads telling people to switch over and cause FUD. If a majority has a real problem with it, I'll revoke it.

Congratulations everyone. I am glad, that i am part of this (poorfag here, only 920 ark)
Gonna buy more next week if price will be alright

>>2658661
They prolonged the effort of getting us forging because they wanted their own rules. It's a classic case of not wanting to share and contribute as a community mentality that should not be tolerated and goes against the point of this whole setup to begin with.

>>2658661
Maybe a public "wall of shame" with their addresses and any specific (>80%) ark movement to new addresses documented?

>>2658678
I think it's hilarious

>>2658680
compound interest will lift everyone out of poorfag status

>>2658685
They all had this weird mentality of shilling really had for manual payouts over automatic payouts because "that's how things used to be done." It was all really weird considering they're shilling for crypto

So what's the average wallet holdings in the pool right now? Curious if anyone's as poor as me at 31 ark

>>2658731
2483.5 is the current average, but averages won't matter until 2 months down the line anyway.

>>2658731
you're gonna have to wait a long time before your first payout
as it is rn you'd need roughly 8 days of forging to cover only the tx fee

>>2658758
Whats the calculation or expression you're using?

>>2658287
>locked

Shit that sucks. What's the next best delegate I should vote on with my 5k ark?

>>2658768
daily share=422*<your wallet balance>/<pool voting balance>
422 gets forged daily by the node and this calculation is for the initial 2 months of 100% payouts; later on you'd have to multiply by 0,9 (90% payout)

>>2658783
It's still us.

Plus, everyone still gets 100% for 2 months even if you join now.

>>2658783
Where were you these past few days when everyone was freaking out over the old biz delegate screwing them? You could've got in early.

>>2658783
what's the reason you haven't voted biz_classic since monday?

>>2658787
Actually if he only has 31 ARK he'd still be making 100% (likely forever).

People who have less than the average ARK weight in their wallet will make 100% forever.

>>2658805
>>2658787

To clarify, the 90% grandfathering just means that if at some point you become a decent sized bag holder or even a whale, you still won't get less than 90% when we implement sliding payouts.

>>2658805
oh, that somehow flew past me, even better
I wonder how many of us have two or more wallets that voted for biz_classic pre-51 :^)
>>2658817
roger that

>>2658805

You dah man

>>2658787
Thanks! Where does that magic number of 422 come from?

>>2658794
>>2658798
>>2658799
I've been off biz for a few weeks but bought this shit a while ago when it was like 10cents. What would I get after 2 months though feels bad man

>>2658823
Don't worry, not only will we have sliding scale but we will implement rolling average balance after 2 months, so if you do something stupid like vote pre-51 then dump a whale load in there, you will not get 90% :^)

We are doing everything we can do build the perfect payout system for small-medium wallets while punishing whales.

>>2658519
2.5 ark a month fucking sick

>>2658835
>Where does that magic number of 422 come from?
it's the average reward for total daily blocks forged in the ARK blockchain

>>2658865
per delegate*

>>2658835
>>2658865
by one of the 51 forging nodes, forgot to add

>>2658661
Furthermore, there must be some expenses to being an ARK delegate and since both of you are contributing your time you both will be initially at a loss for the first 2 months since the payouts as you stated are going to be 100%. Will you document the time you spend on this for future refrence? Afterwards, once the payouts are 80% is the remaining 20% first spent on upkeep and the remainder split between you two as profit?

I know you guys are diving in to build the site because that's how developers are, but we should have clear established rules on what to expect from this venture.
Finally, do the two of you intend to run this as codictators or will pre-51 addresses have the opportunity to vote on future actions as well? For instance, i think the banning of addresses or granting you the authority to do should be based on a referendum of the pre-51 not unilateral action.

>>2658838
Vote for someone else man you'd be getting jewed here

How often do you we get payed? Daily, Weekly or every Month?

>>2658881

Literally blocking addresses associated to trolls who didn't want to play with others.

Go make your own delegate if you're into letting trolls cuck you then potentially un-cuck you at their convenience.

>>2658874
We'll have a github with public commit graphs (but private code). For most people the payouts will always be 100%. For the rest, upkeep and split. Once the site is up, more fine details will be available. We both work so we threw this together mid-week. This weekend we'll have time to work on it more seriously.

Voting for pool features is irrelevant because accepting votes by weight will cause whales to drown out smaller voters (good luck getting enough small wallets to vote again - look how many are still in biz).

We'll have public comment periods here on /biz/ threads, and for personally customization features we will have a login system.

>>2658881
(You)

>>2658874
>Afterwards, once the payouts are 80% is the remaining 20% first spent on upkeep and the remainder split between you two as profit?
Payouts won't drop to 80% for everyone. Our sliding scale means people with wallets above the average will have payouts reduced to between 80 - 90% while those below the average get 90% flat.

We will be splitting any profit we get.

>will pre-51 addresses have the opportunity to vote on future actions as well?
We're already doing this on a more informal basis by asking people on our discord what they think about what we're thinking of doing.

>>2657085
Do you have to move your ark into the client wallet to vote on these, or can you keep them on the exchange? Someone give me the rundown on how to vote for biz_classic again once I'm off work and in crypto mode

>>2658838
Pls respond

>>2658938
You literally cannot ever have your ARK on an exchange if you want to earn interest.

>>2658938

- Download the ARK desktop client
(https://github.com/ArkEcosystem/ark-desktop/releases))

- Create new ARK address
(save the generated seed, if you lose it you will be cucked for life probably)

- Send at least 2 ARK from exchange to your address

- Open your account/wallet and click on Votes tab

- Enter "biz_classic"

- Spend 1 ARK to contribute your wallet balance
(by weight, they don't have access to your funds and cannot withdraw from your wallet)

- Profit

The more ARK in your wallet, the more payout you'll receive.

>>2658838
Right now, average vote is ~2300 ARK. Everybody below that will get 100% no matter how late they joined.

Since you're at 5k ARK you'll be somewhere between 80 - 90%. That's still better than the other delegates which are offering 60-70% payouts.

Also that's just using numbers right now. If in 2 months the average vote is greater than 5k ark then you'll continue to receive 100% payout.

>>2658924
You guys are really doing a good job. Very professional

>>2658938
put it in the wallet, its only a .1 transfer fee. And you dont need to have the wallet run yourself just hodl in there

Whats the discord link

>>2658923
>>2658924
So this is more of a roman diarchy. I take it any action you wish to do may be vetoed by the other? That is you will both have consensus with each other before doing anything?

>>2658924
Oops just realized i misspoke here.

Small wallets below the average will get 100% as I mentioned here: >>2658986

>>2658986
Couldn't I just vote twice with two different wallets that have 2250 each and get 100%

>>2659047
pshhhh

>>2659047
who'd do such a thing?
*rubs hands*

>>2659021
Yes, but we will do our best to listen to the voters. When you voted for us, we promised to have a pool that will do its best to support the small to medium holders. If the math doesn't make sense when it comes to supporting that goal, it won't be added. Any future action will not reduce payouts for those with less than the average amount of ARK.

>>2659047
For the next 2 months, yes. After that, RAB will be implemented which will only allow you to earn that amount after 2 full months (or more depending on implementation).

We're making sure whales don't abuse the system.

>>2658287

>on the list

gonna buy more ark I think

>>2659047

You'd need to manage a lot of extra wallets, and have to keep splitting over time based on how many new folk join with various wallet sizes. Eventually the extra 10% you could earn (100% - 90% = 10%) might not be worth all that extra hassle...

>>2659194
?
you can easily manage n wallets from a single client instance
only minor hassle is n number of passphrases

>>2659221
Right, but why the hassle of managing 10+ wallets just for an extra 10%.

Greed taking over anon. If it's that much of an issue for you, do what the fudder did yesterday and make your own large whale pool with your own rules and say fuck you to the community.

>>2659279
I'm just addressing your post m9 while being aware that 10% of ARK@€0,5 is not the same as 10% of ARK@€10
anyway, that's no longer an option ever since we've crossed the forging threshold

so I'm pretty new to ARK, I added "biz_classic" as my delegate, is that all I have to do?

>>2658287
...I fucking did it wrong when we were at 53...god damn it. Trying to vote now and it's not working.

>>2659341
you have to have your ARK in the wallet you voted from and then sit back and enjoy the gains

>>2658426
>>2658678

>If they ever decide to come crawling back they will never get paid, and if the balance from these address suspiciously moves to a new wallet, that one gets banned too :^)

>This exception was made because they attempted to shill on /biz/ with multiple threads telling people to switch over and cause FUD. If a majority has a real problem with it, I'll revoke it.

Thinking back to this, as long as 100% of the profits of these address are redistributed to the arklets then I think the majority will have no problems with it at all. I am not against screwing these guys over for shilling and causing FUD, but I just don't want a profit incentive for you guys to take address profits without an established rule violation (no ex post facto).

Can you pledge on doing that?

>rank 55

Fucking waste of my time.

>>2658287
all my 20 addresses are on that :^)

>>2659386
you must be 18 to post on 4chan

>>2659386
that's thieving niggerfaggot's node
we biz_classic nao

>>2659399
:^)

So after I vote, I should have that Red Bar in my transaction history for -1Ark correct?

discord link plz

>>2659375
Sure.

>>2659423
To clarify, you've still got 2 months to abuse it until RAB kicks in. I'll explain that later but it won't affect anyone who gets in before the 100% promotion wears off.

>>2659411
haha nice response, faggot who got conned.

>>2659386
>>2659465
Are you slow?

biz is rank 55. That's the old delegate that paid out 2800 ARK to a single wallet and screwed us.

We're biz_classic.

>>2659423
They probably didn't think it through too much and transferred the 1 ARK required to vote from the source wallet.

>>2659423

> inb4 mad whales making their own ARK delegate with hookers, and blackjack

> then later deciding to sell all their ARK anyways because fuck delegates and instead blow their money on said hookers and blackjack

>>2659415
WTF I voted for biz_classic 2 days but it got switched back to biz. This is some bullshit.

>>2659437
https://discord.gg/Q4zJuZ

>>2659485
you are still attracted to the magnet

>>2659485
post your voting transactions, blockchain is antifaggotry personified so don't be a faggot

>>2659478
No shit dude I voted for biz_classic 2 days ago and I just noticed it got switched to biz. Not sure how. Look at my transactions. The first vote was for biz. The second one was for biz_classic

hahahahahaha faggot moon man just kicked me out of the discord

what alittle punk bitch

imma have fun derailing every thread you try to promote

theyre mad because i warned them about magnet being a dumb little kid and they shit all over me and whiteknighted for him then it turned out i was right and that triggers them.

>>2659608
>promote
what is it you're expecting biz_classic to promote? tolerance for obnoxious faggotry by some ignoramus?

didnt moon man brag about being doxxed?

i guess he wants to be fucked with lol.

>>2659635
just like ur mum, babby

Voted yesterday sub51 and am not on the list. What went wrong?

>>2659628
>24 posts by this ID

lol nice life you got here, bud.

>>2659651
You made the mistake of following moon man's instructions. I did the same thing and my vote didnt stick. And now they wont give me credit for being in pre 51. Bunch of little scamming faggots just like the first guy.

>>2659653
literally shaking here, perhaps your next shitpost will take an angle targeting my sexual performance, or social status, perhaps even specific character traits

>>2659682
No you seem to already know youre a nolife failure.

How many ARK are you holding? I bet less than 100.

>>2659665
Post your wallet address. Your screenshot doesn't show who you voted for.

>>2659665
How did it not stick? Also, I'm pretty sure I followed the official ARK guide to voting.

It says today I have -1 ARC but have 0 confirmations. If I click on my "Vote" tab, shouldn't biz_classic be there? Wtf am I doing

>>2659691
why don't you tell us since you're demonstrably a psychic little bitch

>>2659700
>>2639456

You better make this right

>>2659691
You got kicked for being as hostile as you're being in the thread. If you want to calm down, act civilized, and and rejoin you're more than welcome to since you were kicked, not banned.

>>2659739
I can send you a noose if you'd like.

>>2659739
You were kicked for being a cunt.

But I want to check your address to see if you really voted for us. If you didn't then that's on you there's nothing to "make right" if you can't follow instructions.

>>2659751
Keep posting so everyone can see what a twat you are.

>>2659754
Hey stupid, look here

>>2639456

>>2659766
Hey stupid, look here.

Someone even told you to verify your vote went through. Your mistake. You fucked up. Deal with it.

>>2659778
I did verify. I closed the app and opened it and biz_classic was checked as my delegate and my transactions showed -1 ARK that I used to vote for biz_classic.

>>2659787
Then post your address so I can check your transactions for myself so I know you're not talking out of your ass.

If you wanna be shady that's on you. I did the right thing.

>>2659439
Great.

>>2658986
So
First 2 months => 100% for everyone
After 2 months
pre-51 => 90%
post-51 => 80%

Once you guys develop the site and people hear about the great returns, you're going to attract more than just /biz/ralies. Perhaps after the 2 month period we should have a third rate of 70% of which then 10% is redistributed to the pre-51 sub-average arklets while you take the 20%.

I say this because overtime, even if earning 100% as the total sum in the pool rises the arklets are going to make less. So I'm thinking redistributing a small portion of profits of the people who arn't from /biz/ could help alleviate that.

For instance, let's say we have Mr. Arklet with 100 ARK.

Right now we have 868,970 in the pool, but let say this rises to 1,500,000. Mr. Arklet may retain 100% of his share's profits, but because the pool has risen so much the amount he gets will nearly halve. Furthermore, thinking more long-term consider if the pool rises to 2-3 million.

>>2659766
In that pic it clearly shows you were trying to vote for biz_classic and unvote for biz at the same time, which doesn't work. This is a fault of the Ark wallet itself. You were supposed to unvote for biz in one action and vote for biz_classic once biz wasn't in that delegate list. You should have even seen a warning message when you tried to do that saying it didn't work. If you want to show me where someone instructed you to do it that way, fine, but I've never seen Moon Man give the incorrect instructions for unvoting then voting.

>>2659795

AUZr1pZWUjpHhJxmjKD6LaZ7Ye5fg1KphB

>>2659808
Yup I followed the instructions. Shit is fucking stupid and poorly designed. Not my fault.

ive got 32 ark, is it even worth it for me to vote at this time?

>>2659800
>you're going to attract more than just /biz/ralies
perhaps those could be directed to join the bizclassic node with similar incentive for pre-forging voters

>>2659796
You fucking idiot.

You JUST sent your votes to classic 20 minutes ago when we got past 51 several hours earlier.

That's why you're not on the list you idiot.

>>2659800
After 2 months it's still between 80 - 100%, and everyone with less than the average wallet size will get 100%. It's a sliding scale.

The ONLY difference between pre and post 51 is that if you increase your wallet size after two months you will make 90%. There's a payout weight and an RAB weight that will be taken into account.

We will look into changing some of the percentages around but I just want to assure that arklets (in the context of average wallet size in our pool) will stay at 100% forever.

>>2659844
lol youre fucking dumb dude. You cant keep up with a conversation at all.

Little third world college kid bitch.

>>2659828
Take it up with ARK. It's not on anyone here that the wallet is designed poorly. And it is your fault for not making sure your wallet was in the voter list for biz_classic after you voted.

Always funny when a malnourished underage gook tries to talk hard on the internet lol

>>2659855
see: >>2659858

You said you verified then posted out of context screenshots of your wallet with no timestamps.

I forced you to give your address so we can verify yourself. You did and ended up playing yourself.

>>2659855
says the faggot who can't follow instructions/read
remember to stay hydrated as excessive salt can be seriously harmful to your health

>>2659869
>with no timestamps.


hahahah how fucking stupid are you, dude? The post and the filename are both time stamped.

>>2659869
You "forced" me? haha ok little 80 pound chink

>>2659864
>What's up with you accusing people of being underage? You might wanna check that little bitch attitude

>>2659893
>21 posts by this ID
You'd kys if you ever did enough self-reflection to realize how fucking retarded you are

>>2659933
u mad cause i bullied your internet friend, bro?

Do I need to pay 1 ark to unvote?
Then another ark to vote again?

Wow these outsiders are salty.
Good job Mr. Chang and Mr. Man, I think you're doing good work here and I support you.

>>2659893

Act like an ass, get treated like an ass. Better practice up on those social skills of yours buddy if this is how to talk and treat people.

I understand it may be hard if you're a cave dweller and have no interaction with outside life, but a little kindness and civility goes a long way in this world.

> inb4 "fuck you you little internet bitch, suck on my balls before I inb4 your mother you punk ass homosapian faggot"

>>2659958
Forget it dude. This shit is a waste of time.

>>2659958
Yes.

Or send all your ark to a new wallet. Then cost is only 1.1 ARK.

>>2659968
Only for low IQ people like you who can't read instructions or even be bothered to verify your results on the blockchain.

>>2659966
lol another nolife lardo chimes in talking abut going outside, he probably hasnt seen the sun in days.

>>2659968

There have been threads about biz delegate fucking over everyone and you should switch to biz_classic for literal days now. It's unfortunate you got in late, or did something wrong, but addresses were posted yesterday while we were still above 51 and you could've checked that. Or asked Moon/Chang to verify for you.

>>2659975
Go eat a dog, gook.

I laugh at the end of this every time. I had to save it, it was so good.

>>2659979

> Literally at work making money working on websites and laughing at you posting from your phone on the toilet while your mom warms up more hotpockets

>>2660006
>i'm indoors in front of a computer

I know. What did I just say?

>>2660010

Forgot to mention that I receive sunlight daily when I commute to/from work and enjoy lunch outside because I can afford more than a microwavable diharriah-in-a-pocket diet.

>>2660010
So you're outside in public furiously typing "gook" on your phone because you'd rather lash out than take any personal responsibility over your finances?

>>2660041
Uv light doesn't penetrate auto glass, fyi. Make sure you roll the window down and hang your arm out like the cool guys to get your vitamin D.

>>2660051
>huur your phoene!!!!!

Hey stupid, does this look like a screencap from a phone?

>>2659507

lol there are some really stupid, immature little kids in this thread. Oh right, school's out for summer.

I tried to make thread but you faggots like echo chamber.

I guess you will have some questions

>>2660078
have you not seen your balance increase on Monday?

>>2660078
wew lad

Where were you?

Magnet fucked up the payout and sent all of it to you which is why people revolted and we made our own delegate.

>>2660100
I went to mil camp for international training. Got access to ark.io and 4chan at TOC. As I understand from archive original delegate fucked up code for payout ?

For People with Voting Problems such as:

-No delegate showing after casting a vote
-Votes Unsticking
-0 Confirmations

I went to Ark Support, and learned the hard way that I my network settings were based on the first ark.io setup guide. So my network settings were correct enough to send my Ark from Bittrex to the Ark.io Desktop Client, but without being on the "6e84d08bd299ed97c212c886c98a57..." network, it will not actually process or send votes, despite Ark.io going through the process and acting completely normal.

What's even better is that it overwrites your old voting transactions every time you attempt to make a new one, so I have no proof that I attempted it yesterday.

I've voted since, but man feels fucking bad.

>>2660078
Why did you fudge out your address when blockchain transactions are publicly searchable?

>>2660078
Magnet fucked up and accidentally gave you over $1,500. That belongs to a bunch of different people, technically should be distributed between biz_classic / biz voters if you're feeling generous but I don't expect you to do the math on what you would owe who at this point. Congratulations on your even fatter wallets.

>>2660065
>Uv light doesn't penetrate auto glass, fyi
Thats only true for the windshield, dummy.

>>2660114
he's proven himself to be an incompetent and malicious fool, shameful display really
now he's done for, signed: justice et al

would you be willing to take your rightful cut and pass the rest to biz_classic address?

>>2660111
I see. What payout he offers?

>>2660136
It probably depends more on the manufacturer of the car. Do you drive a kia?

>>2660146
none, he ain't forging any more

>>2660078

hey.

AXXvR7V3EWwvpfa9Rz24U7Roxw7MpVvhvg I'll take my 16 ark if you feel like giving it up. that's what I earned last time.

>>2660150
>It probably depends more on the manufacturer of the car.
Wrong.

>Do you drive a kia?
No. Unlike you, I drive something respectable that has more than 4 cylinders.

>>2660122
I try to mask as much as possible

Don't believe him you guys.

>>2659893
Your entire issues are down to Ark's wallet, not Biz. I had the same issue where I tried to unvote and revote at the same time, unintuitive I know. Asked the discord, they told me to unvote first, restart, then revote, and I did. Job done, simple as.

You fucked this up, but instead of asking, started calling everyone "little bitch" etc and acting all e-hard and arsey. You might as well have just reeled off all the navy seal mantra.

You then had a massive shit-fit as evidenced here, about getting kicked from a discord due to acting childish. First world problems..

You can act like a 14 year old twonk all you like on 4chan where you won't get kicked for it, but don't expect to not be, when you're elsewhere.

>>2660159
Yeah right, I bet you have a DUI and have to ride the bus because they took your license.
>mfw you dress like an immigrant and the other people on the bus think you're homeless

>>2660133
>>2660156
I won't be giving out individually arks. I could give back to original delegate so he could redo his mistake. My military started from 26th and continues until next month 12th so until when I won't be able to do restitution

>>2660189
I bet you have a dentist appointment after that too, don't you?

>>2660189
The original delegate is gone. Me and Chang ousted him. biz is out of the building. If you're willing to give it up, me and Chang are more than willing to redistribute it among voters in the new pool or figure out some method. Either way, this situation just became really complicated. Naturally it's your call, but if you give it "back" to the original delegate he will literally run away with it immediately because he kept stealing when voters left and he was still forging.

>>2660189
Magnet's pulled a vanishing act so that's not going to work.

>>2660178
>You fucked this up, but instead of asking, started calling everyone "little bitch"
Wrong. I commented on the delegate being rank 55 and in response I got "you have to be 18 to post here" from moon man. I dont let dorks talk down to me, so yeah I put him in his place.

>>2660078
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2660229
fuck

>>2660189
>>2660207
Don't trust these guys. Theyre scammers too.

I don't believe any of this. I'm just a melted face Arkie though.

>>2660186
>im a loser so that means everyone on 4chan is

This is sad.

>>2660219
Rank 55 is Biz. Either way you had an explosive shitfit mate with a lot of really immature language.

Just chill, work it out and all's good. No need to fly off the handle of something so little.

>>2660252

If you're still underage, I recommend you ask your parent(s) to give you a nice hard slap in your face because you're acting like a fucking child and need to understand the world does not revolve around you.

>>2660260
I drive a subaru outback. Only idiots want their car to stand out.

>>2660262
>Rank 55 is Biz
No shit stupid. Try to keep up.

I can tell none of you losers have real jobs. You're all working entry level mcjobs that pay minimum wage.

>>2660270
This attitude is why you were kicked lol.

You're not doing yourself any favours.

People who have "real jobs" don't act like you over something like this.. You got kicked from a discord. Unless you're some mega hipster or something then most normal people would just shrug and move on. Specially when it's to do with fucking 4chan.

>>2660268
Yeah I know. A 4 cylinder. What did I say here?
>>2660159

>>2660267
lol did I make you upset, bud? Do something about it, little bitch.

>>2660206
I understand your frustratio. However I don't give a shit about you.
>>2660207
I will only give back to O.D so he could salvage his reputation as it would be most honorable. Until when I won't spend 2800 arks and will safe keep them.

>>2659848
To illustrate my point i've mapped out 4 scenarios based on how much the pool increases every month. As you've stated, you have the most attractive percentages so this will attract people beyond just /biz/. However, if you attract too many people this will result in less ARK for your initial supporters.

The Daily payout approximation is based on >>2658787
Assuming 100% all 12 months.

>>2660286

Sure, where do you live?

>>2660281
>favours

ur opinion = wgaf

>>2660189
your call entirely

consider us the new government, a successor to biz; whether you trust we will treat the claimants fairly is up to you but sending the entire thing back to that niggerfaggot magnet would be harmful IMO

judging by your balance you could care less so there's little incentive for you to keep it

>>2660286
You said you have issues with your penis size evidenced by your need for a large vehicle. Between the lines, that is.

>>2660299
Where you can't afford to.

>>2660287
Suit yourself, you're only making that idiot richer. Better off sending the ARK to a burn address.

>>2660298
Yes. There is no solution to this. As more ARKs are forged inflation will kick in and everyone will earn less. The price should rise to compensate. No matter how payouts are done the only way people don't earn less is either by price increase or more ARK being produced via Hard Fork. Our method is the only one that will at the very least prioritize the small fish and when we implement RAB it will keep new whales away, slowing down the earnings drop.

>>2660287
You weren't on some military training shit, I watched the wes pool total drop by 100k when you joined original biz after your "negotiations" with magnet, then after the forge was stolen the wes pool gained its 100k back. You're a liar.

>>2660318
Thank you for reasonable answer. Once I'll get back (12th) I will decide.
Can I ask you about this new /biz/ delegate payout? What benefits will I reap if I join in?

>>2660321

I live in Chicago, Illinois.

I will literally buy a plane ticket to visit your little shitshack in Oregon, knock on your door, politely ask your parental guardians if I can enter their house and then joyfully place fist after fist into your face because your parent(s) did not have the balls to do it themselves when you threw your first tantrum when they did not want to buy you an iPhone in Grade School.

>>2660337
Previous thread has most of the non-TL;DR info. The TL;DR is you'll get between 70 to 80% with 100% for the first 60 days as we build out our website (classicdelegate.biz) and make pool-specific tools and algos.

>>2660343
>I live in Chicago, Illinois.
lmao

>I will literally buy a plane ticket
>plane ticket
>not greyhound ticket
>implying


Ok, barack. Have fun surviving in chi town.

>>2660328
>Yes. There is no solution to this.
Not necessarily, if our pool gets too big, couldn't we try to arrange it so we have two delegates? Like if we the pool hits 3 million it could be theoretically split into two delegates with enough coordination.

>>2660363
Yes, I already did the math on this. Other pools will do the same unless one pool gets dis-proportionally large. At that point instead of splitting everyone votes twice, with 50% of the weight going to each pool (so we can effectively run two delegates without "splitting" the pool, we just split everyone's wallets in two).

>>2660363
It took us 3 days and lots of angry former-biz voters clogging up the board with threads asking what happened to their payment for biz_classic to get past 51.

It'll be hard to coordinate imo.

>>2660334
I am not mastermind. You know wes because I supported him before biz . I lost about 240 arks by waiting because I supported /biz/ before 51 delegate position. I liked idea of self governing 4chan group and still do. If you see my balance you will see that wes paid 90 every 3 days and once I joined /biz/ my payout was only after 6 days

>>2660381
That's because you didn't have a centralized site, that could give out email notifications.

>>2660352
Thank you for answer. Today I will delegate my arks to new /biz/ pool

P.S payouts are weekly or monthly?

>>2660358

Yes, I'd rather comfortably fly to and from your shitshack at 2-4x the speed than sit in an old bus.

This is why one aims to actually have an enjoyable income in life, so one doesn't need to live frugally. :)

>>2660399
Daily payouts until we get our new system up and running where users can log onto our site and set their own payout frequency.

We're doing daily instead of weekly because we want to build trust after what happened with Magnet.

>>2660399
payouts are daily for larger voters
as soon as the website is up it'll have an app that will allow every voter to control their payouts

>tfw no shitshack in Oregon

I sent my vote for biz_classic. I hope new team will be fair and honorable

>>2660462
there is no longer an incompetent anonymous ignoramus at the helm and anons administering the node have both competence and public exposure so there's a semblance of accountability where there was none beforehand

>>2660462
I vote for banning this address from receiving a forging payout from biz_classic.

>>2660522
Overall I like ark idea and believe that it should reach 2.5 - 5.0 price mark
>>2660537
You can ban me, but my support boosted biz_classic by 10 positions. Overall I always can make my own delegate. This isn't field engineering

>>2660537
>>2660574
We're not banning anybody.

>>2660574
So you have discord? Can you get in our delegate chat? I'd like to talk because I'm worried about what people think about you joining after keeping 2800 ark that was accidentally sent. I'm on mobile, but I'm half owner moon man in the discord. It's a sticky situation because returning it to magnet is no longer a wise decision.

>>2660462
Holyshit
Godspeed, bro

Suit yourselves. I don't trust him though.

>>2660343
>I live in Chicago, Illinois.
Are you a nigger?

>>2660593
As I said I will be on mil. excer. until 12th. and prob won't have access to internet. After my return I will join discord to discuss matter. For now until 12th I will be supporting biz_classic

>>2660414

what about people who don't have enough to get daily payout without getting burned by the 0.1 fee ?

I have around 400Ark....

>>2660406
Unlike you, smelly nigger, I already have an enjoyable income. Hence why I live in so cal and you live in the midwest.

>>2660652
Or maybe you live there because you're a Mexican.
If you're not, you and your family probably won't survive the reconquista.

>>2660637
Join the discord. We're trying to figure out a way to pay small wallets until our system is up since we can't delay payments after promising daily.

>>2660637
>>2660739
see >>2659492

>>2660739
The discord is all whiny little botcges like you though

>>2657085
Is it worth it to vote still since you guys are in the top 51 already?

>>2660794
We're paying 100% for 2 months which is something no other delegate is doing.

>>2660867
I voted, is there anything else I need to do on my end to make sure I'm in the pool for payouts? Thanks for organizing this, happy to be onboard

>>2660788
fresh IP to mask the your 40 post butthurt kek
thanks for the free bumps fuckboy

>>2660919
Check the blockchain on the explorer site to see if your vote went through. If it did, you'll get paid.

>>2660652
>living in so cal
>making it

choose one

>>2660462
Bump a lump

>>2660794
No

>>2660933
Based.
When would first payout be, fellow stalker?

>>2660462
If he returns the lost ark, should he be rewarded for the gesture of goodwill? Honorary grandfather? Not opposed to incentivizing him to give it up

>>2661082
First payout is around tomorrow at noon. For a few days we will be using toon's Arky script until we finish ours. Note however that we are scrambling to switch over ASAP because his script takes a mandatory 1% fee and sends it to toons' wallet (it's written in bytecode so even if we were jews we'd have to reverse it just to remove it).

I don't mind the fee but we promised 100% plus his script doesn't do everything that we need anyway so we want to migrate from it ASAP. We considered not doing a payout until next week but we promised daily and we don't want /biz/ to lose their shit considering the idiot that magnet was when it came to delayed or fucked up payouts.

>>2661139
>the lost ark
Someone should shoop ARK into this

>>2660630

> Implying Chicago is only African Americans

>>2660652

How did you enjoy that drought of yours a couple months ago? How about all that leaked radiation from Japan crossing the Pacific? Or what about your close proximity to China, Russia, and North Korea?

>>2661214
>Including spics in with whites

>>2661170

>>2661256
top kek

>>2661214
>32% black

Disgusting.

dudes, how to unvote ?

>>2661256
Updated version

>>2661233
>Or what about your close proximity to China, Russia, and North Korea?

Lol wtf is this little kid going on about? I'd he so stupid he doesn't know what the Pacific Ocean Is?

You can tell he's a low income bitch

>>2661233
Bro you are literally a nigger living in Chicago that drives a subaru. You have nothing on me.

ITT: smelly niggers and malnourished chinks

>>2661475

>>2661505
Let out all that anger. It'll be therapeutic.

>>2661475
In case you didn't know, the Pacific Ocean is your closest body of water. The West coast is susceptible to attacks from the West should shit hit the fan. Also, here is an image of the radiation that has already hit your hipster beach you "little bitch" :)

>>2661769
Lol ok nigger. Have fun shooting at other niggers there in chicago.

>>2661917
Such a STUPID, SMELLY NIGGER.

>>2661159
So you got a delegate spot but you weren't prepared with the payout script?

>>2661769
>The West coast is susceptible to attacks from the West should shit hit the fan.
>The West coast is susceptible to attacks from the West

Lol look how flustered the dumb nignog is.

>>2661960
We put this together mid week with no notice. Nobody has a payout script. Everyone uses toons'. We're making our own.

>>2661960
You can tell he really doesn't know what he's doing.

>>2661960
We're using Arky for now which is what every delegate uses.

Our own custom payout code will be rolled out in a few days with our website.

We had no notice magnet was going to fuck up and we were going to replace him.

>>2661981
So are you literally wasting your time refreshing this page to just fud because you're a sad little bitch who didn't get his way? I really don't understand your endgame here.

>>2662065
Lynch yourself nigger. No one will miss you.

>>2661256
lmao

So I'm looking for a new coin to get into, and this coin is looking like a good dip point to get in. What does ARK actually hope to do in the future as a service/currency/whatever it is?

>fight our way to 51st place
>celebrate
>next time I refresh the vote report we've skyrocketed to the 20s.

How many arks do you need to actually get positive gains without the fee fucking you?

>>2662170
enable every startup/company to have their own blockchain on button push, enable these blockchains to interact with eachother, enable these blockchains to interact with other popular blockchains.

Integrate IPFS eventually and other things, check their roadmap

>>2662219

And how do I get into this voting thing? Is it literally pledging ARK means you get passive ARK as a group?

>>2662303
Its similar to a shared masternode except your ark stays in your wallet.

Hold on boys, I am coming over with my 500 Ark.

>>2662437
How long does a Bittrex -> Ark transfer take?

>>2662452
Took me maybe a few minutes. You should get a txid which if you google
"Ark block chain explorer" you can look up the tx

>>2662474
Bittrex says it's "pending" and there is no transaction with my Ark Wallet address.

>>2662517
You have to authenticate it with Bittrex.

>>2662517
Did you go to your email to confirm your withdraw?

>>2662537
Missed that. Thanks. Transfered 501 to my wallet. biz_classic it is!

>>2662597
>110 ark
am i gonna make it guys?

>>2662626
Jump in dude. We're all in this together. Can't wait till I'm dropping these bags on boomers 1-2 years from now.

>>2662642
I'll have 120 ark by that point!

>>2662597
No problem ARK senpai! That's what biz_classic is for. Community work

If ARK is 20 bucks at that point you'll have enough money to build a 6 GPU mining rig!

>>2662738
You probably also saved my ass from getting ripped off. Desktop wallet >>>> exchange.

>>2662795
Def, espessially for long holds. Less trigger fingers to panic sell.