/biz/ - Business & Finance

Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.

>>26512749
Wa'alaikumsalam brother.

I'd personally say your uncle is right. Taxation goes not only to the poor, but also to build and maintain public infrastructure. So in my humble opinion, we should still pay the zakat on top of the taxes.

Stop believing in this stupid desert cult worship

>>26513026

Islam is a tool used by the Jews

Your Uncle is right. Zakat is not tax, and Zakat is not charity.

>>26512749
Us christcucks have to pay 10%.
Sigh. At least it’s easier to calculate.

go back towlhead nigger

>>26513026
*snap*
I'm going to add this to my kufr cringe compilation

>>26512749
You father may be right but your uncle has a strong case too, let your father do as he wishes but slaughter a goat a read Karan 5 times. Inshallah brother.

>>26512831
Their thing doesn’t say that, bro.

>>26513026
>stupid desert cult worship
In case you didn't know, Christianity and Judaism also originated from this "desert" anon

>>26512749
walaikum salaam, I believe your uncle is correct. But you should contact a scholar and not take fatwas for 4chan

>>26513346
Actually, Muslims have to pay 2.5% of total liquid assets to the poor, not income. For a Muslim, that's usually going to work out to more.

>>26514596
Doesn't make it wrong, bro.

>>26512749
I think your uncle is right, you are giving the tax to your government, but zakat explicitly states to give 1/40 to the poor

The whole point of zakat is to remove worldly attachment to money. It is recommended you give 10% but whats obligatory is 2.5%.

Pay the zakat, this world is fleeting anon, the esoteric benefit of negating desire through charity is better than keeping the funds.

>>26512749
your dad is wrong, taxes go to the kafir state, give 2.5% to organizations that feed the poor and needy, your uncle is based and redpilled

>>26516034
True, give it to the needy. Not to the state.

>>26513346
it's 1/40 of the gold (liquid asset) you have remaining at the end of the year

>>26512749
As a Sunni Muslim, your uncle is right, the government does not collect taxes to give to the poor, they waste them through corruption.

Zakat is separate from any government function, and should be given directly to the poor if possible. Charities are OK, but try to uplift your direct community

the tax you are talking about is nowhere found in the quran. It is hadith-based only. Zakat in quranic sense means purity.

>>26514596
While the Quran does not say it in those words, a similar sentiment is echoed many times in Islamic thought.

>>26513026
>>26513088
>>26513353
Cope all you want, you WILL pay jizya

Wa ʿalaykumu s-salam brothers

Can a woman become pregnant from anal?

My fiancee has gotten pregnant despite her being a virgin, we only practice anal, now her dad wants to kill both of us. Please help.

this thread and the responses made me kek so hard
/biz/ lingo alongside with muslim talk is the funniest shit ever, thanks you autist

>>26512749
snackbar to you too mr jihad. how do you cope with the fact that jews created your religion because they needed someone to fight Jesus followers ?

>>26516493
crypto polytheist cope, Jesus PBUH is a prophet in Islam and God brought Islam to correct the corrupt religion of the roman church.
Plus we hate jews more than you

>>26516641
based

>>26516641
>implying Jesus has anything to do with the church

>>26516493
Mohammed warred against the Arabian Jewish tribes, killed them, and took their women and property as bounty. This is factually incorrect

As well, the "The Secrets of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai" suggest that Mohammed could be the messiah promised in Jewish thought. Cope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secrets_of_Rabbi_Simon_ben_Yohai

When the fuck did Allah talk about taxes.

>>26516847
>and took their women and property as bounty
not true at all, the jewish men were taken as prisoners and they were able to work for their freedom. Not their women, children, or elderly.

>>26516953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad%27s_views_on_Jews#Banu_Qurayza

"Sa'd passed an execution sentence against the Qurayza and 600-900 Qurayza men were beheaded (except for the few who chose to convert to Islam), all women and children enslaved, and their properties confiscated."

>>26517076

>>26512749
Obviously your uncle is right.
Your father is trying to jew allah.

>>26516220
If Qur'an and Sunnah doesn't say it then it's not in Islam.

>>26513180
>Zakat is not charity
zakat is charity, but of a very selective kind: it can only be given to other muslims, no infidels, and it must finance jihad against the kuffars.

>>26516816
true, that's why Muslims are true followers of Isa (Jesus - peace be upon him).

>>26517763
you deserve only the shoe of the scholar, oh brother; for you love the dead letter more than the divinely sanctioned traditions of the umma

>>26517076
So one Muslim managed to sow distrust between the Pagan Quraysh and the Jewish Quryaza, compounded with the bad weather conditions, the Pagans decided to retreat, and hence the Muslims came out victorious. So let us summarize what we have so far:

-The Muslims were in a treaty with the Banu Qurayza

-The Pagans launched an offensive against the Muslims

-The Banu Qurayza broke the treaty and joined the pagan offensive

-The Banu Qurayza were simply waiting for the pagans to launch their complete offensive against the Muslims so they too could launch their offensive against the Muslims from the south

-The Banu Qurayza had every intention of killing the prophet Muhammad and the entire Muslim community

So with all of that said, the Banu Quryaza are far from innocent, off course the Christians don't bother to mention any of this, in fact the Christians probably support the pagan offensive as well as the Jewish betrayal! Perhaps the reasons Christians use this argument is because they are so angry that the enemies of God failed in their assault, and the Muslims survived, and this is why the Christians are so angry about this case.

Religions are really just pyramid schemes, huh?

>>26517383
what does this pepe mean aha.

>>26517819
Zakāh expenditures are only for the poor and for the needy and for those employed for it1 and for bringing hearts together [for Islām] and for freeing captives [or slaves] and for those in debt and for the cause of Allah and for the [stranded] traveler - an obligation [imposed] by Allah. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
Qur'an 9:60

>>26517949
I am Muslim myself, I agree 100% with the killing of the Banu Qurayza.

I was citing their demise as rebuttal to the anon who claimed that Islam was a Jewish invention.

The Banu Qurayza deserved what they got, had the Muslims lost the Battle of the Trench the Qurayza would have gladly killed all the Muslims with Quraysh

>>26516641
Moslems have repeatedly sided with Jews (e.g. the fall of Constantinople, Spanish reconquista)

>>26518147
and if that had happened you would today 100% agree with their killing of the Muslims because they got what they deserved.
but desu, all of those early conflicts should just be considered Jewish infighting anyways

>>26517903
>dead letter
Are you using these words to describe the Noble Qur'an and the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)?
may Allah guide us and forgive us.

>>26518663
of course not, I'm talking about the gay forums where your illiterate kind gets spoonfed with the "truth" without ever having to talk to the faithful that actually live around you

>>26518792
Now I really don't know what you're talking about.

>>26513026
>>>r/atheism

>>26512749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

Muslims put this tax on the pope at one point before the crusades.

>>26519111
Yes, in exchange for his protection. That's how shit is supposed to work. Not like Cuckmerica PAYING to protect Israhell.

>>26519179
You dont understand. The pope was told pay muslims the tax or else. Or else what? Or else your fucking head. Its not protection, its a death threat and ransom.

>>26519363
>>26519179
Muslims, who just invaded and took over his sphere, justifying crusades. I mean Jews invented islam in the first place so they can get it too.

>>26518792
Salamu alaykum.

How are there so many muzzies on this board? Get the fuck out faggots

>>26520701
With islam you will not only make it in this life but in heaven as well

>>26518792
>muslim
>faithful
Even good old Momomeme didn't believe his own bullshit (because he never existed)

Smells like Abu lahab in here

>>26521586
Ameen brother

>>26516377
checked, I guess some sand frogs aren't that bad

>>26519111
>>26521699
>>26520701
Cope all you want, you WILL pay jizya

>>26512749
Walaikum Salaam
Your uncle is right and your dad loves his money.
Tax money does not goes to the poor and he knows it.

>>26516377
Checked and based