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>>26433740
Built for BBC

>>26433740
HTML isn’t coding

>>26433740
in truth, no one is telling you to learn to code but mkay

Don't code.

>>26433767
KYS

>>26433841
>no one is telling you to learn to code

Are you joking?

this is the equivalent of the 2011 gamer girl pictures

>>26433740

> HTML
> eat sleep code repeat

>>26433740
lrn2code is a meme if you are looking to be a code monkey. most people that are falling for the meme are going to be code monkeys because they aren't autistic enough to actually lrn2code. don't be a code monkey if you do it.

>>26433767
this

>>26433951
>>26433806
came here to post this

>>26433740
>some dude in a dress adding a shopify button the old fashion way
Does C even exist anymore?

>>26433740
>How can I profit off of this?
work in/ invest in cyber security. more code monkeys = more bad code to exploit

Programming takes YEARS in a specific FIELD to really be useful. There is a reason most programmers are anti social nerds with bad skin and terrible eyesight.

I spent years in one very niche industry reading documentation for hours a day and applying it to a niche project. My job is safe, no roastie or pajeet from a bootcamp is anywhere close to my level of competence in this one specific field. They could catch up if they sacrifice years of their lives, but I very much doubt many will want to if, and even less so will commit to that lifestyle.

Dont program, you could make the same money if not more investing the same amount of energy and time into other fields to be quite honest with you familia

>>26433740
who is this massive white dick maiden?

>>26433740
>Muh oversaturation
what's really oversaturated is the amount of retards getting degrees in business management thinking it'll make them the ceo of goldman sachs

>>26433740
What if shit dripped down her leg into a pile?
>>26433767
KYS

>>26434048
>more code monkeys = more bad code to exploit
also this.

>>26433740

>How can I profit off this

Learn how to manage the masses of plebs who learned how to code.

>>26433740
Good thing I program with sap abap and college kids will never replace me or want to learn how to replace me. Hahahaha *screams internally*

>>26433767
for some reason I laughed hard
kys still though lol

>>26433740
No, most people don't have IQ high enough to be good programmers. Most will be average code monkeys.

> all the largest companies in the world are tech companies
> every non-tech company spending trillions to modernize their infrastructure
> 30-year old servers that will always require maintenance and updates

> "Is this a recipe for oversaturation?"

>normie checks out javascript tutorial
>immediately gets confused and gives up

There’s nothing wrong with starting with HTML you autists. You would quickly move to JavaScript and then Python on that path and you’ll have gained a lot of useful skills to transition to whatever you want from there.

>>26433806
Also came here to post this

>>26434346
CS is the most popular major aside from Business Administration.

>>26433767
Glow more.

>>26433740
>How can I profit off of this?
Learn to code and land a cushy Social Media job like I did. You can make a ton of money selling bots to normies and easy promoting your side hustles, etc.

So many benefits working in this shit field, especially being a decent coder.

>>26434357
>Python
NGMI EVER
t. C++ coder

>>26433740
I only tell people here to code, because I know the type people here are, fucking nerds with no life whatsoever.

government does it so they can tax you, more programmers means more jobs which means more money for the taxman.

schools does it so you can apply their shitty bootcamp and they take money from you.

social medias are usually to promote some shitty product or bootcamp too. giving them the dream that their job will be like a manchild workplace and cool shit (which is not real at all.)

idk others.

>>26434357
Nothing wrong with learning HTML but you don't need to get a fucking meme mug and pose in front of a big screen TV with your copy pasted front end boilerplate code proudly on display

>>26433740
How's my kode brehs?

https://www.memeatlas.com/

>>26433740
Imagine putting her on the table, lifting her skirt, spreading her legs and going to town on her cock

Just tell me what the fuck do I need to learn to set up Urbit. It seems like the future but reads like hieroglyphs.

>>26434605
>https://www.memeatlas.com/

I actually have used this site a couple of times to get memes. I like it.

Once automation boots most unskilled wagies, coding will be the new bottom-rung wagecuck job in the world. Enjoy your $15 an hour. Bachelor's degree and 5 years experience still required.

>>26433740
in spite of market saturation, mediocre software devs at non-FAANG companies still make a ton of money.

>BSCS web dev entry level $70-80k
>2-3 years exp $100k+

if you aren't a complete retard and can get into a FAANG type company it's more like $160k entry and 2-3 years exp for $250k.

compare this to my career, accounting
>masters degree for CPA eligibility
>$55k entry level (central NJ, high COL)
>2-3 years exp $65-75k

>>26433767
Fuck off mutt

>>26433767
Mutt’s Law

>>26434410
>CS is the most popular major aside from Business Administration.
I wonder what % of them are actually autistic enough to not be code monkeys.

>>26434605
add a goddamn search function for the whole site REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>26434684
Burger flippers aren't going anywhere, robotics is a stagnant field.

>>26434530
You can do both you autismo.

>>26434346
I did a GIS certificate in college which involved one python scripting course. Fascinating to watch an entire class of non-programmers try to figure that shit out. About half (coincidentally mostly women) of the class was nearly crying in frustration by the end of every lab session.

Html is purely for web development right? Is there any good reason to learn it? Is a useful skill or anything?

I remember learning a bit of it as a kid and all I remember is <a href=(url)text</a>

>>26433767

>>26434070
>There is a reason most programmers are anti social nerds with bad skin and terrible eyesight.

That stereotype is largely untrue. Companies generally value social skills as much as or even more so than programming ability. If you're difficult to work with, it doesn't matter how good you are.

im also transitioning from web dev, to cybersecurity soon, I am afraid that one day will become a code monkey or get tired of it. but then again I think webdev pays way more.

>>26434783
I did a comp eng degree and took bioinformatics as an elective. Basic python scripting, but the majority of women were losing it. Yelling at the prof to have no coding questions on the final and just wanted terms to memorize.

Bros... can I make it as a self taught dev/software engineer? Working through the Odin project, and I have a mechanical engineering degree (3 years working so far and everyday is suicidal)
I keep reading success stories of like 30 year old history majors getting positions. I would prioritize building a portfolio and actually building shit. At this point I’m considering leaving my job (I have savings) and studying hard as fuck full time. I HATE engineering so much and it would take years (and potentially a PE) for me to make as much as a junior dev at a FAGMAN company. No bully pls advice

>>26434938
>Yelling at the prof to have no coding questions on the final and just wanted terms to memorize
wtf? Are you from eu or na?

>>26433740
>teach how to code
>tell people writing webpages with html by hand is coding

>>26433767
Go back to pol

>>26434048
looked at the job offers for cyber security and holy shit i'm convinced. how do i get my foot in the door other than school/networking? doubt starting pay is as high as what i saw

>>26434304
Fellow abap bro here
Who cares, $750 a day contracts for fucking retard work, comfy as everliving fuck
>t. Ex accountant, something that really was AAAAA

>>26434975

As a dev you're still doing "engineering". if you hate engineering, you'll probably hate software engineering too.

>>26433767
lol

>>26434516

>>26434975
Hey I won a powerlifting meet when I only started lifting at 25. And that was with a really sub standard program and shit getting in the way (finally won a meet at 30 then got injured kek).

I think if you try hard enough at anything you can succeed

Learn to code is a meme
You'll be thrown into a market where you're competing for salaries with pajeets

>>26433806
came here to post this

>>26434774
Burger flipping robots have been around for years now. McJobs' days are numbered.

I can barely stare at a computer all day when I'm just browsing 4chan. I can't imagine doing it as a job.

>>26435053
My issue is the jobs really. School was cool, but mechanical/manufacturing jobs have antiquated culture (work overtime like a good goy, never remote, argue with boomers) and bullshit pay ceilings. The guys who are making above $100k in their twenties are either in oil & gas or have high degrees. I don’t want a Masters.

>>26435130
Would you eat a vending machine burger?

>>26434869
I never said were difficult to work with, but the truly exception 10x programmers have spent a disproportionate time infront of a computer - their not going to want to chit chat about normie shit by the water cooler

>>26433740
>social media telling to learn to code
>the media telling people to learn to code
>schools telling people to learn to code
>government telling people to learn to code
>big business telling people to learn to code
>4chan telling people to learn to code
AND YET NO ONE LEARNS TO CODE

>>26435197
Always do the opposite of what the brainwashed masses say
You should probably be learning carpentry or electronics

>>26435160

the culture of software shops is probably 100 times worse. it's globohomo incarnate. if you've been paying attention, founders of companies and open source projects have been getting ousted left and right for not being woke enough.

>>26435020
NA, Canada.

>>26435130
Have you seen one in real life? They can't do what a McDonald's does, people underestimate all the problems 4 billion years of evolution solved in terms of navigating 3D environments. Google sold off Boston dynamics because it's a money sink with no useful products in sight.

>>26434410
>CS is the most popular major aside from Business Administration.
Not even close to true.
>The greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (381,000), health professions and related programs (238,000), social sciences and history (159,000), psychology (117,000), biological and biomedical sciences (117,000), engineering (116,000), communication, journalism, and related programs (94,000), and visual and performing arts (91,000).

>>26435289
> for not being woke enough
is there a way to stay under the radar and not interact with faggots?

>>26435023
consider a certification. school can provide vouchers for certs. research your certs. corona is fucking things up and pajeets are cheating more than ever at remote exams now, devaluing some certs so be careful.

>>26433806
Same here

>>26433740
There are NO HOT GIRLS in programming. The ones that did well in my software program back when I was in college were SJW hambeasts. So if you see a thot posing with HTML 5 in the background beware she probably sucks complete ass.

Also oddly enough the weirdest people I've met were the C++ instructors. I'm pretty sure one of them was a pedophile who got blasted for trying to buy an underage escort.

>>26434070
holy cope
in 2018 i decided to make smart contracts on eth with no prior programming experience. took me about 2 months before mainnet release. my smart contracts had cumulative hundreds of users and every user is by nature a paid user on the blockchain. i got a couple grants and half a dozen job offers, none of which i pursued because CODING IS THE MOST TEDIOUS SHIT EVER
this is the real thing you fags are trying to hide. the reason most programmers are antisocial nerds is because either you're retarded and genuinely enjoy the process of programming, or you're smart and you program 30 minutes a day while spending the rest of your time shitposting or jerking off to hentai
there is insane amounts of money to be made in programming simply because underneath the purposeful obsfucation, it's extremely simple shit. but the obsfucation is real, the software engineer culture is cancer (both san francisco soibois or muh linux geeks, if for different reasons; and yet they are shockingly similar, one just needs to see the number of trannies contributing to open source projects), there's basically nobody sane you can talk to or relate to in a work environment

>>26435460
>them was a pedophile who got blasted for trying to buy an underage escort.
why are professors always weirdo faggots

>>26435494
>g simply because underneath the purposeful obsfucation, it's extremely simple shit. but the obsfucation is rea
no one is trying to obfuscate anything you nigger. you think people want to stare at a computer screen for a living? fuck no

>>26433841
Maybe if you're deaf or blind. You seem like you're probably both.

>>26435177
Sure. Rather that than Shaneequa having handled it.
>>26435297
It doesn't need to. No production robot ever made moves around the factory floor, and fast food joints are just mini factories.

>>26433806
This

>>26435384

you will just need to hide your powerlevel 40+ hours a week . you can do it obviously but its hard on the soul.

i won't say not to learn to code, there's opportunities for sure. you can surely apply it in combination with your other engineering knowledge in some niche way. but know what you're getting into, its not all rainbows and its not a free ticket to anything.

>>26433767
fpbp

be real anons, how many trannies have you even interacted with at the workplace? is it at bad as people are saying it is?

>>26435460
This. Most girls would take programming because they loved telling everyone they meet they're a "coder" as if it's this prestigious genius-level thing they can brag about. It was a trendy fashion symbol for them. The pretty ones would try and leech/copy off beta orbiters for as long as they could until they were flunked out, at which point they would switch to a shitter major.

>>26433740
>html on tv
>sexy woman
>eat, sleep, code

women cant.

>>26434048
Smart white man play. Shit skin and diversity hire coders make this market bigger

>>26433767
Face is more man than woman, so yes for BBC

>>26435494
>it's extremely simple shit
Yes for JS, Java, PHP, absolutely not for C++, I'm still dealing with it for doing some heavy shit on it.

cloud developers are paid well and it's a growing industry. Do some cloud development certificates like these for Azure (or AWS certificates for Amazon)
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/certifications/exams/az-204
I've had several azure based jobs and they paid around 100k (AUD) or a bit more, but I worked my way up and taught myself and built up a portfolio, but i'm still looking to do a few certificates sometime. I'm not working at the moment, just making some crypto trading software for myself really. I program a lot though, sometimes like 80 hours/week if I'm really into a project, I've worked on several startups where I got scammed pretty much too (be very careful who you work with on projects). I'd say to do the cloud stuff you probably only need a year at maybe 20 hours/week and a basic certificate if you wanted to for entry level

>>26435592
>No production robot ever made moves around the factory floor
Exactly my point. Have you been inside a kitchen at a restaurant? Displacing food sector employees or warehouse pickers will need a robot to move. The world isn't innovating as fast as you think it is, besides computers, physics has seen little advancement in the past 70 years

>>26433740
Hmmm, I do see a few JavaScript functions. This is nothing I'd want to post in order to flaunt. But it is a female social media personality programmer
For any anons lurking, don't feel discouraged if this is what level you're at, keep learning. You have to start somewhere.
Just learn how to do back end code and code with security in mind, like escaping characters, tokens, etc.
Practice with PHP and learn how to do AJAX. Also, it would be good once you get an idea of how to work with databases using MySQL for you to learn Node.js

>>26433806
came to this to post here

>>26435908
Every project has a handful of good devs at most and 10 times as many retards

>>26433767
>same fucking fag spamming every thread as the first comment with the same degenerate reply every time
THIS the jannies don't ban

>>26435926
Factories used to be big buildings where a bunch of women went to weave. When you have a machine that is better/faster/cheaper than a worker, or more likely a bunch of workers, you tweak your process to feed it inputs and collect the outputs where it is. A human might need to move to do the job, but that doesn't mean a robot does.

>>26433806
this is correct but why is it so? i don't consider it coding either

Invest in Steel lol

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/clf

>>26435405
thanks anon, the most common ones i'm seeing are GCIA and GSEC, are those the pajeet infested? i was thinking of going for a BS in CS while trying to get some experience in cyber sec and getting the certs.

>>26434869
he didn't say programmers have aspergers he said they are anti-social (ie if preferred they'd choose not to be social) and this is largely true

look at any team you'll always find the weird ones working as the developers

>>26434070
>I spent years in one very niche industry reading documentation for hours a day and applying it to a niche project. My job is safe, no roastie or pajeet from a bootcamp is anywhere close to my level of competence in this one specific field. They could catch up if they sacrifice years of their lives, but I very much doubt many will want to if, and even less so will commit to that lifestyle.

embedded?

>>26435494
>i learned a language daddy vitalik created for me
why don't you learn what vitalik knows? tarded fucking retard you're literally playing with building blocks and you think you're an attorney damn mongoloid

>>26433806
I came when I heard this was posted

>>26433740
that's a man

>>26436237
>look at any team you'll always find the weird ones working as the developers
i am in uni and the compsci guys are all without an exception socialable (with the right people), have gfs (rarely eyecandy), and have hobbies (weird ones)

the quiet weird guys have mostly undiagnosed mental illnesses and are mostly midwits that drop out

>>26436237
Look at any software dev team on linkedin, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone that looks weird.

>>26433740
>code
>HTML
lmao wut

>>26435185
Exceptional programmers are rare, and it doesn't disprove what I said about about programmers in general today.

>>26436563
yeah the trend has shifted a bit becoming a programmer is "cool" now it's true

>>26436563
Are these sociable "comp sci" guys good or code monkeys? What do you think?

>>26433806
>came here to post this
came here to post this

>>26433740
duh, they want to drive down the cost of hiring software engineers. the problem is they have dumbed down the populace so much expecting so many people to start coding successfully is kinda a fool's errand. i still feel pretty comfy in my software job

>>26437165
go back

>>26434530
Caring about programming languages is the most autistic thing. I just use whatever language I need and I don’t get religious about it

>>26437252
>go back
came here to post this

>>26435460
Wrong

>>26435069
based muscle brain bloomer

kek html

seriously how hard could coding be? im seeing sheboons & foids land jobs at decent companies from just doing a bootcamp.

>>26437162
yeah why not.
all programmers have to work in groups anyways. you can get away with being akward, silent or maladjusted by being exceptional in programming but these kind of people are rare

the majority are not some kind of math genius quants that code their own bot from scratch outperforming god knows who, but this type of guys wont be seen on any campus out of different reasons.

>>26435494
>both san francisco soibois or muh linux geeks
Hmm, this really is an accurate dichotomy of the current state of programmers

>>26437499
most web dev is easy shit that anyone with midwit IQ and determination can learn. of course there's very challenging areas in webdev, like working back end web dev at a company like netflix/google/etc., or dealing with complex, clusterfucked front end shit like messenger at facebook.

>>26437459
is that you or something?

>>26437459

>>26435405
so much this.
Pajeets and Chinks cheat so fucking much it's so blatant, even in person. Literally talking and exchanging material during the exam but the professors are so cucked they just allow it.

"Oh sohrry sohrry i no dont know american rule. sohrry sohrry"

>>26437660
kek. i can't tell if they are a tranny or not

>>26435045
Holy fuck. Im not alone. Im salary, but nice dude.

>>26437660
kek

>>26437634
That's sassymilk, dutch bird from the honeycomb/clcg/apie3 retards

I am learning how to become a furniture repair technician
I plan on picking up wood furniture restoration as a hobby, and once I become comfortable, I can offer customers from my day job private fixes on pieces my job doesn't cover

>>26437890
Bros, will I make it or no?

>>26434070
>you could make the same money if not more investing the same amount of energy and time into other fields
what would this be that doesn't involve
a) getting into debt going to school
b) working a trade (lol)

>>26437459
goblina

>>26433740
coding exists so uninspired politicians have an answer when people complain that they're eliminating their jobs

>>26437532
>all programmers have to work in groups anyways. you can get away with being akward, silent or maladjusted by being exceptional in programming
how intolerable are the people? are they normie npc tier types? lots of faggots?

>>26437988
Probably. Skilled workers are in demand, especially if you are actually honest and reliable.
Maybe try restoring antiques.

>>26435494
>it's extremely simple shit
uhh, nope.. maybe the kiddy shit you do is simple

>>26433740
The serious answer is that it's a meme, the context of which being the media recommending miners learn to code after clean energy makes their jobs obsolete. Then, like pottery, journalists started losing their jobs and 4chan didn't squander the opportunity to throw it back at them.

>>26434975
I did it and I'm chemical engineering. You can do it brother.

>>26433806
posted this here after I came here

>>26434070
Do you work on ERP systems?

>>26433806
>>26439866
Wrong it isn’t programming though

>>26439888
Checked. Why do you ask if anon works on ERP?

>>26433740
Do actual programming that cannot be outsourced to pajeets or females instead of gay node.js shit.

>>26433806
>>26433806
Post here to come this

>>26435494
Your story is a lie prove me wrong.
Smart contracts aren't complicated.

>>26433806
I would like to announce that the only reason I came here was so that I could post this

>>26435919
Scammed by who?

>>26434650
Yeah I am also too dumb for it in it's current form

>>26433806
Posting come

>>26433740
Learn to unplug drains, finish basements, and repair foundations.
Then charge people astronomically high rates to perform these services.
$400 a day easy.

>>26437988
yeah prolly

>>26433806
I came. And posted this: >>26328027

>>26433806
came here to see if someone came here to post this.

>>26439839
Could you elaborate on your path? This is my plan so far:
>set firm goals (remote job that pays at least the same as current position)
>get paid out for my vacation saved (2 weeks) & quit
>do my 1 day a week gig that gives me $1k income per month so my savings don’t get too hurt
>study/work 40+hrs a week, while focusing on skills I see on job listings & building functional projects

>>26433806
i aftered post and came