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Reposting in this thread because nobody is gonna see it at the end of the last one:

>want to increase mining stonk position
>have yet to contribute to Roth IRA for 2020, the deadline is this April
>Money would be locked up for over 30 years

While it seems like a shame to miss out on tax-free gains, I'm afraid that with such a long time horizon I will never see my money given the current monetary/political climate, or if I do it will be taxed to hell and back with new laws to punish the little guy in exchange for more darkie gibs. Does anyone have input on this? I could always just put the same cash in a regular investment account and pay the long term capital gains rate in 2-3 years which is only 15% if the silver miner moon mission does become a reality.

>>26318427
first for robot waifus

>>26318427
First for

Fresh bread from the oven

I just paid $90 for this 1/20oz gold panda.
Did l get ripped off?

When will anyone address the rampant market manipulation on the price of German silver. Take the redpill frens.

Why has gold been dumping for the last 5 months?

>>26318545

>>26318545
nah, yad did good kid

>>26318495
this is where Strawberry flavoured milk comes from

>>26318611

>>26318545
I don't like the look of the raised rim and lack of definition between the fields and raised design, looks too crude to be a Gov't issued bullion coin so I'd check for known fakes with the same date and compare.

>>26318485
Most IRA’s allow you to open up a brokerage account within the IRA so you can control your investments yourself, even if you can’t take profits or move money around. I have done this. You must remain diligent about it.

>YASS MORE GAYHORSE CHEAPIES I LOVE TAKING HORSE COCK IN MY ANUS
>BUTTHORSE WILL 100X ONCE SILVER HITS $50 JUST YOU WAIT

>>26318611
>>26318678
ah, the damage/handling wear may be why it looked weird. The deep gouges seem to confirm it's soft pure gold but it might be good to check for known fakes anyway.

>>26318728
For sure he should verify that it's real. But if it's from 1987 it could just be worn down.

>>26318427
>Rhodium down $1,500 in two days
Did the bubble finally burst?

Russian bro from oldsilver came through frens.

Post stacks

>>26318827

The antidote to anti-Bayhorse shills

>>26317763
>>26301699
>>26301979
>> 26316835

>>26319061
5oz?

>>26318827

The antidote to anti-Bayhorse shills

>>26317763
>>26301699
>>26301979
>>26316835

>>26318545
you got it below spot value so no.
>>26319070
what i lost in the boating accident.

>>26318552
No thats just me stacking reichsmarks. Ive bought out the entire reichsmark sections in 3 separate auctions in the last several months. Someday those will be rare as hell if they manage to avoid being melted down.

Storage is the only issue keeping me from stacking vs going all in index stocks

1. Home safe : easy defined target for buglers, real ones cost 10k, hard to hide, smaller ones melt with fire are portable.
2. Vaults : literal negative interest rates 1% fee, not in your custody. owner could literallt just run off with it.
3. ETC : meme paper derivative,

>>26319070

>>26319126
Yea. Also got a vodka token, some non silver reichsmarks, a wire silver token, and a 1940s german postcard written in sutterlin. Dude is BASED.

>>26319283
I guess BHS is PMG’s chainlink and everyone is just sick of it.

>silver positive
>miners still -2% for the day

it's so tiresome

>>26319070
Here's a small part of my Ancient history stack

>>26319293
Where'd you get that 9-fine kilo? Their bars are classy AF.

>>26318771
That's exactly what I've done already. The majority of my IRA currently is mining stocks since I sold my regular S&P index portfolio last february before the crash to "tether." Those funds were added over a period of several years, and effectively stuck there already. My bigger concern is adding any new funds given the reasons I outlined in my last post.

>>26319070
720 baby

>>26319528
Miners rarely correlate with the metal on the same day.

>>26319623
nice, looks like the bottom drawer of Indiana Jones chest of drawers

>>26319317
I've been stacking Reichsmarks too. I too think they'll have a strong collector value down the road, plus they're pretty cool

>>26319623
bought it off ebay for $900 timing was semi in my favor since the price dropper significantly when the bid ended.

>>26319070
My humble silver stack

>>26318427
Smol

>>26318495
>>26318669
Might want to check if it's pasteurized....

>>26318427
>>26318427
Nice Snek
Here's my pocket piece

>>26319779
I pay $15-20 for a 2 reichsmark. $20-25 for a 5 reichsmark. And up to $35 for a Potsdam church. I also picked up one of these recently.

>>26319779

>>26320063
>>26320111
Very nice and checked

some coffee break news!

StrikePoint Gold Discovers New Veins and Extensions and Returns up to 3,840 g/t Silver at the past Producing High Grade Porter Silver Property
https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/364-tsx-venture/skp/91613-strikepoint-discovers-new-veins-and-extensions-and-returns-up-to-3-840-g-t-silver-at-the-past-producing-high-grade-porter-silver-property.html


Scottie Resources Reports 12.4 g/t Gold and 8.7 g/t Silver Over 2.69 Metres at the Newly Discovered Domino Zone
https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/2659-tsx-venture/scot/91602-scottie-resources-reports-12-4-g-t-gold-and-8-7-g-t-silver-over-2-69-metres-at-the-newly-discovered-domino-zone.html

>>26320111
>>26320063
that is very based, what is it?

>>26319070
>11 krugers
>1 silver panda
>10oz 18k junk
>12oz worth in ETFs
We're gonna make it, bros

>>26319417
How long did it take to get that in? I'm definitely thinking of making a purchase myself (Burger here).

>>26320346
It's a zinc commemorative medal.

>>26320042
thanks anon
your dragon is cool too

>>26319332
Depending on what kind of home you live in and how much metal you're thinking about, just hiding it could be a good option. Most burglaries are opportunistic and quick jobs. They'll find a safe in a closet but they aren't going in the attic and looking for a discrete box hidden under some insulating wool. Fire is a hazard but nothing is perfect.

>>26319070
Only started stacking last year,
am buying 10oz of silver per month.

>>26320295
Thanks Pan Man! CEO Brad from Scottie said we can expect a release every week, this one wasn't bad, hope he's building up to the killer results

did some consolidating today, feels comfy man

>>26320733
>>26319332
They make some decent fire lock boxes even. Attic or basement mixed into a box of other junk or under insulation should work fine.

>>26318495

>>26320890
yeah I have some buckets of rice in my basement that I keep my stack buried in, no robber is going to look in there.

>>26320819
stikepoints not looking bad either, they have been crabbing but havent dipped nearly as hard as a few other companies. Cant wait to see their spring drilling at Porter Idaho.

I just discovered the world of precious metals investing.

For some reason there is something so primal about having a hoard of shekels and silver bars.
I will be investing very soon.

>>26320522
lol

SO apparently COMEX is out of metals and they send you off to the Bank of London, bullying you if you don't comply. Take it as you wish.

>>26321092
remember anon
this could be you

>F is mooning
>GM is mooning
>TSLA idiots are chasing American auto manufacturers now
>CLF supplies atleast 50% of steel to American Automanufacturers
>Biggest steel company in North America now
>Pro-forma two M&A new companies revenue sitting at 17b
>Forward estimate earnings of $3.25 for 2021
>$32.50 is a PE ratio of 10
>CLF currently sitting at forward PE ratio of 5 in $16s
>3 Trillion Tax and Infrastructure plan in the works with Biden Administration
>Can pop to $50 with said plan
>Is a double just based on earnings and PE ratio fundamentals at EoY
>Gary Gensler chair of SEC was head of commodity futures trading under Obama 2009-2014
>CLF went to $120 during this period
>Is a transformed company now also having the only electrical steel plant in the company

This is a no brainer hold

$CLF

>>26321158
things are accelerating ? Good ! Was getting boring, need some actions.

>>26320493
About 3 weeks.

My more eclectic recent acquisitions for your enjoyment frens. The Pancho Villa and Mexican coin dug out of my old teenage collection, and a British WW1 medal I scored at a local auction.

What's your EOY AU/AG price predictions lads?
$5,000/50 - if not this year, EOY 2022 max

I know the old timers will get pissed at this but fuck off ya cunts

>>26321860
>Silver
$25
>Gold
$1,950
We will crab forever until the bullion dealers literally run out of silver

>>26321860
Maybe $35 & $2,200

>>26321935
I'm skeptical enough to think that even after they run out of physical silver, they'll use the paper markets to keep spot prices at 25 same even when silver is selling for $100 an ounce on the street.

This is a weird day, silver miner stocks should be doing better than they are

>>26321935
lately when I get the itch to buy more PM's, I've just been buying NEM. With the 2% percent dividends reinvesting quarterly at least it's slowly building itself if we end up crabbing for a few more years

>>26318552

>>26322101
sounds like a normal day

>>26322118
basado

>>26322118
Kek this is like the fourth pasta I’ve made without intending it to be a pasta

>>26318485
Boomer thinking is to put it in the roth IRA and then wait 30 years to take it out. If you really think hard times are coming, what do you think will happen to that IRA in 30 years, taxes or not?

>>26318427
https://www.apmex.com/product/71910/1-oz-silver-bar-apmex-2013-year-of-the-snake

is this legit? i really want that year of the snake bar like OP’s pic

>>26319126
I needed a good laugh today, fren. Thanks.

>>26322316
>https://www.apmex.com/product/71910/1-oz-silver-bar-apmex-2013-year-of-the-snake

Dont buy overpriced silver.

>>26322316
looks like the real deal to me, watch out though because it tarnishes like no other. I just touched it a little and it immediately got awful marks on it.

>>26322144
checked

>>26322259
It definitely gave me a hearty chuckle.

>Investments

>>26322612
The only way to not get ripped off when buying copper is to purchase it by the literal ton or just search for copper pennies

>>26322502
noted i’ll look around more

>>26322512
this one specifically or silver in general?

>>26322316
>Booba
bls gib milkies

>>26322926
This one in specific. I can fondle a Maple coin without any tarnishing but the snek got tarnished immediately, shouldn't have opened

>>26322316
BOOBA BOOBA

>>26322316
Yes it's legit silver I have a 10 oz bar that's year of the snake. However, that listing is way over-priced.

>>26322612
I love copper, but FUK that.

>>26319488
if it's PMG's chainlink we're 2 years away from an 80x

>>26322938
Don't worry lad.
One day, your stacks will come through and an ounce of shiney silver will give you the bestest, biggest booba.

>>26322612
Let's say I could melt copper and have it with a low premium. Would it actually see well?

Show me the money

>>26323561
>heyayeyee hey here comes the Rooster

>>26323561
All i have are gold bars. Want to get some coins, should I get ducats or coronas?

>>26323470
Just for guys like me if you make cool stuff, I guess.

>>26322143
>>26322101
I think there is still a lot of reticence about the mining industry by outside investors. Every time the PM prices go up, they're immediately slammed back down. So even though all of us know the games being played, most people waiting on the sidelines to buy Newmont, Barrick, Pan American, etc. think it the variations in prices are organic.

>>26322868
been hoarding cu pennies for years :)

>>26323848
It depends on the premium you are paying.
I live in german speaking country where those coins are sub 1% premium.
The Kronen (corona) are made in 900/1000 yellow gold alloy, the Ducats are 986/1000 and are superflat and thin. Personally I think ducats are somewhat of a disapointment, they are very fragile.

>>26319070
Photos from last year before my house was ransacked by interdimensional pot-bellied goblins and stripped of its valuables

>>26323668
you like a good cock?

>>26324167
damned homos

>>26323848
100 Kronen Österreich 30,49g fine gold, 900/1000

>>26318427
Am I the only one who thinks pic related is the best looking half dollar in American history? Franklin and Kennedy halves are just plain ugly compared to it

>>26321017
>yeah I have some buckets of rice in my basement that I keep my stack buried in, no robber is going to look in there.
thanks for the tip

>>26324081
>>26324269
Very cool thanks for sharing. I saw a video of the 4 ducat and did note it looked very thin. Okay ill look at Coronas and maybe that 100 kronen. But premiums may be higher on those here in burgerland so I may have to go AGE. Reason I was interested in ducats is the premium is under 3% some places I was looking

I'm looking to enter the silver market again (The Netherlands) Are new bullion the best buy in since there is no VAT on them? Or should I try "second hand" bullion and coins?

So I've been out of the loop for a while, and now I'm seeing some real negative sentiment around Aurcana and Klondike Silver, which are some of my core positions. I will admit that I took the "iron hands, buy it and HODL" perhaps a bit too literally and I don't take deep looks at my holdings all that often. Should I be concerned? so far AUN and KS have been some of my best performers, and to my knowledge none of their fundamentals have changed (the silver in the ground hasn't gone anywhere). If it's just that their management is doing some trickery with the stocks, that's a bit beyond my level of comprehension. I was never planning on selling quickly to turn a quick buck, but I don't want to get burned if these guys are doing some sneaky manipulation that would screw over shareholders.

>>26324609
Since I am the corona chad here I cannot deny a 100 Kronen Österreich coin needs to be in your portfolio, however it really isnt worth more than 3% premium.
Unless stated otherwise all Kronen and Ducats you buy are modern day restrikes of the austrian state mint. Meaning they have been minted someday in the 80s and not in 1915.
There is also a hungarian Kronen coin, however they have high premiums even in my country.
If possible have a look at 5,81g LMU coins, especially swiss Vreneli, they are in high demand and if you can buy those at 3% or less buy immediately.

>>26324407
Nah draped bust and capped bust halves are nicer looking

Anons I found out that my dream job will be hiring me after a year of not being able to work and eating my fiat savings. So I just purchased enough silver to put me in the 1000 club!!

Love you guys, your friendship and knowledge has kept me sane in these troublesome times! Praise Christ!!

>>26324664
Always take some profits after reaching a price target anon.
>Aurcana
dilution for some reason, maybe to protect from possible deflation or pay off their debt early or something. Don't really know why they thought they needed more financing.
>Klondike Silver
inactivity.

>>26323561
Based and corona pilled. I have a few myself

i've seen some of you talking about Blockstream, in which way do they control Bitcoin, also stop saying that you cant have proper discussions, i had a long one 2 days ago and debunked all the argument of an anon who all of a sudden stopped replying

>>26324644
If you are starting out, go check what you can buy with the lowest premium over spot and buy that.
1oz, 10oz and 1kg coins are to be preferred.
Standard coins like American Eagle, Wiener Phil, Britannia, krugerrand, Maple and so on are always good buy.

>>26324407
This is clearly the best half dollar.

>>26324973
show me

>>26324988
>debunked
Opinion discarded

>>26325121
im willing to negotiate, i hold some silver too

>>26324771
it's the dirndl isn't it?

>>26325091
Holy shit that’s based, where do I buy one?

I'm looking forward to hoarding cheapo soviet silver coins but I'm afraid of chink replicas. Are there any reasonably priced silver detectors?

>>26324664
KS exploded for literally no reason aside from outside hype. Granted, it is a good company with verified quantities of silver ounces in the ground. But, as silver miner anon has shared with us, management has been silent in the last few months and the CEO himself owns little to no shares of the company. There is a disconnect between the current market cap and the speed at which KS increased in value vs. how they treat shareholders.

>>26324531
Given the number of /pmg/ frens that have Benelli M4s, I wouldn't fuck around with some rice.

>>26324763
Capped for later research. Thanks for sharing, beautiful stack

>>26321719
Nice coins anon. Can I see the reverse on pancho?

>>26325311
i ll also add that Klondike Silver has begun driving underground workings towards sections of ore body that have not been explored by modern drilling, they have yet to discuss some of the apparent predatory behavior that their CEO has been up too. Heres to hoping underground drilling gets some results that can actually properly boost the company.

>>26324407
>Am I the only one who thinks pic related is the best looking half dollar in American history? Franklin and Kennedy halves are just plain ugly compared to it
Nope. Best half in design imo, but I have a soft spot for shiny Kennedy halves too.

>>26324781
congratz on your dream job !

>>26324781
Congrats anon, may Jesus' blessings give you more than you ever asked or prayed for.

>>26318427
Need help better allocating: I have stocks, a Roth IRA, savings accounts, metals, and crypto. I'm in my mid 20s so I can afford a more aggressive investment strategy, but only make $15/hour full time (plus over time when available). I'm on the cusp of pirate tier, but don't want to miss out on gains in other assets. What % do you recommend in each class, and would it be better to DCA gold by 1/10, 1/4, or just save up for 1/2 and whole ounce when I have the money?

>>26323561
I kneel.

>>26325971
We discuss mining stocks very frequently in PMG. These offer two-way leverage to precious metals prices. You can invest in a broad index of the largest mining companies using the ETF's "GDX" (gold miners) and "SIL" (silver miners). These are a good starting point for most people.

>>26324122
wait, someone stolen your stack? Last time you posted the right photo it was recently and I thought it is new.

>>26326133
stolen/lost stacks happen quite often I've heard its lost quite a bit in boating accidents.

>>26319623
Where do you get your ancient stuff from?

>>26325245
They're commemorative half dollars. For one in worthwhile condition, expect to spend $300+.

>>26325971
You should go for ratios that suit you. More gold = less risk but you're willing to take extra risks so you should have more money in stocks and crypto.
>1/10, 1/4, or just save up for 1/2 and whole ounce when I have the money?
Avoid gold smaller than 1/4oz -- any lower leeches your money via premium jewery. 1oz and bigger have the best bang for the buck but you'll be needing a lot of buck.

>>26321935
Yep. That sounds about like clownworld. I'll have to go with that one.

does anyone recognise what this stone is?
pls sir to help me, pls.

>>26326361
True, I heard lots of stories like that. It's real shame. But I don't blame people, PMs tend to give good luck when sailing, and one rogue tide is all it takes.

>>26324664
Klondike just announced drilling. Their problem was they couldn't get workers thisnseasonnvecaise of the rush. Just chill. Maybe take profits but just chill.

>>26326133
Yes it was very unfortunate. I've been building up my new stack in Minecraft though, hopefully a safer jurisdiction.

How is everyone positioned for the upcoming crash?

>>26326747
>not setting %'s to 2 decimal points and all rows under the first $ to comma style
Absolute mad man

>>26326747
is cash a safe haven rn?

>>26320063
Are you in USA? Why are you paying so much for Reichsmarks? My collection of 2RMs is under $10/coin. Also, Potsdam 5RMs are usually less than the Big Eagle (Wreath/Swastika) on ebay.

>>26326747
89% in real estate, 10% in PMs and 1% in miners.

I have a property that I'm almost done renovating, fucking project has taken me nearly three years to complete because of various reasons and I can't wait to see it go. Worst financial decision of my life right after buying a Lancer Evolution. Once that's sold, whatever is left after paying off all of its debts will get moved to either PMs or more miners.

I don't count my 401k since it's there's not a lot there yet.

>>26320063
>>26320111
>>26320522
you forgot to mention it's a cast fake also :/

>>26323470
I mean it’d have to be a low premium. I’m talking 2-4%. I have some copper rounds but they were expensive as fuck. If you made some really nice shiny bars + low premium I think it would sell. I don’t know anyone who does it and that’s probably because it’s not cost effective.

traveler here,
my dad told me gold only goes up in value
is that true

>>26326619
It’s glass. Throw it away.

>>26320063
Fuck you for driving up the costs.

>>26327142
technically its fiat currency that goes down against the value of gold, keep in mind that the current price of gold is based off the derivative of itself because of manipulation.
metals are cheap right now

Should I buy one of those bars that is around 1000 bucks of gold?

>>26326927
They're good for picking up cheapies once the margin calls start things off

>>26327130
the best I could do is scrap alternators and melt them down.

>>26326747
65% in metals
35% in stock market (non metals)
not including cash.

Thanks for the input!
>>26326111
I'm checking out GDX, just that the expense ratio is a bit high. But it might be better in the long run until I can properly gauge a mining company for myself
>Bought Barrick's @ $29
>>26326551
>avoid gold smaller than 1/4 oz
I got a 1/4 AGE and a $5 commemorative, I don't think I'd consider a whole oz anytime soon unless I get a better paying job when I graduate college

>>26326747
91% Physical PM
9% Silver miner
Every paycheck I get goes into miner, I don't care about crash, I buy everytime I get paid. I'm a simple man.

I wish they had gold versions of these

>>26326747
25% crypto (mostly Monero), 20% physical PM, 7% junior miners, 8% uranium ETF, 40% cash.

>>26326747
when/what crash?

>>26326747
im 75% physical 25% cash. im not in stocks because i dont want to invest in companies i havnt spent the time to research

>>26325050
New? as in from a legit business?

100% in silver coins, plan on buying gold soon

Had to update my pick since buttcorn lost another 4k since last thread.
It's falling even slightly harder than in the textbook.

>>26326747
Based, finally some anon taking seriously my astropill

>>26327189
along with the silver its encased in?

>>26328356
I will unironically buy 1 whole BTC if it dips to $9000

redpill me on asteroid mining
obviously in the short term it's a FUD. it won't happen in our lifetime or our children's lifetime
but eventually it will happen.
that's my main hesitation towards buying physical (i just buy miners for gains) because id want to buy it for a lifetime and pass on for generations but worried about longterm value if asteroid mining one day becomes feasible

>>26328761
Try to find the bottom of the Despair phase then. Best bang for the buck. Don't want to go pink wojack when it continues to fall after 9,000 after all.

>>26328761
That's an awfully high price to pay for something literally going to zero one day.

>>26328356
>since i posted this imagine 15 min ago BTC lost another $600
It's just too fun

>>26329051

bitcoin is going to $100,000 YOU PATHETIC STACKERS

AND ALL YOUR PENNY MINING STOCKS WILL GO BANKRUPT

>>26328761
BTC got a glancing theoretical blow from Janet Yellen and shaved off 15% of its value. Full guns from the Fed will make it go to zero.
You really want a long term hold it needs to be something where the people who hold it REALLY don't care about "I put in fiat now, for more fiat later". And actually care about the technology and what it achieves. Monero is a good choice because its going back to the roots of crypto all along: selling and buying drugs.
>>26328937
There is something like 770 TRILLION dollars of gold in the ocean. If we aren't "mining" that in some economical way here it definitely won't be easier in space

>>26328982
neet

>>26329307
but eventually people will start to mine that, flood the market with supply, and tank value, no? it's inevitable. hell, it could happen within our lifetime. does that not make you nervous holding physical for your lifetime, knowing it's a very real potential?

>>26328937
Gold is a finite resource. No more gold is being created in our world except for asteroids colliding with us.

Economically, the juice (gold) needs to be worth the squeeze (space travel and mining), either the barriers to space travel have to be lowered mostly through cheap energy in perpetuity and that the cheap energy can't be used on the crust probably due to ironically environmental concerns.

Supply/demand equilibrium will yield price of gold. This will most likely happen when humanity has either moved past it's secular squabbles or have been entirely conquered and everyone is living in arcologies. A high population and limited amount of gold will yield the high relative price where it's worth blasting off into space to retrieve the glorious shiny boomer rocks of old.

>>26329307
>There is something like 770 TRILLION dollars of gold in the ocean
You know what is NOT in the ocean?
Silver

>>26327123
If picrel is yours, how can you tell if Reichsmarks are real or fake? I wanna buy some.

>>26329435
Asteroid mining would mean the end of (most) scarcity. Because if we can mine gold, then we can mine iron, nickel, copper, manganese, lithium, helium, etc.
The only limiter then becomes land and specifically land with access to clean water. You want an asset to pass down for eternity? It is land. And the best asset to accumulate for your land purchases is, has been, and will be gold.

I saw there is another dragon here that actually has a bigger hoard than me, I was impressed. Got some more coming soon at some point, but I will still be a way off his 5kg motherload.

"The commentary section of Kitco is mostly made up of inane comments regarding the evolution of the price of gold. Clearly, Kitco is deathly afraid of posting any realistic appraisal of the movements in gold’s price. Actually, there is no reason at all to read Kitco’s comments, for the gold graphs speak all too clearly of what is going on: the price of gold is under strict control by The Powers That Be, because a surging price of gold would announce the imminent collapse of the value of the US Dollar."

-- Hugo Salinas Price

(Hugo Salinas Price's son, Ricardo Salinas Pliego, recently reported that he has "90% of his net-worth" in precious-metals mining stocks.")

>>26329684
>>26329556
>>26329441
Don’t even respond to the asteroid mining FUDers, they’re here to waste our time and derail the thread. He’s doing what’s called “concern trolling”, where he pretends to be one of us except for a little bitty concern that he’ll spend the entire thread screaming about

>>26329684
redpill me on land, can i just buy an ETF for easy exposure? obviously not ideal but much easier

>>26325596
Ask and ye shall recieve, better late than never. No marks & couldn't find an exact match online, but it weighs in at 31.00g, so between that and the look/feel I'm confident its silver.

WTF happened with Moneta

0.66 oz gold
160 oz silver
Should I buy a kilo of silver or a 1/2 oz gold?

>>26329957
>edpill me on land, can i just buy an ETF for easy exposure? obviously not ideal but much easier
In theory that would be a REIT but your holding would never actually allow you to OWN the land. The best way to "save up" for land is gold. Gold and real estate move relative to each other but its always been around.
A villa in Ancient Rome, an Aztec calpulli, a Spanish hacienda, etc. could all be bought in gold.

>>26325205
man those fakes look like shit!

>>26325287
bump

>>26330135
how do land REITs generate income? farming? if so could be an interesting short term play, commodities in general are due for a big run

>>26330125
Hard choice, how about a fractional like a sovereign and the rest silver?

>>26330509
>how do land REITs generate income?
Almost all of them do it by owning the land and then renting it to tenants. Commerical REITs to businesses. Residential REITs for housing. Etc. They are a very indirect play on real estate in certain sectors that are required to pay out to investors (and have obnoxiously annoying tax treatments).
But to again reiterate. Buy gold. Buy gold. Buy gold. Once you have enough, buy land. Asteroid mining is the FUD of absolute idiots.

>>26330515
Are sovereign premiums worth it? I'm not a numismatist or anything.

>>26329197
>bitcoin is going to $100,000 YOU PATHETIC STACKERS
>AND ALL YOUR PENNY MINING STOCKS WILL GO BANKRUPT

>ID is literally FUD

Fucking pottery

>>26330083
they got bigger, this is the most recent news I ve got on them.
https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/1594-tsx/me/91133-moneta-to-acquire-garrison-project-from-o3-mining-to-create-a-leading-canadian-gold-development-company-with-4-0m-oz-gold-indicated-and-4-4m-oz-gold-inferred.html

>>26320892

>>26318495
based

>>26330856

YOU WILL NEVER OWN A METALS RECYCLING BUSINESS

YOU WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS ME

NEVER

YOU

PATHETIC

STACKERS

>>26330833
I was just using it as an example. Feel free to sub in your favourite or low premium fractional instead.

>>26328937
I have come to think that asteroid mining is FUD to disincentivize people from investing in precious metals.

Why are older ASE so much more expensive online like a 2021 is $30 while a 2019 is $38

>>26329805

Do non-crypto people actually think 50k usd is a lot of money?

>>26331407
Numismatic demand/appreciation

>>26331162
>YOU WILL NEVER OWN A METALS RECYCLING BUSINESS

You mean buying sand-filled aluminum cans and stolen radiator coils from disgusting homeless crackheads?

Thanks but I'll pass on that niggardly bullshit Bob, the metals I recycle are far superior.

>>26331441

Anything that you don't realise into gold or silver or mining stocks is not money.

>>26331328
probably but I still think if asteroid mining is prevalent the gold standard is universally the best standard regardless of what the xenos say about their quantum currency just because its in between states of existents doesn't make it a good currency

>>26318485
>>26319648
This is a true dilemma.

Things to consider:
Future political threat: Tax treatment or retirement rules may change in the future
Complete financial and societal collapse: your brokerage account and retirement is the least of your worries

Bottom line is
1. You will have to survive to see retirement, whatever that looks like
2. A dollar today is always worth more than a dollar tomorrow. Your moonshots and wise investments only mitigate the robbery of your purchase power

I would put that money to use to buy metals or some land. These accounts can be leveraged today to help you buy land as your principal residence. Perhaps the best play is to keep your positions in miners and leverage them to buy land after they moon and assets crash.

>>26331529

Ok? I buy gold and silver all the time. Mostly older coins as I like the designs and the idea that they are more rare. I also bought a bronze statue from the 1800's that I really liked.

>>26331621

That's interesting. Funny how that works the other way round and I have no desire to buy worthless internet tokens with my mining stock gains.

You know I've been seeing you guys hoarding bars and coins I was wondering can sterling silver jewelries can be part of a bullion or is just strictly coins bars and ingots

>>26319332
Bury it. Throw some bolts in the ground too so you can detect it if you go deep or its in a place with no real objects to gain distance off.

>>26331664

Ah yeah I have no interest in gambling either. I only hold major infrastructure projects like orion protocol. Markets going up or down don't really affect me, as I make money on volatility. Iget around 500 dollars a day currently, but that'll soon increase.

>>26331935
There are at least a couple anons that know what to look for and go scrounging for sterling silver to scrap. I think one guy has used a propane furnace to melt it down and cast his own .925 ingots, but its probably wiser to leave them in their current state. That way the sterling marks are intact, and you keep the premium/art value of some of the nicer bowls and platters.

>>26332261

Not sure how it's going to increase when every cryptocurrency crashes to zero and nobody gives a damn about it any more. An inevitability which is coming sooner than you think.

>>26331441
That's about $210,000 at current spot prices, also why would you assume I don't hold crypto...

>>26331935
Sterling is most definitely stacking if you can get it cheap enough.

>>26318427
Has anyone read Deso's new 141 page book on the power of Osmium?

>>26332409

I'm sure double entry bookkeeping will be around for a while longer.

>>26332646

Yes, shame that it carry on as it was and have nothing to do with the application of what you're investing in.

>>26320034
>>26318495
>>26318669
she could pasteurize my milk, if you know what i mean

>>26332793

Are you okay?

>>26331586
>>26318485

Anyone with a private pension or personal retirement savings is going to get yoinked by the government to rescue the retarded unfunded pensions and will get rolled in to receive their monthly pittance.
The other option may be that they raise taxes to 80-90% so there was no point in using tax sheltered accounts in the first place.

>>26332587
Link?

feeling pretty bullish about gold, silver as well.

>>26329583
same as you would determine if any coin is fake.
best place to start is to see if it's cast instead of die struck, and weight.

>>26333207

With 50% of the usd in circulation getting printing soon by biden to fund his insane ideas and wars, you're going to do well with anything real. It might take a few years for the US to collapse, but it's inevitable now. And every fiat on earth is tied to the dollar.

>>26319070
>want to post stack but still stacklett and feel like fag for keeping them all wrapped and untouched
will i ever make it bros?

>>26333176
https://www.desogames.com/an-epic-of-corruption-perseverance-and-the-new-gold/

>>26325311
>KS exploded for literally no reason aside from outside hype

But that's the thing, there was no hype other than from this place. People on CEO were calling it a pump and dump. >>26325337

>>26323470
No. Who are you gonna sell it to and for what? gonna take 10 truck loads to the nearest cash for scrap to get $150 profit before gas???

>>26333576
Looks like you need a password to read it which means you need to subscribe.

>>26333495
Post it, fren. We don't judge
We all start from somewhere. That's the beauty of stackin'

>>26333495
tfw I want to post my stack but am getting too paranoid to do so

>>26333495
Climb that mountain anon, we all started somewhere, I personally LOVE seeing smaller stacks.

>>26333495
Something is better than nothing
>t. also stacklet

>>26329583
Like any other coin. Compare the pictures on fleebay to the one on NGC, that’s all you can do until you get the coin. Look for tooling marks, bubble pops, wrong fonts, wrong dates, look at the quality of the design, does it seem like unsharp or weak (not mentioning wear). Look for the posts description it says anything about exunomia, silverplated, or German silver it’s not real.

When you actually get it is when you can verify if it’s real. Ice test, magnet test, ping test, bleach test, weight and diameter.

Most sellers have a no hassle return policy, this is what scammers take advantage of. They knowingly will ship a fake and expect you to return the coin, you’ll get your refund but they keep you initial shipping cost, which they probably shipped out for a fraction of what you paid for in shipping.

eBay is safe, you may get a couple scams but they usually go for stuff with a high premium and/or gold, junk silver isn’t really on the lists for scammers since it’s return isn’t nearly as good. And of course DYOR.

>>26326747
>photo of a screen
>not sorted alphabetically
>not sorted by allocation
>censoring column instead of hiding
>precision at 4 decimals

>>26329967
isnt that this?

https://www.goldenstatemint.com/1-oz-Aztec-Calendar-Silver-Round-999-Fine.html

they have a gold version too

>>26334244
boomer maybe?

On the subject of deso, I just bought a shit load is PEN after reading his uranium article. I already have a very solid uranium portfolio, FSY, FIND, STND, PTU, API... And PEN is the highest market cap of all of them, but I did my own DD on PEN and it's a master class.

One thing I didn't get was that deso mentioned Rick rule providing private finance for them, but I couldn't see anything to prove that?

>>26334481
so why it was dropping like a rock for years ? also his new article is garbage tier, he went full schizo.

>>26322612
This is akin to selling overpriced candy bars at the register in the grocery store. If you're spending a lot on gold/silver, what is $5 for an ounce of copper? What is that? $80 a pound?

>>26334914
>so why it was dropping like a rock for years ?

If you can't figure that out for yourself anon...

What has happened to most commodity stocks for the past 10 years?

>>26335017
I Am Ham - noice ID

>>26319293
Anon, help, does anything need to be reported for boating accidents?

>>26324167
that's some nice penmanship

LYC moooooning

>>26321161
welp, time to start stacking
need me some onee-san gf's

>>26335178
nah dude dont give me shit like that after you called the company master class lmfao. not a single legit company did fuckin 5$ to 2 cents, this shit is looking worse than chink crypto scams and you call it master class, also their mine is in USA, stock is in australia, and Biden just got into office, didnt he already signed something to stop OIL mining or whatever already?

>>26331162
Nigger, you probably don't even own a car, let alone a business.

>>26333717
>>26333719
>>26333783
>>26333795
alright frenz you wore me down

>>26335698
That would be a decline of 99%. Many commodity stocks have done that over the last 10 years, LYC being one of them(another one of desos picks)

Fuck I can name dozens of companies that are legit that have experienced declines of 99% during the bear market.

You don't know fucking anything about the commodity cycles, and you don't know what the fuck your talking about.

>>26335957
Hell ye. Fondle free stacks are welcome fren.

>>26336060
i have that one buffalo in the front for fondling

>>26333650
hercules

>>26335998
>master class company
>does -99% in a bear market
so every other commodity company that X product went into bear market and company didn't lost 99% of its value it's like galactic tier right?

for stock to lose 99% in value from the top, there has to be other problems than just a fuckin bear market.

not to mention this "investment" is nothing different from gambling on a shitcoin from pure speculative perspective aka making money perspective.

i dont see Gazprom, KGHM , Kazatomprom losing 99% of its stock value just because
>muh bear market

and thats your only argument " i dont know what im talking about". fuckin idiot lmao

>>26335957
Why are you into the CCP coins?

>>26336511
idk
i like the aesthetic and i thought it was an ironic buy for 2020
honestly want more ccp 2020 coins
2021 pandas kinda suck

>>26336306
Kek it actually worked

>>26324988
wasted digits, and somebody spent time rendering a BACKWARDS SWASTIKA
my day is ruined, I wasn't even mad about the mass dump

>>26326747
oh wow you own more percent than me fuck

Wanted to flip some easy money on Ethereum to convert into PMs, ended up doing the /biz/ special of buying high and selling low so much I only made 10% returns. Could have had a nice oz of Gold, now have to settle for some more silver.

Fuck the HODLers man, why did I get tricked by one.

>>26335957
Thanks to the reflections now I know your identity and address

>>26321092
Take the magpie pill

>>26337216
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
IM CALLING THE POLICE!!!!
I KNEW THIS WAS A BAD IDEA

>>26336472
https://www.desogames.com/the-uranium-bullrun-and-my-main-investment/

>Provides plethora of objective evidence and supporting arguments
>Your a shcizo shitcoin gambler!

Fuck off

>>26335998
>ZAC gets BTFO'd
>stops posting
>opens up plebbit

>>26337332
Don't worry friend, I am coming!

>>26337509
STAY AWAY

>>26337399
>company did -99% like a shitcoin
>X person loads up bags at 3-4 cents
>guys i have article coming up
>great stock 15 cents now load up, i sold info for weeks prior to publishing it
not even calling the stock a shitcoin, i can do this devil all day. this company went from 5$ to 2 cents, you can suck my dick.

the biggest argument is that they have cash, and equipment to restart, but maybe they fuckin wont, and it will go to 20 cents and back to 4 cents.

like a fuckin shitcoin.

show me reasons it went down 99% because for sure it was not because of uranium market price

Picked up more sterling and pewter from the antique mall today. Got a solid sterling bell, tea strainer, and a sterling handled carving set representing ~110g sterling silver (melt value ~$84.75) for $38.50, and a pound of pewter for $3.

>>26326383
>Where do you get your ancient stuff from?
Primarily eBay and directly from the metal detectorists in Europe and Turkey. Assloads of fakes are out there so be careful, good ones are often harder to detect than any fake coin.

>>26337578
Whatever you do, do not look back..

>>26326133
Your stack doesn't get stolen regularily?

>>26337961
what do forks and spoons normally weigh?
whats a good price for a sterling silverware?
theres an antique store in my town thats been holding these silverware sets for a long time and said no one's bought them in years
thinking of going there and talking them down

>>26324763
I like the 100 Kronen because it's nearly 1oz, but the 4 Ducat face is just so much nicer, and the thin coin is also quite sexy.

>>26336804
>>26336306
>>26333650
>>26333576
>>26332587

Who and what and why?
Why the fuck would they rar a pdf and put it behind a password protection and shit?
I don't trust this

And why the hell should I read that instead of this 180 page research report on semiconductors focused on China?

>>26320471
this thread is for people who already have

>>26338109
>what do forks and spoons normally weigh?

Hard to answer fren, there were serving forks of all descriptions, dinner, luncheon, pastry, salad, and cocktail forks all with different weights. Same with spoons, you have serving, soup, gumbo, boullion, table, tea, 5-o-clock tea, demitasse, etc.

>whats a good price for a sterling silverware?

A good price is no more than 50 cents per gram of solid sterling, so bring a pocket scale. Sterling handled knives with steel or stainless blades can be tricky like forks and spoons because you have carving sets, dinner, luncheon, and
little butter knives (lowest yielders at 12-16g per handle) but if you can get any of the knives for $6 or less then you're doing fine.

>>26334914
>>26335178
The article was trash. He didn't even include potential cash flows at variable uranium prices.
However, he points out exactly why the stock has been falling so long. They have very high maintenance capex compared to other companies that aren't producing because they have a ton of equipment ready to go as soon as prices correct. Because of the bear market they just decided to dilute instead of merge into a larger corp.

>>26338221
Because whoever posted it ITT is either the author themselves or someone working for the author

>>26329805
these look like those akbar ass bars

https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/

>>26337635
>the biggest argument is that they have cash, and equipment to restart, but maybe they fuckin wont, and it will go to 20 cents and back to 4 cents
They can't because the market has given their equity such a high valuation. Because the market has decided this company is going to survive, the company is going to survive. Maybe it'll never 50x because uranium never goes >50, but in that case you just bleed. Deso never explained this (because he doesn't actually understand this part) but the payoff function is verrrrrry attractive if you think we have a good chance of seeing higher uranium prices and or inflation.

Learn what "reflexivity" is before you start slinging shit like a retard. It's why George Soros gets to control half the world despite being pretty fucking stupid everywhere else.

>>26319340

When the big crash comes I'll bury my gold near a river, so that in 100k years Grug Jr can find my coins washed up on a distant shore, and they become the most valuable posession of the Knee-club Tribe.
Meanwhile I'll be in hell, still laughing at the Cryptoniggers who thought their shitcoins are crisis proof, while not even leaving a trace of their "wealth".

>>26319488
It's more that if a Butthorse shill senses doubt he will immediately lambast you on how there's 30 quadrillion ounces in the ground, the CEO has personally wiped his dick on each of these ounces, and it is your duty under god and as a man to waste as much of your bank account as you can on this holy investment. Fuck every pretentious faggot who shills it.

>>26339131
>Meanwhile I'll be in hell, still laughing at the Cryptoniggers who thought their shitcoins are crisis proof, while not even leaving a trace of their "wealth".
The only traces of their wealth will be the small flakes of gold, silver and copper left over from their computer chips.

how we doing today guys? Anything happening I miss?

>>26323561
ok

>>26339131
When the big crash comes I will start burying pieces of the 6000 sq foot roll of tin foil I got from Costco for $8.99 all over my backyard at varying depths while driving rebar into every wall. The FEDbois will take decades to find my stash.

>>26339531
https://youtu.be/Ec3mkoSWf0A?t=4594

This very interesting glitch happened, and now nobody knows what the hell is going on anymore.

>>26336306
Thanks fren

>>26339735
I see the same tech guy they had on the campaign trail is working in the white house.

Also why don't most stackers just vacuum pack their pms and put them into ugly garden gnomes and seal them up with plaster?

>>26335957
At least bust up those rolls of dimes. I'd make sure (((apmex))) didn't short you one. Wouldn't you like to see how many mercs or barbers you got in there?

>>26340017
Dude , people steal garden gnomes all the time

Gold is really magical, you're basically buying money for next to nothing, a small premium that would hardly cover shipping for a phone or a pair of shoes.
But unlike buying shoes, you don't lose the money you buy with, you actually just turn it into physical money.

>>26339735
what am i looking at here.

>>26326133
Interdimensional beings can steal from you any time and they shift your dimension. Making you think that those were new but were stolen before anon even bought them.

>>26339735
well thats on par with everything else thats going on, like how Quartz is already writing about what to do if Biden suddenly dies.

On PM related news Skeena resources is making headway on building their new onsite camp at Eskay Creek, and equipment is arriving at Ascots Premier mill earlier than planned.

BIG STRONG AUSTRALIAN EAGLES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4DeNbm1BNU

thoughts lads?

>>26340744
I think we could see banks declaring permanent large physical gold positions in the very near future. Everyone knows that the US20+ maturities are sub-junk grade.

>>26318427
fresh bread please baker

>>26341108
still a little early yet but baker will probably be on it shortly.

>>26341108
He’s a yuropoor so he might not be awake

>>26326099
what lighting makes gold look that juicy?

>>26340744
basically were going to see an economic war for gold

>>26338618
thanks bro i dont have a pocket scale so thats why i was asking

>>26340046
i did actually just rolled it back up kek

>>26340727
Some bretty chad eagles there fren

>>26337972
Is this real?

>>26335957
Why would you keep all your coins in plastic like that. You’re never getting above spot for those.

>>26341469
This is going to be one of those times I kick my ass for not taking the plunge and buying more, I can feel it

>>26342001
As long as he's not playing tiddlywinks with them they should be okay for years in those plastic envelopes.

>>26342146
>>26342146
>>26342146
NEW BREAD!

Might be early but iam tired.

>>26340727
That is fantastic. If only they mentioned chris cole.

>>26342027
I get paid next Friday so Saturday I'm going to get a sovereign or two.

>>26327898
Ahh, a fellow connoisseur of ye olde Athena. Here you go bud. Can't hook you up with gold, but at least you can get the lizard-less version for an affordable price.

https://mkbarzandbullion.com/collections/all-products/products/1-oz-mk-barz-owl-of-athena-replica-ancient-coin-999-fs