/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>262914
>Bragging like a faggot
>Ever
Congrats that you've got options but do you really feel better after posting this on an image board?

>>262916
yes

>>262914
What could anyone possibly gain from asking you questions? You don't really know anything, you were just fortunate enough to be born into a situation where you are pretty much guaranteed to succeed, and anyone else in a similar situation doesn't really need any questions answered. You haven't acquired any sort of wisdom or anything, so what's the purpose of this thread?

>>262922
bragging, god-tier high schooling, pro-tips on being born white, burnt orange color coordination

>>262914
what courses do you need for your quant degree (a link will do)

>be me
>barely graduated high school
>went to a community college for a few months and dropped out (paid a few hundred total)
>started my own business when I was 20
>became a millionaire by 26

Good luck on that overpriced education.

>>262950
http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/BBA/Advising/Degree-Planning/Business-Majors/FIN under the quantitative tab

>>262963
Thanks based small business owner!

>>262924
>pro-tips on being born white

You know what? Fuck you. All you're doing is perpetuating the idea that whites are privileged.

Whites brought up in poor families/situations are shat on left right and center, and then have to deal with people suggesting that we've had it easy.

>>262979
>Implying I don't have a better life because I'm white
If someone gives you shit for being in the struggle, no matter what color you are, they're not someone you should associate with, but I wouldn't choose to be in my same situation but black/hispanic/other.

>>262914
congrats on getting in, but start talking shit when you're actually in college and doing well

>>262963
spoon pics or it didn't happen

what is your opinion on qualitative research?

so you spend 8 horus a day quanting so your hedge fund beats the market average by a few percentiles, then some faggot from 4chan doxes an executive, discovers he has been attending meetings with big pharma across europe, tigerasia and the us, coaxes a med student on reddit into explaining whether their drug will work or not and gains 50%+ returns in a month

what then?

>>262994

I'm a senior studying engineering.

All of the blacks and hispanics in my class have job offers, most of them have shittier grades than me. They also got free rides through school. All of the women have offers too. Most of the whites with job offers only had connections.

I busted my ass, got good grades, had two internships, and can't even get the time of day from employers. I don't have any family connections.

Where do I sign up for my special white privilege, because I could really use it right now.

Nobody cares kid. Come back in 7 years when you have a job and something to contribute.

>>262924
>bragging
why do you partake in nigger behaviour?

>>263006

When did you start looking for jobs? how come you weren't offered a full time position from your previous internships? How much time and effort do you put in on a daily or weekly basis to find opportunities? And also have you considered every option?

>>263018

I started looking last September.

I wasn't offered a full time position from my first internship because I was only a sophomore, and they didn't have any positions. I left on very good terms with them, contacted them recently and they still have no positions open. The second one was just stringing me along with no intention of actually hiring me (they had done that to pretty much every other intern I found out; some interns had been there 2 years after graduating, still making intern pay).

I'm still in school so I can't look for jobs full time but I try to apply to at the very least one company per day, lots more on the weekends.

>>263030

And what engineering are you doing?
And for alternative options if you can't get into
the specific engineering discipline that you are studying have you considered grad school or other industries like finance? (the reason why I brought this up is because a lot of jobs or internships that I applied to often prefer people with more quantitative backgrounds (math, physics, engineering) rather than econ, finance, and everything else

>>263057

I'm doing electrical.

As far as alternatives, yes I've considered it but it's hard to even imagine what I can apply for. I don't know how to break into these fields, especially finance. It seems like you can't get anywhere in finance unless you know someone. I don't know anything about IT, only have basic programming skills so I can't really do software or IT/networking stuff. I can't really think of what else I can do.

Grad school? That would be an option if I wasn't 25 years old already. I NEED to get to work and start making money. Before you ask, I'm 25 year old senior because I was a NEET before college.

I've been trying to fix my life but nothing I ever do seems to work out. It's like my fate was decided 7 years ago. I'm more stressed out right now than I ever have been in my whole life. I've "come a long way" and I'm worried it's all going to be for nothing.

>>263076
mate
relax

if you're willing to move you should be good

>bragging about being in high school
Pretty pathetic OP. Wait till you've accomplished something.

>>263076

What field are you trying to get into? Or are you just applying all over the place? Have you tried asking your professors for help?

>Grad school? That would be an option if I wasn't 25 years old already. I NEED to get to work and start making money.

Well if you could get a grant, it's better than being unemployed. In fact you should avoid being unemployed at all costs. You can always drop out of grad school once you have found your first industry job.

>>263076

>It seems like you can't get anywhere in finance unless you know someone.

this is true for any industry, especially finance
so your best bet to combat that is reach out to alumni and people that you might now in positions that you like in order to make those connections

>I've been trying to fix my life
at least you are working on it and haven't given up

>I'm more stressed out right now

don't get stressed out (I know easier said than done) but all that you have done isn't for nothing. Just keep looking and be open to any alternatives. But your primary focus right now should be on networking

>>263090

I'm applying all across the country.

>>263122

I'm applying for pretty much any EE job out there that isn't wildly beyond my qualifications. I don't particularly care what field I go into.

I'm actually enrolled in the accelerated 5 year program where you can complete a masters in one year after you get your BS. It's just that there's no grant, it's expensive and I'm really not interested. I can do it if need be but what I need is a job, not more useless schooling.

>>263124

I don't know how to reach out to alumni. Where do I even look? I don't know that many people, I'm a recovering NEET. And I'm not going to be wowing anyone with my charisma anytime soon. Networking just seems like a code word for nepotism that people that already have connections use to make it seem like they worked to build that network.

>>263076
Electrical Engineering Technologist here. I have worked in sales, design, project management and technician jobs. It's very challenging starting out but if you have communication skills I would suggest pushing your efforts towards service positions as the glut of indian and chinese engineers rarely get hired for these positions

>>263136

Well, like I said, I'm an ex-NEET. I don't have very good verbal communications skills, I'm not sure what kind of sucker would buy something I'm selling.

I wouldn't mind being in those fields, and I've applied to plenty of systems engineering positions as well. I'm not sure how to get into project management with no experience.

>>263136
ive been looking into a MET degree, I see the differences in an actual ME degree vs a MET.

How are job prospects for people with technologist degrees versus an actual engineering degree?

would just getting an associates in MET be a bad idea?

thx m8

>>263135

The easiest way to reach out to alumni is through your school's career center, alumni database, linkedin. You don't have to have Clinton's charisma to land a job or get people to give you stuff. All you need to do is know how to sell yourself. This is coming from someone who was super anti-social in HS, had only 2 friends in his freshmen year in college and then was blessed with the opportunity to work for a global mm IB. so even though you are a former neet you can learn how to network

>>262914

Thats cool and all but what the fuck is the point of this thread? Are we all supposed to collectively suck your dick or something?

>>263153

But I don't know how to even get to the part where I'm selling myself.

Just cold messaging someone who went to my school seems so strange, I wouldn't even know where to begin.

>>263148
If you are a hands on learner the technologist degree is good. Speaking from the electrical side It's becoming more highly recognized as the bachelors program focuses on a lot of complex math that you may never use. I started as a technician testing parts for drives then got an inside sales role with some design in a small panel shop. Now I am a sales engineer for a supplier selling mechanical components. If you are a jack of all trades type this degree will serve you well

>>263206
Would an associates be a bad idea though? I'm looking at the convenience of two years and the cost of the program is a lot cheaper

I already have a job at an automotive parts supplier, one of the engineers told me id probably end up in maintenance or if I did get an engineering job I could only go up to engineer II

thx for the advice mate appreciate it as im really unsure of what I want to do. I really just had a bad experience with HS and want to keep working, I abhor the idea of five years more education (it will take me five years for a four year ME degree because of my situation)

>Rejected from Cornell and Northwestern
Top Lel

>>263217
Experience will generally trump education in this field. I had an internship at a power plant and a lot of the mechanical engineers were former millwrights with no engineering background. The technologist degree will have its limitations depending on the company but i graduated 3 years ago with some guys much smarter than myself who have upper management roles and others pushing 6 figures in maintenance. I took a 3 year technologist degree (ontario, canada) and havent had any trouble finding employment. Learn as much as you can from the maintenance/engineering guys and it will give you a huge leg up on competition.

>>263267
ill be sure to talk to them again when i go back to work. I don't really wanna do maint. I would rather go into design engineering or the engineering dept that sets up the machines.

Good thing about working here already is my foot is in the door and im pretty much guaranteed a job if there's an opening

>>263280
If you choose to go with the tech route you will often serve a swing role between engineering and maintenance. For the most part a P Eng wont get his hands dirty and maintenance guys avoid computers. I found design boring but it really depends on the variety of machinery you will be working on. If you are working in automotive then an MET with CNC knowledge will get you started around a 50k job for a dirt cheap education. Good investment and if you do choose to go for a bachelors in the future you are well on your way

>>263329
im an assembly worker making 30k (top out is around 40k im pretty sure) already. Not bad considering I dont do jack shit, and have no education past HS.

Design engineers come up with the part, right? that's the way he explained it to me but he said his dept had something to do with installing the new machines.

We have a molding dept as well but I don't wanna go into any of that

I'm just at a crossroads. I don't see a point in getting a four year MET degree when (according to the engineer at work) a ME degree would be more valuable.

I just hate the idea of putting my life on hold for studies. I just want to keep making dosh and actually having freedom to do what I want.

>>263338
If you are going to be spending 4 years to be a mech tech then it makes more sense to go for an ME depending on your financial situation. Unless you have a solid background + internships you will likely start your career off as a tech either way.

An ME degree will give you greater upward mobility depending on the company. In engineering getting the degree is usually more challenging than the work you will do when you graduate.

Design engineers spend a lot of time dealing with applications. You will be counted on to integrate new machinery for installs and probably wont be developing too much unless your company is heavy into R&D and most larger companies want a Masters + experience for designing prototypes.

>>263429
my biggest issue is I have no help when it comes to paying for my education. I don't want to live on a uni campus and if I go to CC I have to work full time to pay for my living expenses.

It seems like for my situation the MET two year program would be best, but that would be short term.

I don't want to make a decision that I'll regret later on life. I'm really torn on what to do. This is why I say I don't wanna put my life on hold.

I don't know what to do and it feels bad mang

on the bright side my mom doesn't work and lives off my (basically) step dad and my parents are divorced. So I qualify for every poor person grant. I still don't know what to do though.

Really appreciate the help, I don't have many people I can discuss this with

>35 act
>also reject from NU

>>263453
I had no idea what I wanted to either and I literally knew nothing about electrical engineering since my HS only had biology as a science course past 10th grade. I just knew I wanted something secure for a middle class lifestyle and I wanted to get done school asap. I came damn close to going for a marketing degree but my dads a millwright and said I am made for engineering.

CC cost 2 grand a year and the 3 year EET associates was listed as the top paying college program. I was accepted into marketing but took EET instead. Right now I make around 80k including commission+bonus and also have travel/hotel coverage. Personally it was a great investment as I get to do the marketing that I like, I got out of school without debt in 3 years, and my job duties are:

>smile and crack jokes
>dont be autistic
>google and excel
>get tipsy with clients and occasionally smoke a joint or do a line of blow with a customer

3 years ago I was a burnout taking a year off school working at an automotive supplier as a machine operator pressing the red and green buttons. I was a very average student and my work habits are laughable but its working out pretty well.

My advice is to take the 2 year associates. I hated how difficult I found the courses and would have definitely dropped out if I couldnt see the finish line. Even with the 3 year technologist diploma less than a third of my class finished the course. There are many different avenues you will explore during college and you will find out what you are best at. CC is great because most jobs want experience and a lot of unis focus on the theoretical side over the practical.

>>262924
>Jew
>white

Pick one. As for your schooling, good luck, because you will need it. The quant job market is highly competitive. You need to have person skills, which you obviously don't have.

>>262914
congratulation! what are you going to buy with your first wage?

>>262919
lol
you are funny brother

>>264009
>person skills
social skills don't matter unless you are in sales

>>264005
>do a line of blow with a customer
>>can you function while taking all these drugs?
you really get paid for that shit?

>>264067
It does matter in the financial world, even for quants. Certainly not as much as in sales, but it's important that a quant know how to be an effective communicator. A quant has to be able to communicate with non-technical people. They aren't just stuck in their own cubicle without ever interacting with anyone.

>>264069
>effective communicator
what the fuck does that buzzword even mean unless he struggles with speech impediment he wont run into any trouble at all

you are just making up random crap to make yourself feel better

>>264070
What's with the hostility? Why all the frothing buttmad? I simply stated that a quant needs to be able to explain to non-quants what their models are all about. You may be a genius at being a quant, but if you can't make the people who matter understand what you do, you won't get far.

>>264072
bollocks, nobody needs to understand what you do!
You are only required to do your job without any mistakes! people don't care how shit works they just want the results

i am hostile to you because you attack OP

why can't you be happy for OP, instead of raining on his parade?

does it really relieve thatfeel.jpg to put others down?

>tfw OP's prospects aren't so good as he thinks
So you turned down Cornell to go to a school that's not even top 50? And are bragging? Your college acceptances will mean nothing once you start at Texas

>>264068
>>264068
not that guy but big time sales reps make bank

Does anyone know if you can make any money with an International Relations degree? I'm probably going to Tufts next year and I think they have a program that's supposed to be good for it.

>turned down cornell

OP you need to get your priorities straight

>>262914

Meh, you're barley above average. Not that impressed, you haven't even used what you learn yet to make money. 12 year old can teach themselves finance and succeed with it. Grats.

>>264353
With IR you will be able to apply for work at embassies and NGOs. It's not big money, but it's not a bad place to get your foot into the door either.

>>264367
Is it a field that's only rewarding if it's something you're extremely interested in?

>>264375
It really depends on what you want. If you only want money, it's not your thing. It's not a field where you go in wanting to go up and become something big. But you could still become a diplomat or ambassador or something like that. It's more of a calling, you need to have the mindset of talking to people and being friends with them, across all nationalities. If you become an ambassador, then depending on the country your job might be to attend fancy dinner parties.