/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for /ss/

>>26242864
Second for fuck the Dollar.

2nd for PAAS mooning today

What is the tier list for ways to own gold. Physical number one and then what? I have heard of having a third party holding it for you for a fee, I have seen things like GoldMoney, funds like PHYS. Are these all acceptable options?

>>26242908
Physicals and then miners. Nothing else.

Redpill me on sapphires, emeralds and ruby’s

>>26242815

>>26242897
There's a /pmg/ version if that image, fren.

>>26242908
>Physical (at home)
>Allocated physical with a trusted vault
>Gold-backed ETFs like PHYS
>Miners
>fiat (at home, physical)
>worthless gold ETFs payable in fiat

>>26242908
yes pay the new to hold your gold

>>26242925
Not going to invest in miners. Physical it is I guess.

>>26242931
gemstones may look nice but often dont hold their value the same way PMs do. Also its getting more difficult to spot lab made vs naturally occurring stones too. I love them as natural treasure all the same though.

>>26242959
Is GoldMoney an example of allocated physical?
>>26242966
Pay the new?

>>26242931
Might be precious, but not metals - generally

>>26242815
Bless you, PAN MAN. Thanks for baking.

Remember, STACK RHENIUM

>>26242998
Kenesis Gold and GoldPass are both fully physically allocated if I recall correctly.

>>26242908
I myself prefer the 24kt edible foil. As I sit here typing this I am happily chewing on a small box of gold leaf fresh from the smelter. I look forward to one day becoming more than a stacker. I aim to become the stack. Now that I've finished my gold leaf sandwich, I intend to wash it down with colloidal silver.

memes and anime are actually bearish for gold. you posting them are the sole reason we will be crabbing for months.

When is the right time to invest in precious metals? I'm a 25 year-old with a 2-year old son and I'm still renting an apartment. I am saving up to buy myself a house, preferably with some land. I am investing in stocks, index-funds and certain established cryptocurrencies. However, I have always thought that when I am more established in this life that I would start investing in Silver. I am a total noob on the subject, however I have recently read that silver is something that only forms on the earths crust and thus can not be mined from asteroids. Also been thinking about tungsten, which wold be a solid investment if war-time rolls around, or so I have heard. What do you think /pmg/? Is my plan to invest in precious metals later in life solid?

>>26242998
Yes, they are allocated 1:1. They even give a chart similar to my greentext on their website

>>26242986
I would say they hold their value but they’re hard to off load.

I collect minerals and I too don’t care if they ever make me money. I probably wouldn’t sell any unless I had an absurd amount.

>>26242998
pay the JEW

>>26243048
Just don't bath in Aqua Regia.

>>26243071
yes honestly thats the better way to think about it, I buy samples of neat minerals once in a while and I dont expect them to fetch much down the line, though I probably should mention that in the will just in case.

>listen to pompliano v schiff podcast
>go from btc bull to goldbug + btc bear
Schiff makes some dumb arguments but fuck me is Pompliano really an example of a BTC bull? The guy has no idea what he's talking about.
>scarcity!
lots of things are scarce but we don't use charizard pokemon cards to back currencies
>buying a BTC is "having a share in the most powerful computer network"
Except you just hold a coin. You don't have any right to the underlying computing power. You can't use it to run any computation except "send x btc to x person" and that takes hours and costs heaps
>gold has unlimited supply!
dumbest argument of all. We can't make new gold. It was made in the big bang. Once the accessible gold on earth is used up, that's it, until we eventually mine asteroids because gold is millions of dollars an ounce.
>btc is easy to transfer
This is true. However, it's also very easy to lose/steal, whereas you can't hack gold. Governments come and go all the time and many of them are incompetent or contain outright frauds. But even brainlets who don't understand computers can lock a safe. A corrupt treasury clerk could empty national treasuries in a single transaction, but they sure as shit can't carry out tonnes of gold.
>btc is great for cash
completely traceable from the day it was mined until forever. Gold makes better cash because you can't trace it. Many governments already don't allow Monero profits to be taken into bank accounts. But they can't stop you from giving someone gold in exchange for their goods or services.
>btc has always gone up so it will always go up
hasn't survived a deflationary period or a real financial crisis yet. Satoshi hasn't moved his bags yet either. Shit argument anyway because you could say this about many things, including Tesla.

Anyway, rant over. Schiff didn't convince me that gold is better, but Pompliano sure scared me off BTC.

>>26242966
why not become the jew and hold gold for others?

>>26243059
Dude, the earth is made of asteroids. You can’t “make” more silver without a super nova, and really gravity is reconstituting smaller atoms into larger ones via gravity and pressure.

Start stacking now. Get started with Mercury pennies and other 90% coins. Go to your local CCA or good will to find cheap sterling. I’m glad to hear your investment minded. I’d recommend getting that house ASAP as housing is just going to get more expensive as time goes on, but if you have a mind to go purchase silver with your spare money. Janet Yellen (incoming treasury secretary and former fed chairman) said she’s going to print us out of this mess. We’re guaranteed to see inflation, so precious metals (PM) are a haven for your wealth.

>>26243059
I would use PMs as a hedge against stocks/crypto, since the latter two correlate with one another while they are anti-correlated with precious metals. Since you are young, dabbling in silver now is a decent idea, although it does carry more risk than gold. I don't know anything about tungsten.

>>26243059
>established cryptocurrencies
>asteroid fud
This must be a bait. Here is your (you).

>>26243213
>Mercury pennies

>>26243059
>I am a total noob on the subject
I recommend this
"Guide To Investing in Gold & Silver: Protect Your Financial Future" by Mike Maloney
https://files.catbox.moe/v02au2.pdf

It explains precious metals pretty well and its roles

>>26243176
As someone who much prefers physical metals in hand but does see numerous merits of cryptocurrencies and blockchain tech (which I have positioned myself accordingly in), it astounds me how so many bulls don't understand the first thing about what they are shilling. It's probably the biggest reason why people in here hate crypto so much, because 90% of the people marketing it don't even understand the fundamental principles of sound money and how it does/doesn't apply to crypto.

I keep a fraction of my stack at the bank so when the feds start confiscating gold I can claim that's all I had.

> General environmentalist rage post I couldn't send in the last thread

You know I didn't believe this for a long time. I'd call myself an environmentalist, I always try to leave a site in as good condition as I can, and I don't tear up habitat with equipment if I don't need to. If I'm seeding a hillside I always do my research and see what I can plant to minimize erosion. I never let oil or hydraulic fluid from a machine get into a stream if I can help it, and if I'm mixing really hazardous chemicals use mats so as little as possible gets in groundwater.

That all changed when I went to college and met the people that call themselves environmentalists. They'd never go out with a machine and a chainsaw and do a stand release, or try to improve a river. They fly commercial from LA to New York all the time while chastising people for driving anywhere. They don't hate environmental destruction, they have a deep seated hatred of any type of achievement. Its such a mindfuck and I still like looking at a piece of land I improved or a native tree I saved but these fucks make me want to go pour a drum of 90w in their eco garden that never makes any food anyway.

>>26243153
I think the real racket to get into is jewelry making. The markup over cost of materials, time and know how is ABSURD.

I’m going to buy a Facetron faceting machine here in the next few months and start cutting gems. My ultimate dream is to get with a machinist I know and start bruiting diamonds which I will then facet and sell to jewelry makers bellow the cost which de biers and Indians/Chinese sell them.

Have you ever found anything cool (gemstone related) up in Canada, Pan Man?

Are all of the allocated physical places roughly equal? GoldMoney, Kinesis, BullionVault, OneGold. Is one better than the others? Is GoldPass also in this same category?

>>26243248
Shit, dimes, sorry. I don’t stack coins.

>>26243342
that was my experience with modern environmental thinking too. It genuinely hurts to think about how fucked someones mindset is to think this way. They never leave their comfort zones either, their too afraid to actually venture out and experience the true wilderness, happily ignoring it for a walk around stanley park. They decry modern heavy industry but could not exist both mentally and physically without it. I ve seen this first hand when these idiots try to work in camps fresh out of university, most freak out and leave after their first two weeks.

>>26243014
Based Rhenium is rarer than gold but a Kilogram of it costs about the same amount as an ounce of gold, making it about two times as expensive as silver. Amazing deal. It is much harder to melt and use as money than gold though

>>26243381
O I ve looked all over the place and found pegmatites with aquamarine, some gem garnets, a few spinels and emeralds too, but nothing gem worthy. My mate Herb Hyder though who I ve mentioned before, hes the gem guy of BC, dudes found things in places no one else thought could happen. Hes the first guy to pan a 4 carat diamond from a BC stream this season for example. I keep badgering him to take me with him on a trip but hes real hard core, dont know if i could keep up.

>>26243342
Based and anti-city-hippy pilled. I’m right there with you, bud. Most of these tree huggers spend a weekend in the mountains and suddenly they’ve discovered nature for everyone. If you want to see real outdoorsy people check out actual cowboys. They set up stock tanks and herd cattle from deep in national forest wilderness. They go places 4x4s and cyclists would never dream of going.

Here's some sloppily edited OC.

>>26243546
nvm it's $200-$400 more expensive than silver per Kg so it's a great deal

>>26243546
True true. I’m waiting for some tech like catalytic converters to drive up the price like it did for palladium and then off load when there’s a desperate demand. I’m thinking brain implants and cyborg shit will need to have a thin layer of rhenium to prevent corrosion. It’s too unique a substance not to have more applications for. I’m gonna buy a kilo here pretty soon. What prices have you seen?

>>26243213
You mean chairwoman

>>26243176
Agreed with you about a lot of this, Schiff's arguments against BTC aren't very sophisticated, but then BTC maxis are absolute retards also. The amount of dumb shit you hear from the Facebook loser twins, along with some of the more recognisable swindlers and idiots like Adam Back, Dan Held, Pierre Rochard, Michael Saylor and Pomp, all the same regurgitated crap that is 0% factual, 0% useful and 100% cult-speak to try and sway normies into their ponzi.

There are some people in the space that make good arguments (technical and philosophical) both for and against BTC, guys like Radigan Carter, Deryk Makgill, Michael Green, Travis Kimmel, Eric Wall, good old Gavin Andresen, Paul Sztorc, Stephen Livera, Alex Saunders, hell even Peter Schiff's own son has a more nuanced view of things.

>>26243559
I’ve always thought about alluvial diamonds in North America. It seems the best fields are in Africa, of course, but surely there’s kimberlite host rock somewhere on this continent.

>>26243684
No, I meant man. Have you seen that mug? Reminds me of Chuck Schumer’s “wife”.

Ben bernke is epic /s
https://youtu.be/xhlhDuOukKs

>>26243559
Do you know Dan Hurd? I watch his panning videos on YouTube occasionally.

>>26243668
I've seen $1500 USD for 1kg

>>26243715
>It seems the best fields are in Africa, of course, but surely there’s kimberlite host rock somewhere on this continent.
There's some in Canada's Northwest Territories. There's a small diamond mine in Arkansas and there was a diamond mine in Colorado in the 90s. Diamonds have occasionally been found in the appalachians, but those are extremely rare so there probably isn't much use in looking for them there.

General advice seems to be, don't wait start now. However, my current investments are more focused on giving me returns somewhere between the next 3-5 years. Correct me if my thinking is wrong here, but investing in precious metals is more of a lifetime investment to protect my assets from losing value with inflation. So I might buy some coins, sure, but the house is the current focus.
>>26243213
>Dude, the earth is made of asteroids. You can’t “make” more silver without a super nova, and really gravity is reconstituting smaller atoms into larger ones via gravity and pressure.
This is something I probably read on /biz/ a while ago, so yeah I am a total noob. I figured if it was more finite than gold will ever be then it would be solid. Thanks for your advice, I am not situated in the US, but rest assured the housing market is fucked all over the world. I am really just looking for a temporary place to live while my son grows up, when he is 18-20 I am fucking off to the mountain halls here in Norway. I am also investing some of my wages for his future, so he might have a chance to buy himself a home someday. Also not sure what mercury pennies/dimes are, but I will look into it.
>>26243228
Just a total noob, also didn't consider that calling cryptocurrencies established in a pmg thread probably is regarded as heresy.
>>26243251
Thanks for the book advice and link.
>>26243223
Thanks. I will look into how that is done, I started investing roughly a year ago, so I am not familiar with how everything is done yet. But I appreciate your advice.

>>26243760
Get the fuck out

>>26243715
There are a swarm of kimberlites in the Mt Edziza park with small diamonds and guys in Alberta were panning diamonds north of the old coal camp at Nordegg Alberta 40 years ago. Diamonds pop up all over the place in gravels, but their almost all glacially deposited from who the fuck knows where. I ve found tiny diamonds in my sluice boxes before, but nothing gem quality. I think herb is on to something but he wont speak about it.

>>26243776
I know him yes, he used to have ground just up stream from me on the Fraser River, and also some territory in the Bridge river country too. I am glad to see hes doing ok after his surgery.

>>26243790
eBay? That’s where I’m getting it. I requested a quote for 23 g of Rhenium from a university supplier of rare elements and they wanted $800+ USD. The price is all over the place afaik.

>>26243804
>Just a total noob, also didn't consider that calling cryptocurrencies established in a pmg thread probably is regarded as heresy
/pmg/ has cultlike attitudes about certain things. I don't give a fuck though, I call shots as I see them. Bitcoin is retarded and not functional but I still firmly believe crypto isn't going away barring some retarded SHTF scenario, in which case gold won't help anyway because things will be that bad.

>>26243803
I’m aware of crater of diamonds in Arkansas. Where was this Colorado diamond mine?

>>26243848
Yeah eBay. I have no idea where a trustworthy place to get it cheap is

>day 20 of the year 2021
>silver still below 30$

>>26242815

>>26243342
>>26243462
There was a quote I saw the other day that explains the actions of modern society really well:
>The safer we become, the more dangerous and unacceptable any remaining risks appear to be.
Normies are scared because they live in sheltered worlds where their every need is catered for, so the only 'risks' they see exist that are in fact quite insignificant and somewhere far away become overblown in their minds and must be changed so they continue to feel safe. Hence, climate change kill us in 7 years, nuclear power too scary, terrorists on the other side of the planet, etc etc.
The only solution is to reintroduce real risks to our life, I've been working on taking my normie friends camping, abseiling, diving, it really does work wonders where nothing else does.

>>26243276
my grip with Crypto specifically BTC is remembering its inception, the slow rise, then every youtuber having a stake in BTC talking about it it being a couple hundred but it could be more, then it shooting up to 900, and every youtuber just going off on it can only go up shooting into the 1000s, then the normies were hit with FOMO when it jumped into the 4k-10k. Then the talk that this is the currency of the future changed to storage of wealth because of the lockdowns, election, the money printing, the spike in PMs, and the speculations of it will be 50-60k, then 100-500k, and now 1Mil. Every normie hearing that, investing everything they have into it, pulling out loans, barrowing money any means necessary. I remember when mining was all the rage and everyone talking about mining and an anon who owned a bunker in a mountain and uses his mining system as his central heating system. I don't know if he ever finished his remodel of the mountain bunker but some part of me feels he is the 1%er of bitcoin living his dream in solitude forgotten by time.

>>26235075

>fight

Please. This last month showed that the majority of us citizens are all cuck, bootlicking, normie, sheep bastards that are too scared to make waves. Those faggots failed the capitol protests because they failed to bring weapons and their cuck trump leader abandoned them and threw them under the bus. That was their ONE chance to end corruption in this country and they full on cucked like little sheep.

>but muh ANTIFA started the riots.

It doesn't matter. Not one fucking bit. Those citizens had THE RIGHT to storm the capitol and violently remove these traitors running our government.

You are spineless cowards, you're leader was a spineless coward. You are effeminate cuck men and this is why our nation is lost. You will never rise up to fight. You will accept every bit of it. You will except every time the government shits on you and takes your shit away. You will accept other countries eating your nation like vultures on a dying corpse, because you're a bunch of,,, BITCH ASS FAGGOTS who are TOO SCARED to cause strife. This is why niggers get what they want. Because they aren't afraid to loot and riot.

Fuck this nation of cuck men. Your faggot ass movement does not deserve a savage like me. I'll be looking at for myself and all of you conservatives can go fuck yourselves and suck mitch McConnell dick you bunch of "freedom loving" boot licking, caring about what people think, all talk and no section, fold at the first sign of trouble, weak fart, little pissin, normie, npc, sheep FAGGOTS.

The only people based enough to agree with me are PMGBaker, Floor Stacker, and like two other anons. That's the problems guys, just not enough SAVAGE Men to go around.

Imagine if the founding fathers were faggots like these other men and mainstream normies. "yeah but dumping tea in the harbor is terrorism! Let's just turn in our muskets. WE'RE SORRY.

>>26243804
If you’re in Europe then look for old silver coins locally. Europe has a DEEP history of minting PM coins. Disregard what I said about mercury dimes. You’ll be able to find stuff closer to home. Don’t buy from eBay and always check the spot price. Search “silver spot price” and buy silver closest to that price. You’ll have to pay a premium so the lower the premium the better the investment for obvious reasons. PM stacking is not complicated or difficult. Just make sure you keep that shit hides and don’t tell people you don’t trust about it. I don’t know if you’re still with the mother of your son, but unless she’s a solid lady keep that shit secret.

Also, sterling is .925 or 92.5% silver. It is not as valuable as .999 or 99.9% silver for obvious reasons. That being said, it is still intrinsically valuable.

“Unless you are willing to surrender your children and your country to galloping inflation, war and slavery, then the cause of gold demands your support. For if human liberty is to survive in America, we must win the battle to restore honest money. I can find no evidence to support a hope that our fiat paper money venture will fare better, ultimately, than such experiments in other lands. Because of our economic strength, the paper money disease here may take many years to run its course. But we can be approaching the critical stage. When that day arrives, our political rulers will probably find that foreign war and ruthless regimentation is the cunning alternative to domestic strife.”

-- Howard Buffett, 1948 speech to Congress

>>26243859
I agree, buying bitcoin is retarded. People are disagreeing on cryptos, to each their own. I think one should be really careful about which coin to one chooses to invest in. Most cryptocurrencies are useless anyway. There are so many good ideas and products, but they slap a coin on it and call it currency. However, with that said, there is trading potential for those with the time, patience and nerve for it.

>>26243570

The last fucking straw for me was when I tried to help them build a database of where beehives were so sprayers would know where to avoid.

All I got was crickets.

These people live in some psychodrama where all farmers are out wrecking their beehives for fun when the reality is that most of them know just how important they are. The just can't see your fucking hives from a sprayer or from an airplane because they look like a pile of old boxes.

>>26243276
>>26243176
https://twitter.com/Davincij15/status/1339572336304005123
>just buy it bro

>>26243818
>>26243845
Man, I’d love to come up to BC and buy you a beer sometime. I went to Vancouver island about 5 years ago and had a great time. Dan seems like a sweet guy. I didn’t know he had surgery.

>>26243875
>Where was this Colorado diamond mine?
Kelsey Lake Diamond mine, right on the border with Wyoming, 25 miles south of Laramie. The mine operated for only 4 years and only 2 out of the 3 volcanic pipes know to contain diamonds were ever mined, so a lot could still be in the ground. The mine has been fully reclaimed since 2006 though.

Should I buy gold silver stock or just hold

>>26243715
M8 check out the stories from Kimberly Arkansas, goddamn wild stuff.

>>26243883
I think that’s it as far as cheap (maybe trustworthy but we’ll see). I’m going to do a density test on mine (just bought 100g from some guy in British Columbia on eBay) and I’ll also try to melt it. I’ll report my findings here.

>>26244075
Never know mate if your ever out my neck of the woods go visit Barkerville and you may run into me!

>>26244003
American men don't even listen to Metal any more. Complete pussy ass faggots.

>>26244069
They can’t actually solve the problem otherwise what would they consume themselves with? I feel like conservatives or at least business-oriented folks are in an abusive relationship with pinkos and environmentalists. It’s like living with a girl who has borderline personality disorder and if you try to leave her she calls the cops and tells them where your stash is or accuses you of rape.

>>26243931
>I want volatile pm prices
y?
No amount of steady increase would approach it's true value in Fiat currency anyway, so it's good if the stuff stays dormant and affordable.

>>26244010
I am in Europe, but Norway is outside the EU-trading zone. We have our own agreements with the EU, so I will probably have to look for something inside the EEA to avoid high import tax and such. Also, nice general advice, thanks. I generally dont talk finance and investing with anyone I know. I have given some tips sure, but only if I am asked. I wouldn't want anyone hating me if it doesnt go their way.

Are all of the allocated physical places roughly equal? GoldMoney, Kinesis, BullionVault, OneGold. Is one better than the others? Is GoldPass also in this same category? Can/should I split my investment between gold and silver?

>>26244140
lmao I can just picture it, a pub full of miners and some weedy dude awkwardly walking around asking for the Pan Man

>>26244069
I don't think that would help that much desu. The main problem is that we are spraying at all. Soil depletion has caused plants to be extremely weak and require constant maintenance in the form of herbicides, pesticides, fungicides etc. because they don't have the trace minerals needed to grow healthy and strong. Not spraying the hives but spraying all the plants killing a lot that bees would normally utilize and making toxic the flowers of the crops that they still can utilize is the problem

>>26244003
What do you recommend? I agree with you btw. Maybe we’re too comfortable. I have a wife and kid. I don’t want to get perforated by or perforate cops that had nothing to do with the evil being perpetrated right and left.

>>26244337
At this point, if you're a cop, quit

>>26244101
Man, it sounds super bad ass to mine out an old volcanic pipe. Imagine the formations you would encounter. All that power and force frozen in time, waiting eons to be subsumed back into the mantle.

>>26244285
Lol, I weight 240 and I’m 6’1”. I would probably look more clean cut than most miners and mountain men I suppose. I’ll make sure to wear plaid.

>>26244399
But do you have an OnlyFans account like Herb? https://onlyfans.com/u67834977

>>26244353
I’m not a cop

>>26242976
You say that now but you'll be back in three months.

>>26244337

Lone wolf. Look out for yourself. Stock ammo. Make moves when you need to. Make them count. You are too valuable to sacrifice yourself for these conservative faggots. If they want to sack up and make a move then join them. Otherwise let them fend for themselves.

>>26244421
Lol, no. My wife would murder me if I started showing off my goods. Are you a sub? Are you Herb? Pan Man just mentioned you, said you find diamonds up in the brooks and creeks of BC.

>>26244454
the Conservative party is over, there is a new party coming. the question is whether or not the neocons will go away quietly.

>>26244368
kimberlite can be really odd too, its often very weak at the surface due to its chemistry reacting to things like water and atmospheric conditions. Its why kimberlites often have a round little lake on top of them, the weaker rock is eroded away leaving a depression. deeper down the kimberlite gets hard, and you can find all sorts of other interesting minerals. Looking for diamond pipes would be fun but its just not really viable out here, too much overburden and glaciation went on over much of BC, hiding anything from view without a stinger sensor.
>>26244421
for fucks sake of course hes got one, mans got an ego a mile wide.

>>26244454
The political parties in this country are absolute garbage. Both are focused on unchecked immigration (either for cheap labor or votes), destabilizing the Middle East to flood Europe with muslims, sending welfare to israel, or destroying leaders trying to leave the dollar. I love a lot of the US citizenry, but our government is as wicked as it comes. Our military, police, and politicians are evil.

>>26244454
I like my congressman, mostly. He didn’t badmouth the protesters. I fear that things will need to become worse before enough men rise up to destroy these vipers and scoundrels.

Anyway, I’m off to bed. I have work in the morning.

Goodnight from Texas, y’all.

>>26244423
I know I'm saying if anyone is a cop, you don't want to be a cop in this environment

>>26244454
>Take on counterparty risk in the form of mining stocks
>Go lone wolf, don't depend on other people. Prepare for SHTF

>>26244576
Almost if the agenda is the same no matter who's in control.

>>26244595
Cruz is alright. He's almost there. Still a cuck.

>>26244659 if miners play out they play out. I stack physical in the meantime. Miners are only one of the places I park cash. I have stocks. Crypto. Assets.

>>26244493
lmao I'm not Herb and I'm as straight as the Eyre Highway, I just read an article awhile ago that linked Herb's Facebook account and I saw the OF link there and thought it was funny as hell. There's certainly some great characters all around the world when gold is involved, same here in Aus

>>26244615
Conservatives would never have the balls to kill cops. They will cuck and back the blue while the blue takes their guns. Cops will kneel for blm faggots and then blm faggots would actually kill cops.

Daily remember : 90% junk silver is based silver, and every coin is a piece of history

>>26244803
I feel like the premiums I see on junk silver are the same or only marginally better than generic and even some popular 1 oz rounds. So I just buy shiny new rounds. Am I missing something here?

>>26243176
BTC is a wealth transfer from dumbshit Western hedgies to Chinese whales and miners
Monero, ETH, tokens in general are better than "Dogecoin but with a different name"
>>26244259
Generally fees, liquidity (in this context, how fast can you sell your holdings), and ability to take physical are all that really matter. The last is important even if you never intend to use it since its a protection against a vault with overallocated gold (several people "owning" the same piece of gold/silver)
Get gold first. That is, will be, and has been money forever. Silver is the more speculative for a lot of reasons. 1 oz Au: 100 oz Silver is a good starting point for a smaller portfolio that hopes Silver catchup will give you more appreciation. 1:40 might be considered more "traditional"

>>26244595
>I fear that things will need to become worse before enough men rise up to destroy these vipers and scoundrels.

Oh but don't worry, they will become worse very soon. The jews had total control over this country for a while, but never before they tightened their control of institutions to the point of having direct control over every branch of the government.
Do you know what does it mean? They are about to start the great communist purge. It will happen during Biden's mandate, it's 110% guaranteed.
The US are under occupation by a demonic foreign entity whose only goal is to exterminate the white race. They prepared this plan for centuries, if not millenias, and now is finally for them the time to accomplish their satanic prophecy.

If you are a white goy in the US (and in EU to a lesser extent), your life is in extreme jeopardy. You should start to plan an exit strategy if it's not already done.
Last time the kikes were this blatant about total control over a country was in bolchevik Russia, and the dozens of white christians exterminated were just them testing water for what is about to come now. The partition is played exactly at the identical, from the woke agenda to the welfare state, to the pro-feminist, the open borders and anti-white bullshit. Everything is the same all over again.

>>26244857
It depends. On eBay, you can find junk very near spot, but it's harder since the beginning of covid pandemic and the premium has become higher so since December i'm stacking new rounds and wait

What is the difference between GoldMoney, Kinesis, BullionVault, OneGold, and GoldPass? Is one the biggest if the group? Do certain ones offer both silver and gold?

>>26244942
dozens millions* of white christians

>>26244857
One advantage is that it functions as fractional silver whereas pure fractional silver usually carries really high premiums. This only really matters if silver gets used directly for day-to-day transactions though, which is pretty unlikely.

>>26244576
these past elections were pretty terrible political climate is at its worst for what I can ever remember

>>26244977
No need to repost. >>26244926
I guess I should add there is something to having respected names involved too. Again you want to avoid the possibility of overallocation.

>>26244857
I find it strange that people worry about spending a dollar or three over spot when we are talking about an asset that will at least double in value..

buy dero and stop the jews invasion

>>26244942
The question is how do we fight this

>>26245013
What do you mean by overallocation? Assume I am retarded. Should I avoid putting a huge sum in any of these individually? Which of those companies listed is the “gold standard” for the lack of a better term?

>>26244778
Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVNiMw3Li0U

Some interesting new videos today:

DC Preparing for More Than an Inauguration | Rob Kirby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lHChM47XLI

Rob Kientz: Inflation & Taxation Cometh As Investors Increase Physical Gold Delivery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCyjAZWHGSQ&ab_channel=GoldSilverPros

Peter Schiff: Trump Leaves America Further From Greatness Than Ever - Ep 646

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY0c7VZ0EOw

>>26244977

All the platforms which you mention offer both silver and gold. BullionVault is a bidding-platform which allows you to bid for your metals and get a good deal, GoldMoney always gives you a fixed price which I find is relatively higher than what you pay on BV. It also takes time (a day or two) for any transaction to process on GM, whereas it is instant on BV. GM has a more onerous sign-up process than BV and tends to be more finical to get money in and out of. GoldMoney offers palladium, BV does not. You can only register 1000 ounce silver bars or 400 ounce gold bars on BV, whereas you can register small kilo bars (both gold and silver) on GM. Both GoldMoney and Kinesis allow you to send metals to other people, BV does not. Kinesis is unique insofar as you do not pay vault fees there. All three platforms are allocated with delivery-mechanisms associated with them and are backed by trustworthy people. (Alasdair Macleod/Peter Schiff for GM, Paul Tustain and Neil McCoy Ward for BV and Andrew Maguire for Kinesis). OneGold is Sprott's platform and presumably similar.

>>26245156
Most of what you listed give a lot of different reasons why you wouldn't expect overallocation.
Overallocation is likely very real with big bullion bank ETFs like GLD and SLV. Imagine overallocation as 100 people holding slips that say they each own 1 gold bar ("paper gold") in the vault but in actuality there is only 10 bars of gold. This can happen as long as 11 people don't request physical gold at the same time. The ETF now has 100 people's money for 1/10 the gold. Lucrative but worthless in a shit hits the fan scenario which are "tail events" (black swans, etc.) that gold is for. 90 people at a minimum would be fucked out of "paper gold" if the holdings went under.
This is generally where the phrase "unless you hold it, you don't own it" comes from. But there is a convenience to remote storage since security can be much more safe elsewhere and it means that events that affect where you live don't impact your gold/silver. Also if your country's government collapses it might be scary to hold your gold or silver on your person as you try to leave (the advantage of foreign vaults). Things like Kinesis, GoldMoney, respected storage vaults bend over backwards to try to assure investors that their gold is there, and is never loaned or given to anyone else (without your permission). With frequent third party audits, the ability to give your paper for physical gold in even small quantities, etc.

>>26244948
Yeah covid fucked you prices across the board no doubt about that. I really hope prices normalize cause my raise this year sure as hell didn't beat inflation, let alone account for my increase in skill

>>26245008
That's a good point, is it really so unlikely? Wasn't a days labor the equivalent of a mercury dime at one point?

>>26245028
Its just efficiency, I want to maximize my potential gains of course

>>26245308

>Both GoldMoney and Kinesis allow you to send metals to other people

(By this I mean digitally; they allow you to send and receive allocated metals as you would use cryptocurrencies. They also both have PM-backed debit cards which allow you to buy a cup of coffee or make any small transaction with gold and silver.)

>>26245328
Don't worry fren. Keep calm and comfy on

What is your guys' price for Merc dimes? I found a place that sells for 18X face, so basically below spot. Comfy

>>26245491
2.42€ for me (frog anon), premium is way too high for me

>>26245527
Frog here too, you get sick deals on ebay lately, got myself several winning auctions for below spot silver. Feelgud not to have to pay the premium jew.

>>26245323
So Kinesis is essentially what the dollar used to be, gold backed currency, why hasn't it been more widely adopted? I don't see cryptocucks coming together and pushing it as much as shitcoins #18484069

>>26245576
What junk do you buy ? I don't find a lot of Hercules near spot since a few months

>>26244857
Numismatics is a good way to spend your non-moon mission time with gold & silver- you can make quite a bit more money with it than you can bullion. Last year because of my numismatics hobby I was able to buy far more gold and silver than I could off my wageslave job.

>>26245527
>>26245576
Can't you guys buy those WW1 era 1 & 2 franc coins en masse in your country?

>>26245591

>So Kinesis is essentially what the dollar used to be, gold backed currency, why hasn't it been more widely adopted?

Because the MSM doesn't advertise it. If people knew that we already have gold-backed crypto which is 1000x more efficient than the useless Bitcoin, and that Bitcoin is fundamentally broken anyway, the price of Bitcoin would crash and the COMEX would break. Peter Schiff has been talking about gold-backed crypto for years but nobody has paid any attention to him. The bankers have also created the "If you don't hold it, you don't own it" meme to neuter any interest in digital gold, and muddy the waters between unallocated trash like GLD and allocated, audited 1:1 bullion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q9aYYluRA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z46UvutJ8v4

>>26245603
50c, 1F, 2F, 5F semeuse. Please wait for tomorrow before betting on anything fren, i'm currently bidding on one big stack and i don't want to have to go into a bidding war with a fellow pmg fren. I leave you all the good deals for the incoming days.

>>26245703
Yes, more like the ones made from 1960 up to 1969. We also had our kennedy coins period back then.

>>26245591
Gold and silver have proven themselves as stores of wealth that outlive entire civilizations for thousands of years. The best time to have it is when your society is collapsing. And in such a scenario you can literally only trust yourself and maybe your own family. Thus there has always been a deep distrust of having a custodian watch over YOUR gold and silver. Thus, while gold and silver are proven stores of value, digitizing it is of less importance. You liquidate what you need when you need it. Become your own bank and use paper (for now) only as a temporary middleman.
Crypto deals with a lot of the trust issues by technological means but its difficult to say if any of them are real stores of value and not just fad speculative assets. BTC being the most egregious. Most people heading into crypto just want to turn fiat into more fiat. There is no actual interest or understanding of the reasons why you want a decentralized trustless anonymous exchange system. Only so far as you need to pump your shitcoin to dump on someone else.
Non-token based crypto, BTC chief among them, are worthless. They will never be used as actual currencies and have myriads of problems that other later crypto tries to solve in different ways.
Crypto is for the desperate. Gold and silver will always be the money of kings and nations.

>>26245328
The likelihood of a merc dime having large transactional value is different from it actually needing to be physically used. If people returned to a silver/gold bartering system we would very quickly latch onto something like the Perth Mint service mentioned earlier, or Kinesis, or whatever would spring up.

>>26245792
I will check then, thanks french anon

>>26245711
>The bankers have also created the "If you don't hold it, you don't own it" meme to neuter any interest in digital gold
No, that tagline is because bullion bank vaults/ETFs are overleveraged to the hilt with paper gold and paper silver. Gold and silver are the ONLY commodities where the derivatives determine the spot price instead of the other way around for everything else (platinum, lumber, orange juice, oil, etc.). And the paper was created after the gold backing was removed from the USD to prevent price discovery.
There is very little desire or need to use your gold or silver to purchase a cup of coffee. And there are regulations in place which complicate such a possibility unnecessarily. The only reason it is discussed with BTC is to help POOMP their ponzis. Real regulation would terrify BTC HODLers. Even a glancing blow to XRP drove it into the dirt.

>>26245308
>>26245323
Thank you all so much for the replies. I wasn’t sure with physical gold as well how I can liquidate it. Will companies like these make it easier to access tor cash? Several of these companies have been addressed. Are there any that should be avoided between GoldMoney, Kinesis, BullionVault, OneGold, and GoldPass?

>>26245323

I will ad the example of Fisguard's battle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard#Legacy

>>26244942
The Tribe runs America, the people who weren't bothered by Kushner manhandling Trump suddenly take issue with Bidens cabinet being kikes?

>>26245328
Size and purity varied, check the groschen/kreuzers of the 18th & 19th century. That being said I believe a hemiobol is roughly the sameish size/weight. Once we got to the end of the 19th century there was a glut of silver so things changed a bit. But now we have a scarcity situation looming. So it could be more valuable.

>>26245918

>No, that tagline is because bullion bank vaults/ETFs are overleveraged to the hilt with paper gold and paper silver.

Yes, and as I have said, the meme fails to distinguish between scams like GLD and COMEX derivatives, or Goldman's new acquisition of the Perth Mint ETF, and allocated bullion. People who believe the meme and who don't want to meddle with coins and premiums, or who can't see that physical gold can ever be money in the modern age, are scared away from investing in gold and go to the thin-air cryptos instead.

>There is very little desire or need to use your gold or silver to purchase a cup of coffee.

This is not so. Gold is not simply a store of value but money. To serve as money in the modern age, it needs to be quite as efficient as any fiat currency or thin-air crypto, i. e. you need to be able to send it across borders, instantly, and divide it up into any fractional quantity that you want. As Peter Schiff says, modern technology makes gold even more efficient as money than ever before.

>And there are regulations in place which complicate such a possibility unnecessarily.

No, there are not. You can already buy a cup of coffee with gold. Both Kinesis and GoldMoney offer a debit card which does it, and any other company could do the same thing. There used to be a video on Youtube where Peter Schiff talked about this to Joe Rogan, but it has since been removed.

>>26245943

Yes, one advantage of using allocated platforms is that you can easily liquidate. I can sell my gold or silver on BV instantly with the click of a mouse, and transfer the money to my bank account in only a few hours. BV is the platform I recommend for liquidity, GM tends to be more clunky and slow. Sprott's PHYS and PSLV on the stock market are also highly liquid, for obvious reasons.

Morning all been watching this dudes gold/silver videos got me pretty bullish on it so im gonna pick my first bits up on payday thinking 500 quid gold and 500 quid silver, is it best to split 50/50 you think?

this is the dude i been watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU

>>26246139

Yes, 50:50 sounds all right. Make sure that you buy Britannias or Sovereigns though, because they are CGT-free in the U. K. (I am presuming that you are British).

>>26246017
>the people who weren't bothered by Kushner manhandling Trump suddenly take issue with Bidens cabinet being kikes?
Who said this? Only stupid Qoomers were deluded enough to ignore how absolutely jewed was his cabinet. Don't include me in, i've always denounced how much of a farce was drumpf.

Funny how all the JIDF shills are now automatically assuming you were a trumptard if you critic the biden's kikery. Really make you think..

>>26246174
>or Sovereigns though, because they are CGT-free in the U.

Nice one bud I am, i'll write that down now

>>26246084
>you need to be able to send it across borders, instantly, and divide it up into any fractional quantity that you want.
But it isn't trustless. It still assumes mutual trust of a 3rd party who owns and manages the vault. This is a fundamental limitation that already pokes at the BS detectors of gold/silver holders. This is something that Schiff refuses to understand. Gold as money is going to require the physical metal exchanging hands between buyer and seller of a good. And that is what (most) gold/silver buyers get it for. Financial stability, security, and in truly apocalyptic scenarios as time tested money.
The only reason to bring up digital transfers is simply because you are trying to sell to the crypto crowd. It would not actually "drive up" demand for gold. And the crypto crowd simply does not generally view their crypto as anything but "buy with fiat, sell for more fiat later investment". Asia is not stockpiling crypto while it dumps its US treasuries. Central bank coins are going to suck all the oxygen in the room from retail coins.

>>26246084
Is BullionVault the most popular of its type?

>>26246355
It's almost as if trust is the most vital component of any human society since the dawn of time.
Good luck building anything in your trustless paradigm.
Truly another kike trick so people don't believe each others anymore. Wanna know my secret to build trust? I only deal with white people.

well i am off to bed, talk to you all later!

>>26246505
gn panny

>>26246355

>But it isn't trustless. It still assumes mutual trust of a 3rd party who owns and manages the vault.

You don't need to use one vault, one country, or one company to store your gold. And any country or company which betrayed its customers would be shunned from that point onward.

>This is something that Schiff refuses to understand.

Not simply Schiff but everybody credible in the PM community understands the concept of allocation. Mike Maloney uses vaults, Andrew Maguire advocates for Kinesis, Alasdair Macleod for GoldMoney, Neil McCoy Ward for BullionVault, Sprott and Rick Rule for OneGold and PHYS and PSLV, even maneco64 has talked about Glint. It is only people who don't really understand these things who attack allocated bullion.

>Financial stability, security, and in truly apocalyptic scenarios as time tested money.

I buy gold in preparation for the inevitable financial reset, not for the apocalypse. The idea that gold is simply a hedge for fearful people against an apocalypse is a mainstream smear--Warren Buffet likes to tell it. The examples of John Law in France, the Weimar hyperinflation, and the Great Depression, show that the world doesn't look like the Mojave Wasteland simply because the financial system falls apart. If you held gold in an overseas Swiss vault in any of the aforementioned three scenarios, it was completely safe.

>The only reason to bring up digital transfers is simply because you are trying to sell to the crypto crowd.

No; it is because gold-backed crypto is truly exciting to me. The fact that you can exist outside the banking system (yes, you don't even need a bank account to sign up with Kinesis) and send any fraction of gold or silver 24/7 anywhere in the world at any time for a mere 0.22% fee. I love gold-backed crypto for the same reasons that I loved Bitcoin Cash before I lost faith in crypto with no intrinsic value. Kinesis does everything which BCH does.

>>26246394

GM and BV are equivalently popular I think.

>>26246285
>Who said this?
plenty of Qtards are now calling out Jidden for being a kike puppet while feigning ignorance of how kiked Humpty Drumpty was.
>Funny how all the JIDF shills are now automatically assuming you were a trumptard if you critic the biden's kikery.
I'm not assuming anything, but if granny Joe's adherence to the Jude is a surprise to anyone they must have been living under a rock.

America is owned by the Tribes.

>>26246441
The "trustless, decentralized" networks that crypto supposedly runs on are only as true to those adjectives as are the coders developing the software and the node operators. All of those can be bought out by big money, which is what has happened. Tether printing, China mining companies, etc. have all undermined and sold out crypto. Technology obscures the view of the character of the people you are dealing with on the other side, that's why I think hard money that you actually have to use in person is the healthiest for a society.

>>26246648

>>26246592
So GoldMoney and BullionVault are the top two? Is the BullionVault bidding difficult? I just want to be able to invest my cash split for silver and gold and forget about it.

>>26246592
Oh I forgot. Will GoldMoney and BullionVault investments get decimated with the dollar, stockmarket, inflation, etc? My investment can be cashed out into other currencies or into metal, right?

>>26246831
don't trust them

>>26246592
>And any country or company which betrayed its customers would be shunned from that point onward.
Just needs to do it once to make out like they were LARPing as a bullion bank.
>It is only people who don't really understand these things who attack allocated bullion.
They are selling products. There are myriad reasons for storing your metals in a vault. But that is done with the presumption that you do your homework and agree to a contract with the vault owner. That is different from someone else accepting that if I give them a digital token corresponding to gold in my vault. Both sides would need to trust the intermediary vault to not be "in on it".
>I buy gold in preparation for the inevitable financial reset, not for the apocalypse.
The apocalypse scenario is a bonus. Anyone who buys gold or silver is buying it for individual financial security and stability. That is why its always a haven against a collapsing fiat currency.
>No; it is because gold-backed crypto is truly exciting to me.
You can be excited about whatever you want
> The fact that you can exist outside the banking system (yes, you don't even need a bank account to sign up with Kinesis)
You move the third party risk from central banks to private entities when the reason for interest in metals is because of a fundamental distrust of third parties in the exchange of goods.
Kinesis, BV, et. al. don't have an "advertising" problem. They are novelties with a catch-22 where the audience that would most benefit from it, has the least interest in its technology.
That said, token based cryptos are still miles better than ponzicryptos and the biggest of them all, BTC.

>>26246793

PSLV and PHYS are the easiest things to buy, because it's no different from purchasing a stock. In GM, you don't do any bidding; you simply put the order in and they do everything for you. But you do pay more there, and it's more inefficient (takes sometimes a few days to get anything done) and the sign-up process can be a nightmare. It isn't hard to learn how to use the BV bidding board, you can see it live here:

https://www.bullionvault.com/order-board.do

See my picture. If you don't want to put a bid in you can simply hit the bid or hit the ask. All I have to do is click on "Buy Zurich gold" to buy up to 16 ounces for £1,358. Then I instantly get the gold. I can also sell 3.54 ounces instantly for £1,354.

>>26246831

No, the gold is completely independent of what happens to fiat currencies. It will always be possible to liquidate. e. g. GM already offers a multitude of currencies to cash out into, and they could add any new currency if necessary.

>>26246793
>>26246945

By the way, this video explains everything about BV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcm8fTfKmI

>>26246883

>You move the third party risk from central banks to private entities when the reason for interest in metals is because of a fundamental distrust of third parties in the exchange of goods.

The chief reason to be interested in metals is not from a fear of third parties, but because we live in a financial ponzi scheme which is on the verge of collapse. Fiat currencies are rapidly approaching the day of hyperinflation, and G-SIB equities are trading at less than 30% of book value, and on the verge of a banking crisis. Private vaults have no such problems.

>They are novelties with a catch-22 where the audience that would most benefit from it, has the least interest in its technology.

The only reason why there is not an audience for this technology is because nobody talks about it. If the MSM was pushing gold-backed cryptocurrency as a hedge against inflation in the same way that they do the useless BTC, then everybody would be flooding into it. As it stands, it doesn't even get a mention. The MSM outlets lie about BTC and pretend as if it is some kind of superior form of gold, when it is really completely useless, and they don't so much acknowledge that we already do have digital gold which is infinitely more efficient than BTC. It's all part of the scam of keeping the public ignorant of the power of precious metals.

>boomer shiny rocks

Lmao

>>26247147
DNC shill get out

>>26246945
16 ounces for £1,358 each ounce right?

>>26246945
Is GM pretty close to BV prices to make the convenience worth it or is the price outlandish?

>>26247244

Yes, and you can buy as little as a gram of gold for that £1,358.60 per ounce rate. Then you see that, if somebody bought all 16.11 ounces at that price, the next bullion on offer is 30 ounces at a rate of £1358.91/oz, etc. The price is different for different currencies and in different vaults because of supply and demand. Most of the New York gold has been cleared out, so it costs £1,576 to buy an ounce there, which would be a stupid price to pay. It's an example though of what buying gold and silver will look like when the COMEX defaults and we go back to simple supply-and-demand fundamentals.

>>26247276

GM isn't bad, but I noticed that it was somewhat more expensive and much more slow than BV to buy or sell. I already own my metals there so can't make a comparison right now, simply remember that fact. I use GM because it allows me to register kilo bars, so I have a segregated hedge even if the allocation principle somehow fails.

>>26247414
For me it would be a one time huge purchase and just sitting on it. If GM can make that easy and do everything I may go with them. As for OneGold, Kinesis, and GoldPass, are they in the same league as GoldMoney and BullionVault?

>>26247635

I'm not personally familiar with OneGold, but I trust Eric Sprott and presume that it functions similarly with GM. Have not heard of GoldPass before. Kinesis is unique in so far as it allows you to send and receive gold and silver and does not charge vault fees, but as you have no interest in that sort of thing you might simply want to go with GM or BV. Perhaps try signing up with both GM and BV and seeing which website gives you an account first. The main problem with GM is that the sign-up process can be such an utter nightmare.

>Fractional reserve banking bad, don't trust banks
>Private vaults good, they regularly audit their holdings by trusted sources that they definitely don't pay

>>26247739

False comparison. Yes, we don't use banks because GLD, the COMEX etc. are the equivalent of fractional-reserve banking. They don't pretend to be allocated, they are not allocated in law, they are demonstrable scams. Allocation isn't fractional-reserve banking, by definition. An allocated service only allows you to purchase bullion at a 1:1 ratio with reserves, and provides a complete bar list which is audited daily. If you register a bar you can go and see it in person and it will have the exactly correct brand and serial number on it.

>>26247815
who audits them? how often do people check on their bars? Do you have to schedule an appointment to check? How is it a false comparison if the same scheme can still be pulled off? You really think it's SO much of a stretch to think that the auditor who audits daily could be in cahoots with the allocated bank? If people don't regularly see their reserved bars in person that's the same problem as most people not withdrawing their deposit at a fractional reserve bank. It would be slightly harder to pull off but an private allocated service can still get away with the same scheme that a private fractional reserve bank can.

>mfw i just noticed my CC got hacked since a month and some fucker withdrew 20x 30€ using it
Fucking contactless cards. These kikes bankers always pretend to want to secure as much as possible your shit then they invent cards with 0 security you simply have to wave around like a chimp for it to pay everything and anything.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>26247948

>how often do people check on their bars?

Don't know, but it doesn't really matter. After 15 years, not a single person who uses any of these services has ever reported registering a bar and finding it missing, or seeing an incorrect brand or serial number on it. And you can only buy as many allocated ounces as there are ounces of metal in the bars on the bar-list. That's why e. g. as I said about BV, it now costs £1,576 to buy an ounce of New-York gold, because most of the gold in NY has been cleared out. >>26247414 Same thing is true of Singapore silver, which is running out and now costs $27.50 an ounce, vs Zurich silver at $25.50 an ounce. Supply and demand.

As for the audits, you're talking about multiple auditing companies working for multiple companies in multiple countries in relation to multiple vaults, and nothing has ever gone wrong. As I have said, GLD, the COMEX etc. provide no bar lists and have no reputable audits, nor do they pretend to be allocated, so there is no comparison there.

There's not a single case of a financial collapse in history where a reputable private vault like Brinks or Loomis, operating in Switzerland, cheated its depositors and the bars were found missing. There is no reason to think that it will happen this time.

does anyone horde aluminium? I already hang on to any copper pennies I get but I've started noticing the amount of aluminium that goes into my kitchen waste, tinfoil, beer cans, food trays etc. Is it worth just washing hanging onto it all or am I just losing the plot?

>>26247948
>>26248200
>>26247948

To give specifics. The vaults which GoldMoney uses are:

Brinks, G4S, Loomis, Rhenus and Malca-Amit

I invite you to find a single case in history where somebody turned up to a vault operated by any of these companies to inspect a registered bar and found it to be missing. The history of Brinks goes back e. g. to 1859.

>>26248444
how versed are you in glint? I like how you would be able to take delivery of your gold from them and can buy fractional. The idea being I save Fiat into the account until I can buy a full oz of physical and if I ever have to flee the country I can withdraw the gold in switzerland

>>26248677
This is just wrong

>>26248722

I don't know much about Glint, only that maneco64 has recommended it. But as you describe it, it sounds just like GoldMoney or Kinesis etc. You can do the same thing there, keep saving fractions of gold or silver via allocation until you get to a full ounce or kilo bar or whatever the case may be, then register it and take delivery of it. So it sounds sound to me.

>The idea being I save Fiat into the account until I can buy a full oz of physical and if I ever have to flee the country I can withdraw the gold in switzerland

Yes, this is why I use stuff like GM and BV (as well as buy mining stocks). The U. K. government confiscated gold in 1966, and I don't want to be trapped here if the authorities start persecuting gold-investors again. It would be hard to get physical coins out of the country. My worst nightmare would be handing over my gold to this totalitarian government so that it can continue to oppress my people.

>>26248846
do GM offer a bank card like glint? I would love if someone offered a cashback card or even an interest account. I'm curious who has the best fees for spending/ buying/ selling/ and taking delivery.

I'm UK too, most of my gold is sovereigns I have bought from pawnshops with cash so there is no trail but if I ever had to leave I would bury them and hopefully come back and collect. It's nice to know I could have a backup offshore. I'm curious about the tax implications of this though

>>26248382
you could crudely compact it, keep it in a special bin, and melt it down into a bar later

This general appears fairly canadian-focused, are there any aus lads in here? Thinking I'm gonna move to perth to get mining work. Much more going on there than in the UK. Whats it like stacking there?

>>26248200
15 years is about how long bitcoin has been around.
>There is no reason to think that it will happen this time.
There's always a first. If you don't hold it you don't own it

Man the gold market in this country (Vietnam) is so fucked
Like way higher than international prices and so many regulations with importing/exporting gold

Might just stick with silver and ship the gold I buy back to my parents in Canada since the government here doesn’t care about silver imports.

>>26249167

GM offers a debit card which allows you to spend your gold, yes, there used to be a video where Peter Schiff talked about it, but it was removed from Youtube along with all the other Joe Rogan videos. Peter Schiff owns one which is made of solid gold. Kinesis has a similar card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z46UvutJ8v4

>>26249167

The only trouble with owning gold in BV etc. is that you miss the advantage of having CGT-free metal in the form of Sovereigns and Britannias. That's one reason why most of my wealth is in mining stocks, because I want to be able to flee the country, but I feel sore about having to pay CGT on gold when strictly speaking I don't have to do so, so I at least want to enjoy the leveraged gains in the miners as compensation.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/steel-prices-are-exploding-record-highs

>>26248677
never post this shit again.

>>26249218

>There's always a first. If you don't hold it you don't own it

In 1933 (US), 1939 (Australia) or 1966 (UK), if you _did_ hold it, you didn't own it. You only owned it if it was kept overseas and you _didn't_ hold it. The U. S. government even went to all the dealers and miners to track down everybody who bought gold, according to Katusa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzj6YbgAa0Y 4,847 people had to submit themselves to the Bank of England's scrutiny in 1967. (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1967/jun/26/gold-coins#S5CV0749P0_19670626_CWA_185)) So as far as fud goes, there's more justification for fear in the case of physical coins, whereas somebody holding gold in a private Swiss vault has never been in the wrong place historically. People should hedge; some gold held in hand, some in vaults, and some in mining stocks.

>>26249261
to my knowledge the capital gains tax allowance in 2020-21 is £12,300. So even if gold doubled in value today I could sell nearly 10 ounces before any CGT would have to be paid. If you make profits over this 12,3 You pay CGT on all profits though.

What I was more thinking about was if gold did double in value overnight and I took delivery of that same 10 ounces, is that a taxable event?

>>26243412
Goldmoney is the most established but I'd tell someone to use bullionvault or kinesis because the vaulting company isnt the only market maker. Last fall onegold just decided to raise their prices. Kinesis and onegold don't actually sell you the gold, you buy it from a market maker on their site or bring it into the system through their conduit.

>>26247705
OneGold is a joint venture of Sprott and APMEX.

>>26249902

Yes, you are right about CGT. My target on gold is at least somewhere between 8x and 16x in terms of purchasing power (to return to a Dow:Gold ratio of 1:1), and who knows how high it could go in terms of fiat. So the end-result, even for ten coins might add up considerably. I'm planning for much more than a double. Even 10 ounces of gold might be worth £225,000 or more in the future.

>What I was more thinking about was if gold did double in value overnight and I took delivery of that same 10 ounces, is that a taxable event?

Not sure about the answer to this question, I imagine only a financial adviser would know for certain. But I think that you have to pay an import tax when you import silver, and that's VAT. I think that you only pay CGT when you sell and realise your gains.

>>26242908
>>26242925
I don’t necessarily disagree but I do want to offer a contradicting point of view. If you have limited capital, as most of us do, it may actually make more sense to buy mining stocks first, as your money benefits from the exposure to leverage, and then take profits along the way to be able to purchase more physical than you would have been able to had you just simply bought with your money initially. Or, if you decide that you can wait a couple years, many mining companies may start to issue shareholder dividends, and some could provide the option for shareholders to receive their dividend in physical silver. This way, you could passively collect your physical monthly, with no or very low premium, instead of driving to LCS’s or purchasing bullion online. Your tolerance for risk and your philosophy on how you want to play this bull market may vary. But I did want to present these other two options, as it seems most other posters just say to buy physical first.

>>26245591
It was the biggest ICO raise when it was announced iirc

>>26248677
That's cryptosexist because it means the former King(Gold) is better than the Queen(Silver).

>>26250068
>10 ounces of gold might be worth £225,000
Here's hoping

I was buying all my silver from Estonia prior to brexit. I will just be concentrating on 2nd hand silver now. Fuck UK premiums and tax on new bullion.

>>26249961
>Last fall onegold just decided to raise their prices.
I don't know if whose fault that was (Sprott's, APMEX's, both) but I'm still seriously pissed off that my shares in the Gold Trust Fund (was GTU) were converted some years ago to the Sprott Physical Gold Trust (PHYS) after a hostile takeover. The fees on the Sprott fund are higher than the fees of the GTU. Rick Rule was an employee of Sprott at the time (I believe he still is) and the entire takeover just reeked of dissembling and moneygrubbing. I still have a lot of shares of PHYS because I haven't found a comparable alternative (I hold my shares in an IRA) but I'd love to move my money elsewhere to deny Sprott anything.

>>26242815
Waifus in uniform to protect my stacks

>>26250093

>Or, if you decide that you can wait a couple years, many mining companies may start to issue shareholder dividends, and some could provide the option for shareholders to receive their dividend in physical silver.

In early 2020, Bayhorse Silver actually afforded this opportunity. They issued a PP at $0.05 per share which involved a "silver option" (i. e. physical silver dividend).

-

https://ceo.ca/@newsfile/bayhorse-amends-terms-of-7500000-unit-non-brokered

"The Silver Option may only be exercised after the Company successfully mines and processes silver from the Bayhorse property prior to the maturity date of the Warrants, provided that the Company, at its sole discretion, delivers written notice to each Warrant holder that they shall have the right to receive payment in kind by delivery of physical ounces of silver; and
The exercise of the Silver Option is subject to a minimum of five thousand (5,000) Warrants (25 ounces of silver)

In addition to any other exemption available to the Company, participation in the non-brokered financing is also open to all existing shareholders, even if not accredited investors, under the "existing shareholder" exemption of National Instrument 45-106 as promulgated in Multilateral CSA notice 45-313 in participating jurisdictions."

-

Hope that similar opportunities are afforded as this bull market progresses. Resolute Mining issued physical gold dividends in 2016, so they showed that it can be done in the modern age.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/australias-resolute-mining-to-pay-its-dividends-in-gold.html

defenders of the stack

blocks ur path

>>26250523
mucho basado

>>26250523
This is what I want. I want my mining companies to provide me with supplemental physical each month in the form of dividends. I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that, at least, 1 or 2 of them in my portfolio would start doing this after they’ve gone up multiple times in this bull market. It seems like the best of both worlds (leverage vs hoarding physical) to me.

>>26250523
And based on your passionate advocacy for BHS, I did buy some more yesterday. At a 13m market cap, for all that BHS has going for it, I just can’t see how they are not a hugely undervalued investment opportunity, even withstanding the constant FUD over management.

>>26249961
GoldMoney sounds the easiest to use and get invested. It sounds like GM and BV are the big boys and everything else is an imitator.

>>26250773

It's going to make me look horrible if I am wrong about BHS, because I have passionately advocated for it for the past 6 months, but if I am right then I am going to be vindicated about all three microcap stocks which I said should be core positions 6 months ago (Vangold, Klondike, BHS). A large part of my portfolio is now BHS, I have bet an enormous amount on this stock. All that I need Graeme O'Neil to do is sell silver and prove that he's not a con man. If he can simply do that, then BHS is the value-investment of the century. Capacity for 1.2 million ounces per annum at a $13 million mcap means that it's at 1/3rd cash flow, so if it goes to 30x cash flow (like Starcore before, another one-mine producer) that's 90x potential simply at current silver prices. AISC is only $10, so at $50 silver imagine 1.2 million ounces x 40 = $48 million in cash flow, x 30 = 1 billion, 400 million, which is about 150x its current mcap. Then do the numbers for $100, $200 etc. silver and you get 1000x of times multiples.

>>26250636

Paying dividends in metal is the most rational decision, because for the company to sell its metal for rapidly-debasing fiat and then hoard the cash makes no sense, so far as adding to shareholder value is concerned. That's why I always like it when I know that a CEO is a silver bull and not simply a bureaucrat.

>>26250952
In addition to reading every post you’ve ever made about BHS, I’ve looked at their website and Twitter updates many times myself, as well as read the CEO.CA chat all the way back to 2017, and still read it at least bi-weekly. I’ve seen people who I believe are knowledgeable about investing in the mining industry, such as Bob Moriarty and oldbanker, advocate for it. If BHS fails, it will be one of the most peculiar mining industry failures in recent history. Everything is in place for success. I share your view based on my own research that BHS is a hidden gem that is simply subject to a suffocating amount of FUD.

>>26250952
As to your other point about mining stock dividends being paid in physical, ideally I would like everyone of my miners to at least offer this option. This way I could choose which ones I would like to do dividend reinvestments in, and which I would like to send me monthly physical.

>>26250952
I don't think its a bad thing if BHS fail to accomplish what they've promised. I mean, we're all adult, did our DD and accepted the risks involved. I dont touch BHS because of ethics with debt-heavy company but I have 25-30% of my portfolio in Irving, so everyone has their pet favorite stock and bet on it.

>baghorse silver
>hidden gem
>undervalued
>silver "producer"
>Management says BHS is going to da moon
>$500 silver
>COMEX fail

>>26248677
Blow up the planet

>>26251176

I knew that Moriarty advocated for BHS in September 2018, after they produced the resource report,

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty092518.html

but I never knew until yesterday that he also wrote an article about it in February of that year. I stumbled upon it when I was messing about in the chat.

https://www.streetwisereports.com/article/2018/02/16/bayhorse-silver-produces-silver.html

He makes all the same points that I do now, about the production-capacity and relative cheapness of the stock:

"I love it. He's guessing they will produce about 640,000 to 1,280,000 ounces of silver this year. I'm so sick of guys presenting me formal 43-101-blessed numbers and promptly blowing up their companies. Life is a risk. Most people will end up dying in bed, so if you do the math, it seems to make sense to avoid going to bed so you can reduce the risk of dying. What's wrong with guessing what your production will be? If Graeme is wrong we can always hang him from the nearest yardarm.

I like the company a lot. I happen to believe that silver is cheap compared to about everything else. When the Everything Bubble bursts—and it looks as if it has started—silver might be valuable to have around. I don't own Bayhorse but I am biased a lot. They are an advertiser. They do an excellent job of telling their story and I believe will be very successful. With a $10 million USD market cap, I think they are cheap."

The fact that B. M. is still saying that he loves BHS is encouraging to me. It seems that production _has_ been making progress. For example, they relocated the flotation circuit in August, as promised. They claim to be making upgrades now for 10 tpd of concentrate (which = 150 tpd of ore, their exact production target; somebody whom I was debating with yesterday completely misunderstood this as meaning 10 tpd of ore). If that off-take purchase agreement turns out to be real and impressive then it is going to send the stock to the moon.

>>26250815
Yes, but Kinesis probably still has a bigger warchest than both combined for continued development.

>>26250952
lets roll

>>26251280

Thanks for your kind words. I did always try to make clear that these silver juniors are inherently full of risk, and that if silver doesn't go up then they are pretty much guaranteed to go to zero. Always said that DV, IPT, SVE were the only relatively "safe" "core" call options on silver; BHS, KS, VGLD were always simply the most promising microcaps. Also said that most people should simply stick to SILJ. But even so, I can't pass by BHS because it seems like the opportunity of a lifetime within the opportunity of a lifetime.

>>26242815
So what’s the consensus on this coin? Is it cringe prairie-nigger worship and white guilt tripping, or is it a based symbol of conquering the Indians and using their sacred symbols as our own?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T11&p0=64&font=cursive
Power goes out in 4 hours

>>26252013
Until biden inauguration I mean

>>26252064
>>26252013
I would love for it to be true but america has already shown to be cucks. Nothing will happen.

>>26252085
Two
More
Weeks

>>26252085
Here's one with a name: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T11&p0=64&msg=Biden+Inauguration&font=cursive
I don't think anything has changed. Our government hasn't been ours for a long time, but the media has been saying there is threats of extremism at the inauguration. Americans are cucks though. They are still going to ensure something will happen though. There is going to be at least a show . I think they'll shut off the power and false flag blame it on right wing extremists which will allow vaccine camps to be implemented. You'd have to be even more of a cuck than not doing anything all these years to walk into a trap at the capital to fight for Trump who betrayed real Americans

>>26252183
what happen in 2 weeks ? First its wait for november ! Then trust the plan, 6 jan ! Now 20 Jan ! What's next ? If nothing is done today, usa is cucked beyond repair. Don't talk about a third party or garbage like that.

>>26252085
unfortunately this.
1776: 2.0 revolution is way overdue

What’s the best allocated bullion vault company?
I want one that, when I buy the precious metals, they give me a very concrete certificate of ownership of the metals.

>>26252208
Lol I’m making fun of Qoomers

>>26242864
>>26242889
Based and Onee-san pilled

>>26251730
I feel the same about Irving Resources. I think there is a tremendous geological potential on their properties. The stock has gone down for months on end, presumably because lockdowns in Japan have continued to delay drilling. There is the opportunity cost issue of holding Irving, which the company’s operations have stagnated and will continue to stagnate for the foreseeable future, but the enormous potential offsets that for me. I envision large quantities of gold and silver on their properties and the declining share price just makes it more and more attractive as a long-term hold. So I also consider Irving a core position. Your thoughts?

>>26243984
Hence why they killed the boy scouts. People get to comfy, and start worrying about insignificant things because there is nothing else to worry about. It's like that one quote passed around, the one about "good times makes weak men, hard times make strong men". Something like that.

>>26252279

READ MY LIPS
This comex backwardation is going to reallyyyyy fuck some shit up in NY

YAY CHEAPIES

>>26252237

It never ceases to astonish me to see the stock of price of Irving keep going down the way it has, but I am continuing to hold. I own as much Irving as Silver Spruce (something over 5% of portfolio). I am enamoured with the story of the company and willing to wait. The fact that they don't have drills going does not alter the value of the properties. There are no other junior gold mining companies in Japan, and they have some of the best and most historic properties in Japanese history. "Over half a dozen high grade gold and silver deposits covering past producing mines going back as long as 400 years ago." e. g. "the famous Yamagano gold mine from the Shimadzu family. This mine was in production for over 360 years and was a primary source of the wealth of one of the most important families in Japan. Located on the island of Kyushu the mine is about 11 km from the world famous high-grade Hishikari gold mine."

Ah, the old illegitimate president slam down, when (((they))) absolutely, positively can't have PMs moon the day a corrupt pedo socialist with dementia gets sworn in

>>26250574
>Insta-raped
Although I prefer Kumin.

>>26252391
Too bad its only meme spot price that goes down, you will still be paying $29/oz for eagles

>>26251702
bro, what's your cost basis, $6k USD?

>>26250815
>>26251538

I actually wish that I had stayed invested in GoldMoney the stock. Price has been mooning lately and they also pay a dividend. I sold it a number of months ago because I got bored with it. I am going to stick my silver juniors rather than buy in after it has already gone up, but I was pretty interested with this NR which they released lately.

https://ceo.ca/@businesswire/totenpass-the-new-paradigm-in-the-permanent-storage

They are developing "a permanent digital storage drive constructed from solid gold that requires no energy and has no movable parts. Digital data is written onto the drive by way of a proprietary light-diffraction process which imprints images, documents, and other files that can be stored as either human readable without the aid of computers or machine-readable with the employ of a smartphone."

They are "etching information into gold with a very fine laser beam. It is essentially a printer taking advantage of the robustness of gold."

I find this interesting because it proves that we are always finding new uses for gold. The incorruptible nature of gold obviously makes it perfect for storage.

>>26243251
>https://files.catbox.moe/v02au2.pdf
Thanks fren! You don't happen to have Don Durret's mining stonks book do you?

>>26242986
where can i buy gemstones like this for home decoration?

>>26252391
Under the Obama admin silver was hammered consistently and zero efforts were done to stop the manipulation. I think we'll be returning to these days. The swamp has total control of everything forever from now on. I'm totally black pilled, there is zero hope of justice ever prevailing.

whats the /pmg/ consensus on wearing a 1oz 24k gold bracelet? you could have 1oz of gold on your person at all times without raising suspicion

>>26252924
Oh Lord, please stop! I can only get so erect! Are you telling me that we're getting cheapies???

TL;DR
Silvercoomerstacker.jpg

>>26252924

Silver continued under the $20 suppression-range under Trump also, and only broke free after the $5 trillion in Q. E. of 2020. Gold continued to be completely suppressed until late 2018, when "not Q. E." started in response to the stock market crash, triggered by yields hitting 3%. Fundamentals will ensure that gold and silver continue to go higher. They can keep a lid on them for a time, but they will break free. They will either be forced to do more Q. E. and or so-called "stimulus" soon, or one of any number of black swans (COMEX default, banking crisis, dumping of dollar and issuance of gold-backed currencies) will take place at any time. They are panicking, there is no chance that they would have imposed this disgusting hoax and totalitarian dystopia on us if they weren't. They know that the end is near. No coincidence that this all followed shortly after the late 2019 repo crisis.

>>26250952
you're gonna get burned and it will be glorious my man!

Is CLF a buy?

i've got a silver necklace that says "925 italy" on it - is that .925 pure?

>>26252698
No I do not sadly

>>26253133
The average person can clearly see it’s a hoax by looking for an association between onset of mask mandates and severity of lockdown restrictions vs. covid case numbers. Cases continue to climb, and sometimes even climb faster, when masks/distancing initiatives are started or strengthened. Don’t mean to derail the conversation, but the more I think about the “pandemic,” the angrier and more fearful of tyranny I become.

we're coming back lads, hopefully they don't have any 10am tricks planned

>>26244145
I listen to metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCCqER2xO28

>>26253133
I agree with everything you said.

The only positive I can see is that at least senile biden will be left holding the bag while the greatest financial crisis and currency crises in the history of the world converge while he's shitting his pants and wondering where he is. That will be worth not killing myself to watch that at least

>>26253675

The volatility is intended to frighten you, that's what Bart Chilton said just before he died. They want to make your heart sink as you look at that chart and think "Oh God, oh God, oh God, I've made a horrible mistake, quick I need to sell my silver sell my miners get out now it's going below $15 again Peter Schiff was wrong it's 2012 all over again silver is an industrial by-product it's useless the silverbugs lied to me the ponzi scheme will keep going on forever the end is nigh."

>>26244145
>American men don't even listen to Metal any more.
Speak for yourself faggot
https://youtu.be/OjviWgLQLe4

>>26243014
where to buy this stuff from

>>26253801
Better put that money into something safe like Tesla or Amazon.

Random design order from sd bullion came in today! 2020 philharmonics aren't too bad of an addition to my stack i suppose. I doubt they ever send out any of the higher premium coins they show.

>>26253971
https://www.rwmmint.com/products/rhenium
They sell a bunch of other cool metals too

>>26254095
>Buying Wieners

>>26254035
You guys have seen the unironic fintwit memes of Tesla being a store of value?

>>26249205
bumping

>>26253526

Unfortunately, we know now that they can make the PCR tests say whatever they want them to say. So they can now create their pretext for more or less totalitarianism whenever it is desired. I can see how we got to this point, because they have been boiling the frog for many years now. Patriot Act and the TSA should have been the line in the sand many years ago. But everybody is quite as weak-minded now as they were then.

>>26253768

Despite the fact that the Qanon people were completely wrong, I hope that the end-result of all this is that it turns out that we never needed a saviour in the first place. If things turn out as in the Roman Empire then the American Empire will simply fall apart of its own accord, along with all of its associated evil and corruption.

That's it for now folks, 6.25 oz gold and 260oz silver. Last two bits I wanted arrived today. Going to build up a small cash reserve now. No more PMs this year unless super cheapies.

>>26254507
The best thing about Qanon was how many minorities got into it

>>26254507
>we know now that they can make the PCR tests say whatever they want
We do?

>>26254628

>We do?

COVID Tests Gone Wild—An Epidemic of COVID Positive Tests

by John Hunt, MD

https://internationalman.com/articles/covid-tests-gone-wild-an-epidemic-of-covid-positive-tests/

>>26254507
The qanon people at least should be red pilled now and realise that NOBODY is coming to save them. We all need to be our own saviors, we need to be our own central banks, we need our own food supplies, self defense etc etc

We can't rely on anybody to save us from tyranny, we have to do it ourselves individually and collectively

>>26254589
Beautiful swiss francs

>>26254628

If you run PCR cycles enough times you can make anything appear to be present in the sample. The rate of false positives is very high.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kevin_McKernan/status/1320538413108518912
Scroll to the top of this link, theres more detail inside

>>26254721
They are nice condition considering they were bought as bullion/dealers choice of dates etc. Will look nice when I photograph them with this lot.

>>26254589
Nice guldens!

>>26254458
No, please share.

>>26254628
>>26254507

PCR is highly dependant on run cycles, and produces a lot of "noise" in the form of DNA fragments amplifying at random. We use primers designed to be specific to a portion of DNA you want to check for, and for the most part this is the only sequence that gets doubled each cycle. But in reality, there is always a lot of background noise from nucleotides pairing off and doubling and forming all sorts of junk sequences.

Its also incredibly sensitive to contamination as well. If you see the actual chart produces in a rtPCR , a positive will be a high line drawn above a bunch of squiggly shit at the bottom, which represents a large amount of amplified DNA which has likely come from primers, amid a sea of background junk strands that have formed.

There was some thing about how a lot of labs were using far too many amplification cycles, which causes more and more junk sequences to get amplified and makes it harder to declare a test a true positive.

>>26254902
Nearly 110 years old and still has full lustre. It's lovely.

Buy the rumor sell the news. Hopefully gold & silver won't crash again after the inauguration.

>>26252967
do 22k because the 24k will get fucked up

>>26255488

Should have inherited a metals recycling business instead, YOU PATHETIC STACKERS

>>26255261
More than 3000 years old, still shiny anon

>>26255547
>do 22k because the 24k will get fucked up

something tells me this is bullshit and pure 24k gold is fine to wear. any 24k jewelry wearers here?

>>26255571
How much capital is needed before I can start my own metals recycling business?

>>26255719
kek I mean its fine if you wear 24k once in a while, but sounds like you're looking for everyday wear

>>26255940
You absolutely cannot make rings, pendants, etc out of 24k gold unless its some artistic bs about things not lasting forever

>>26250952

Bayhorse Silver Executes Formal Offtake Agreement with Ocean Partners Ltd. for Bayhorse Silver Concentrate

https://ceo.ca/@newsfile/bayhorse-silver-executes-formal-offtake-agreement-with

Vancouver, British Columbia--(Newsfile Corp. - January 20, 2021) - Bayhorse Silver Inc. (TSXV: BHS) (the "Company" or "Bayhorse") is pleased to announce that it has executed a Definitive Offtake Agreement with Ocean Partners UK Limited, ("Ocean") for the sale of silver/copper concentrate from its Bayhorse Silver Mine in Oregon, USA.

The initial offtake agreement is for the delivery and sale of 300 metric tons or 15 full container loads of silver/copper concentrate that is being produced from the Company's Bayhorse Silver Mine. Among other conditions, Ocean has the right of first refusal to a 12 month contract extension after completion of the delivery of the first 300 metric tons of silver/copper concentrate.

The terms and conditions of the Agreement are confidential between the parties.

"This Offtake Agreement for silver/copper concentrate from the Bayhorse Silver Mine is a milestone achievement for the Company and demonstrates confidence in the Company's ability to transition from development to commercial operations," states Graeme O'Neill, CEO of Bayhorse. "I congratulate our team for this achievement and look forward to achieving our concentrate production targets utilizing our newly acquired operations site in Payette, ID, USA where we plan to relocate our concentrate processing facilities."

Jay Hemenway, Senior Trader in charge of By-Products, Precious and Minor Metals (USA) for Ocean states, "We are pleased to partner with Bayhorse and look forward to a long-term relationship as Bayhorse further develops its silver mining operations."

>>26256015
Very bullish, glad I bought a little more yesterday.

>>26256015
gayyyhorse silver

>>26255940
>>26256002


yes. 24/7 wear, 24karat gold bracelet weighing 1oz. the guy on youtube told me it was good to go why are you pussies saying "its too fragile!" gold doesnt just disentegrate...

>>26256110
24k is soft so it will bend quite easily with your hands, but there is no reason why you couldn't wear it every day. It's not like it's going to crack off and break. If you scrape it hard on something like cement a few flakes will come off.

>>26256015
When will these fucker just clear their debt, did they ever plan anything about that or do they intend to keep it as it is not seen as a problem in the near term ?

>tfw 1700 clears tmrw
I hope I can make it in time bros

>>26256015
down 11.26% on the day, you vill eat the bugs

CEO.CA being down again today is all bullish IMHO.

>>26250952
BASED SILVER MINER BRO

If you're right, FUDers will be swinging from lamp posts and bayhorse bro's will set off into the sunset in our superyachts.

>>26243577
Eheheh. I'll update this later got a favorite bar?
>t. >>26242864

May the mammoth bless you anons. WGMI

>>26256360
kek you baghorse copers are sum funny shit. That garbage stock is going to 0 and the only one setting off into the sunset on a superyacht is the bayhorse CEO after he scammed enough idiots

>>26256015
thanks based silver fren, I'm in for 10000. Bayhorse really tests one's patience, but I'm holding out to see where they are at $30 silver

Are we back on track silver bros?

>>26256472
What makes you believe that

>>26256472

I'd just like to say thank you to people like you and all the other fud-merchants on Stockhouse for allowing me to accumulate millions of shares at these prices.

>>26256472
I will unironically shill BHS until in breaks /pmg/ if it keeps you FUDing scum awake at night.

>>26256691
it's nice that we are going back up again but we've been stuck in this trading range for so ling that I'm not going to celebrate anything until we see $30

>>26256631
>implying $30 silver is going to save that turd

still a good time to accumulate Scottie (just hit 25,000 shares) very surprised how cheap it is right now

Their CEO Brad has indicated lots of drill results are coming soon

>>26254714
The Qoomers are saying now that Trump will be inaugurated on March 4th as the 19th president of the Republic. They’re completely disconnected from reality, and I find it funny because they’re doing damage control now that Joe Biden is officially the president

>>26256110
Then waste your money and wear it faggot, you can’t convince a retard to stop being retarded

>>26256472
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>26257471
Good or bad news?

>>26257679

720 baby, all from crypto profits, im out of casino.
>silver to 50$

>>26256759
>millions of shares at these prices.

You have millions of shares of Bayhorse, an actual percentage stake? I don't understand the FUD, did lots of people buy last summer and get taken to the cleaners? The small size of the mine/operation doesn't bother me because their ore grades are excellent.

Vanguard won't let me get any, can you buy BHS/KXPLF on Schwab?

Is .625 junk silver worth anything? I can't find any dealer in my area that buys it?. I can sell it above value of its silver content and buy 999 coins.

>>26257637

i'm going to buy one, wear it, and take a fucking picture and post it here you bitch

>it's too soft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahveldlcTpg&feature=emb_logo

>>26257999
>720 baby, all from crypto profits

Check'd and congrats on locking in gainz with silver, 720 ounce seats at the table won't be around forever so good job getting one before the music stops.

Bayhorse bros?

Vancouver, British Columbia--(Newsfile Corp. - January 20, 2021) - Bayhorse Silver Inc. (TSXV: BHS) (the "Company" or "Bayhorse") is pleased to announce that it has executed a Definitive Offtake Agreement with Ocean Partners UK Limited, ("Ocean") for the sale of silver/copper concentrate from its Bayhorse Silver Mine in Oregon, USA.

The initial offtake agreement is for the delivery and sale of 300 metric tons or 15 full container loads of silver/copper concentrate that is being produced from the Company's Bayhorse Silver Mine. Among other conditions, Ocean has the right of first refusal to a 12 month contract extension after completion of the delivery of the first 300 metric tons of silver/copper concentrate.

The terms and conditions of the Agreement are confidential between the parties.

"This Offtake Agreement for silver/copper concentrate from the Bayhorse Silver Mine is a milestone achievement for the Company and demonstrates confidence in the Company's ability to transition from development to commercial operations," states Graeme O'Neill, CEO of Bayhorse. "I congratulate our team for this achievement and look forward to achieving our concentrate production targets utilizing our newly acquired operations site in Payette, ID, USA where we plan to relocate our concentrate processing facilities."

Jay Hemenway, Senior Trader in charge of By-Products, Precious and Minor Metals (USA) for Ocean states, "We are pleased to partner with Bayhorse and look forward to a long-term relationship as Bayhorse further develops its silver mining operations."

The Company is not basing any decision to produce on a feasibility study of mineral reserves demonstrating economic and technical viability and advises there is an increased uncertainty and specific economic and technical risk of failure with any production decision. These risks include, but are not limited to

Gonna buy more gold tomorrow.
Feel like we're headed for turbulence.

>>26257865
we'll have to see, but PAN MAN likes their ground, and there's a lot of recent buzz on ceo.ca

WAGMI /pmg/!

I don't want to FOMO too hard here because I think we're still going to see dips and possibly a big market correction which hopefully will be a good point to go all in. But I'm looking to get a position in more established producers at this point. Which are the best bets?

I like PAAS, but can only afford 30 shares or so at this time. Is Hecla a good alternative in that space?

I already have positions in DV, BLLG, BHS, AG and IPT

>>26258091
>Vanguard won't let me get any, can you buy BHS/KXPLF on Schwab?
maybe because it is halted ???

>>26257999
Respect bro. In hindsight that is exactly how the crypto bubble should have been played. I wonder how many people are left with "paper gains" as they never cash out anything. I am assuming the larger population is full of brainlet hodlers who have not converted their internet money to anything of real value and consequently be riding the casino all the way down.

>>26258091

I was introducing silver small caps here from the beginning of 2020. BHS was only one of them, some of them are up as much as 5-10x. But a number of people rushed in and only bought BHS at the August peak, following the hype which ensued from a halt. After it went down afterwards (along with all the other silver stocks post-August) it severely damaged sentiment here, especially among people for whom this is their first time investing in mining stocks, and who are unaccustomed to extreme volatility. BHS was hit particularly hard because they made a misstep with respect to the Harrison Gold project. There's also a lot of fud about BHS from jaded old bagholders on places like ceo.ca and Stockhouse, and I imagine that a number of people here took note of that and panicked and sold at a loss. BHS sentiment has reached such absurdly low levels that people are accusing the CEO of being an outright con-man who presents fake silver ore in his production videos. Yes, BHS should be available on Schwab. I won't disclose my exact share count, but I have been buying hand over fist at these absurd prices. VGLD may be too late to get into now because it got halted after the El Cubo deal. It is going to soar the moment it gets unhalted.

>>26243342
well most kids in colleges are barraged by this spiel. They have no critical thinking. Anyway, I am an environmental engineer and I don't subscribe to most of the shit that is said nowadays.

I do like the idea of a cleaner world, I think most people can align with that, but most people would not give 10% of the luxuries they have to achieve that.

>>26258433
I just bought some more. It’s not halted from what I can tell.

>>26259085
I'm the retarded one, I though you said vangold.

>>26256631
>>26257178
Nice try shills

>>26257590
>cannot into 5d chess
Spec Forces are going to arrest Biden and Pelosi anyday now. Trump was just waiting for them to step into his trap.
were going to be eating popcorn while we watch GitMo TV shows all the martial law trials.
gonna happen anyday now,.....