/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>26241488
PNK

>>26241488
Rubic

Siacoin

>>26241488
>>26241501
Rubic

>1488
checked.

Also, unironically tether if they don't get crushed by the fed. Like the other three, they are the most performant in their asset class. No one is getting rich off of tether, but that's not the point.

>>26241488
AVAX

>>26241488
unironically dogecoin

>>26241488
luigi.finance

>>26241488
Poobis

>>26241488
none of the shit on the market right now

Dogecoin will moon.

FIL

>>26241488
Rubic plz sir my village

>>26241497
fpbp

LINK/REQ/QSP THE HOLY TRINITY

>>26241488
Actually disagree on btc. PoW is stale, outdated, and too energy intensive. Tps can't compete long term. It'll hold value for awhile because of network effects and institutional buy in but it will ultimately be an artifact

>>26241488
PRQ
smart contracts>smart triggers
its the next step

>>26241488
PRQ is the reverse chainlink. You don't just need data from the real world on the blockchain, you also need data from the block chain in the real world. It's so trivial I'm surprised how PRQ is the first

>>26241623
But at this point it's literally digital gold. Gold also has high friction associated with it, but it's a store of value. I don't see bitcoin fading away as a store of value for a very long time.

>>26241488
HEX

>>26241623
There is one point in history when btc may actually have some real fud and become an artifact and that’s 100 years from now when the last btc is mined

DOT

That’s it

>>26241528
>noone is getting rich off of tether
you sweet innocent child

>>26241661
Link would unironically be working on this if it was deemed important by paying customers.

>>26241488
Fourth problem: Okay but NOW we need to reconnect to the legacy finance structures since it will be a while before they're obsolete.

Solution: Parsiq (PRQ)

>>26241673
>>26241711
Like I said, it'll sail for awhile on network effects and inertia. Network effects is really the currency of the the digital age and btc has those powerfully. And being the first it will always have an appeal as the visionary leader. But it will be the MySpace to ETH's Facebook as long as tps can be boosted.

Digital gold is a fine metaphor. But gold doesn't have consistent minimum 20% annualized returns over any 5 year period and neither will btc going forward.

>>26241609
REQbro thinking about the potential of REQ is weird AND creepy

QSP though?

>>26241769
I should've said "no-one". Money printer, inc. being the exception.

Radix as long as the investors and leadership don't dump their coin at first profits.

>>26241589
That image is pure cancer.

>>26241884
ETH ain't facebook man. ETH is already showing its age and it's upgrade to 2.0 is like jumping out of a plane without a parachute. A bit early to call it the future.

>>26241488
INVEST IN RIPPLE YOU RETARDS

DO IT NOW THIS IS FINANCIAL ADVICE I AM A FINANCIAL ADVISOR

ICH BIN DEINE FUHRER look at the digits you know it's true...seriously if you don't buy at least 1000 XRP you will regret it for the rest of your life. time is running short. i want you to be happy and prosperous. do this for me.

>>26241531
This. Unironically... Unfortunately...

>>26241661
That the graph retard

>>26241951
Jeb decided lumens is the true Jew coin

>>26241951
oh god xrp is actually a scam isn't it.

There is no way to get subjective data onto the blockchain except Kleros. It already works, Vitalik personally approves of their implementation, keeps tweeting compliments about the team, and they are the ONLY project in crypto which pays dividends in a currency which ISN'T the native token, which is extremely important to prove it isn't a ponzi like DeFi.

>>26241949
Maybe so. Maybe it's friendster or LiveJournal or something like that. Maybe polkadot will be Facebook or maybe it'll be Cardano. The central point remains about btc not what follows its footsteps and overtakes it. The reason my position is link heavy is because that is the youtube, i.e. the cross-platform source that gets posted on the others.

>>26241488
isn't there a version of this image with 2 extra coins edited in? lmao

>>26241927
The Richard Spencer coin? Is it a fed too?

>>26241884
Yea if it’s digital gold the point is not for 20% annualized returns, it is to be a store of value. Also gold does not actually change in value much throughout time, simply the price in fiat terms changes as a reflection of additional units of currency in circulation. At the ubiquity phase, which is still 5-10 years away, it’s equilibrium will be found and volatility will be on par with that of gold, with a skew towards deflation over time as it is capped in supply (not in terms of being priced fiat, but in terms of how much quantity of a commodity or goods you can acquire for a bitcoin) It will be common knowledge how many units of X currency it takes to trade for a bitcoin and how much square footage of a house a bitcoin will purchase. This is store of value, and it will be used to back other elastic crypto currencies to allow for bond issuance, and lending facilities, with the BTC as collateral being transparent to all participants as not being rehypothecated.

>>26241488

BTC/ETH/BSV/ZEC will be the only relevant blockchains in the next decade. LINK won't really make sense once the bigger picture starts to form but you will probably see tremendous gains in the next couple years since its the first of its kind

>>26241488
Pubic

>>26242574
something being the first of its kind sounds familiar....(btc, eth)

>>26242574
>BSV
you mean that shitcoin that shills used to flood the board with?

>>26242691
What’s the story on BSV? I have a friend who only refers to BSV as “the real Bitcoin” and thinks it will become the new global cash system for money kek

>>26241488
GRT. No doubt.

>>26241623
Are you a computer scientist, sir?

I just sold all my link....that shit coin is dead

>>26241661
> PRQ is the first.
It is not. It is also far from the best.

>>26242574
>BSV
one of these is not like the other

>>26241488
Why isnt rubic up there?

>>26242914
Why is BSV perceived negatively?

>>26241534
Hahahahahh

>>26242574
BTC and BSV, huh.

>>26241488
GRT

>>26241488
kleros is 4
Unification is 5

I dont know how many times I have to tell you retards
>>26148990

>>26242967
It’s not just perception. It’s objectively shit, an actual retard tried to clone BTC, ruined everything that is good about it and claimed he is Satoshi (the anonymous creator of real Bitcoin=BTC). It’s worse than a joke. It’s even on par with XRP in the race for most pathetic shitcoin.

>>26243103
Yea I have see that dude give interviews and he seems like a snake oil salesman. What about the lower transaction fees and the speed of transfers being confirmed with BSV though? How is it able to accomplish those features?

>>26243274
Lower fees come either from low usage or low security.

Still trying to stay alive with fucking shit tokens trading? Lol, reckted with top Base Protocol, go hoome idiots

>>26241488
Rubic

do people actually believe that dogecoin is going to moon or are they memeing?

>>26243426
>coin based upon a meme
What do you think?

>>26242691
>>26242753
>>26242914
>>26242967
>>26243010

Big blocks will be extremely useful whether people like it or not, you can do a lot of crazy shit with bitcoin script + low fees. We are still in the dark ages of crypto

Ignore ayre/csw, focus on the groups doing stuff under the radar not affiliated with those guys because they are some of the sharpest minds in crypto right now

T. bitcoin/eth dev since 2012 that has been waiting to see huge blocks for years

>>26241501
Yep

>>26243545
i think that just because it's a meme coin doesn't mean that people don't believe that it's going to moon

GRT obviously

>>26241497
Fpbp
quints,quads,trips can all be rigged with bots but ID cannot.

>>26241501
>>26241518
>>26241589
>>26242617
>>26242929
>>26243385
very good sirs

>>26243274
>>26243359

The fee market as we know it now is very primitive and blocky, we still haven't gotten to the stage where miners get creative because we're only at the tip of the iceberg as far as use cases go

>>26242806
Nowhere near it.

>>26243274
Yup, what >>26243359 said.
Basically the btc protocol is full of very well balanced trade-offs that make it very suitable for store of value. BSV changes those parameters i favor of cheaper and faster transactions, making it suitable for the payment use case. But the payment use case is a meme, BSV really doesn’t offer anyone anything paypal doesn’t do better. The holy war is between the BTC crowd, who think BTC should be a store ov value and the BSV (and BCH) crowd who think it should be a payment facility, and since it isn’t they forked (copied) the BTC code and modified it to compete with paypal and visa instead of with gold.
The eternal question is: do they do it because they are really that dumb, or do they realize their forks are memes but also opportunities to scam beginners who might be taken in by a pitch of “bitcoin was supposed to be about payments, it’s in the whitepaper, but btc lost its way, so we created a new version that is faster, cheaper and thus better, and it is now the real Bitcoin”? Perhaps we’ll never know.
An example is the size of blocks in the blockchain. Btc does small blocks, so that you can download the whole blockchain and verify your account perfectly. This is a very important feature for a store of (significant) value. BSV went with bigger blocks, sacrificing that feature for cheaper and faster transactions.
BSV is a better payment network than BTC, so much is true. But paypal is a better payment network than BSV, because buying a coffee doesn’t really require a decentralized, censorship free system unless you’re a blacklisted Iranian dictator.

>>26241488
>1488
CHECKED

Etherisc DIP

>>26244676
>because buying a coffee doesn’t really require a decentralized, censorship free system unless you’re a blacklisted Iranian dictator.
Except that's pretty much what the incoming admin views me and roughly 100m Americans as.

As more and more people get unbanked and deplatformed from the gunshots system because the refuse state enforced gender reassignment surgery for their newborn, a crypto with ability to actually work as a currency might be seen as more valuable than muh digital boomer metal.

>>26241488
Unironically the future hedge fund of crypto: SURF.

ADA

PRQ

But I think GRT will play a background role. People will use GRT to give them information for use with ETH as currency, with LINK forming the smart contacts and PRQ automating it all.

>>26243385
Not yet but still $5 Christmas

>>26241488
From your image OP. How does chainlink prove did the package arrive and in what state? Let's say I order a guitar over the internet and some pajeet sends me a brick instead. How does chanlink fix that?

>>26241488
Monero

>trinity
>4th coin

this place is fucking retarded

you had 12 and 5 and 3 years, respectively

Obviously rubic

>>26242846
Stay poor anon

>>26242846
>he sold?

>>26241488
>>26241497
>>26241599
How did we get this far without any of you faggots posting the pic

>>26241488
What would the price of LINK be if it actually became the #3 coin?

>>26243426
>Newfag asking about Doge

Unironically a shitcoin

>>26245719
61 dollars faggot

>can mine it on your 5 year old shit pc
>buy drugs on the darknet
>Trail emissions guarantee mining incentive long term.
>Organic user adoption
>Unrivaled privacy

>>26245913
Go on.

>>26245861
Just asking. That's not too difficult to reach.

Unironically LTO
>>26243591

>>26241951
I read the SEC lawsuit Ripple is fucked.

API3

>>26245913
What's the best way to mine monero?

>>26241488
I’ll actually follow the format, OP:

The fourth problem: Ok - now that we have decentralized, programmable contracts - AND means of relating off-chain data to these, we’re going to need an asset that we can use to denominate our contracts, loans and financial products with/in. While Bitcoin was an innovation, it is not suited for this purpose, since it is too volatile and doesen’t possesses a mechanism by which its price can mitigate supply and demand shocks.

The solution: Enter Ampleforth, an elastic base money that absorbs price volatility and expresses this volatility in its supply instead. This is base currency that cannot be inflated, is completely resistant to supply/demand shocks - and a currency that in no way, shape or form draws value from the Dollar.

The next natural step in developing our ecosystem. A building block - a wholly novel, base currency with no long-term price volatility.

>>26246219
Supply elasticity is correct, but you want it tied to a basket of currencies based on SDRs, with elasticity governed by volatility, and rebasing to be non predictable to prevent arbitrage.

Enter benchmark (MARK).

>>26246217
XMRig but there's a nice GUI miner at crypto note.social.

You'll want to follow some guides to do some tweaking if you want to squeeze every last hash out of your machines, but there's nothing wrong with building out now, optimizing later.

>>26246389
Thanks, fren. I'll look into it today, after i'm back home from my wage cage.

Dogecoin! And if any of your coins that are mentioned in this thread is below the marketcap of dogecoin, please consider to reinvest because your shitcoin project is worth less than a meme coin. Take a deep breath, close your eyes and think about your bags of shitcoin

>>26241513
I remember holding 100k of this shit coin back in 2016. has it finally mooned?

>>26246345
>“The SDR is a composite international reserve asset, comprised of the U.S. Dollar, Euro, Great British Pound, Chinese Yuan, and Japanese Yen.“

Hard pass. Let’s build a new financial system that isn’t based on our old one in any way.

>>26246438
I'm just starting into mining again, more of a hobby because it's just fun as fuck turning a computer into a money printer.

I used to use Nicehash with 4 GTX 1060s in the peak of 2017. That was a nice operation for a couple months. Nicehash basically let's you sell your computing power to miners, in exchange for bitcoin. Something fun to look into as well.

>>26246564
It's not collateralized. The SDR is used only as it's rebasing peg and SDR is used specifically to hedge against any single central bank debasing is currency, a weakness ampleforth has by pegging exclusively to dollars.

>>26246827
No, you have misunderstood something critical. Ampleforth pegs to a 2019 Dollar. A completely arbitrary price peg. The purchasing power of its peg will never change, and thus is not correlated with traditional finance in any way.

>>26245913

>can mine it on your 5 year old shit pc

Nice larp fag, even if you had free electricity you would make about $4 a month on a fairly new gaming pc

>>26245119
If you’re banking on everyone who voted for Trump to buy BSV because they think Nancy Pelosi is coming to get them, I think you might end up disappointed.
Not that your concerns aren’t real. But they’re real for a few hundred thousand people, tops, not 100 million. If you think the government would be happy to unbank half its adult population, think again, it wouldn’t survive such a thing and it would never try because it is not in its interest (taxes).
It’s not that I don’t have sympathy over the upcoming credit hardships for facebook friends of the congress rioters. It’s just I wouldn’t invest in them as a moonshot in a bullrun. I hope in some way this reaches the capitalist part of your brain, which should be responsible for your investments, so your idealist side has some resources.

>>26245119
This is a fear mongering reason. Also Monero and privacy coins would be more valuable if what you say is true

>>26246890
And benchmark targets rebasing based on historic 3Q20 SDR price of $1.4075. The chief difference between the two is the mechanism of volatility measures and most importantly fixed vs variability in rebasing. Fixed rebasing make ampl an asset where arbitrage can occur.

Probably whoever manages to do smart contract insurance properly. Nexus Mutual sucks. UNN seems better but idk if its the next big thing. Also decentralized cloud storage is a decent 3-5 year play. I like ZCN.

>>26247103
Which is a good thing, since arbitration ensures stability at a high market cap.

GRT MOONING

>>26246948
No I understand that. But if they reach for a chunk of a hundred thousand, sins powerful network effects will be created, incentives for small retailers to begin accepting crypto will increase, and more people will begin seeing alternatives to the system such as it exists.

>>26247059
Fair point on monero. It has the tps ability to handle a significant amount of people decoupling from traditional finance. I'm not sure the computing power exists on network though to handle it. And yes, it's a bit of fear mongering but it's also taking the slow boil of the frog to its logical extension

Didn't read anything in this thread because it's all irrelevant. Pic related is all you need to know.

>>26247233
I'm not sure i follow the logic there.

>>26241488
>>26241501
>>26241518
>>26241589
>>26242617
>>26242929
>>26243385
Based rubichads

GRT of course. Next big coin is determined to focus on connecting block chain and real world. Anytl good project related to oracle has the potential to become important.

>>26247233
Either way, I think we both have the right idea regarding the need for an alternate to stablecoins as what can really unlock the pandora's box for the smart contract space to broadly moon. It's a matter of finite degree of difference between the two projects which are both conceptually trying to address the need to decouple from fiat.

It won't get much interest here because it's not a money making proposition coin, but either project of successful can maximize the value proposition of the rest.

>>26241589
how much poop in my butthole will i need?

>>26242057
redditors are ruining 4channel. feelsbadman

>>26241501
Checked green id

AAVE or equivalent

>125 replies
>no one has posted this

what the fuck happened to this board

>>26247268
I know where you’re coming from. I never bought bitcoin before 2018 because I always saw it as a “freedom cash” system. I was even kind of on the side of the big blockers, because I thought the “digital gold” idea wouldn’t work. And then suddenly 2017 happened and it was clear store of value would not just work, it had been bitcoin’s real use case from the start and that had been the reason for the price continually mooning.
I don’t hate cash coins. I hope they survive, because it’s what I used to be excited by. But I hate the idea that anyone would think of them as an investment that has reason to moon, other than during momentary bursts of FOMO confusion when newbs think they’re buying cheap bitcoin. A cash coin doesn’t moon, and from a “cyberanarchist” perspective there’s no reason to want that, stability is better so everybody don’t start hoarding the tokens. And understanding that is why I never invested in Bitcoin until after the crash in 2018. I wish I had understood earlier that bitcoin is not a cash coin though, no matter what that trickster Satoshi wrote in the whitepaper.

>>26248392
> bridging blockchains
> interswap
So stakenet wants to be the Ripple of Blockchain?

bitcoin

>>26247299
This

>>26241497
4xmoonGG

>>26248585
well Stakenet has actually achieved interchain swaps and will be launching a full decentralised exchange soon with BTC-ERC20 capabilities, meanwhile i dont know what in the name of god ripple has actually contributed to blockchain technology

https://twitter.com/XSNofficial/status/1351486142923886594

>What do you think is going to be the next 4th BIG coin?

Pic related

>>26241488
Easy radix

It's obviously GRT and you anons know it. It's a necessity like LINK.

>>26241497
It’s literally this, and I fucking hate myself for being filtered by the pajeet fud until September.

>>26249249