/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>26027654
People who say that never had a lot of money. I will let you know when I make it

somewhat. money is just a tool.
its like saying a paintbrush and paint/canvas doesnt make you a painter. no but you can use the tool to help achieve happiness
is it a matter of what a man is worth though

>>26027654
It doesn't buy happiness but it buys peace of mind and time, having those makes lots easier to search for happiness

money is security + buying cool shit that MAKES you happy.

money can buy an escape from unhappiness (wageslavery)

>>26027654
That is literally only said by poor people and rich people who inherited their money.

No, but 99% of anyone who’s ever said that has said it to cope

>>26027654
Money is obviously a useful tool, but its a common idea nowadays that happiness is not an external thing, rather happiness can only be found internally. (which is why you see happy homeless people).

No, it's actually true.

>>26027802
Felix Dennis said it

>>26027654
absolute cope

if you aren't happy, you just don't have enough

"But I'm a millionaire [with 3$ million that isn't even liquid] and still not happy, check mate"

Yeah fag, because 3$ million is not enough. With 30$ million you would be happy.

Fucking coper cucks

>>26027654
you'll probably be unhappy either way, so better to be unhappy with money than unhappy and poor

>>26027654
I was happier when I wasn't thinking about money and I had like £3k to my name. Now I have a gf, we live together, £40k but all I can think about is money

I'm fucking obsessed about money. It's ruining my life

>>26027654
only poorfags think its cope lmao. money simply gives you more opportunities to pursue happiness, that's it. once you stop being a poorfag you will realize there are other problems besides money

>>26027861
>40k$

That is because you are poor as fuck, read:
>>26027848

>>26027654
Money doesn't buy you happiness, but it's one less thing to worry about that's for sure.

>>26027911
Yeah I'm poor. Working towards 100k this year. But my happiness won't change. After that, I'll be chasing 200k etc

This is poisoning my mind

Just look at Jeff Bezos, he's being cucked by Elon in the space race. I bet he loses sleep over it.

It's technically true since you can, for example, be rich but get sick with cancer or whatever, but being poor certainly doesn't help you find happiness, except maybe for some religious ascetics.
It's definitely used as a cope by the poor, though. So it's both true and a cope.

>>26027708
It's the opposite, the people who have a lot of money often realise theyre not fulfilled or happy at all. Plenty of rich folk kill themselves. Money is often a goal, something to aspire to, when you take that away you lose a big motivator and you have nothing to distract you from the existential despair of our existence

>>26027654
No. It doesn't buy happiness. It buys access to happiness.

>>26027756
Buying shit will not make you happy unless you are very low IQ. Its fun for a year or so at most.

>>26027654
It doesn't. It can buy things that makes you happy. If you're prone to be a depressed fuck it doesn't matter anyway, it's your brain that it's wrong.

>>26027952
Once you reach a comfortable level of wealth I'd bet that your happiness level plateaus.

>>26027848
3/10 good try

Happiness is a state of mind my guy. Just focus on reaching eudaimonia

>>26027654
I'm happy when my income is greater than my expenses. I expect that, as I make more money, my expenses will increase, pulling the minimum amount of money needed for happiness up with it.

>>26027948
Stop viewing money as the end goal. Make making money fun. Watching the graphs go up, finding those interesting gem projects etc. It's fucking exciting man. Even fucking losing money is fucking fun because it fills you with adrenaline. Take the chaos pill and embrace that seeing numbers go up is fun and exciting. Who cares what you do with the money.

Everyone just look up the hedonic treadmill, there's your answer.

>>26027654
Yes. Although it's technically true.

>>26027708
This. Fucking exactly this. Every faggot I ever heard say money doesn't bring happiness are... poorfags.

Money is a tool to push your world view on others so you live in a world that suits you not the other way around. Thats what money is. The end.

>>26028052
this.

although a retard will repeat the process hoping it will work again

>>26028337
based.
I learned to fly a few years ago. Hopefully buying my own plane shortly. Changed everything.

>>26028561
Very cool. How much did it cost altogether to go from nothing to licensed pilot?

>>26027654
Money doesn't buy happiness, money only buys opportunities

>>26027654
Money doesn't buy happiness but cover basic needs

>>26027654
Not 100% yes but not far off.

>>26027948
>200k$

That is still poor. It's 2020 buddy. You need to work toward eight figures at least (not seven, eight). And that is 10M$ minimum to even matter on the radar

>>26027654
The opposite is actually a bigger cope. Happiness is found inside

>>26028865
stay poor, retard

>>26028883
You'll never have enough you stupid normie

>>26027654
>money doesnt buy happiness,
>it only removes your sadness of having no nice clothes, yellow teeth, no nice house, depts, shitty food, old fucking tech and hardware, no nice perfume and a rusty ass means of transportation
>But it DOESNT BUY YOU HAPPINESS!

Yeah money doesnt make you happy, it merely removes your crippling depression
Slave Morality by Nietzsche

>>26028622
I did my training is a newer aircraft, similar to the one I want to buy, so it was about 18k from my private license. I have since done my instrument, commercial, multiengine ad on, and a tailwheel endorsement for fun. I think all together around 100k now.

>>26029023
Awesome, show me the plane you're planning on buying? How much will it be?

>>26028000
based and truthpilled

>>26027654
I don't have a lot of money yet, but enough that I quit my soul crushing wagecuck job, if that ain't happiness I don't know what it is...

>>26028000
Are you saying that I am better off striving for that goal by investing and chasing business opportunities than by wageslaving to achieve rich status as soon as possible?

no, but money can certainly make it easier to be happy. usually saying "money doesn't buy happiness" is cope, since 99% of people who say that are wagie cucks

>>26027654
It's an empirically verified fact. People are happiest when they're forced to deal with challenging but solvable problems. When there's no pressure to do anything it tends to make mammals insane, unhinged at best but never happier.

>>26028948
Why would you ever want to have enough? We're meant to be sharks, always improving and pushing forward. It's not about dollar amounts, it's about forward progress. If I had a billion dollars I'd still want to improve

>>26027654
I have given up on the idea of happiness. I just want to be left alone and watch my money be taken away from me by poor choices.

>>26027741
This

>>26027654
I've always said that money can buy things that make you happy, but recently I've found more enjoyment in the journey than the destination. I'm in to cars and motorcycles, recently I just feel empty after a purchase. Looking for the right one and doing all the research feels more fun than owning it now.

>>26029272
I'm saying enjoy the journey because the destination isnt that great. A boat that you work 10 years to buy feels more satisfying than something you buy because you have infinite money.

Look up the hedonic treadmill, once you reach a financial goal and the dopamine hit fades you will want more and more. If you had all the cash in the world and you satisfied every material desire you could possibly want, it would not be enough, and you will feel an emptiness.

As other anons have said, happiness comes from within, this is a truism. It's simply a state of mind. A dirt poor slum dwellers can be just as happy as a millionaire.

>>26027771
This, When you have enough money to say "fuck you" to your boss and go on a skiing trip then you'll be in a much better position to pursue happiness.

Seriously, Show me a happy homeless fucker or Chinese factory worker. Alternatively, You have Blue collar/Trade bros that live for and love their fucking work.

>>26027654
No, money can buy you peace of mind and free time.
But if you're an unlikable virgin autist, you're gonna stay that way regardless of if you have money or not.

Having money only fixes your money problems, you’re still an obese, racist schizo.

If you think money can't buy happiness then just imagine how much more miserable you would be if you were 10x poorer.

>>26027654
yes it's massive cope. people who say money doesn't buy happiness didn't have enough money. Of course low IQ morons can find happiness by staring at walls and often wind up in worse positions than when they started if you gave them a million dollars, so it really depends on the individual

According to studies it does buy happiness, but only up to about upper middle class.
So making 100k a year will make you happier than if you made 20k. But making 1MM won't give you additional happiness.

>>26027654
Not entirely true but not entirely false either.
You'll obviously be miserable working a shit job just to make it to the end of the month with zero savings.
On the other hand, if you are skilled and lucky enough to get enough extra income with something that doesn't make you want to kill yourself, you'll eventually reach a point where money is just "there" and you have too much of it. Unless you become a super consoomer that buys expensive shit just for the sake of it then you'll eventually try to find entertainment through other means like hobbies, family, friends or travelling.

>>26029835
>Show me a happy homeless fucker
You can look up research on happiness. The homeless bum outside the Chinese factory is likely to be more happy and healthy than the factory worker struggling to buy trinkets he's been brainwashed to desire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYB_-NSbLM&ab_channel=CalebC

>>26029835
one of the happiest people i know is a homeless guy who sits on the side of a highway exit everyday. Oddly enough, he doesnt beg for money. He just waves and people and everyone knows him and he gets free shit all the time. I will probably never be as happy as this dude.

/biz/ isn't about happiness, it's about competition. Destroying your enemies, spreading your seed, or the simple enjoyment of being empirically superior. Happiness is a different matter entirely, although it helps not to be destitute.

>>26030322
>or the simple enjoyment of being empirically superior
for me it's this. sure it pisses me off seeing blue hairs running around trying to force me to eat the bugs, wear the mask, and pretend trannies will EVER be real women (they won't). but at the end of the day I'm always fulfilled when I see them doing the daily grind waking up at 6 AM while I stay back in my comfy bed, ready for another day of anime, video games, and watching my LINK skyrocket

>>26029668
This thread is about money causing happiness not about being ambitious and achieving goals (which can bring temporary happiness).

>>26027654
yes

>>26028086
Yeah that's fair. Once you get past a certain point you're no longer suffering from the stressors caused by low wealth and you start getting diminishing returns as hedonic adaptation sets in.

>>26028000
Money should enable your life and not be its purpose. Same goes for women

>>26030322
Fulfillment is a good word because when you excel you're fulfilling the potential your ancestors set up for you. When your instincts help you dominate an opponent you're fulfilling the purpose of the highly evolved weapons you've been given.
This has to be tempered with love for everything including your opponent and a mindful presence in the now or you become a machine incapable of that feeling of fulfillment or happiness.

>>26030607
Money is the unit of measurement for achievement though anon.

>>26027654
Everyone who says money doesn't buy happiness simply does not know how to spend money.
Money can buy happiness, but if you're retarded, you won't know where to find happiness on the market.

>>26029185
I am heavily considering buying a cirrus sr22 at the moment. Demoed one last week. Around 1 million after everything is said and done.

money can buy you happiness up until you reach abt 75 000/yr then it quickly plateaus. Someone's sense of security keeps going up the more money they though and never seems to stop.

>>26030981
Hory shet. What factors influenced your current choice?

>>26027654
Pretty much. Money can definitely buy you happiness. However, it will not solve all your problems either. You’ll just find different shit to worry about.

>>26027718
spbp

>>26030981
congrats anon

>>26030940
Pls elaborate. I could always use a little extra happiness.

>>26030875
Yes. You have love and appreciation for your meal, even though it had to be CHOPPED and DISMEMBERED to be there. Same thing.

>>26030981
The hum of the engine through ear protectors and your own thoughts, the same thoughts as you had on the ground in that job you hated so much. Wherever you fly to you'll still be there.
>If only I had enough to buy the 5 million dollar plane, then I would be happy

Money buys happiness up to a certain point. My estimate for a single burger in a non-ridiculous cost-of-living market is around $60k after taxes. Gives you a good chunk of change to live off of and money to start investing.
Beyond this, you're really starting to get into the territory where you're consooming.

>>26029443
Money lets you choose your own challenges. The difference is huge.

>>26027654
happiness existed before money

>>26031975
If you have the drive to play those kinds of games already I don't think the money adds that much in terms of happiness. If you have ambitious plans to accomplish something neat then you need money to do that. You want ambitious plans so you eventually want money but it's not the money or consooming that gives you fulfillment but applying yourself to problems.

>>26027654
>20yo
>90k net worth
>$4000/month income from my business
I had less than $300 to my name last year and was depressed af and struggling. I've literally never felt happier in my life, despite the lockdowns and all the bs going on in the world.
Money does make you happier, no matter what coping poorfags say. I now have time to do all the things that make me happy. Working out, making music, going on long walks. And that's coming from someone who is not even at 6 figures yet. Imagine how I'll feel when I have mid 6 figures or 7 figures. I'm gonna get my dream home with a nice garden where I'll grow me some plants to take care of and enjoy life even more.
Keep grinding and invest as much as you can bros, we're all gonna make it.

>>26031096
safety, performance, comfort. I have the majority of my hours in an older model of this same plane so that is the biggest factor. I will buy this or a Dimond DA62.

>>26031420
I was fairly depressed before I started flying. Seems to be working well so far. I guess time will tell.

>>26032885
What kind of business?

>>26032994
I don't mean to shit on you having fun in your plane. Since you do have the drive to fly don't let cynicism shoot you down.

>>26027654
It's impermanent is the point that phrase is getting at. Happiness is the byproduct of continual growth and development of your career and personal relationships.

if money can buy me the warm embrace of a woman without faking it, sure

>>26027654
It is a cope to a certain extent.
Up to the point of financial security and stability, money is hugely important for happiness. But once you reach that threshold, the returns start diminishing quickly. A family making 500k year instead of 250k isn't going to be twice as happy. Even going to 250k from 125k isn't going to matter much, unless you live in an area with high cost of living. 100-150k is where it no longer starts to matter much.

>>26027654
It's probably true, but money gives you breathing space and opportunity, and gives you a better chance of pursuing happiness. So it sure as shit doesn't make you less happy.

I think a large part of that adage is based on the assumption that money = hard work, and that slaving away to earn more money isn't a good thing, because what is the point of money if you're making yourself miserable to earn it? But that doesn't apply to passive income and getting rich off flipping shitcoins.

>>26027741
Not reading the rest of the thread, this guy gets it.
Do you know what it's like to wake up and have absolutely 0 worries and 0 obligations? To take pleasure in the simple act of existing?
I don't either but I'd like to before I'm 65 and I'm greeted by health problems and body aches every morning.

>>26033633
The people that most need direct motivation, that are mostly reactive to direct opposition live paycheck to paycheck and are much less likely to become wealthy.
The data you're talking about shows a correlation but maybe happier people are richer instead of the other way around.
>>26033822
>Do you know what it's like to wake up and have absolutely 0 worries and 0 obligations?
I do. It makes you yearn for obligations to worry about.

>>26034054
>It makes you yearn for obligations to worry about.
So there's no end to it? Sure it's not a mindset you can't break out of?

>>26027654
you can buy a lot of high scale escorts. So yes it will buy you happiness.

>>26034054
>maybe happier people are richer instead of the other way around
I suppose that is possible, but I think about it in terms of my own life, and feel that I'm approaching the point where more money wouldn't make much of a practical difference. Income is 120k in a relatively cheap part of the county. If it was 175k instead, how would my life be different? Drink a $50 bottle of wine on the weekend instead of a $20 bottle? Get an extra 500 sq feet to my house? who cares.

>>26034158
>Sure it's not a mindset you can't break out of?
I'm sure it is but that leaves you in an unproductive void. If we work from some goal like at least some vague notion of wanting neat stuff like art and spaceships or whatever allowing the yearning in is the right move. I don't want to be a vegetable under a tree, I want to be a space monkey with cool shades and a katana.

>>26034158
That guy sounds like he's coping hard. Yes, you do need activities and goals in order to stay happy. But those activities and goals are much more enjoyable since they're part of your hobbies and the things you love doing. No obligations to anyone else but yourself.

>>26034498
Thats what I figure. I don't mean lay in bed and be a complete waste of space. But fuck, imagine never having to wake up to a screaming alarmclock to go make someone else money? Imagine knowing if you decided not to get up you won't lose your house?
Imagine deciding that you want to dedicate your wednesdays to learning a new skill, every week, simply because you have the time and your tuesday-thursday project is about to be finished?
That's a nice life. That's a life of someone who can go fishing and appreciate being on the lake.

>>26027654
It doesn't buy happiness but it makes things a whole lot easier

For me money actually did buy me happiness (paid everyone I know 20 dollars to shut the fuck up)

>>26027654
It's cope. Neither poverty buys happiness
Also why people who say so doesn't give their money away?
>Money doesn't matters
>I'm a minimalist
And these people are cheap as fuck

>>26028086
most studies on the correlation between happiness and wealth report exactly this. Once you are upper middle class, you'll only compare yourself with people who are richer than you.

>>26034311
We're already conditioned to think of how royalty lived 300 years ago as inconceivable poorfag third world shit but if you were born in a different time you would think that's the best possible life. We adapt to changes in material conditions fast.

>>26028000
People born rich will never truly understand what makes it special. Being poor and managing to get rich is the ultimate happiness.

>>26027654
It’s not a cope. Happiness is internal and not external. Nothing external to the self can make the self happy. Your ego will never be sated so you must kill it.

>>26034912
This, nothing can beat that smug sense of superiority.

>>26033594
Here's a blackpill for you: it can't. I dont know how old you are or what situation you're in but its literally NEVER too late to start dating, even if you're autistic as hell. Just try to interact with a lot of people, men, women, old ladies. Literally ANYONE without any intentions at all. This will slowly start to improve your social skills, which, when applied at some place you meet women (hobby's, work, school, hell even tinder) will get you the warm embrace of a woman without faking it. This is literally the only way. Good luck.

>>26034912
It’s not special. That’s what you don’t get. It’s paper. COLORED PAPER. Its only use is to trick people that believe it’s more than that into giving up things of real value for it. Why do you think it’s called wage cucking? Because you are giving up time/energy to someone else for WORTHLESS PAPER.

>>26034934
Say that to the homeless people on the street, the people struggling to pay their bills, the people working a soul draining job which leaves them no time to do the things they really want to do.
If I want to play guitar, I need money to buy that guitar. When I save money to buy that guitar, I need time in order to learn to play it. Time is the most valuable asset in this world, and having good amount of money buys you a lot of time, a whole lot of it. More than 3000 hours a year.

>>26034907
I agree. Wealth beyond the point of financial security is a total meme. If you own a home, able to provide for family, and have a cushion for unforeseen expenses - your happiness isn't going to improve from anything beyond that. You'll just be looking for things to ease your boredom, and as soon as you get them, be bored again.

Schopenhauer was right about everything.

Its not that money can intrinsically make you happier. It makes you more comfortable though. For instance, if your parents die and you were close to them, these are the scenarios:
>be poor
>parents die
>find out news in shitty house
>still have all your bills and debts to worry about on top
>funeral bills to worry about on top
>wake bills to worry about on top
>worry about fitting in work around other commitments
>mourn

Or

>be rich
>parents die
>pay for everything no worries
>mourn

For me, sad things are going to happen to rich or poor people. But rich people have way more disaster mitigation. More likely to get back on their feet. More comfort. This is just one example. Crash your car poor? You're fucked. Crash your car rich? No worries. And so on. This naturally makes your life better. There are things I know are inevitable but I have a $100k emergency fund at 28 (europoor from poor family so this is a lot) and I am prepared to handle unexpected things way better than my peers. This is happiness, in some form.

>>26034651
You don't need to do any of that. You can go live in a cabin near some lake with fish. As a white man that owns a whole cheap car you can sell it and go fishing in almost any warm country in the world indefinitely.

Grew up poor, now have money to the point where I never care about bills and have at minimum 2500 a month to do whatever the fuck I want with. Maybe money doesnt buy happiness, but poverty increases sadness, anxiety, thoughts of suicide and self worthlessness. My parents where shit at money. I invest like 4/6ths of my income after taxes.

>>26027654
No. Money is important as you need it for everything, but it is just a mean to an end, it's what you can do with money that can lead to happiness.

No. But you can afford a better kind of misery.

>>26027654
The problem is that most people don't know what to spend it on to actually. Increase happiness. Basically same as saying "investing blindly doesn't yield returns"

>>26035145
For a poor person that colored paper buys them enough to survive, they are a slave to scraps of that colored paper. For someone with lots of that colored paper, they can do literally anything they want.

>>26027654

Money can buy drugs and drugs make you happy. It's a scientific fact: happiness is literally just a chemical. The logic is ironclad.

Somewhat, yeah. On one hand, you can have a lot of money and also be a depressed piece of shit if you don't properly orient your perspective of the world and recognize what makes you happy. But it's nearly impossible to sanely build your own happiness without wealth. Wealth makes it easier to build your happiness, but it doesn't necessarily equate to happiness. What you do with that wealth and how you strengthen your mind is what really matters in the end.

I use to be a wagie, now I have a business that earns me 7-8 digits a year I am truely more happy!

The money isn't the happiness it's the freedom you get through time. Not having to take up by an alarm, not being in traffic next to wagies every morning, having some school yard bullshit dynamic at work, not hanging out till friday to stress over a shitty weekend about monday...

It definitely brings happiness to you!

>>26027654
Its absolutely cope, no one is happy being a wagie, no one wants to live in some shithole apartment near where they probably would get stabbed for having a nice watch

>>26035293
He was right for sure but his depressive attitude can be avoided by meditation and good health. It is very attainable to stare the world in the face and laugh rather than cry.

>>26035915
What kind of business?

>>26027654
It's a bit of both. When people want to be rich for its own sake or to get prestige/status or just mindless consumerism, they'll be just as depressed when they started. If you have reasons to live and can use money to enable them (think being rich enough to fund your rock climbing traveling as an example), then you will be very happy.

This question has been settled by the science. Money buys happiness up a certain point, IIRC something like a hundred thousand yearly income, whereafter the correlation plateaus.

>>26027654
Only rich people say this. However if you're just a person who hates life you still won't be happy even with money.

>>26035985
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>>26036239
>omg totally obligation free!
>being a sex slave and having your day revolve around pleasing random men is so empowering my dudes!
>slavery4lyfe

>>26027654
Is just happiness to say that money doesn't buy cope?

>>26036504
I don't deal with them I have the money to pay pajeets to do that!

I have sex with a model while you...

Get up to an alarm to work everyday sucking your bosses cock for $10h prob flipping burgers!

Or you're a neet with no money and a bag of shitcoins!

Cope!

>>26036647
I only work on my own projects. If I give a model the privilege of enjoying my lovemaking it's because I want to not because some degenerate somewhere is desperate for fapping material.

>>26027654
No, money doesn't buy happiness but it makes it really easy to be comfortable and happy about it.
Money doesn't make you instantly person that people like or believe that they might be happy with but they'll give a shot at happiness if you got shitloads of money

>>26027741
pretty much, i'm 40 and don't have to work much to have my place and my wife, money buys the comfort of choice and removes the stress of the jew banker wagie cage on your life

>>26036959
We make our own creative content! People enjoy people pay! We don't make it for them!

We literally make over 100k a month filming our sex and simps pay for it... We actually get off over filming and people watching us. So whats your problem with it your prude ideologies are irrelevant to the way I interpret my life. I'm a success because I enjoy being creative, having sex with my partner and sharing that art form that just so happens to pay a lot of freedom(money).

These are my own projects people appreciate, And I don't pay to fuck a model, I get paid to fuck a model... know the difference!

>>26027654
i will tell you the RED PILL:
you need money for the happiness but if you dont use them properly you wont be happy at all.
1. you can spend a lot of money on objects that make you happy for a day or two and are just not worth it. I can get a lot more dopamine and happyness buying a 100$ chop saw than a 20,000$ 2012 BMW boring sedan.
2. if you live around shitty people and have problems with neighbors and road rage, stuff like loud music, drilling, feuds....your life will be hell no matter how much money you got, except if you dont pay a hitman.
You will always be more richer if you have a quiet house in the woods with no problems or noise, versus some guy with a 600k mcmansion living next to karens and obeying house codes. You are better off with an RV.
3. Your choice of a woman defines your whole life. If you stick with a gold digger or some insuferrable cunt that yells at you, cheats on you, divorces you..welll it doesnt matter how much money you have right?

Its not that you need that much money, its that you dont know how to spend them right.

you spend them on BMWs and macbooks, you will ALWAYS be poor and unhappy.

>>26037217
You can cope with it however you want, in the most established terms you're a high class sex slave. That's how most people through history would see you. If being a sex slave suits you that's fine but don't pretend it's comparable to freedom.

>>26035145
Are you really so new that you think COLORED PAPER is wealth?

I have increased my levels of happiness exponentially after I quite my wage cage.
Money savings help me sleep at night and relax during the day.
I feel extremely happy when I can explore nature alone and don't need money to do that.

Money buys ACCESS to happiness

>>26027654
Yes and no. Money can enable happiness, but it can't buy it outright.

>>26027654
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmOeUX6q10

>>26027654
With enough money i could force feed jessica simpson buttered poptarts until she gets so fat she is bedridden and cant stop my dog from fucking her while i do lines of ketamine off her big fat obese tits.

With enough money i could just do that a few times a week. It would make me so fucking happy. God i want to see her take a dogcock.

>>26036647
you make 10 million a year selling amateur porn? fibd that a bit hard to believe

>>26027654

What the fuck is happiness? There is only fulfilling your purpose of creation; money may or may not be part of that.

>>26028956
>depts

>>26038736
>your purpose of creation
It had a purpose?

>>26038182
I think you have many issues to focus on before even considering thinking about money.

>>26027819
Homeless people are either mentally ill or drug addicts. A happy, sober homeless person is probably a rare sight indeed. They always look pretty miserable from my end.

>>26028000
>i know these things
But you're poor. How the fuck would you know if money buys happiness if you've never had any?

>>26038892
Yes to make cool stuff happen.

>>26036647
sounds like you're the one coping mi gi

>>26027654
Saying that "money doesn't buy happiness" is the same as saying "water doesn't quench thirst".

>>26031143
since thread still going on
SECOND THIS

>>26029802
>Look up the hedonic treadmill, once you reach a financial goal and the dopamine hit fades you will want more and more.
Unironically why a lot of the elite are hedonistic pedos engaging in criminal activity; their dopamine receptors are burned out

>>26040056
i thought i'd never have to see that banana ever again.

>>26027741
Money buys everything but time

And real love, which is pretty dam scarce when you are rich

>>26027654
Yes. Money does buy happiness. There's no way I hell I'll ever be happy living in this godforsaken apartment complex where I've spent nearly 30 years of my life. Poor people understand this and cherish money because they know sacrifice and hardship without it. People born rich or having lived a semi modest lifestyle have no place in this conversation.

>>26040528
Money buys free time. No need to wageslave frees up 8+ hours a day.

Money gives you the time and means to live your life exactly how you want to live it which = happiness.

>>26027654
money will not buy you happniess but it will take most of your worries away. but your new thing to worry about is losing your wealth and be a broke faggot again.

>>26033032
>What kind of business?

LARPing on 4cheng

money buys emptiness and boredom imo

>>26041267
Rather be an empty and bored rich man than hungry and cold wageslave.

>>26027741
This made me at peace. Even if I lose my job tomorrow I have plenty of savings, a family that loves me, my youth and my health. It's not "making it" and I have ambition to do more, but it's comforting to know that I have a support structure.

>>26027654
It is true. However, most plebs use this mindset as cope because they got no money, and giving up is easier than becoming rich.

>>26027654
no. youre actually a giant faggot if you need money to be happy. money is def useful and makes life EASIER but it will not make you happy.