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>insane amount of fud (both funny and high quality, both are very battle tested)
>enormous amount of high quality memes
>both are high IQ projects that you won't fully get at first glance
>insider jokes keeping normies/redditors away (for instance, LINK: jason parser, STA: nigerian terror cell fud)
>funny insider jokes about the team (LINK: Sergey and his burgers, STA: Souvlaki and his sex castles/Megan and her estradiol treatment etc...)
>high quality fud (LINK: Zeus Capital, STA: Statera Health)
>100% /biz/ projects, very few outsiders knew about LINK in the beginning and currently they do not know about STA
>both have very autisticly intelligent founders (Sergey and Scott)
>STA twitter is very silent, much like LINK was allowing /biz/ to accumulate under the radar
>both have a very dedicated/cultish/autistic community
>very similar logo colors/neat and similar design
>both have massive profit potential and are best at what they do (LINK w/ the most prominent oracles so far and STA w/ one of if not the highest liquidity pool returns)
>both are DeFi projects (DeFi = future of finance, the revolution of traditional finance)
>both were born during a similar king of altseason (LINK: ICO season, STA: DeFi Summer)
>LINK used to have a lot of copycats/project killers early on which all flopped, so does STA (stonks, XMM, statera gold/diamond...) all despite not even being a known project outside of /biz/ and being a smallcap coin
>a large % of STA wallets include LINK (since both are /biz/ projects it makes sense they have partly the same community and might just be a coincidence)

Regardless of what you think about Statera I'd argue that it's too risky not to hold, especially considering it's still has a 5x until it hits ATH . Previous time this thread was posted it sparked a lot of interesting discussion so might as well use this as the foundation for a general thread (v2). Questions & discussion encouraged.

>> No.26018049

>>26017990
i cant swap eth for it on uniswap wtf

>> No.26018084

Things looking so bullish rn. Good, last few months has been pretty dull.

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26018098

>>26017990
I hold STA so I’m a bit biased still but goddamn look at that chart. Tell me it’s not looking sexy. Liquidity in pools rising as we speak and so is volume. Things are looking great again.

>> No.26018167

>>26018084
Agree. Marketing is still happening although we probably shouldn’t expect anything super crazy, but something to still get things going. And the dashboard is getting worked on every day.

>> No.26018189

No.

>> No.26018253

>>26017990
Can someone explain all this pooling stuff to a dummy? I dont get what makes statera pools unique. Something about deflation but i dont see how that makes any difference...

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26018310

Are you shilling me to put 150$ on statera !?

>> No.26018568

>>26018253
The deflation on its own affects the price on a macro-scale over time as the supply reduces, but this is not the point, it's just a bonus to add positive price pressure. What happens is that let's say the Balancer pool needs to balance the ratios of the coins in the pool. It will sell and buy these assets, whenever it sells or buys wSTA, it will affect the price of the token. This means that the Uniswap pool consisting of wSTA/STA needs to sell wSTA and buy more STA in order to balance THAT pool. After that is done, the 1% burn will cause the Uniswap pool to yet again be unbalanced, which means it has to be re-balanced again. Meaning more volume and more fees. After this is done, the price has yet again changed for wSTA and it will ripple back over to Balancer causing for more balancing and so on.

Not only that, it creates arb opportunities for bot out of thin air. They mint/unmint delta(=50/50 sta/eth) and wrap/unwrap statera in order to make a profit. For the liquidity providers this means more balancing and more volume, resulting in more fees earned.

>> No.26018570

>>26017990

I agree with all of that. However, I still think that theit website/dashboard is an absolute piece of shit.

I'm a programmer so I am not completely unused to looking at things I initially don't understand, however I couldn't be arsed to look at that shitty UI/UX long enough to understand what the fuck is going on. Imagine your average Joe Schmuck. I can't ever imagine someone like that giving this stuff a try. And for a consumer product, which STA is, that means its completely useless.

>> No.26018660

>>26017990
cant wait for this to pump a bit so i can actually pool my stacklet.. got 36k of these tranny coins

>> No.26018782
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>>26018570
No one will disagree that the dashboard is of very poor quality, but the website is great. It has all the explanations to the different pools and direct links to every pool and links to buy STA and wSTA. It functions like an alpha dashboard in itself kind of. Also super beautiful on mobile.

>> No.26018837

statera is not loved. It can't pump.

>> No.26018911

>>26018782
doesnt matter as long as it doesnt do its job.. i know shit probably hit the fan but no matter how unlucky the team got this was not supposed to happen like this

>> No.26019001

>>26018568
Ah gotcha. Thats actually kind of smart. How are the devs? Are they trustworthy? I cant find pictures of them anywhere, are they anon?

>> No.26019064

>>26018911
100%. They could've just released the dashboard which was finished even if it was only with the delta/phoenix pool but it was probably broken anyways.

>> No.26019082

>>26018570
I dont get why the dashboard is so important, can you explain?

I have 14,000 STA atm but can't see how that effects the use case. Its not like they can't just hire a dev to do it worse case scenario for like $2k

>> No.26019090

>>26019001
not sure if there are any pictures.. you might think that thats dodgy but since the team doesnt hold that much statera tokens, its not ruggable.. 2 people that dumped on us recently were a chink chinaman and a metamask wallet hacker

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26019092

WE NEED A DIP, I'M BUYING 4K MORE TONIGHT TO COMPLETE MY 10K STACK

>> No.26019157

>>26018049
Adjust slippage to 1.03 (gear icon in the corner) and enter a whole number of Sta no decimals :)

>> No.26019189

>>26019082
people are propably working on the dashboard as we speak, but since no date has been given im starting to suspect that the job they have is mich harder than it should be, probably because it would be easier to make it from scratch, but also that more expensive

>> No.26019225

>>26019082
Because it will make basically everyone have easy access to pooling, no matter how much of a brainlet you are. This would up the volume and liquidity. It's coming, we just don't know when.

>> No.26019304

>>26019189
>>26019225
The thing is, it really doesn't look like its that difficult to make, if they really have it as a priority I am sure it could be even completely rebuilt within a month.

>t. own a hosting company.

>> No.26019371

>>26019304
Why don't you reach out to the team if you know how to develop this kind of stuff? Sure they could even consider compensating a bit for helping them out but what do I know...

>> No.26019471

>>26019371
I don't make these things myself. Too busy with the running of the business.

But I have hired full stack developers who have made full control panels that look to be more complicated than this is for under $2000.

>> No.26019487

>>26019304
i know, just trying to be open minded, as who knows what has happened behind the scenes. still, i would expect the full dashboard by the end of the month, i think thats a reasonable amount of time

>> No.26019546

>>26019487
Agreed, I dont understand this fud at all.

>> No.26019630

>>26019471
In that case, please reach out to Dok or Souvlaki
Even if you're not sure it'll help, it's worth a quick message!

>> No.26019672

>>26019546
nobody is fuding this for the sake of the project failing, the target for the genious fud so far in my eyes really was to lower the price as much as possible.. i know that has been said plenty of times by now but that makes the most sense to me

>> No.26019731

>>26019487
You are very much correct. Let's hope we see it ASAP. Even if they are volunteers they are still invested in STA so you'd imagine it's in their best interest to make it happen

>> No.26019870

>>26019731
you know its weird that there are no people calling this an inorganic thread. youd figure that would be the case by now

>> No.26020212

>>26019471
Any recommendations on finding good developers? I'm going to find a person, get a quote off them and propose it to the team/community.

I'll see if people are willing to put their money where their mouth is, its the only way a project like this will take off.

>> No.26020305

>>26018837
This is true. According to the laws of love and compassion

>> No.26020652

>>26019471
>>26020212
AFAIK 2k is a steal. Usually at least in the crypto space they ask for 4k minimum maybe even more with stateras functions

>> No.26021172

>>26020212
Are they able to provide the full requirements for the control panel in detail?

If so I will also have a look. Been using personal contacts or full stack devs from people per hour etc.

>> No.26021258

As a starter for 10, here's what I think each of the Dashboard views should have:

STATERA / wSTA
- Price graph
- STA:wSTA Price
- Supply / Burn
- [Buy STA]
- [Wrap/Unwrap wSTA]

UNI LIQUIDITY POOLS (Delta, Infinity)
- Liquidity
- Volume
- APY% 1d, 7d, 30d
- [Add / Remove Liquidity]

BALANCER POOLS (Stanos, High/Low-Risk, Phoenix)
- Pool asset components
- Liquidity
- BPT Price (Asset Value)
- Volume
- APY% 1d, 7d, 30d
- [Add / Remove Liquidity]

>> No.26021344

>>26021258
Not sure what the most relevant info for the Dashboard home is - maybe keep it simple and just show STA price, and Balancer Pool 7d APYs and Asset price movement %.

>> No.26021464

>>26019001
Well, they did a 2M USD refund after Balancer was hacked. They are anon but that if something tells that they are legit. It wasn't even their fault.

>> No.26021533

The guy who made it isn't anon - it's Scott Botha.
His face is on loads of memes and stuff lol

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>> No.26021675

>>26021172
Yes, I can provide in detail the requirements for the control panel and most of the issues the current team developer has run into.

>> No.26021977

>>26021258
You should @doktor_funk in TG so the team sees this

>> No.26021980

grt is the new chainlink

>> No.26022054

>>26021980
Nah. GRT when straight to the top list. Perhaps a good project (don't know anything about it) but it most certainly isn't anything like LINK

>> No.26022083

GRT is the new link

>> No.26022119

>>26021675
If you can send them that would be great. Il ask some guys in my team as well if they are able to take a look.

If you need an email or something I can provide.

>>26022083
Okay rakesh.

>> No.26022181

Why does phoenix even exist if everyone just pools in stanos and is just better lol

>> No.26022242

>>26021172
Are you in the Statera TG?
I'm assuming you are as you're in this thread and seem to know a bit about the project
Send a message in the chat and @ Doktor Funk or Souvlaki please. Thanks!

>> No.26022383

>>26022119
Are you on the tg or discord? I can send you it through there or email if you would prefer.

>> No.26022557

>>26021977
I'm making wireframes that I'll share with the team

>> No.26022890

>>26022383
Im on the discord and tg, called baldr on it.

>> No.26023049

>>26022890
Dope, I just sent that to you on tg.

>> No.26023177

>>26022181
Stanos has 50% Statera. But yeah I agree Stanos is better.

>> No.26023609

>>26022181
>>26023177
To be fair, Phoenix has Delta which allows for bots to do arb trading. It's still very needed and a good pool. Underrated IMO

>> No.26023723

>>26023609
WTF is arb trading everyone seems to talk about

>> No.26023773

So seems like we have some insiders in this thread. When marketing?

>> No.26024093

>>26023773
I don’t want to FUD since I’m getting married to the idea of this project but the marketing is extremely underwhelming at the moment.

There’s not a lot of solid stuff in the works. Maybe about 3 articles and 3 YouTube videos and most of those options are unavailable. If I were you I would start shilling this project on investment social media accounts and stuff like that. But honestly I’m starting to think organic growth is going to take longer than we all think. This project is unknown outside of biz & tg lol. Even if we start pushing the Reddit to have more discussion I think it would be an effective marketing strategy since Reddit so well known and will pop up first when people google Statera.

>> No.26024149

>>26024093
Excuse the English, I’m hastily typing while taking my paid poop break.

>> No.26024154

>>26018568
Love your work anon, but I don’t think uniswap does any rebalancing or buying of any assets to be honest with you. It doesn’t take away from the ecosystem, but just wanted to correct that.

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>>26023723
Exchange 1: Price of STA 0.07
Exchange 2: Price of STA 0.075
>Bot buys from exchange 1 and sells on exchange 2 for a profit.

Basically this, but same idea with unminting and minting delta and wrapping/unwrapping statera based on price fluctuations.

>> No.26024243

>>26018568
so it doesn't actually have actual practical, high value use cases like LINK, thus it's nothing like LINK, stop shilling this shitcoin already

>> No.26024298

>>26024093
So maybe post ads on crypto news sites, reddit brave broswer facebook coingecko twitter and the likes?

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>>26018568

>> No.26024383

>>26024243
Check the balancer volumes anon.

>> No.26024386

>>26024243
Everything I wrote is true and very similar to both projects. LINK has the first mover advantage in its field, STA in its own. It's not so much the use-cases that are similar, more so the glaring similarities between early day LINK and STA.

>> No.26024389

Reminded that if STA was still at its ETH all time high value it would be about $1.20

Also during the christmas the peak (at current ETH price) was $0.26 but the 900k stolen STA that were dumped didn't really help.

>> No.26024438

>>26024154
what

>> No.26024446

>>26024301
Hi, mom

>> No.26024531

>>26024389
Also gas fees still raping ass. Imagine ETH 2.0, UNI v3 and Balancer v2. The bots will go crazy and investors will jump on statera

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>>26024446
Son, I'm off to the s*x castl* for the weekend. You be good now, hear?

>> No.26024856

STOP COMPARING STATERA TO LINK IT IS FUCKING CRINGE NO ONE WILL TAKE US SERIOUSLY IF THAT"S WHAT YOU WANT

>> No.26025188

>>26024856
No ones doing that faggot.

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>>26024856
I'll take you seriously, Anon.
>t linkfag and stafag

>> No.26025329

>>26024298
Exactly Anon, personally I think Reddit is the way to go.

Look at the Vechain Reddit and that level of engagement definitely made it attractive to new investors. I know people here are judgemental of Reddit but it really is the best way to make this project come alive in my opinion.

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>>26025188
literally the first post.

>> No.26025403

>>26019157
Absolute legend. I've been struggling with this too.

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>>26025403
Pic related for anyone lurking and thinking of buying on Uniswap.

>> No.26026015

>>26025400
Checked. Fair enough. I dont think they're making any direct comparisons just comparisons in the ecosystem at large.

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>> No.26026983

Look at the Stanos pool volume. Literally no one is pulling liquidity out. Liquidity keeps increasing. Volume to liquidity ratio is insane. Healthy amount of users that's increasing on a daily basis. Pooling in Stanos is one of the comfiest holds out there. Only thing that sucks is increased liquidity = less personal pool share.

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>>26026983
Was a top 5'er 2 week ago. Now im almost pushed out of the top 10. People are putting serious liq into STANOS. And its comfy as crypto gets. Especially with wSTA whitelisted the warning message will soon disappear, and we're reaping full BAL rewards. Truly the king of defi.

>> No.26027272

I’ve bought so much

Feels like I’m on a fucking rocket ready to go

>> No.26027780

>>26026983
Won't more volume mitigate your decreasing pool share tho?

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26027787

>>26027058
Bullish and whitepilled. WAGMI STAbros.

>> No.26027850

>>26018098
looks dead cat to me

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We really need some marketing no matter if its shitty. Team take note if you see this message

>> No.26028201

>>26027780
in the short term, yes. i imagine that over time volume will cool down though.

>> No.26028305

>>26027780
You mean more liquidity. Yes, but with more liquidity also comes more volume. It’s just that currently STA has a low volume itself, otherwise the APY would be in the 100s of %. Could be because of the gas fees partially as well. At least today they were high.

>> No.26028420

So, does this token solve the Lambo Problem?

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>>26028420
It solves the BigMac problem, which - owing to compounding returns - ultimately solves the Lambo problem.

>> No.26028605

>>26020212
I will absolutely put my money where my mouth is. I'll pay for the whole fucking thing myself. You'll see when I repeat this exact comment in STA-Gazers. I want a finished fully functioning product and I'm no John faggot I'll get this shit done I just don't have the time to be doing research on the subject. I have yet to see anything worth me funding from STA-Gazers but the momentum and efficiency of the group is at least growing and I know eventually everywill fall into place

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>>26028420
I rest my case.

>> No.26028787

>>26028605
If you're serious about funding it yourself (and you post this in the SG group) I'm sure a few people will be more then happy to chip in, including me!
And that could be the kick-start we need

>> No.26028810

>>26028592
>>26028616
How does it solve this?
When lambo?

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>>26028810
Statera increases fees paid to liquidity providers. So savvy liquidity providers will want to see Statera form part of any pool they participate in.
Pools incorporating Statera benefit from increased volume (i.e. fees generated; see Stanos balancer pool for proofs) and reduced volatility owing to the more abundant opportunities for arbitrage.
Statera itself deflates with each trade and generates its own positive price action, triggering more re-balances of every pool it is in (fees generated.)