/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's almost beddy time frens. Goodnight all.
Be kind to other schizo's but not to fudders

>>25918567
Oopsie, I baleeted mine
blessed be the twin baker

Any big brains here? Is this it? Cause from the looks of it 1/13 was just another meme date...but we are getting closer to switch flip

May September Shine Like Gold on December

5 + 9 + 7 + 9 + 12

42

2/4 > 4/2

>>25918617
Fudders provide the ultimate buy signal tho. You gotta show them some love for that

Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope.

i will be creampieing third world hookers twice per day within a matter of months.. bless you all wagmi

>>25918653
it's only 6 am in the west coast. RubberDucky day will be legit

>>25918653
1/13 isn't about xrp, its to do with the election and government.

>>25918658
As soon as fudders show up that is the signal to buy.

Or this...

May (5) September (9) Gold (79 = 16 = 7) December (12). 5+9+7+12=33. 33 days. 14 Feb

Alternatively: Mr Pool gave us clue 16, 21, 30. 16 + 5 (May) = 21. 21 + 9 (Sep) = 30. These days also match moon phases over BG's head. Add 12 days (December) and we find 11th Feb. New moon

>>25918658
the only thing I'm going to show them is my net worth when we make it. They will beg to enter the XRP pleasure domes and I will reject them and leave them out with the pajeets who guard the gates.

currently working on xsgxrp girl.
still have to make changes.
bigger chest.. and so on.
and still just in the drafting stages...

>>25918740
very lovely
gives me inspiration
please keep your sketches anon i really like them

>>25918682
Which Third World? SoutheastAsiaor Eastern Europe? I would be doing the same if not for phimosis and ED.

>>25918740
She is gonna get lewded so much...

I feel these meme dates are part of the strategy to edge out and make you sell.

Won't work on me faggots

>>25918716
Literally when I saw how professional and well versed the FUD became in the last bread, I could sense we are close fren

You guys must be masochists

>>25918809
best stablecoin on the market
until it's not, then it pumps fucking wild

>>25918682
Primarily Thailand and Vietnam. Your ED is probably psychological caused by anxiety, the hookers will help you through that. The phimosis can be rectified with surgery. You are going to make it fren, we will be shooting our sticky loads inside their tight pussies this year.

>>25918800
Checked going to buy more xrp today.

>>25918809
They truly are.

I don't think you guys realise how absolutely bat-shit insane you guys sound. Can you read out your theories for why XRP will go to 2k to your closest friends/parents so they can send you to a mental asylum?
You guys are clinically insane and will never make it.

>>25918860
I wanted to be committed but they don't have room.

>>25918860
>You guys are clinically insane
Why thank you, how could you tell?

>>25918860
I told one of my friend since elementary schools xrp will hit 10k in the future.
I have always believed this, i have no doubt xrp could even reach 50k 10-20 years from now.

>>25918860
>You guys are crazy

As insane as holding Fiat?
As insane as investing in the current market?
Or in BTC and ETH?

Look at the other options. XRP is pretty reasonable. Better is gold but that's just to hedge

>>25918919
Needs more OOOO

>>25918653
the dumbest shit I have ever seen. Take this retarded shit back to twitter. We moon faster thank you think.

>>25918979
Silver is pretty solid for a more speculative trade.

> Tfw fudding XRP in other threads to keep the /biz/ normies away

>>25918724
Some one get this fucker out of here

>>25918860
it amazes the fuck out of me when people come into the SCHIZO thread and are surprised to find schizos. Your life must be one long series of surprises. I bought a can labeled beans and there's BEANS IN THE CAN? How can this be?

>>25919082
You do you friend I ain't carrying boomer rocks with me yet

The world makes me ill

>>25919098
Most of them are too liberal and materialistic. If you're not holding crypto so you can buy a cabin and meditate all day to ascend in peace, you're not doing it right.

>>25918920
I have no doubts XRP has the potential to be worth 3/4 digits, but not by EOY, more like within the next decade.
These people are ruining these newfags' lives' by convincing them their measly 1-2k stacks will be enough to retire on???

>>25919127

>>25919215
>>25919127
Your image can similarly be applied the other way around too, just so you know

>>25919204
There is no guarantee in anything, don't invest in xrp thinking you are gurrenteed anything. but if you understand what XRP is and what it is going to do you can see that 2k is easy to achieve and pass by.
it won't be a gradual rise, it will be a sharp rise from 20 cents to 2k.

>>25919278
>forks your path

>>25919242
yeah you would be wrong and a Pharisee, you do realize the ones telling him to shut up were a bunch of greasy pedos.

so is Lagarde warning of Bitcoin regulation the news of today and what we were warned of?

>>25919278
Right, all my XRP can go to 0 and my life won't change. But as I've said several times before, the utility is there, the international relationships are being built (and though not huge, would result in massive international lawsuits in case of a fork), and it's insanely cheap to use.

>>25919278
The sharp rise theory comes from riddlers.

Rate this freshly made meme I just made.

>>25918740
Based schizo eyes, literally perfect. This is coming from a non weebcoomer though so others might have gripes

>>25919369
she's a globalist, they don't want people suddenly being wealthy outside of the central banks control.

regulations and kyc and labeling people terrorist for transacting for more than 3000$ is a form of control.

the leftard globalist think they are winning so they try to use xrp for evil purposes, not realizing they have fallen into a trap.

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>>25919546

based

>>25919474
I can see the light

So how does a derivatives transaction work?

Let’s take a very basic interest rate swap. I’m paying a floating rate (day, SOFR + 1%) on my $100 loan and I want to hedge against rates going up, so I’ll buy a $100 fixed for float swap. I will pay the bank a fixed rate (this locks in a constant cost) and they will pay me a floating rate equal to the floating rate on my loan. This ensures that even if rates go up, my costs are already known and my loan will continue to be paid. 6 month tenor, monthly payment dates.

What does that mean in practice:
- will sign a contract
- enter into the transaction
- lets also assume we agree collateral will be applicable.

On day 1, I will pay the fixed rate of [x]% and the bank will pay me the floating rate of SOFR + 1%.

On each subsequent payment date (monthly) I will pay you the fixes and bank will pay me the float.

At the end of the contract, the final payment will be made and we’ll be done.

Note: at no point did we exchange the 100m notional. The only exchanges were the monthly payments.

For collateral: Essentially, if we were to enter into a swap on identical terms today (T+1), what would it cost? What is the difference in that cost vs. the cost of our swap? If rates have moved in my favour, it would have been more expensive for me to enter into the trade on T+1. This is the mark to market. Bank will pay me collateral representing the MTM, as surety against bank defaulting (because if they default, that’s the extra cost I have to bear to replace the trade). At no point are we exchanging the full 100mn of the original notional (unless rates go completely haywire).

1/2

>>25919580
I wanna make more creepy troll XRP memes, I think is just perfect, but I don't have any ideas at the moment.

>>25919668
2/2

Some numbers:

The mark to market on derivatives hovers between $2.5-3trn

Collateral collected on this is at least $1.8trn (~$1.4trn in cash and ~$0.4 in securities)

So as far as collateral, those are the numbers we’d be dealing with (not “640trn”)

(2019 figures)

So when someone says XRP will be used for derivatives, it indicates that they have. No idea how derivatives work. All they are is a series of payments.

You could tokenise the collateral, but that would affect liquidity if you used XRP for it (as collateral can’t always be rehypothecated (reused), so a portion of it will just be sitting in segregated accounts).

You could use blockchain for smart contracts (see ISDA and R3 - whatever ISDA use will be the standard). But again, would XRP itself be used for that? I suspect you’ll have a ‘feeless’ but permissioned chain - open to ISDA members but free to use (no cost for contracts) once you have access.

XRP is after bank to bank transfers and that already includes derivatives.

I'm betting shit tons of money that

Ripple will win the lawsuit
It will not be forked
It will see institutional implementation
It will become the standard


Ladies and gents I just painted by balls silver because I truly have balls of steel

GLOWNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

IS XRP SAFE FROM GLOWNIGGERS?

I think the fork FUD is a midwit one btw

Fuck XRP

>>25918860
Lol. My guy, if this shit doesnt moon, an asylum is the first place ill run to for solace. This or nothing desu

>>25919799
>300% return
Could've just bought LINK and beat that, kek

>>25919699
derivatives is unlimited, its not 2.5-3T$
its in the quadrillions.

and this is where Flare comes in, originally was going to be Codius.

XRP is after banks nostro\vostro accounts and couldn't care less about banks. XRP allows you to do your entire banking on the ledger itself, you can sideskirt banks all together if it becomes the standard. banks will have to adapt or die. they will need to provide you security and good interests that you wouldn't be able to get if you held your xrp yourself.

the type of banking you see today will not exist any longer.

>>25919711
>>25919785

What fork fud? What new nonsense is this?

>>25919517
I like that image, thanks for sharing

I always assumed Lagarde was on the XRP gravy train though with being pally with Brad?

>>25919315
cant fork a community/network of banks, institutions and countries

>>25919907
XRP also provides real time payments, this means your employer can pay you in real time after you clock out same day rather than weekly if you set it up that way.

this would create new business where part time gigs and jobs can pay you in real time.

Imagine ladarde bursting into your bedroom with armed guards, and forcing you at gunpoint to perform cunnilingus on her. HOT.

>>25919907
>derivatives is unlimited, its not 2.5-3T$ its in the quadrillions.
I... I typed all that out (admittedly a while ago and just copy pasted, but still)... and that’s your reply? Are you retarded?

The notional value is quadrillions. Not the Mark to market (which is what matters) is (according to 2019 figures from ISDA), $2.5-3trn.

Please kys. Please.

Please moon, I need to create my home gym already.

>>25919907
>>25919997
(1) XRP is not replacing banks. It’s looking to work with them.
(2) you’re again just talking about bank to bank transfers. The same day payments will still be made by banks - they’ll just use XRP to do it.

>>25919926
I don't know, it seemingly came from nowhere. I never miss a thread and will scroll through archived ones I slept through and it just popped up and got ran with

>>25919935
laggard is a globalist and wants you out.

>>25919997
Real time payments would fuck so many dummies and young people. They'd get right off work and CONSOOM all of their day's pay. They'd end up never having money

>>25920135
wants me out of XRP by fudding BTC? Not sure thats going to hit the mark?

My money is on all of xrps potential

But if I had to bet with one of the fags here on whether there'd be a fork, I would bet twice what they would.

Faggots is what they are.

>>25920102
Yep, defending to the death a hypothetical. Got a little crazy.

>>25920141

so nothing would change?

>>25920064
I didn't say xrp will be replacing banks, read what i said.

XRP can replace banks, so banks will have to adapt or die.

> Another meme date bites the dust.

At what point will people stop giving these larpfags attention? Nothing major will happen until the SEC trial is over. The first hearing (which is just discovery) isn't for another five weeks.

>>25920194
We had a whole thread yesterday on women good vs women bad.
So long as they’re properly argued, I’m happy with hypotheticals that actually relate to XRP (however likely they are to happen).

Do you guys think the XRP price will drop on the 15th? I wanna buy some more at cheap prices.

>>25920163
she's not fudding bitcoin, she wants it regulated and under their total control so that random millionaires aren't created out of the slave population, Bitcoin is already regulated in the United States, this is why companies and hedge funds put money into it.

>>25920243
Well, there's one less at least. Account removed.

https://twitter.com/3libloushiii1

>>25919546
based

>>25920208
Getting paid right away they'd probably buy fastfood and weed/alcohol on the way home constantly where as with the 2 week system they can atleast be broke until payday and then use it on the monthly bills

>>25919715
plz respond

Essentially human history is one of consistent manipulation by the surviving 'elites' or 'chosen' of one 'human' kind (bunker dwellers who preserved knowledge and experience, went through various evolutionary/devolutionary processes) who continuously use each cycle of human history to maintain and advance who they are, and of course are constantly locked in conflict with each other for total domination of the entire planet and human kind while maintaining their position.
Take it as truth or hooey if you will, because it provides one kind of explanation regarding all the mythologies and mechanisms used to operate by certain types of people to run the world.
children of cronus, one type of bunker dwelling man who is by product and off spring of bunker dwellers, whether by blood or by adherence to cronus's will and teachings, believe in control/manipulation, and all the devolved characteristics inherent in such way of life. Children of zeus aka the other more 'positive' or at least less 'vile' of the bunker dwelling sort, "aryans" whom are of course another types of human beings who dwelt on the surface as civilization builders and survivors, and now other two races such as asiatics and africans, are all in oppostion to children of cronus, united in purpose to preserve and advance our way of life.
followers and those with the vile bunker dweller's lineage largely adhere to subversive, manipulative way of life as codified by 'cronus' aka giant LARP from one particular 'vile' highly evolved or devolved human being to come out of the bunker/underground sanctuary that kept them alive through last catacylsm.
Germanic, celtic/gaelic peoples, and all other peoples of the world are free men and women who seek to forge our own paths and retain/advance our freedom away from parasitic followers of cronus and break the cycle of enslavement.

>>25920315
so do you expect bitcoin to reach new highs then? Im of the opinion its days are numbered

>>25920310
God, I hope so. I need one last aCOOMulation at low prices so I can offset the enormous taxes that Biden will implement

>>25920310
Maybe. I would think there would be a larger dip in the days before the coinbase delisting.

>>25920388
yes but imagine this, uber for example will pay you at the end of the day for your job rather than after a week.

Friend of mine saying he worked really hard to become a US Citizen, now all he wants is to no longer be one kek

>>25920428
im expecting bitcoin to crash after tether lawsuit btfo tether.

Let's continue.

Before the the complete domination of the Germannic tribes, Cronus had the problem of ruling the world with few people. However, Cronus had the advantage of knowledge on his side. When the other bunker dwellers refused to share their technology with the surface dwellers, Cronus took it upon himself to promote science and technology among the backward people on the surface.

Then, to dominate a field, Cronus only need ensure that Jews be the first to OCCUPY THE FIELD - WHILE PUSHING ALL OTHER COMPETITION OUT FROM THE FIELD.

1) From 2000 B.C. to 500 A.D. - The Jews dominated trade by controlling the Levant - the lynchpin in the trade route between the East and the West.

2) From 300 A.D. to 18th Century - the Jews dominated religion through their control of the Papacy and thus Christianity.

3) From the 14th century to WW2 - Jews controlled warfare through elaborate Banking and Money lending mechanisms.

4) From 1850s onwards - Jews dominated Physics and Chemistry to RULE ATOMIC PHYSICS AND HARNESS THE POWER OF THE ATOM.

5) From 1950s onwards - Jews have controlled media, Hollywood, the Internet and the Computer industry to harness the power of information.

THAT IS THE CURSE OF CRONUS ON THE JEWS - THEY ARE FOREVER DESTINED TO DOMINATE NEW AREAS OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD - AND PUSH OUT ALL OTHER RACES FROM GAINING KNOWLEDGE THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY - TO ENSURE THE DOMINANCE OF CRONUS ON EARTH.

>>25920231
You said:
(1) derivatives are unlimited. Retarded
(2) XRP can replace banks. A burlap sack and a properly trained carrier pigeon could replace banks. But it won’t. Same with XRP - the notion that banking yourself, rather than that just using a bank (free to use, insured, spends millions on security) is ever going to take off is fanciful. Banks don’t need to adapt. They’ll be using XRP too (for bank to bank payments), which means they’ll be doing virtually everything you can do yourself (you transfer money from your account to a freind’s) in seconds.

You also assume that bankin will use XRP. It won’t. We (or rather people in general, if not this specific forum) will continue to use fiat or soon, digital fiat. XRP isn’t meant for use by retail. Banks don’t have to compete with what you do with your XRP because that’s not really what they or the vast majority of their customers use it for.

So I know rich fucks voted Biden in, how the fuck are these fags avoiding taxes if these don't seem to affect them?

>>25920532
>25920532
we're on the same page then. So with the scenario theres no risk of the slave population become accidental millionaires, so why the regulation rhetoric?

Happy New year... January 13th
But I'm still hoping for something to happen today...
but I don't think it will

today is Hurry up and wait...

>>25920489
Don't get me wrong, getting paid at the end of the day is much superior if you're not a retard. My girlfriend works weekends as waitress and gets 100+ dollars every time she clocks out. makes life much easier incase something stupid comes up that needs financial attention right away

>>25920553
By the way what is your response to XRP forks being unlikely given that third parties and nodes are holding XRP?

>>25918740
Cute, love the hat of Alum and the transcendental eyes
>I like those "too big" shirts

>>25920649
Third party projects working with XRP and nodes are holding XRP

>>25920562
Rich enough to pay jews that know how to game the system

>>25920553
>derivatives are unlimited. Retarded
there is no limit to the derivative market, its literally unlimited. there is a cap today because the financial system doesn't benefit everything being a part of a derivative, a lot of things are excluded from the market including 3 billion people.

>XRP can replace banks. A burlap sack and a properly trained carrier pigeon could replace banks. But it won’t. Same with XRP - the notion that banking yourself, rather than that just using a bank (free to use, insured, spends millions on security) is ever going to take off is fanciful. Banks don’t need to adapt. They’ll be using XRP too (for bank to bank payments), which means they’ll be doing virtually everything you can do yourself (you transfer money from your account to a freind’s) in seconds.

Wrong, Banks will adapt or die. You are confusing something here. first of all Look into XUMM, which allows you to be your own bank. and 2nd the banks of today are not equal, smaller banks are beholden to larger banks. in a level playing field, I can compete with the banks and the smaller banks can compete with the larger banks. Banks will need to adapt to the new system or die. I myself can loan money and earn interest and do the same thing a bank could do. so why the need for a bank? banks will need to adopt more incentives to gain customers or they will simply not exist. simple as that.

>>25920592
regulation is a way to legitimize a space for the big money.

>>25920562
Anon, do you think Biden is planning on raising taxes to 100% or something? They can afford to pay more taxes, they've spent the last decade accumulating wealth and that not money that's going away unless you live in California and have your taxhike applied retroactively

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/owner-bitcoin-exchange-sentenced-prison-money-laundering

>>25920649
I think it’s very unlikely because it’s pointless. But that’s not because of third parties and nodes necessarily (would they have a say over a fork?)
They could easily achieve the benefits of a forked currency in other ways (having banks/professional investors use non-retail exchanges, which is exactly what they’d have to do with a forked ccy anyway)
I also think there is reputational risk (a real concern for banks, whether you believe it or not) in the press that might follow. Looking at the number of blacks commenting on baba’s Twitter should reinforce that point - they can’t just paint it in the media as “the alt-right got fucked”.

I argued last thread about why it would be beneficial for banks (it inescapably would be - it would allow them to essentially perfect the system), because I’m not so fucking weak handed that I’m afraid to consider risks (and also, I don’t like seeing shit logic, so will challenge that even if I ultimately agree with the overall point).

>>25920640
im not saying every business would operate like this but small gigs and part time jobs could do this. or you could set it up where a portion of your pay can be paid same day and the rest saved up for the week.

>>25920550
Oy vey, it's anotha shoah

>>25920442
Imagine paying taxes

When did XSG get so boring. It just become autists arguing about finance. Give me some lizard people, mushroom chat, and inter-trans-dimensional energy vampire theories RIGHT NOW

>>25921040
Those people left after the 22/12

>>25921040
no butch, we're not making it a sunday-school, go start XCG for that,
but indeed real schizo shit should be posted more

>>25920550
jews aren't smarter than any other race, in actuality they are dumber. everything the jews were claimed to come up with was stolen or bought through patent trolling.

>>25921040
ok, new thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAAhzreGWw

>>25921107

How many zerps to have skin like this?

>>25918740

>Bigger chest

REEEE

>>25920894
> there is no limit to the derivative market
The current size of the market is $2.5-3trn. Yes, you are (in a retarded way) right - technically that can grow to a larger size. But by that logic every market is unlimited.
The blowjobs by your mom market is unlimited. It’s currently worth $3.50 but is can grow to any size.

>3bn people excluded.
It’s more than that. That’s a good thing. What the fuck do they have to hedge? You realise that they will also regulate to stop crypto derivatives right?

>which allows you to be your own bank
You have no idea how much this makes me cringe.
Let’s agree to disagree. I’m done here.

So I just told a friend to buy from Uphold, he hasn't withdrawn yet.

And I'm still stuck with Uphold closing my account and blocking the transfer of $500 worth of zerps.

Fuck. I hope this doesn't happen with my friend also or he'll hate me.

>>25921242
>I’m done here
I find that hard to believe buckaroo

>>25921040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvaxaxQX7_8

>>25921314
:)

>>25921040
Number is being boring too and not moving.

>>25921382

It's really tiring how many old books perfectly describe what's happening but nobody reads so it doesn't matter.

>>25921482
That's such a great book but the movie is such a shitshow. It's a fun shitshow but it's a shitshow none the less.

>>25921040
I'll take this over Qtards posting their latest cope and larp.

Will xrp take me out of my crappy reality
I think I ODed on cbd

Who's ready for $3K EOY?

>>25920410
never thought to conceptualize it like this, but that makes perfect sense. whether literal or allegorical it makes sense and thats scary but hopeful at the same time

>>25921642
just eat shit-loads of sweets and drink loads of sodie-pop/ fruit-juice if you took too much drugs
>Ye fukken druggo

>>25918740
use the xrp logo not ripple's logo.

>>25921558

Even older video games knew what was up.

>>25919699
>So when someone says XRP will be used for derivatives, it indicates that they have. No idea how derivatives work. All they are is a series of payments.

Fx markets include...
Nice fud though

>>25918653
not even noon est fren be patient

>>25921797
I think that's from Pondsmith's Cyberpunk ttg, but yeah the writing has been on the wall for a while

>>25921797
this is from a PnP RPG ding dong

>>25921242
Do you understand how customers can interact with ledgers? I will concede that a lot of the people who are used to classical banking will stick with it, but for the rest of us it seems unlikely. Why would you want jews getting rich off of your money when you could do their job with a few clicks?

>>25919546
Never stop posting this

what will happen to the price after jan 19th?

>>25921585
Its not a larp and you will rope yourself, but you will not have the integrity to go along with it or admit you were wrong. seethe more

>>25919023
If you're not here for schizo shit then gtfo. This place isn't for you. Leave.

>>25922013
Number might go up, number might go down, number might stay the same

>>25922100
digits of truth

>>25921797
At this point who wouldn’t welcome the freedom of anarchy? No more kowtowing to niggers, no more pandering to invaders with 70-80 iq who only seek to be leeches or worse, no more forgiving rapists and murderers because they are non-white, no more jewish pedos in power...
Just collapse it all so it can be rebuilt, better.

Lost $500, but at least I understand why it's called up HOLD
lmaooo

>>25918567

When does spark launch and when do I get my free gibs?

>>25922041
I will absolutely admit I'm wrong and post an apology to any and every qfaggot in this thread if I'm wrong. The problem is you won't do the same. We're already starting to see the new cope and larp on /pol/, where even when Biden is sworn in he's not the real President and Trump is running things in some underground secret bunker. You'll just buy into the new story thats sold to you and shill for the moved goalposts. Because that's what you people do.

>>25921902
>>25921892

Didn't mean to type video in there, force of habit.

>>25922279
based and think-for-yourself pilled

>>25922279

based

>>25922230
Buddy of mine just told me spark tokens were trading at a whopping $.14 each a couple days ago.

>>25921482
fuckin based

>>25922279
Apocalypse cults don't dissolve after the supposed day of reckoning. The date simply moves forward. I wonder if XRP will be like that! I hope not, because I just bought in.

>>25922279
based

>>25922378
Dumbfucks and pajeets, but I repeat myself, were selling IOUs at upwards of a dollar / spark a few weeks ago. Fucking pump and dump retail minded faggots.

>>25922279
not going to happen buddy, biden will never be sworn in, he will never step foot on the Whitehouse lawn.

>>25922279
Stop paying attention to the news and pay attention to the energy around you. We have won. Light previals, always.

>>25921809
And what does an FX derivative look like, you retard?

30 day FX Swap:
A spot trade at T (£100mn for $120)
A Forward trade settling T+30 for (£100 vs. $125).

That’s it. Once again, just a series of payments.

In this case though, you can split into two:

For deliverable FX, the notional (the full spot 100/120 as well as the forward 100/125mn would be relevant for XRP because that will be transferred, albeit on different dates).

For non-deliverable FX, only the difference is transferred (generally em ccies but I’ll assume the above trade is non deliverable for ease)
In this case, it’ll be $5mn.

For collateral and risk purposes: What’s the Mark to Market on the FX markets? It’s the shift away from the forward prices. So if the trade falls away (you went insolvent for example), and I had to enter into a replacement trade today, how much extra would it cost? (To lock in the £100 for $125 forward price). That’s my exposure.

So how does this all apply to XRP?
Again: it’s all just bank to bank transfers (that lovely $22trn cross border payments per day)

Don’t know the figure for the FX derivatives market, but it’s not 6.6trn - the 6.6trn is all FX (I owe you dollars on our interest rate swap, but I fund in GBP, so I first trade for $ (an FX trade), then make the payment (a derivative payment)).

Are people really that ignorant of how derivatives work?

Your stupidity is Fud.

Remind me why I would want a hyper inflating piece of paper again that can be created out of thin air and it's only use is fuel for fires?

>>25922497
>>25922378


Where the fuck do I find recent info about spark, flare, etc? Google only shows 1 or 2 month old shit.

>>25922378
I would shit myself if Spark was that high when it officially drops. I’m expecting sub .01.

>>25919907
Yet can beat DEFI and God LINK. XRP fags get BTFO

>>25922279
True
Try telling them that though, they dont even see their own inconsistencies.
There was a moment a few months ago where I actually started to believe in it but then I remembered;
In 2016 they were saying that if trump won he would arrest hillary clinton. That didnt happen.
I also remember them saying they would do the same with bill clinton, said he would drain the swamp etc. None of these things happened.
Trump running things behind the scenes is the logical (illogical) conclusion they will come to and I think you are 100% right on that.

>>25921932
What will they do on the ledger?
(1) Get a loan?
(2) A credit card?
(3) Insurance?
(4) mortgage?

In the case of (1): what are the rates you are offering vs what banks can offer (given their funding rates are far lower than yours). How much do you actually have to loan? Lending is a regulated activity in most countries - are you regulated? (That’s aside from the fact that right now - today - you can lend money. Why aren’t you doing it? There are crowd lending platforms today - why aren’t they killing banks?)

In the case of (2): are you really going to take on that risk? Do you know ho expensive it would be to go after someone for non-payment? Also regulation.

(3): regulation. Capital requirements. Who is taking insurance from you (with presumably little backing vs a proper insurer (with huge reserves).

(4): do you have that much to lend? See (1)

You could do all these things today. It’s been tried. It doesn’t work.

>>25922590
Because it can get you these new shoes that your favorite celeb made, goy

>>25922717
you are so fucking retarded, if he arrested Hilary in 2016 then the sheep would still be asleep. no one would understand the grand picture of what was at stake, just some politician getting arrested and business as usual, go back to farting and watching sports.

>>25918740
wow i already want to fuk her.

>>25922879
fuck a real woman first KEK

>>25921752
Bix nood these digits, muhfuh.

>>25918800
Lol. I am being called a professional fudster now am I? Ive been around for 400ish XSGs and ive been the OOOOOOOOOOOOO poster in probably 100+ threads. All I did last thread was bring up the possibility that XRP could be forked, because from a technical point of view it would save the banks the nuisance of trillions dollars of buybacks and really, there wouldn't any issue for them to do this other than potentially forgoing their "karmic debt" modus operandi. People seem to forget that XRPL is the real tech. XRP is just a blockchain with a name attached to it. I am considering the possibility of a fork about 50/50 and hell, ill take those odds, its the best odds we're ever going to get.

>>25923264
There is no fork, stop with your retarded fud

>>25923110
>3dpd
>>>/facebook/

holy shit guys did you see the new trailer for the new super avengers hero x man trailer?

>>25923264
Well, the issue with debt, that is, governments holding it and the price increases in order to pay their debt is a pretty big deal friend

Odds are much lower than 50

"Only by being initiated as the servant of god can one enter into the temple as the "living servant of Ra" in order to see all forms of the god and all secret things.
The purpose of this initiation consists in seeing the deity that is in gazing at the image of the god. The watcher is to be united with the god's ba(manifestation, godlike radiance) in the tremendous contemplation of the divine truth and beauty.

...


The true divine madness is to be equated with the "one of the soul", the henadic summit of one's psychic and noetic topography by means of which the theurgist is united with the One. Through the divine maniani be it "prophetic madness according to truth" erotic madness according to beauty" or "poetical madness according to divine symmetry"- the philosopher's soul is linked to the gods, and "this form of life is that of the ultimate mystical experience of the ultimate unification"

pg 36,
orpheous and the roots of platonism"

>>25923318
>There is no fork
How do you know, are you an insider? Not to mention, how is it even fud, im only bringing up the possibility, which does exist. Do you have anything to offer other than low effort buzzwords?

>>25923264
I love XRP and I am stacking bags up on baggies, however the possibility of a bank creating their own xrp style crypto using the open source code is literally my only fear.

>>25918653
why do you guys believe in baba cugs? he is obviously a 13 year old larperl, everyday he changes his guesses

>>25922516
you buy into the antichrist stuff? Trump to return on the 20th?

>>25923264
>I am considering the possibility of a fork about 50/50 and hell, ill take those odds, its the best odds we're ever going to get.
I don’t care who you claim to be, a fork is never going to happen. Not in the way you are describing, at least.

>>25923393
people tried that with BTC with countless forks. see who is still the king

>>25923264
You’ve been here long enough to know fren: XSG is a broad church. Some are too weak handed (or just plain stupid) to handle anything they can’t understand or that makes them scared.

Carry on doing what you’re doing.

WAGMI

>>25919098
karma will get you

Theres somebody in my city with a job posting online that basically just says she buys eth. Please post your most convincing 2k eoy theory so i can send it in response

>>25923377
I explained in the last thread goldfish brain, this is what fudniggers do, they bring up a retarded topic out of their ass with no proof and when it gets btfo they post the same exact shit in the next thread as if nothing ever happened.

they put the burden on proof on you to explain why its not a retarded fud rather than them explaining why they believe its going to happen. just shut the fuck up nigger

>>25921797
Bigger one not for ants ;)

>>25922279
Already wondering if it's better to throw away the MAGA hats or burn them. This division is batshit crazy on both sides, and the only solution will be to not come into contact with other people.

>>25923631
where is this from

>>25923557
>with no proof
Are you genuinely retarded or just pretending to be? What proof are you looking for exactly? All I've seen you do in 2 threads now is spam buzzwords. I am saying: "they could consider to .... in the future" and you're asking "muh proof kys retard". I've seen you provide absolutely no arguments whatsoever, like literally none at all. Name 1 argument then, just 1.

>>25923671
>>25921892
>>25921902
From earlier in the thread. The image search came up with "cyberpunk 2020 madqueen"

>>25923393
I said it quite late in the last thread:
Whatever else you might believe, look at the price. If this was a sure thing, we wouldn’t be at 0.29.
There are plenty of risks and yes - that’s one of the biggest ones.
Like you though - I’m stacking and betting we pull through because the potential upside is huge.

Hell - even if they do fork, there’s a chance we make it with plan B: kill ETH, conquer ERC20, own Defi through flare.

It’ll take longer, but it’s still a solid moon chance, especially stacking at these prices.

Guys this is our last chance to accoooomulate OMG

>binance delisting occurs
>price doesn't move one mm

>>25922647
>>25922378

>>25923743
binance.US has almost no xrp volume. dont confuse with real binance

>>25922516
>>25922542

>>25923739
If you think it's going to $2k, and next week it goes to $1, you still haven't missed your chance, only a better chance.

>>25923699
>they could
so you are pulling shit out your ass, why say they could. ripple could buy a nuclear weapon and fire it at china, ripple could start space program. ripple could run off with the money. There are a lot of things that Could happen but not a lot of things that Will happen. Fuck off already you fucking idiot

and don't you fucking talk about no argument you absolute fucking NIGGER! i fucking btfo your stupid lame ass argument last thread now you want to act like it never happened. typical dumb shit fudnigger

>>25923839
I think 90% of XRP trading by volume happens outside of the US. Really, the delisting/halting isnt going to hurt much other than through panic.

>>25923818
Lets be real. They're only giving it out in small percents because XRP will have Mooned by then.

>>25923869
Keep posting this until the day you rope yourself.

>>25922647
it has been at 16-18 cents the whole week
>only IOU's on Bitrue, so heavily speculatory at restricted volumes

>>25923898
>i fucking btfo your stupid lame ass argument last thread
Where?
>so you are pulling shit out your ass
I am not an insider, so all I can do is speculate. Are you an insider? I am just basing my opinion on the fact that I am a developer for a payment service processor so I understand the tech and I have some amount of understanding of the financial world.

>>25923897
It's already had the effect, the price of xrp is like 10-20% of what it had been if the price rose similar to other coins

>>25923907
No. That is not what is happening. Spark is being released at 0.00 USD to benefit the airdrop participants. Airdrops are taxable income, so by releasing at 0 USD there is no taxable income participants are responsible for. The slow release is to maximize participation and reduce the retail pump and dump faggots. That's also why Flare Finance is opt in rather than automatic for Spark holders.

Fanfiction is not needed for the success of either XRP or Flare.

>>25923933
I won't, but you might on the day you realize that your useful idiot status is what handed this country over to the very people you rail about.

>>25923699
Genuinely mate - leave it. It’s not worth it.
There is no argument against it. It could (“could being the operative word) happen. You’re arguing with an idiot who’ll offer you no substantial rationale against.

I was arguing last thread why a fork would benefit banks. As I’ve mentioned though, I think it’s unlikely because it’s unnecessary - why fork when you could achieve the same in other ways? I know you’re not necessarily arguing for a fork as a real possibility, but the ultimate answer is:
Nobody knows what will happen. Fork is possible. That possibility is on a spectrum of probably 10% to 80%. Decide where you sit and act from there - you’re not going to get much sense from the like of that guy if you want help with that decision - it’s all on you.

>>25924021
I am a coomer and speculating that ripple will release their own luxury garloid range that will totally upend the sex toy market

>>25924022
10-20% down? That’s pretty fine for 10% of the market potentially being cut out, right?

>>25922836
there is no grand picture with trump
His job is done in making the right look bad now hes fecked off to miami to live his days in comfort whilst we have our rights taken away

>>25924021
I test meth for the u.s. military and have a major in game theory and schizonomics.

>>25924021
>Where?
last thread dipshit

>so all I can do is speculate.
so you are pulling shit out your ass and creating unnecessary fud. You have no proof or evidence about a fork, the only source for a fork is you.

>I am just basing my opinion on the fact that I am a developer for a payment service processor so I understand the tech and I have some amount of understanding of the financial world.
so you are pulling shit out your ass and are fudding your competitor.

>>25924204
wrong you stupid fucking moronic idiot, do you honestly believe the left will just let him go back to playing golf and enjoy his business? they want to murder his family and set an example of him. Trump knew what he was getting into when he signed up to become president.

in the next coming days a lot of things are about to go down. the president is insulated and the military is in control.

Are my fellow schizos all in xrp or diversifying? Trying to decide what other coins to invest in, is LINK really going to be successful? Also SNX been going up steadily but sold my 7$ position and feel retarded for it, not sure if it's gonna keep going at this rate or slow down soon. Was also thinking VET/RSR for cheap ones to get in early. And GRT already gave me a 4x so I've got my eye on it although hasn't been doing. Too hot lately. And also thinking of getting XLM since that's part of every schizos stack

>>25920595
Nothing will

>>25924178
You're misunderstanding. The price of crop is currently 30 cent, it should be 2-3 dollar if it saw similar price development to bitcoin, eth and other coins. This low price is because the SEC is using ripple and some exchanges announced it was going to be delisted. It's assumed that the sec lawsuit is going to be negative for ripple and it's not getting delisted, hence the low price.

>>25924406
All in XRP.
I have a couple of grand ready for XRPUP when moon starts (if I can catch it)

>>25924109
Here's my opinion on the subject. There are some signs that a fork may not happen.
1: Exchanges delisting. Why would they do this if there's no legal grounds? XRP hasn't been declared a security yet so exchanges could keep on trading, at least for the time being. The SEC lawsuit is shaky at best so they'll end up winning most likely. When I say "win" I really mean they'll probably settle or the lawsuit will be dismissed instead. Otherwise the lawsuit could in fact take years and I don't think that's going to happen.
2: unironically karmic debt relief
Arguments in favor of a fork
1: Retailers provide no value to the network. It isn't made for them and retailers have been beta testers. So that immediately explains why retailers were allowed to make use of the system until this point.
2: Buying all the xerpies back from retailers will not only be incredibly expensive but also very inconvenient. "P-please j-just sell us your bag". You can just outright bypass the retailers altogether.

The primary reason I still hold XRP is because the timing of the lawsuit is very suspicious and also pic related.

>>25924364
HAHAHA
You call me the moron? Yes they will let him.
Its all a fucking show how dense are you?
He played his role in destabalising america and painting the right as retarded and how they bring order in with a left wing bias with biden and harris
That is how they work. Trump will have some televised thing about being impeached but it wont go through, he will be acquitted of all charges and he will disappear from public life.
There is nobody coming to save you. Sooner you realise that the better.

>>25924500
Fair enough. You’re right.
C’est la vie

>>25924536
*now

>>25924406
>diversifying
Diversification into other ISO coins and other cryptocurrency has always been recommended in thread.

>>25924364
They can at worst impeach him and remove him from office. After that he will leave the country and become a McAffee type character

>>25924536
goddamn you are like cattle to me, too stupid to live for your own good.

>>25924510
Right, full on delisting is more likely than a fork. We've already started down the delisting road. Why bother forking if people can't buy in the first place?

>>25924282
>last thread dipshit
Still can't quote me anything
>You have no proof or evidence about a fork
lmao, you have the reading comprehension skills of a teenager or worse. I am just not sure at this point if you're trolling me, yourself, or the thread. You are unironically the biggest FUD in this thread so far.
>so you are pulling shit out your ass and are fudding your competitor.
competitor? Mate I have an 80k bag which I am taking to the grave.

MOOOOONNN AAAAAH

I'M TIRED OF BEING A WAGIE

>>25924581
they can't impeach him if he already signed over his presidency to the military.
the insurrection act has been signed.

brainlet here, can I get a rundown on where we are at with Flare/ am I going to get some if I had my shit in Coinbase on the date without registering

>>25924597
>hur dur im going to make accusations i can't back up and its on you to prove it

Fuck off you piece of shit, you are projecting so hard.

You will suffer karmic retribution for deceiving others.

>>25924587
Yeah keep thinking you know everything.
The true cattle of all of this is the magatards that think some e-larp about muh qanon is legitimate.
Idk how you cant see how its all a fucking show. Do you have nothing else in your life to be happy about? You need to believe in this in order to have purpose?
I really pity people like you. There are much grander things happening than donald trump and qlarp. Much grander things.
I hope you see this soon.

Why does Uphold love tweeting about the price of xrp?
>What price do you think xrp will reach this year?
https://twitter.com/UpholdInc/status/1349401456227573762?s=20
also pic related

>>25924510
retailers DO provide value to the network.

XRP as is has massive value due to its market position. 3rd in market cap, available around the world on a variety of exchanges, used on a variety of platforms for settlement like Coil, OD with mgi, etc. That means it's actively tradable and trading across many different assets, with many different stakeholders. It also has a growing name recognition and ecosystem available to the public.

retail gives access to assets and currencies financial institutions would otherwise not want to hold. especially with flare around the corner, and talks to possibily include liquidity pools on the DEX where users can stake their xrp for liquidity, retail would provide more value than ever.

retail would give XRP a lot more wide acceptability and credibility. simply forking to its own private coin would not just kill its brand/trust, but remove the biggest value when it comes to XRP being convertible to anything* including what retail owns. I never believed in buyback theory since I recognize retail value.

>>25923869
I don't think you understand. I'll tell you again, light prevails.

>>25924704
2 weeks

I am completely new to crypto. I tried watching the flare/spark vids in the OP but to be honest it all went over my head.

What is the investment case for XRM?

>>25924716
They stole $500, they're absolutely plotting an exit scam

>>25924723
Sure, on the cosmic scale. That's not what we're looking at right now, though.

I feel like I ODd on CBD

>>25924768
2k eoy

>>25924536
imagine thinking we need saving when the literal prime mover is on our side. Get it through your thick skull you tranny, WE WIN.

>>25924768
>What is the investment case for XRM?
Wrong thread.

>I tried watching the flare/spark vids in the OP but to be honest it all went over my head.
Watch them again. Study them. It's not a Marvel movie you can watch and snapchat with your Fornite buddies. You're going to have to learn.

>>25924804
On a cosmic scale, darkness and heat death prevails. Ultimate end-level entropy.

>>25924705
blackpilled niggers like you think they know everything, everyone else is dumb but you have it all figured out. hur dur muh larp hur dur

you are a cynical piece of shit that will never achieve anything in life worth shit. you will forever be cattle to those above you instead of standing up like a man. the jews might use you like cattle but when you stand up to them and call them out they actually respect you. they don't respect cattle like you and support them.
You are like an NPC drifting in life wasting oxygen until the day you die, while you are cowering in fear like some farm animal who wants to live being fed sludge by their masters im going to live like man and trust my fellow human beings.

>>25924704
>make accusations i can't back up
What accusations? So far I've not accused anyone of anything, other than you have the reading comprehension skills of a disabled teenager. Please let me know which accusation you are referring to though.
>You will suffer karmic retribution for deceiving others.
Deceiving? Please do let me know what deception you're referring to.

>>25924510
Well...
>1: Exchanges delisting
This is to be expected. There is actually legal risk right now. If they keep going for long after they’ve had notice that the SEC thinks it’s a security, they may be open to suits (as we’ve already seen for Coinbase).
That doesn’t mean they’re fucked. It just means there’s a risk. And companies will make decisions based on the level of legal risk they’re comfortable with. Delisting/suspending is therefore not really something to overthink.

>2: unironically karmic debt relief
We can agree to disagree on that.

> 1: Retailers provide no value to the network
True. But they can cut retail out in other ways. Forking isn’t necessary. It’s also not necessarily in the ripple decision makers’ interests as if banks are onboard with a fork, they’d likely question why Brad and co should get billions in the new ccy.

>2: Buying all the xerpies back
Again, a buyback isn’t necessary. If required/desired, they could easily cut us out without spending a Penny. Indeed - one of those ways - using non-retail exchanges would need to happen with a fork anyway.

I accept it’s a possibility and it would have benefits (better liquidity/stability/less aml/kyc/ctf concerns/not having to deal with the far more stringent regs involved in trading with retail).
Ultimately, the biggest argument against for me is that it’s not necessary. They can achieve all those benefits without forking (and the founders will retain their millions).

>>25924804
It's always the same story playing out. The characters may change but the narrative never does. The resolution of the picture you are trying to paint really doesn't matter.

>>25924773
>They stole $500, they're absolutely plotting an exit scam
how do you lose that fren?
also, what you said is so true
>I won't, but you might on the day you realize that your useful idiot status is what handed this country over to the very people you rail about.
that's all q is and ever was. imagine thinking a con artist commercial developer (owned by banks) has a master plan to take down the elite.

>>25924883
I'm not cynical. Like I said there are larger things happening than trump.
Brush up on reading comprehension please.
Also you can stop trying to act hard, makes you look insecure. I am not insecure I know how things work. I am also not the one getting angry and spouting hate about cattle and death and being a slave.
You'll figure it out eventually mate.

>>25924912
>What accusations?
how about your cuck post about a fork you can't back up, just throwing out fud out your ass.

Fucking hell how can someone be so damn dese and go through life having goldfish memory, you literally just posted in this very thread earlier.

>>25924912
Your stupid fud trying to scare people away so you can greedily take it all

>>25925027
So your insights of current affairs lead you to believe that everything happening is unconnected random happenstance? If not, why do you presume that Trump has nothing to do with it?

So much anger in xsg today. Everyone relax. Wagmi.

>>25925027
don't talk about eventually figuring shit out when you can't figure out your own asshole.

take the blackpill depository out your ass and swallow the GOD pill

>>25924879
What would be a better thread?

>You're going to have to learn.
I am willing but very little of it makes sense to me. Is there easier material? Or are those two videos gonna tell me everything?

>>25924627
Post pdf or get the fuck out.

>>25925168
An xmr thread

>>25925193
*Xrm, fuck

>>25925058
>Fucking hell how can someone be so damn dese and go through life having goldfish memory, you literally just posted in this very thread earlier.
Have you considered that you are talking to an AI bot? You should.

>>25925085
No Ive said the opposite. It is all connected but this idea that trump is on our side is fucking laughable.
He is a pied piper, a way for those who are dissatisfied with the system to let out their frustration but its directed at the wrong things.
This recent march for instance.
You'll find that the police let these people in to do what they did. In a capital building, with many important politicians deciding an election, add that with how much tension there is in america right now, there were hardly any police?
The little police that were there even let those people through the gate.
That man with the viking helmet and braveheart warpaint? A registered actor who has been spotted at many other events.
Look, I know it feels good thinking this particular group is going to change things but that is not what is happening. You are all being used as a tool to further the current agenda and make real alternatives look undesirable.
So to answer your question no, I absolutely believe its all connected but it is not for the reasons many think.

>>25925193
>>25925228
>>25924768
hahahaha fuck I meant XRP

>>25925176
government doesn't have to show you pdf of insurrection act being signed retard, it can be done in secret.

>>25918784
The closer we get to meme dates, the more tops I buy

t. Retard

>>25924966
>This is to be expected. There is actually legal risk right now.
Do you have a source for that? I am not a lawyer but the lawyers that I have seen talk about it suggested the opposite. Also logically it doesn't add up. So far all the SEC has done is make an allegation. Anyone can make an allegation. I could claim today that Microsoft is a front for an illegal drug operation. That doesn't mean they will be forced to shut down. The pending lawsuit you referred to is something similar. It's literally just a random guy who initiated the lawsuit asking "where's muh gibs". Not to mention, a swiss exchange also delisted XRP. Why would they? XRP is already deemed a currency is their own country. Doesn't add up.

>>25921382
This book made me buy silver.

>>25922758
flare finance is taking a stab bat 1, 3.

once more activities are on-ledger, risk assessment would be easy as pie, given a particular address has enough history. there could even be a smart contract for this.

once risk assessment and collateralization are in place, low-risk borrowers would pile in, creating a market for 1, 2.

4 could be done once RE ownership is tokenized and divisible. this would make foreclosure easier. however rates and down payment would probably be different than today.

stop sucking banker dick

Anyone know how to quickly turn $1000 into $4500? Missed GME calls and I’m strapped for powder to get another 15k xerps

>>25922279
qtards in fucking shambles

then again, the q mentality also applies to so many shitcoin bagholders lmao

>>25925511
Such a well kept secret that random anyone know about it.

>>25925058
>you literally just posted in this very thread earlier.
Except I never made any accusations. Other people have contributed to the thread whereas you havent. >>25924510 is a short summary of my statement. Notice other people replying with valid arguments? You keep regurgitating the same buzzwords. In fact it is you who is deceiving people since you pretend to have factual knowledge of the situation, aka an insider. But given your reading comprehension issues I doubt you are even an adult, maybe a 20 year old at best.

>>25925168
>What would be a better thread?
A thread dedicated to that coin? Anon, you're posting in a Ford thread asking about your Kawasaki.

>>You're going to have to learn.
>I am willing but very little of it makes sense to me.
Then you need to watch it again. If it doesn't come to you all at once you're going to have to take your time with it. That's learning, anon. As for where to start, yes you should start with those two videos. They're the most gentle introduction you're going to find. If you're still having trouble, then you need to learn how to study. Check out YT videos on how to do that and then apply what you've learned. Once you can get through the YT videos, then start working you way through the white papers on the attached blogs. After a while you'll get it, anon.

>>25925689
>q was a pajeet scam that trump knows nothing about
>q was developed to perfect manipulation techniques for pump and dumps as we move into a world of virtual currencies

>>25925689
With XRP there is clear evidence something is going on with it which is why I am here and holding it.
But the only "evidence" we have seen of qlarp is any time something goes wrong or doesnt happen at all the goal posts get moved like the anon above said.
They change the scenario over and over again and I think it will take until q2 or 3 of 2021 before people give it up and move onto something else.
The same shit happens all the time.

when moon? im starting to get tired of waiting, i shouldnt have sold my BTC for this..

>all the crypto tubers that are bullish on XRP only think it'll go to 1 or 7 dollars
This makes me sad

Uphold 100% planning an exit scam with xrp

>>25925813
Go be a fudding BTCmaxi somewhere else. XRP has always been a long term hodl.

>>25924615
Same, friend. Same.

>>25925817
makes me happy. Will be fun seeing them sell and then cry on youtube about how they could have been billionaires :)

>>25925720
its not a well kept secret you retard do you know how to read?

>>25925809
What goal post? you keep saying there is a goal post being moved list what you think is a goalpost that has been moved.

>>25918653
1/15=1+1+5

>>25925868
ive been holding xrp for 2 years already i added more after selling the BTC recently, what do you mean long hold? 5 years? 10 years? no one has time for that shit

when moon

>>25925817
Just in this altcoin bullrun? Not too unreasonable desu

>>25925955
>no one has time for that shit
I do, if you don't that's on you.

>>25925598
No source, but I’m a lawyer (derivatives, for a bank) so know how legal opinions work. There is obviously risk there. It may be low (in my opinion), but it still exists. Any lawyer telling you there’s no risk is not worth a penny.
That’s what you pay for. If it was black and white, you could just google the answer and be done with it. You want to know what are the risks, what are the likelihoods tied to those risks, what are the mitigating factors, etc.

Also, this is an allegation from the SEC, not just anybody.

I personally think the risk is low, but I’m generally pretty commercial on these things.

As far as the Swiss exchange: again, it’s risk tolerance. I suspect their legal took the view that they may be at risk if they allow US customers to trade XRP. That risk may be minimal and there may be many reasons why it’s ok to carry on, but it’ll be up to the organisation to decide on the level of risk vs reward.

>>25925955
There are no guarantees fren. All we can do is hold and hope that something positive happens. It is good to hold other coins so that you can at least make some gains in bullruns

>>25925942
>its secret but it isn't secret and the fact that nothing is happening means the secret is true

>>25925667
My mortgage is at 1.4% on £800k.
What rate can you offer me?

Stop being an emotional faggot.

>>25926013
Alright thanks for your input anon.

>>25925915
God I hope so. Holding till 4 digits regardless of these blonde fags, but still hurt a little
>>25925968
EOY

>>25926056
So what role, if any, do you see DeFi playing or do you think it's just snake oil to push phantom use case appreciation?

>>25925942
ugh I really need to explain?
>during the election - trump will win in a landslide
>after the election - trump loses and its to do with voter fraud. A fair assessment since that is a likely occurrence. However it was interesting to me that as maga people were chanting to stop the vote in pennsylvania people were chanting to count the vote in arizona. Seems like major bias to me.
>the vote happens and biden wins. Trump supporters say that isnt going to happen and very soon trump will show its a fair election.
>fast forward months and months and nothing happens, yeah he contests it but fuck all actually happens.
>now that we are close to election day people accept biden won on paper but that trump is going to run it behind the scenes.
i imagine in the future when trump fades into obscurity people will say biden won but trump can do it next time!!!
If he cant run because he is banned from running then they will move onto don jr or some other guy and then another and then another meanwhile the US imports more and more immigrants (even during republican terms), your standard of living gets lower and lower, more and more rights get taken away without a peep from republican politicians and then america also fades into obscurity.
Care about yourself and your family only. Stop stressing out and getting roped into psyops that wont get you anywhere and have basically been proven to be utter bullshit.

>>25926159
>EOY
Then they are niggers

>>25926045
>nothing is happening
if you aren't paying attention then you don't see what is happening.

>>25926268
*its not a fair election

>>25926268
not to mention the mantra of the qanon thing is "trust the plan" aka sit on your ass and dont do anything but just trust that its happening.
bravo to whoever thought that up. Brilliant way to pacify the population into accepting whatever bullshit is happening because "you need to trust the plan"

Today was a meme date..nothingburger.

When is the next date to look up to?

>>25926298
So you admit that all you're doing is watching the news and assuming there is secret stuff going on behind the scenes. You don't actually have anything else?

>>25926403
22.01.

>>25926403
Bruzzar u need to stop looking for the meme dates

>>25926392
The 'plan' only lasts until the 20th, after that, Q has no bearing on world events. If nothing happens after the 20th, why would anyone bother with Q?

>>25926403
Feb 4th.
>Source: me

>>25926403
You were the only person who thought it was a meme date.

>>25926473
Can't tell you. Its secret

>>25926473
Well the clock is ticking for them to pull it out the bag
I will be exceptionally impressed if something comes of it other than magatards sperging out at their state capitals and making the right look even worse than it already looks

>>25926268
>during the election - trump will win in a landslide
Trump won by a landslide, stealing the votes dosn't prove this wrong

>after the election - trump loses and its to do with voter fraud. A fair assessment since that is a likely occurrence. However it was interesting to me that as maga people were chanting to stop the vote in pennsylvania people were chanting to count the vote in arizona. Seems like major bias to me.
there is major voter fraud and each state has different types of fraud

>the vote happens and biden wins. Trump supporters say that isnt going to happen and very soon trump will show its a fair election.
biden didn't win, the house and senate refused to look at any evidence, it was a coup. and if you think it is over then you are just a retarded as the libtards who always celebrate early and cry salty tears of defeat.

>fast forward months and months and nothing happens, yeah he contests it but fuck all actually happens.
this isn't a movie where everything has to happen at once, this is real life and things take time to unfold, you are crying about why nothing is happening but forget that the enemy is global and has its tentacles in everything for hundreds of years of planning.

>now that we are close to election day people accept biden won on paper but that trump is going to run it behind the scenes.
only defeated losers accept biden, biden will never step foot on the whitehouse lawn, he will never be president.

>>25926056
if you have a public credit history on-ledger, prob much lower, since neither I or my defi compatriots have operational costs for offering such services.

and what would your rate be if the central banks of the world werent frantically trying to go below ZLB? what would the rate be if mortgage lenders werent bailed out by the same central banks?

the defi rate would probably be closer to the true market rate than whats currently touted as the rate

>>25926683
Retarded zoomer. This is what secularism does to people who have nothing to believe in except for the host of the apprentice.

>>25926683

this has to be larp, jfc

>>25926683
this post will be soemthing to look back on when biden gets settled in
I am truly sorry for the feelings you will have on inauguration day when you find out you have been utterly pozzed and lied to.
If theres anything you should remember its that life is more than politics, dont let bidens win destroy your life

>>25926297
sheeeeeeeit

>>25926683
This is a good example of retard thinking. The enemy is winning every battle but somehow they're gonna lose for some reason, soon.

Hold on, if I'm a wagie and I make it with xrp would that por me in the highest tax bracket?

Fuck

I was in need of some hopium
https://youtu.be/li1RMxmLr9E?t=6

>>25926910
You do realize these threads are archived. again you will not have any integrity to admit you were wrong and rope yourself. keep telling yourself that you will and saying i will move the goalpost but remember one thing, you will never be a woman libtard, seethe more and dilate. the people you support are peodphiles and the most evil sick fucks on earth and you are too for defending them.

>>25926786
We gotta pray for folx like this desu

>>25927047
Biden isn't president, trump is.
anyone he names for government position is only larp.

>>25927079
>>25926910
Can't you guys settle it through the Kleros TM court or something? LMAO

>>25927047
From his picture I think it's time to invest in THE PRECIOUS

>>25927152
Fuck Trump Fuck Biden Fuck the JewSA
Fuck the CIA ,NIGGERS, JEWS, FUCK TRUMP COCKSUCKERS, FUCK GATEKEEPERS AND FUCK YOU FAGGOT.

>>25927079
complete and utter delusion. You think I support someone who wants to increase capital gains to 40%?
Fucking idiot. Going to stop replying to you now since you are way too retarded to have a conversation with.
oh yeah inb4 libtard rekt xddd its 2015 guys!!
yeah ok

>>25927229
based

>>25927229
Just okay incredibly based

>>25927237
calls me delusional and blackpills everyone about how biden is going to be president. gtfo this thread!

>>25927296
Fuck I fucking hate phoneposting

>>25927237
>someone who wants to increase capital gains to 40%
*for those earning more than ONE MILLION USD annually.
I am not pro Biden either but people always misquote the 40% tax stuff.

>>25927017
You only pay taxes on realized profits. If you hold your coins it's not profit or income.

>>25927332
Oh I didnt realise the truth is considered blackpilling.
Thought you guys care so much about fax n logic
Cant handle it son?
>>25927341
Ah fair enough my mistake.

Guys, babacugs is a tranny. Here's him posting from a few years ago.. has since deleted it

>yfw shills abruptly disappear and Trump is still president on the 20th.
Please get mas a fuck as possible, it amuses me greatly. I will make the most of your shitposting.

>>25927341
its not a misquote, the Marxist will eliminate the middle class. there will only be poor and the uber wealthy.
of course this won't ever happen because biden isn't going to be president.

If there was no SEC , What would be the ideal price of XRP ?

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>>25927392
>>25927392
>>25927392

>>25927017
>>25927348
And hold for a year or more. Long term rates are 15% whereas you pay regular marginal rates if you hold less than a year.

Biden's about to mess even that up, but only if you're over $1million. So if it moons, plan accordingly.

>>25927396
>truth
your truth is false as your fake ass teeth you are lying through

>>25927399
Is there a single insider info or leak or any info which turned out to be true?

All his tweets are stupid riddles or hopium.

>>25927422
The price would be 2 dollars +/- 50 cent right now.

>>25927416
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-capital-gains-tax-idUSKBN26Z2CA

I know it's a gay fact check but that's what I based my statement on

>>25927461
22nd of December was a legit date, it just turned out to be a shiteating day for xrp, but still easily one of the most important in recent memory

>>25923869
Q is real

>>25927726
It is real, a real psyop.