/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25898710
pajeet browser infested with bots, wtf do you expect, I have no fucking clue how its not 0 already

>>25898710
Nothing. If you bought, sell your bag as soon as it hits .40 again. Stay away, understand? Do not buy BAT.

>>25898862
Will it hit 0.40? I doubt it holding these bags since forever muh firefox

Nothing, nothing ever happens to this shitcoin. This coin just sits at $0.20 forever. The ultimate stablecoin.

>>25898710
>>25898742
>>25898862
>>25899031
>>25899558
this shit is going to have an XRP/LINK tier run. its just impossible that it doesn't. 24 million + users and growing exponentially. its only a matter of time. its literally the most comfy hold and will shoot to top 10 market cap eventually.

>>25899031
Uhh. Yeah, eventually. And you need to dump everything then. You need to promise me.

>>25899758

Hope you're right. My gut feeling is that BAT will take off some day, but I'll be damned if it hasn't been a depressing 3 years of holding.

>>25898862
>>25899558
This is pretty much how I feel. Bounces between ~15 cents to 30 cents range, might pump a little higher or dump a little lower depending on what daddy Bitcoin does, but NEVER holds its gains. Ever. In its entire existence.

>>25899776
Ill promise

>>25899758
yeah, im banking on an xrp/link tier run too. I think it could be possible during a bear market and it would steal the show. All eyes on BAT while everyones coins continue bleeding out and exit scamming.

>>25899859
a bit of Brave browser hype, the onboarding of mass amounts of boomers in the last week and people noticing the scarcity and finite supply of BAT will make it pop. its one of the most thinly spread crypto's with one of the largest amounts of wallets. its only growing. its not vaporware. the brave team has nil interest in pumping or hyping their crypto, nor holding baseless 'conferences' and spewing technobabble and false promises.

>>25899950
Great, thanks mate :)

>>25899994
Interesting. Never used the brave browser is it good

>>25900395
dl it and let us know.

its what a strong percentage of biz and 4chan as a whole use unless you are from /g/ and write your own operating systems.

the guy who is the CEO founded firefox and now going to put his king crown back on with brave

>>25900464
>its what a strong percentage of biz and 4chan as a whole use
cope

>>25898710

It will go up significantly this bull market right? How can XRP go up in 2017 and not BAT in 2021?

Seems like its meant for bat to stay at 20 cents, dont wanna make people rich

>>25900395
I’ve been using it for 3 months and it’s pretty good. I like it better than FireFox by far. Decided to try it since I lurked these threads for a while for the braps and ended up being my main browser
>>25900527
There’s almost 25 million monthly active users. It’s growing rapidly

>>25899994
Brave only seems to be growing, and the recent firefox news looks like a pretty big mass exodus that is going to have an immediate and lasting effect. What brave does well is that they make a great product that people enjoy and is highly recommended by others. Firefox tweets are now turning into brave ads, and almost every privacy scandal or big tech scandal is turning into a brave ad. It looks like brave is on track to hit over 100m users by the end of 2022 which is a massive deal. Brave is definitely not a fly on the wall anymore, and theres big money starting to notice what is brewing. I don't know how people are ignoring BAT or writing it off. Its potentially the safest 100x you could find.

>>25899994
>the brave team has nil interest in pumping or hyping their crypto
Seems like they’d want a bit of price action to happen. Would give a lot more incentive for more to opt in rewards and fund the bullshit they’ve been pushing back for years

Brave was shilled to me not too long ago, been using it ever since. It's pretty neat. I do like the BAT reward system they've created, it's incredibly unique to the web browser industry.

Imagine if there was some form of staking wew

>>25901115
>Seems like they’d want a bit of price action to happen
not really, they take a percentage of the advertisers costs to run the business and pay wages. what makes them more money is having a greater volume and spread of advertisers, not token prices increasing.

the only reason they would care for inorganic token price increase is if they are holding stacks of BAT themselves personally. and even then, they would rather not have the SEC knock on their doors. I know its hard to comprehend that in the crypto space its a legitimate company.

> Would give a lot more incentive for more to opt in rewards and fund the bullshit they’ve been pushing back for years
False. Users get paid the same amount in USD irrespective of BAT price. The user may get $3 USD per month, whether they earn 3 BAT per month or 0.003 BAT. People are not going to be earning $150 a month if the coin price is $20.

>>25901106
yeah i unironically like using brave. it feels like there is a team behind it with my best interests in mind. theres a website tracking firefox usage and im pretty sure its on a slow decline, and probably going to be bigger given the last few weeks of media.

>>25901364
Its a super cool business model thats already working. its great to see paypal and amazon push adverts as it demonstrates how effective it is.

>>25901487
brave themis my friend, brave themis.

>>25901532
Themis interesting thanks... I might hold my bag after all it seems to be extremely undervalued

>>25901532
Promising

>>25898710
No need to buy tokens. Just earn them and market sell.

>>25901816
i agree. real things take time to buildout. take a look at the brave careers page and see how many people they employ now, and how many positions are open. its a real group of people.


>>25901967
the themis discord is already open and they have posted a blogpost about it here:

https://brave.com/themis-rfcc/

looks really cool.

>>25901364
post your bat reward collection. a friend of mine from canada earned 150 bat since the start of nov last year. not sure if he is hodling forever

>>25902088
Can I get link to the discord? Thanks

>>25902088
Nevermind found it the blogpost lol

>>25902344
checkd.

it does seem like the themis event will draw a lot of publicity, much like the link conference.

>>25902728
Tech report is gonna drop this week. Man if there is any mention of staking or such it will boom

I'm a normie midwit and can't quite wrap my head around what THEMIS is. Is it basically a zero knowledge proof way for BAT to be disbursed by Brave for viewing Brave ads, but automatically rather than the manual off-chain thing they're doing now?

>>25903013
Braves Chris, commonly on the subreddit and TG posted this about themis. It should have some kind of staking.

>>25903525
see >>25903534

>>25903534
Ok, that actually helps explain my question in >>25903525 . That all sounds extremely bullish and all, but it's still vaporware at the moment.

>>25903534
Sounds very very promising. Also the reason why BAT is in a obvious accumulation phase. If there some genius around here creating BAT version of linkpool that would be great opportunity . Full tech report should come out coming days

>>25899758
Token literally not needed to use the browser

The browser is great, ive been using it for a few days and its much faster than trannyfox, adfree too

The browser is great. Bat will reach three dollars eventually, it is not a smart hold though. Money is better spent elsewhere.

>>25904074
that's the great thing. if you needed to be a crypto head to use the browser, it wouldnt be widely adopted. right now, most people are scared off. But if you already use the browser, and crypto becomes mainstream, it's ready and waiting for you to use. If crypto succeeds, BAT will.

I know this because it literally just happened to me. Very genious

>>25900395
I use the mobile one. It's great. I've heard the desktop one is shit though. That being said I've never used bat even when they gave me like 20 bucks

>>25904519
$40

>>25898710
Brave Rewards has such shit functionality that it's meaningless to me.

>>25904990
it really is. you'll lose half of the shitcoin from fees.

>>25904532
Its a fucking garbage browser that doesnt even serve ads correctly. I stopped getting ads in pc and mobile 3 months ago. Pajeets that get ads literally sell the second they receive any BAT there is permanent downward pressure. It doesnt even block ads as effectively as adblocker does

>>25898710
please for the love of god dont buy this. its not meant to have any speculative value its just a tipping token

>>25905132
ublock origin never fail to block ads.

>>25898710
>brave reward creators
>never deposited this month bats
fuck this, it's just one dollar

>>25898710
I literally can’t stop buying bat. I know. I repeat. I know it will noon in the next few year. I’ve dumped 35% of every paycheck I’ve gotten for the last 3 years into this coin and I just KNOW it will pay off. I’ve never used the browser but I hear GOOD things.

>>25905329
how the fuk can you put so much money into BAT and not use the browser?

>>25905132
This is true
so long as it can't do its one stated goal of blocking ads, no reason to use this

>>25905112
fees?

>>25904840
>the desktop one is shit though
it's exactly the same

>>25905132
the reason i switched is because it does a better job than adblocker

>>25905329
Dude, you should use the browser for free bat.

>>25905400
I’ve seen enough videos of its use to know it’s an A+ project. One of my friends uses it on mobile and while he says the load times are not so great (I don’t believe him) he LOVES that he gets paid for ads. That says it all for me right there.

>>25905513
Nothing in life is free my friend ;)

>>25900666
sure, satan

>>25905526
But why don't you use the browser personally?

>>25905743
Idk I don’t really trust it

>>25898710

I look at the price on this every 6 months.

It is always about .25

>>25905960
based skitzo

if you are worried about your data, take a look into their ad model and how information is stored locally on your machine. im sure you've already seen it, but its quite neat how it works if you havent.

>>25898710
It's a good browser but why the fuck am I gonna volunteer to ads when I do everything in my power to avoid them?

>>25906610
in case you want some loose change to tip creators, bypass paywalls, or participate in the rest of the brave/bat ecosystem being built out

>>25906730
It just feels counter intuitive to me. Like a paradox.

>>25906802
how so?

>>25906867
The whole reason the browser exists. It's goes against what it is founded on. I get that they give u the option but for those who don't know about advertising or don't care about privacy settings, the default settings are super fuckin annoying. Brave rewards, links to crypto partners, reffersl links to Binance (lek), etc. I do like it though tweaked with Ublock Origin.

>>25906953
I don't know, it's super super fucking easy to turn the ads off. Brave's purpose is really that online advertising needs to change, and part of that is that the user should get to choose whether they want to opt-in or opt-out of it. Makes perfect sense to me.

>>25906071
yup. Extremely painful (for you).

>>25904990
agree 100%. HAven't checked mine in like a year and I think it permanently bugged out/froze when I accidentally tipped 3 BAT to myself like 2 years ago

>>25905329
this is so fucking weird

the exact opposite of this should be true, you should be using the browser and not wasting your hard-earned shekels on BAT

>>25907303
but if you think the amount you are going to earn increases over time, why not buy more of it?

>>25898742
What the fuck are you talking about? Brave is great. Just not for posting on 4chan

>>25907331
Because you can literally get it for free doing exactly what you would do anyways without buying it.

Disclaimer, I've bought plenty of BAT, but if you don't believe in the browser, I don't know why you'd think buying BAT is a good idea. Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, buck-o

I came from advertising. The industry is one huge fraud bubble. It looks like brave is getting back to the basics and throwing one huge wrench in the plan. Any ad agency worth their salt would be ditching RTB and going back to direct deals or a system like braves NTP or notifications/display ads. Its just one big game of finger pointing to find out who put their hand in the cookie jar. The privacy narrative looked like it took root and is playing out, and now ad fraud is becoming more and more apparent. Brave looks like they are shaping up to become the next industry gold standard for GDPR compliant and fraud resistant ads. Take this information for what you will, or dont.

>>25907344
i'm posting with it right now. captcha used to suck but they fixed that.

>>25907629
How much bat do u have and how much do I need

>>25907746
>Shit browser can't handle the most basic of websites
Also their fucking rewards have dropped or what? I use it like 6 hours a week and now it's infested with ads but each one only gives me 0.01 BATs. I smell scam.

>>25899758
Has the Firefox recent exodus increased Brave userbase? Genuinely asking

>>25907938
dunno, only turned mine on this month. I use it most of the day, and I have about 0.830 BAT so far

>>25905960
Tor is built into the browser and u dont have to opt into ads

>>25905960
it's just google chrome with a built in adblocker

>>25908018
>Not even a quarter for a month of use

>>25907995
>Has the Firefox recent exodus increased Brave userbase?

we'll definitely know by next month when Eich and Co. release the ever growing MAU. But my guess: probably a little bit

>>25907938
if you're not in the US, turn ads off. Literally not worth your time. If you're in the US, not sure why you're getting such a small amount. I got $11 worth of BAT just from having ads on last month

>>25907746
>aptcha used to suck but they fixed that.
Still kinda does, but Brave is based compared to Firefuck

>>25899859
>Bounces between ~15 cents to 30 cents range
Try high freq trading

>>25908126
The money earned is intended for tipping. It’s a good browser with a bonus. What stupid piece of shit must you be to think you could make a living wage browsing the internets.

Unless they add fractional tipping, I'll never tip BAT

>>25908170
mine works after the first try now. don't know if that's really a bad thing.
the other nice thing about Brave is that since it's so popular, instead of using something autistic like Waterfox where you can be fingerprinted, you blend in with the crowd, so to speak.

only thing i don't like about Brave is you can't fine-tune the adblocker shield with total control. (yet (maybe))

>>25908126
That varies greatly on where you live. Ad campaigns vary by country.

Token not needed. Fundamentally pegged to sub $1. Its in the whitepaper.

>>25908271
>"H-here's your tip anon-kun"
>Proceeds to tip less than a quarter

>>25899758
What don't you get about token not needed? We get rewarded in the token, why do I need to buy it?

>>25908596
to get a monopoly in the pool of token holders to sell back to advertisers in the future at a higher rate

>>25907886
I have 570k BAT. I think anything over 1k is a start because thats just what i have earned from ads. 10k or more is probably a good idea. If brave keeps growing at over 9% M/M like it has been the supply will get pinched. Its already impossible for 150k people to even hold 10k BAT. Thats only $2,300, and theres an advertiser waitlist. Just to give you an idea theres over 180k dental offices in the U.S. and lots of them spend $3-8k a month. Thats just dental work and doesnt include other private practices or professional services like lawyers,contractors etc. Google makes its bread and butter by catching the user once they have signaled some form of intent, but it stops at their search query. Brave takes it even further by going off any query or page content. Theres a lot of money out there and its looking for something like brave.

>>25908752
Bingo, someone on this board who doesnt have a frigid IQ

>>25908458
>only thing i don't like about Brave is you can't fine-tune the adblocker shield with total control. (yet (maybe))

True, but typing "brave://adblock/" in the address bar lets you do a little bit of customization, but it's just adding things to the default adblock.

>of note: "Filter obtrusive cookie notices" is pretty nice. That shit's so fucking annoying.

im literally living a biz meme, went 50/50 on LINK and BAT in 2017 and I pretty much just want to kms and take that giant forehead faggot out with me
could have been so much richer, instead im a linklet with unbearably shameful and heavy batbags

>>25908854
Can u crunch the numbers on what bat price predictions could be for us retards here in the future. I did 180000 X 8000 and got a big fukken number per month can't be right if that all went into BAT price would be astronomical

>>25907995
https://batgrowth.com/

>>25908897
ah thank you i did not know that

>>25907938
its not the browser thats shit its the internet
i feel like eich is correct and bat could theoretically flip google but its like, the entire digital economy would implode if they actually acknowledged that 2/3rd of ad revenue is just fake.

>>25908945
don't worry, I have the same exact portfolio as you and I also want to kms. I'm sure there are many more like us. We're in purgatory because it could have been worse, but it should have been a hell of a lot better.

>mfw I think about my portfolio if I had gone all-in on LINK when it was 20 cents
>mfw 3 years later BAT is still 20 cents and LINK is pushing $20

>>25908966
Yes, that comes out to $1.4B in monthly ad spend. Heres a quick thought experiment. Say I was a billionaire and wanted to be a giga chad. I could go and buy 1.5B BAT tokens for $340m. The network could then run on one token and I would control something like 99.9^14 of the market. At todays ad sale volume I would be earning $1m a month. Not exactly the best investment, but imagine in 6 months from now BAT is at the same price but is now earning $10m a month. Now it starts looking like a really lucrative investment. Drop $300m and get a $10m a month dividend. BAT would pay off the investment in 2 1/2 years. Likely much much quicker. That is a 36% per year ROI. Just imagine Brave pulling $100m in ad spend or even $1B a month. Theres a reason big money has not dumped this token. Trying to get a monopoly on this token could be extremely lucrative.

>>25909400
wtf is this theory real life it sounds schizo. why doesn't someone do it already lel. is there enough volume to buy that much?

>>25909459
It is almost nearly impossible to pull off, but if you can stymie most of the sell side you could in theory see a 30-40% Y/Y price growth or even higher depending on the growth rate of ad revenue. Its likely the reason BAT has been going through a 3 year accumulation window. Let the big boys play, while the kids dink around on their dogecoin cryptoshit all day.

>>25898710
It has had a 50% pump every month for the last 3 months. If you haven't been swinging at least 20% compounding profits you're doing it wrong. Buy at and below 20 cents, sell at and above 25 cents.