/biz/ - Business & Finance

But we got Trump out of the office!

>>25896932
wallstreet invented covid so they could buy the march dip

>>25896932
Fuck your boomer business, I hope your wife and her son take you for all you have left and they can finally go on welfare like they were meant to

yeah better to make it rn
it was actually an incentive to care about crypto/stocks to me I really don’t wanna work up until my 70s to fix an economy that boomers put into the shitter (yet again!)

at least i got free money lmao

>>25897016
This actually seems pretty likely

>poor
>guaranteed a 35k growing to 55k (£) job in september
is this enough time to make it? Or is the economy gonna be so fucked i wont see any significant gains even from crypto?

Coronavirus was a test run of the control protocols, it was a complete success

>>25896932
jews did 9/11, they have no decency

>>25896932
Haven’t we known this since April

>>25896932
it will only be the common cold for the generations about to born. for us this is a virus that fucks you up way too much to joke with it. over 75% of people treated for covid exhibit long term symptoms. eve those that don't realize this are worse for the wear.

just fucking stop with the retardation!

That cuomo tweet.
The world is so evil

>>25897408
I love making stupid wagies SEETHE when I walk into their store to buy chicken tenders without a mask on

>>25896932
These people started world wars over their banks getting kicked out of a single country, a little coof is no big psyop for them if it means getting rid of Drump. Merciful, really.

>>25897408
>over 75% of people treated for covid exhibit long term symptoms
psychosomatic

>>25897408
>over 75% of people treated for covid exhibit long term symptoms


Oy vey, yes the covid virus did it, not the doctors and hospitals.

>>25897408
No unusual excess mortality
No correlatuon between lockdowns and mortality
97% of pcr test positives over cycle threshold 35 are false positives
No evidence masks have efficacy
No unusual icu admission

>>25896932
This is incredibly naive. The problem isn't the virus (which is similar to flu and really only kills old, sick people), the problem is it is being used to reset the world economy and drive us all into slavery. If it wasn't Sars cov 2 it'd be some other stupid strain they dreamt up. This is not going to stop. Get used to it. It'll go on for years and years.

>>25896932
>come to resemble the common cold
>come to
So it will be the exact same as how it started

>>25896932
Biz won't believe me but I'm a doctor, and this virus is nothing to joke with. So many of our patients, who otherwise would have survived their hospital admissions, have died simply because they caught this virus while they were already unwell with something else, often routine and treatable conditions.
I saw a lady 2 weeks ago who lost her leg below the knee because if this virus. She fell sick with it at home, a few days later threw a massive clot down her femoral artery and almost lost her entire leg. She wasn't even 60 years old and had no other medical background of note. This virus is no joke.

>>25896932
On the bright side, mega corporations are doing better than ever and the populace is practically begging to be chipped like dogs.

>>25897989
>while they were already unwell with something else
hm, surprising

>>25897989
go back

>>25897847
>reset the world economy and drive us all into slavery
you are psychotic, get help
its really sad that so many people think there's some secret cabals running the show and purposely doing things on such a mass scale, it must help them feel better than realizing its just chaos instead

>>25896932
once most of the world is immune via vaccine or not, of course it will be easier to manage
the problem is that hospitals literally can't keep up with EVERYONE getting it now, resulting is death that shouldn't be happening

>>25897989
Fucking Bollocks. What are you, 77th Brigade? The hospitals are empty and the emperor has no clothes.
Yes, the hospitals are so overwhelmed that medical doctors (ha ha) have the time to come on /biz and make up a pack of lies, and expect us to go "ooh, it must be real then!". You fucking idiot. Shame on you for taking part in this. If there's a hell you're going to it.

>>25897627
?? the fantasies in this post

masks are clearly effective, because countries where people didn't resist wearing one have recovered quickly
how do you see the failure that is the US spread and not say "oh well what did these other guys do differently" and realize it was wear masks and lockdown?

and ICUs have been overloaded across the country, you clearly have no actual knowledge and just read facebook posts by trumptards

>>25898124
>its really sad that so many people think there's some secret cabals running the show and purposely doing things on such a mass scale
Retard, if you do not understand how big business works, what do you even do on /biz/?
You are definitely not going to make it.

>>25898124
I'm sure you're going to have a good time eating bugs

>>25898124
Keep telling that to yourself

>>25898181
It’s seasonal, you retard. Plus retard doctors who want that sweet covid money. Also doctors exacerbating respiratory distress by not treating it early. Holy shit, go back to your retarded nbc emotionally charged propaganda.

>>25898124
You think it’s random that we haven’t blown ourselves up with all the nukes that exist in the world? Like it’s just random chaos that we’re all still magically alive? Wake up, there are incredibly powerful forces at play here.

>>25898181
>>25898124
I've been all over this stuff for years. It was always coming. You're some anon who lives in cloud cuckoo land and thinks everything on tv is true as it'd freak you out if you faced the truth.
I bet you think 9/11 was pulled off by 19 arabs with box cutters, too, right?
Wake up!

>>25896972
He doesnt know who the sitting president is...

>>25898181
You are a fucking burger eating retard and it shows, literaly every other country in the world is doing the same shit you are doing, ex. argue masks and so on. The difference being we dont think "were the worst" or that were special, get the fuck out of your narrow shell

>>25898181
>ICUs have been overloaded across the country
ICUs are always overloaded, hospitals are always at capacity, they PLAN to be because anything else is a waste of money.

that's why the first wave was scary, we didn't know how things would turn out, and as it turned out, not a single person did not receive care who needed.

Anything after that, and it's the state's fault who can't wipe their fucking asses without relying on federal overreach, or the hospitals themselves for being dogshit at their jobs.

>>25898124
>its really sad that so many people think there's some secret cabals running the show and purposely doing things on such a mass scale,
Dude you seriously think corporations and special interest groups "donating" large sums of money to government officials have absolutely no power to call shots? Are you fucking serious? Do you realize how common psychotic and sociopathic tendencies tend to be in people of high status? Those "win at all costs" and "I always get what I want" attitudes don't go away once you have money and clout, it just amplifies who you already were.

>>25897989
This is 4chan, a place filled with delusional schizocucks that believe in illogical conspiracies because they're unable to face reality, you're wasting your time trying to convince these retards lmao. Even if one of these dumbfucks lost a lung or whatever organs cuz of blood clots they would rather blame the occult jewish companies that rule the world from the shadows just so they can collect human body parts to fuel their XRP-bots that will ultimately rule their imaginary world, kek

>>25897267
Crypto will be more valuable than fiat. Keep accumulating

>>25898043
Well yeah, I work in surgery so I don't deal with the ones who are purely sick with covid. Besides what is your point? They are still dying of covid. They would have recovered and gone home to their families, except they caught covid and died.

>>25898065
>saves a thumbnail
I've been here longer than you have, and I have more money than you

>>25898157
Look at this fucking schizo boomer
>the hospitals are empty
No they're fucking not, and besides, the primary concern is with ITU capacity not ward beds. ICUs are FULL and CANNOT TAKE MORE PATIENTS. Your retarded facebook boomer conspiracy videos aren't you showing you where the bottleneck is in the health system, which is in intensive care.
>medical doctors (ha ha) have the time to come on /biz and make up a pack of lies
Well yeah I don't work 24hrs a day you fucking mong
Everything I said in my last post was 100% true, believe me or not idgaf

>>25898502
id love for nothing more than to rip off your mask and breathe in your face

>>25898502
>Well yeah, I work in surgery so I don't deal with the ones who are purely sick with covid. Besides what is your point? They are still dying of covid. They would have recovered and gone home to their families, except they caught covid and died.
iirc average age of death is 76, and if you run that calc on covid deaths it comes out to 74. A bad cold to be sure, but just a cold among many in the end. They'd probably have died, as we can infer from the statistic, of something else in the next couple years anyway.

>>25898502
also allow me to pose another question, to what extent are the deaths reflective of the deadliness of the virus versus the piss-poor health of the (American) population?

>>25898181
>masks are clearly effective
no. there is no correlation with mask use and mortality
there is no correlation with lockdowns and mortality
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/

covid can be predicted by previous season mortality, seasonality, metabolic health, vitamin d. The lockdowns are entirely unjustified and are one of the most tyrannical things done to the west by there own governments.

If you applied the scale of pcr testing and ridiculous above 30 cycle threshold to any other flu season you could have done this for any flu season

>>25898502
i fucking despise you and everything the modern medical institution stands for. i'd rather go to a nutritionist than you fucking corporate pill pushers. literally every doctor i've been to wants to prescribe shit instead of actually probing into lifestyle habits. i actually hope hell is real and that i'll see you there one day.

>>25898714
>laboratory confirmed
So not covid KEK

anyone have that twitter thread about some danish investigation into the UK strain? it was pretty doomsday-ish

non pharmaceutical intervention has been studeid for decades it is not warranted by science but it was warranted these last years because of political corruption

Also a friendly reminder that ameritards broke Benford's law twice last year (election votes, covid cases) so yeah we totally believe your statistics

>>25898801
https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/
https://archive.is/2YHOA

uk takes anything positive under 38 as a case. absolutely absurd

>>25897027
Oh, so now you take the cross generational war on business scale, eh?
So be it. As representation of millenials, I declare war to boomers, X, and zoomers
And my first act of war is to refuse to recognize the sovereignty of Israel.

>>25897408
Imagine believing that it behaves any different from other corona viruses like the flu or the cold.
Please remove yourself from my reality.
I mean as quickly and efficiently as possible.

>>25898319
>>25898333
>>25898369
>>25898398
>>25898714
He's right about the mask, you know.
t. got CCP virus in late December

>>25898776
it's real and there was a pandemic in early 2020.

but all the government policy is not justified by science and is probably the largest negative cost benefit policy in history. It's beyond criminal

>>25898502
Hey retard, why does the USA spend trillions on healthcare, including vaccinations, and yet a retarded covid virus happens and we’re back to 100+ years ago with mask wearing and social distancing? What happened to your miraculous vaccinations?

>>25897408
Post-viral syndrome. Have it from untreated Lyme when I was a kid. Wrecks your entire life. You all will live to regret your presumption of invulnerability. You can never take it back.

>>25899156
Not arguing that it doesnt exist, i specifically said it wasnt laboratory confirmed/ isolated, which it (even after a year) still isnt. And this isnt a rando theory or some shit, just the way it is.

>>25899318
there's zero evidence the long term effects of sars cov2 are any different to seasonal flu
there's evidence to the contrary that stringent NPI will mitigate any long term effects

>>25897408
Boo fucking hoo that's your problem. The strong survive and the weak perish.

>>25897627
this

>>25897408
these dumbfuck shill retards are on every goddam board

>>25897989
this is some of the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever read. unironically kys

if you applied mass testing and high pcr ct positives to any previous flu season you could have made the same casedemic we have had

you could speculate they will continue this racket by beginning to attribute increased mortality attributable to lockdowns (mental health, cancer diagnosis, heart disease etc) to covid by this same high sensitivity pcr testing asymptomatic scam.
e.g In the uk the majority of the excess mortality in the summer was at home deaths which can't be covid

>bankrupt businesses
>destroyed jobs
>stock market and crypto at all time high

How does this even make any sense? Probably a calculated move by THEM.

>>25897989
>but I'm a doctor,


How’s it feel to be the third leading cause of death? If you include legalized killing procedures like abortion, you realize doctors are the biggest cause of death.

>>25897490
or you are an opinionated retard
those are the two options

>>25900143
no pressure to laugh, it's just meant to be dry

>>25897627
>No unusual excess mortality
in my country there is significant excess mortality tho even above predicted levels.
>97% of pcr test positives over cycle threshold 35 are false positives
i did 3 pcr tests so far all negative i think you are just being a tinfoil hat moron.

suit yourself idiots at least we will have a sample population to analyze later.

>>25897408
>people still believe this

5 months ago your post would have raised my blood pressure, but now that I've literally had COVID (tested positive from lab test, ran the gamut of symptoms, tested negative ~2 weeks later) all I can do is laugh at people like you.

It was a total fucking nothingburger. It was equivalent of the flu for 2 days and then a minor cold for a week. I can only laugh at the shmucks who fell for the COVID meme, but let's face it, the misinformation about COVID was all a bad-faith effort to smear the leadership at the time anyways.

>>25900313
enjoy your multi organ damage and the sad fact you can catch it again every few week because in this regard it's like the common cold. no immunity.

>>25900267
which country?

>pcr
have a read you shill >>25898937

>>25900364
absolute bullshit.
you are the scum of the earth

>>25900367

>>25900419
you won't get lasting immunity from getting infected. it's just the sad fact about these coronaviruses.

>>25900313
It's also people being absolute pussies and willing to give up their freedom for a tiny bit security (in their minds).

>>25900267
Can you please answer this, how do you after reading your reply still think that youre in any way superior to anything that isnt a gold fish? Like that was fukcing pathethic man, 0 counterarguments, horrible examples, like cmon fucking hell. Just answer me pls how does your brain place you anywhere but the bottom of the IQ chain?

>>25900364
You can keep making a conscious choice to believe things that aren't true/true for a extreme minority of people, like the total idiot that you are. I will continue living my healthy life after having COVID-19.

Once again, it was an absolute nothingburger. You don't have to be such a scared little girl. I had it. Hundreds of millions of people have had it at this point. It was a minor flu-like sickness. You'll never believe me and I don't really care.

>>25898962
Cunt why zoomers? It's not our fault your parents were bastard self absorbed pond scum, w were raised by the ignored generation, now we have to deal with millennial culture and its postering, half my generation is pushing lgbt crap because of it and the other half wants to see those same people's heads on sticks

>>25900523
>will continue living my healthy life after having COVID-19.
the best thing about this is we will see who was right soon enough.
>Hundreds of millions of people have had it at this point.
likely we are only at 2 million deaths expect 10 times this figure before it all ends. either that or vaccines get distributed faster than expected.

>>25897438
What tweet?

>>25900313
Breathtakingly and utterly retarded take. The complete lack of any semblance of understanding basic, basic statistics or math (or common sense for that matter) makes me hate myself that I’m posting on the same forum as you

>this happened to me therefore it’s fine so stop crying about it

God just imagine looking at the world this way

>>25900499
absolute lie. https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30781-7/fulltext

>>25900654
Lol dude I had it months ago. I promise you I'm fine. Once again you will choose to believe what you want. You're moving the goal posts and you will continue to do so because it reinforces your already-proven-wrong schizophrenic beliefs. You should seek help. You're a fucking lunatic.

It was fucking nothing. Minor flu.

>>25899708
>stock market and crypto at all time high
>How does this even make any sense?

see >> https://youtu.be/O1hCLBTD5RM

>>25900734
Argue all you want but dont mention statistics and math, since they both pretty much shit on covid

>>25900734
>>this happened to me therefore it’s fine so stop crying about it

No, you see, that's what happened to me and LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE HAD IT and either did not even notice they had it, were asymptomatic, etc. etc.

Another schizophrenic just absolutely devastated that I had COVID and won't confirm their absolute dogshit retard world view. Deal with it you dumb cunt.

>>25897408

For 6 months retard, that's how long a healthy person takes to recover from getting their lungs destroyed by ventilators. Loss of taste and other things recover long before that.

>>25900843
covid is real but the government response is not justified and incredibly harmful and orwellian. These politicians should be going to jail
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/

Hearing the retards that piss their pants over COVID bring up "look at the statistics" is fucking rich. The irony can't be lost on them, I refuse to believe they're not arguing in bad faith.

>>25897408
go back to plebbit and shill your rat-faced kike lies there you shit-eating faggot

>>25897127
Spoken like an absolute nigger. GIBS ME DAT

KYS, you non-contributing sack of dogshit.

>>25900797
>I promise you I'm fine.
that can also happen you had 1 in 4 chance of that.

>>25900996
you are the sort of idiots that bet no trump after he lost. you are the typical imbeciles we trade against.

no worries.

>>25900939
>covid is real but the government response is not justified and incredibly harmful and orwellian.
yeah it's basically going full retard and not doing enough at the same time.

>>25897016
not unlikely, also jeff bezos made like hundreds of billions

>>25900882
main the constant tiredness that covid patients complain about even if they were never put on a ventilator. which basically can kill you in itself 1 ear survival stats for ventilated patients is abysmal if they were on it more than 1 weeks.

>>25901056
why would i want to contribute to this dystopia lmao

>>25898937
> Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci’s key quote (starting at about the 4-minute mark [1]):

“…If you get a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication-competent are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…it’s just dead nucleoids, period.”

> What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

>>25896932
All part of their plan.

Wait until Suterusu does its thing and SUTER gets adopted by China. Antshares.

>>25901200
everything you have posted is nonsense.
there is not even a correlation with lockdown or masks and mortality let alone efficacy
>>25900737
>>25900494
>>25900367
>>25897627

>>25901200
I've made 10-100x what you ever have or will in crypto because I think for myself instead of lapping up whatever dogshit the media wants to peddle to you

have fun destroying your entire economy and hiding in your home for a year over a flu where the average age of those who died of it is older than the overall average life expectancy, faggot

>>25901340
all tests are run to 45. its what cycle threshold comes back as positive do you accept
the who also recommends giving back results with what ct produced a positive.
anything over 30 is absurd and they are testing asymptomatic people which is even more absurd

https://youtu.be/-u6fbHGWYuc

>>25898607
Firstly, i doubt these numbers, and secondly, just because the average age of death is similar between the two cohorts doesn't mean that the deaths are not excessive or preventable.
>They'd probably have died, as we can infer from the statistic, of something else in the next couple years anyway.
That doesn't mean it's acceptable that they die now. 30% of hospital inpatients are in their final year of life - does that mean we should just not treat them?
>>25898681
>to what extent are the deaths reflective of the deadliness of the virus versus the piss-poor health of the (American) population?
A good question, I think it's no coincidence that the countries with obese/diabetic/CKD populations are the ones which are struggling most

>>25898754
Why don't you fuck off and waste your money on some homeopathist somewhere
>literally every doctor i've been to wants to prescribe shit instead of actually probing into lifestyle habits
lol it goes both ways, try sending a patient home without a prescription they will literally chimp out on you

>>25899204
This virus is a problem because it is completely novel, we have never seen this virus in humans before December 2019 and so nobody had any immunity to it at all. We didn't have a vaccine because the virus was brand new. Therefore we had no way of stopping its spread. We have one now and it looks like it will be effective.
Your IQ is very low and you are ngmi

>>25900103
I'm sure I've saved more lives than I've killed

>>25899678
https://bjssjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bjs.11904
I've seen it twice now - healthy, (relatively) young people with NO vascular disease coming in with critical limb ischaemia, shortly after COVID infection. First guy got to keep his leg, the lady I saw 2 weeks ago didn't

>>25900737
did you actually read it? we don't really know shit just that the virus is very mutagenic and the common cold (same virus family) can be caught every few week. obviously for the same strain a healthy adult will have some immunity but how lasting that is there is no telling and absolutely unlikely you can't catch it every year for the rest of your life. every time you have a chance to die and a greater chance to develop lasting damage.

but yeah pretend it's just a cold... go on see if i care. i will just wait at home until the picture clears up and most people are vaccinated.

>>25901484
>This virus is a problem because it is completely novel, we have never seen this virus in humans before December 2019 and so nobody had any immunity to it at all.
its a coronavirus
>no immunity
pic related sars cov 1 2003 >>25900419

>>25900843
Name one. Happy to chat through it.

>>25898124
Wouldn't it be irresponsible for the incredibly wealthy and powerful to NOT use their influence to steer world events in a favorable direction? Isn't it fiscally irresponsible to put morals over profits? It's far less likely that they leave their fates in the hands of "chaos"

>>25901467
of course you did... totally believe you.

>>25901056
that's projection

>>25901536
>We observed no symptomatic reinfections in a cohort of healthcare workers.
kys
you are so obviously a shill, you will get what you deserve in the end

>>25898043
Yes you fucking idiot we are well aware people can die of comorbidities while having covid, and guess what, those are also going up because of full hospital beds, ppl avoiding emergency room etc. dying from the virus itself is a small part of the burden

The fact that /biz/ still believes in wuhan flu just goes to show how low IQ this board is.

>>25897408
I lost my sense of smell/taste for about a week in November. I worked cold nights in Chicagoland as a tradie the whole time. Literally no other symptoms since. I weigh over 450lbs, an absolute fatass. I should have been devastated shouldn't I?

>>25901656
on a sample so low which they admit practically mean nothing... that's what i mean about waiting to see clear picture.
i expect the worst but will take the best outcome gladly.

meanwhile covid deniers are exposing themselves to the full darwin treatment.

>>25901536
>we don't really know shit

B-b-but trust the science!!!! Reeeeee!!!! Science knows everything!!! Reeeeee!!!!!

>>25901484
Thank god someone with a brain

>>25901613
now you know how everyone else feels when you start trying to bullshit that this is anything worse than a mild flu

lets see your returns, btw.

>>25901716
>I lost my sense of smell/taste for about a week in November.
that shit happened to me in september i think. that's when i took the first pcr test. i shown every symptom of covid pretty much except heavy breathing and still negative.

could have been anything else.

>>25898124
Have you heard of the great reset? Nothing shady going on bro.

>>25901719
you are the denier of science there is no correlation between stringency of npi and mortality https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/

there is no unsual excess mortality
no unusual icu
if you applied the mass testing pcr and high ct case to any other flu season you could've created this with any other flu season

>>25897408
You’re a liar. You’re evil. You deserve to have your throat slit. Till the day comes, I shake in excitement to know that you’ll tremble in fear as my blade nears your stupid fucking throat.

>>25901674
>full hospital beds
hospital beds are always full. Resources that go unused are cut from budget. That's how a hospital, like anything else, works.

>ppl avoiding emergency room
so maybe a zealous fear campaign isn't the best way to go about things?

>>25901860

>>25900855
With this same logic most people don’t have cancer, have never had it, some have it and they don’t even die, so why are we treating them? ALS only affects 1 in a 100000, why try and cure it? Do you even hear yourself?

>>25901484
>That doesn't mean it's acceptable that they die now. 30% of hospital inpatients are in their final year of life - does that mean we should just not treat them?

Imagine we had the same sense of compassion for our youth whose futures we're selling out by destroying their livelihoods and economic futures to keep a bunch of 75 year olds alive a few more years.

>>25901759
some flu variants will also fuck you up bad. even tho most people don't take the flu seriously it depends on what you catch. can easily kill you even if you are young and healthy.

covid is nothing special really it's just an other virus we are not used to that is asymptomatic for too long and has too high r0. which is why it became a pandemic. a very mild one albeit.

that all said i don't want to catch it. not mortally afraid but enough report indicates it's bad for you even if you don't die to avoid it.

more worried about the next one because too many imbeciles downplay covid maybe a real lethal virus will spread like wildfire because of you morons.

>>25901899
because there is no demonstrated efficacy in lockdowns and obvious massive economic damage. https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/
for fuck sake how dumb are you cunts

>>25896932
It already resembles the common cold? Wtf

>>25901823
>You’re a liar. You’re evil. You deserve to have your throat slit.
and you are off your meds m8 like totally batshit crazy.
>I shake in excitement to know that you’ll tremble in fear as my blade nears your stupid fucking throat.
fucking schizos

>>25897016
Jeff bezo made billions and he does own some media company. I think a newspaper?

>>25896972
big brain take

>>25901956
in my country they emptied out the hospitals cancelled all elective surgery and anything that could be postponed. sent real sick people home to fend for themselves. some of the excess mortality is because of this i bet.

governments really went full retard on this one.

>>25901917

>>25897127
That's the most expensive free money you'll ever get.

>>25899591
Shit ain’t that the truth. Everywhere I go here,
>one post by this ID
>2-3 sentences, not much effort
>anything to do with something that’s a hot topic.
I didn’t think the skills were real for a long time but now I do. Fucking kill them all.

>>25896972
trump is out. reopen the economy its only the common cold. amerimutt politics are peak autism. no other country in the world plays this retarded sort of childs game

>>25902026
>>25899702

yes and they will try and perpetuate the scam by attributing the excess mortality they caused with their unscientific policies to covid which was over in 2020

>>25898451
It honestly saddens me how for a place that does get some things right most normal places don't, it makes up for it with huge conspiracy retardation copes

>>25901860
Okay look, I agree the cure shouldn’t be worse than the disease and I think there have been some pretty insane policies. However, 0.6% infection fatality rate is laughed off on this board when really if you extend that to millions of people that is a lot of fucking corpses. And, I’m sure someone else has made this point, we really don’t understand long term implications of the virus. For all we know everyone with Covid could have explosive diarrhea in ten years time and die out (I’m being hyperbolic Obvs). The point being it’s better to overreact then underreact. Similar to global warming, if we don’t do anything and we’re fucked in ten years that sucks, if we DO do something and it’s a nothing burger I’d argue that’s a better outcome

>>25901981
>spreads blatant lies
>I’m the schizo for being angry about it
You know that people like yourself will be easy to identify. Easy to spot.
I literally smile knowing that people like you will perish soon fucking faggit.

>>25898443
tell the people in quebec who face a 6k dollar fine for going outside that. you blind fuck. they are picking china now, dont you see? the WEF is moving to fucking asia next year. thats why they destroyed everyones fucking economy you idiot. we didnt fall for the green energy meme, so they did covid.

you will line up to own nothing because you wont believe such an idea could exist until it does

>>25899318
You have aids, faggot retard. That has nothing to do with the chink flu, you pozzed fucking redditor

>>25897989
> while they were already unwell with something else
> threw a massive clot down her femoral artery and almost lost her entire leg.
Really clever b8

>>25902165
Oooh you're trolling us. Good one

>>25897016
big brain take

>>25902059
this. The corruption is astounding
https://news.yahoo.com/cuomo-says-york-must-reopen-223303731.html

>>25896932

>Once immunity is widespread

>>25902076
it's not a scam it's just completely mismanaged by idiots. we had enough covid deniers that were put on ventilators later and could tell us about how they changed their opinion on it. it's was funny and sad. and there are way too many people that struggle getting back to normal after pulling though.

i keep telling people to just fucking wait and see. it's not long now. everybody and their mother is making vaccines. what i want to see how effective are these long term. fuck getting shots every year...

>>25902165
>we should deliberately make extremely negative cost benefit decisions
no

>>25901956
Projection at its finest. Yes, economy is taking a shit and we probably could have handled it better. Has the lock down been effective in preventing disease? Fucking unquestionably. You must be kidding. “The fat emperor”? Can you provide a nature review to substantiate this wild claim? Unreal. Classic midwit thinking he’s smarter than he is

>>25897016
Wall Street invented covid as a cover for the crash, if people thought it was due to troublesome fundamentals rather than covid there wouldn’t have been a V-shaped recovery.

>>25902173
just take your meds and all will be better

>>25897438
The good guys lost in 1945. We're living in (((their))) world now.

>>25902310
It is a scam, you faggot ass shill.
Why don't you take one of your vaccines and ram it up your asshole, you literal big pharma cock holster

>>25902165
grow some ballhair and stop living at the mercy of an ideology of speculative fear.

also climate change qua existential crisis is complete fucking bogus.

Sun activity is the primary driver of climate, the relationship between co2 and temperature increase in logarithmic, co2 is good for crop yields, the poles aren't supposed to have any ice on them at all, we were in an ice-age, if coast-lines are reclaimed by the sea that's bullish for real estate development, winds energy is ugly and inefficient, solar energy is years away and production is toxic for the environment, the only real energy-conscious solution is nuclear which nobody ever wants to talk about, plus the earth is in constant danger of black swan environment crises (meteor, volcano, etc) and the smartest course of action is for industry to blow full steam ahead and start developing technologies which can modify the weather, environment, etc. I could go on.

>>25902358
>Has the lock down been effective in preventing disease?
no you unempircal moron it is not even associated with mortality.
Why don't you look at the linked papers you shill.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.22.20160341v3

>>25902418
i'm not gonna take the vaccines for now but i won't stop others from doing so. i was ever since march on the opinion to just wait and see what works and what not.

stay the fuck home avoid crowds avoid contact. wear the mask in enclosed spaces so to minimize the chance to spread it.

that's all we can do.

there have been no end to the most idiotic emergency rules during this shit tho. i too am pissed about it don't think i'm not. but downplaying covid won't help one bit.

>>25902358
you dumb faggot
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.25.20248853v1
https://www.datascienceassn.org/content/illusory-effects-non-pharmaceutical-interventions-covid19-europe (submitted to nature)

>>25902358
Where's your evidence that lockdowns work when Sweden never had any and still has a lower amount of covid related deaths than most European countries who did have lockdowns?

>>25897627
Masks are effective mongoloid. That’s what countries like singapore, australia and NZ did

>>25902607

>>25902566
No, fuck you. You faggots and your 2 more weeks to flatten the curve bullshit are delusional and should be eradicated with extreme prejudice. Fuck you and your big pharma and jew media handlers, you crypto kike.
You can choose to live in fear of a literal flu, but the rest of us sane people won't bend the knee to you sick fucks any longer

>>25897016
*chainlink
dont tell me you didnt see CZ get a million links for $0...

>>25902672
no they're not
>>25898714
>>25901379

>>25902679
>muh cases per day are increasing
Yes, that's not what I said, now did I, niggerfaggot? Learn to read you dumb gorilla nigger

>>25902690
jesus you cretins are all off your rocks
trump getting btfo unhinged you this much?
lol

>>25902503
>cites ONE paper
>doesn’t understand how to critically appraise scientific literature
>doesn’t acknowledge in the same paper substantially higher relative risk of recovery for lockdown vs. Non lockdown

Stunning

>>25896932
It's not a common cold.

>>25897989
no use in telling these retards. my friend is also a doctor and says blood clots are a big deal. but again, these retards wont understand that.

>>25898157
>he does not know what a break is
Anon why do you have to be a mongoloid ffs?

>>25902735
>changing relationship between case icu
I posted that image in support of your argument

>>25902770
yes. it's the nucold

>>25902503
>>25902576
Oops sorry anon will evaluate the others one moment pls

Dear God,
Pls destroy even more small business so my Mcdonalds and Yum(TM) brands stocks can keep growing, and let the money printer never run out of ink.
Amen.

>>25902746
I bet you love how Biden is planning a mandatory 6 week lockdown once he takes office, don't you tranny?
What will you do in those 6 weeks, I wonder? Now that the orange man will be gone, dems have no need for you freaks anymore

>>25902754
there is zero evidence for your point you unempirical retard

there is no correlation between lockdown and mortality let alone justified cost benefit analysis

and correlation of recovery is not causation nor is it justified by the cost

>>25902690
btw i personally think we are having this pandemic still exactly because retards like you don't take it seriously and don't give a fuck about spreading it. more disciplined counties like korea and japan shown it didn't need to be such a big deal.

>>25902832
i have linked 27 papers here https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/ but you are too dumb to click the links yourself

>>25898502
Fuck me biz got overrun with poltards
Stop trying to convince the schizos around here there's no point.
They would rather lick donald trump's dick cheese.

>>25902896
i don't even know a fucking thing about biden and don't really care but a fucking dog would be better president than trump.

>>25896932
You are retarded, and/or this is a false flag. I’d expect to see this shit on /pol/ but... really?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/12/the-horror-stories-are-countless-inside-the-la-hospital-at-the-center-of-the-covid-crisis

>>25902955
there is no pandemic ffs >>25900367

>>25900725
I can't look it up right now but he posted a couple days ago that we can't wait for the virus to be distributed because we are destroying live and businesses and when they do open they're won't be anything to open. The idiot and those like him have been saying this for months that must close down hard and now suddenly out of nowhere this type of reasoning gets posted. May be political, may be economical, but you can't deny the fact that it's two faced.

>>25901467
Funny how we never get a breakdown of the age demographic of this virus.

>>25898451
>>25902127
Are we the only normal people in this thread? Why the fuck is 4chan getting more conspiracy schizo over time, not less. It used to be /pol/ was an ok containment board for this stuff but not any more. Fucking burgers idiocracy man. How do I short the US long term

>>25903072
>>25902031

>>25903006
>>25898977

>>25902969
>muh blumpf
holy shit trump is going to be gone and how in the hell will you strawman then??

>>25903182
>>25902285
they're just gonna stop the scam pcr tests

>>25897408
I would happily put a bullet in each of your children, while you watch.

I can be patient and wait until you have kids.

btw it will be legal when I do it

>>25898181
You too. Your kids? Dead.

You think it was funny to fuck around with the world? To play this fucking game? We will see who is laughing after you bury your children.

>>25903259
>>25903225
Ooh! Ooh! Do me next!

>>25903073
>cosnpireciez tehoritssssts
I'm guessing for you, bribes & corruption and hiding things from the public can only exist if it comes from Donald Trump, am I right? And everybody else must be angels according to you.
Don't ever open a newspaper, the shady dealings you'll read about will blow your mind.

I like how there are people in this thread that still blame people for not following rules as the reason we're still in this. It's like you suddenly believe every single person will follow the rules to a tee like a fucking lab rat. Blaming people for behaving like people. It's can't possibly be that this experiment of controlling the virus was haphazard and poorly thought out.

>>25897408
If you crunch the numbers, modern hospitals have probably killed more people and been responsible for more deaths as a consequence of super-bugs and antibiotic overuse than they've actually saved.

Humans are retarded, bro.

>>25902388
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>>25897408
Please just shut the fuck up. Covid is a joke, we never even came close to "overloaded hospitals" nurses had so much free time they made tik toks for fucks sake. Covid is no worse than the flu and all the propaganda in the world ismt going to change my mind. I know what I see with my own eyes, and despite having family in FL, MI, IN, OR, NC, SC, and PA, not a single person in my extended family has died, or even knows anyone who died. Im sorry but if this virus was even half as bad as the lugenpresse says it is, someone who have died. Even the spanish flu killed someone from every family. OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES. No one is dying, the navy hospital ships were never used, we never ran out of ventilators, and no hospitals were ever full. Complete and total psyop

>>25902896
>You won't get 2k stimulus!
>Lockdowns!
>They're gonna steal all the guns!
>Big Tech is censoring us!
God I wish 2016 you could see 2020 you right now. The meltdown has been fucking glorious.

>>25898962
Half of zoomers hate Israel because they love sand nigger cock, the other half hate Israel because they hate Jews.

>>25899318
lyme disease is a single name for 3 very different diseases concocted in a US bio weapon lab and accidentally released on long island to test tick dispersal. You could have anything from minor aches to death within weeks

>>25904719
post a picture of your face you incel fuckwit

>>25896932
That’s why I blow lines in every wet market bathroom I can find

>>25897016
no, it was for China to buy out countries that are broke
infrastructure, industry, etc

>>25897627
>masks don't work!
>there's no reason surgeons wear them before Corona, it's just to look cool!
Giga brainlet

>>25905661
>>25901379
>>25898714

Just over 2 years ago I came down with some virus that fucked me hard. We are talking waking up every morning with my entire body in agony. I was extremely weak for more than 3 months. I went to every specialist, I did ecgs, ecocardiograms, blood tests constantly did every test trying to figure out what the fuck I had. No doctor could say anything about it other all other vitals were normal and I had some of infection or virus I have no doubt fucked up viruses and shit exist like they always have but corona is the biggest scam. I knew it was a scam the second they let major retailers stay open and forced every small business to close. Even if they provided, 'essential' services like a fruit and veg shop. No compensation given and fines if they tried to open. Yes goy your local fresh produce store is dangerous and must close but our duopoly supermarkets can open.

>4.2k people died in the U.S. today
Almost to a double 9/11 a day.

>>25905661
also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

>>25897989
I have a very large network due to my line of work and social media following. Here’s my take:

-I’ve known roughly 100 people in my network and family/friends who have gotten COVID.
-Two deaths, both older men over 65 who had prior health issues, one survived cancer
-5 hospitalizations
-Probably 20 of those were pretty darn sick, as In unable to work/had to rest.
-Can’t estimate long term effects but would guess roughly 5-20%, certainly not anything like 50%

COVID is clearly a virus that potentially can kill really vulnerable people or high risk, and may cause long term effects in a small subset. But it’s certainly not the death plague we were sold. I’m pretty sure I had it, even though I did a self test and it was negative but I was really freaking sick with symptoms two months ago for like a week. But I certainly am fine now. It’s not worth shutting down the nation over whatsoever and these masks are dumb

>>25897989
Throwing a clot down the largest fucking ARTERY in the leg is indicative of some pretty fucking huge medical issues dude.

>>25897989
>Artery
Thrombotic embolism is VENOUS you fucking LARP.

>>25902896
I'll stay inside like I have been the last 8 months you fucking nigger worshipping faggot

Theyll do it again, got a fucking zombie army to police their shit

>>25898124
>t-take your meds! there's no cabal!

>>25896932
I see they're beginning the walkback and messaging to end the panic. Oh how the puppetmasters make the normalfags dance and leap at a whim.

>>25898451
this is 4channel

>>25896932
I SAID THIS 9 MONTHS AGO

>>25902001
he owns washington post

>>25896932
>Thinks its about the virus

>>25897016
absolute truth

Corona virus is real you goddamned retards. Holy fuck.