/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25848749
>>25848662
>>25848506

Why don't we just set up an xmpp conversation? IRC seems pretty shit for our purposes. Signal could work too, but it would require manually adding iirc

An irc chat with pmg frens sound like a good deal.

>>25848977
>xmpp
>IRC
I have no idea what either of those things are
>t. 20 year old boomer

>>25848881
When in doubt, always remember USA and the dollar are fucked.

88oz of silver and 0.8 oz of gold. 600€ this month to put in pm, should I buy 25 oz of silver or 12g of gold ?

>>25849053
my ocd says 12 oz of silver and 0.2 oz of gold, then whatever you like, but only round numbers please

So, did Trump's EO affect anything today?

Somebody add me on XMPP: schiffsbastardson@yax.im
I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of xmpp as a backup

>>25849151
weeeeak mind

>>25849217
Wondering this myself. The effects may take weeks to months to be perceptible.

I want to see all the anime and music and screenshots in /pmg/'s XDCC bots

>>25848881
I pre ordered a 2021, 1/4 oz American eagle.
It'll be my first .999 gold bit.

Are we being high jacked by trannies now

>>25849454
>It'll be my first .999 gold bit.
Does someone wanna tell him?

>>25849043

Saved and buying mining stocks this week. I was wondering if I should buy some more silver coins or try out Leaf Mining companies.

>>25849628
i mean it comes with the right amount of gold, just not the purity. which makes it a subjectively better coin

>>25849053
Stay focused on Silver, people like Bix Weir is convinced silver and gold are going to a 1:1 ratio due to future technology needing silver and alltough i dont see it happening he still might be right.

Pac Man Fever

>>25849628
No, we'll let him find out

Am I retarded for planning to buy a house in 2021? Have any fellow stackers purchased (mortgaged) a home recently? Tired of gf and I wasting money on rent. I've got down payment cash sitting in savings that I want to allocate to PMs. I could buy a shit ton of PMs, but I dont feel like buying them if I plan on cashing it back out later this year, and get screwed on premiums, etc. I know we're all expecting The Big One very soon, but it doesn't seem reasonable to put off buying a home with the expectation of timing the market. Stack is currently fledgling panner tier based on the image that gets posted here.

>>25849795
I want to believe because I would be wealthy beyond my wildest dream but Bix is a nutter desu lol

>>25849795
>>25849151
I'll go for the silver then, thanks anon

>>25849872
>Am I retarded for planning to buy a house in 2021?
Depends on your portfolio. 2021-24 should be a decent timing. I'm going to guess closer to 2022-2023

>>25849714
lmao. you guys are *not* gonna make it. no offense. I fell for the miners meme (muh bull market with 100x gains). Uh, turns out crypto was the bull market all along and you guys mkultra'd people into buying this manipulated jew shit.

this >>25849979 is a strong buy signal

>>25849872
I was in your position a while back. Wish I had bought more land and less house. Perhaps bought somewhere more rural and remote. There are pros and cons to both renting and buying a house, but the third option, which I feel like is not as widely discussed or considered, is buying raw rural land and placing a mobile home on it.

Friendly reminder we cannot lose.

>>25850234
Great tax benefit on the mobile home, but that's all I know. What other benefits? How to mitigate safety downsides?

Buying 100 1oz silver coins separately is 400$ less than the monster box of 100 1oz silver coins
Is there a reason for that?

im sure i can buy an empty box and tubes for less than 400$ or is there something im missing?

>>25849979

>>25849928
>>25850234
Thanks. Will take into consideration. Will have to buy in the suburbs for now cause we need proximity to urban job market, but a separate land acquisition is definitely being considered and will happen in near future

PAN MAN, when does the Q1 miner's list drop? Any from this list you would cut now?

>>25850695
probably February / March as thats when a lot of the juniors and mid tier companies start getting things in order for the spring exploration season. Its also when you can weed out the juniors that went dormant or were taken over the winter.

>>25850615
The nose knows

Did I miss something with miners? My portfolio dropped almost 15% today. Just took some time for the pm value decline to hit?

>>25850921
Did something go on with the market while I was busy? Its been crabbing all day?

>>25849898
>but Bix is a nutter
And what makes him a nutter?

>>25851510
> <1:1 gsr

>>25850921
>Did I miss something with miners? My portfolio dropped almost 15% today. Just took some time for the pm value decline to hit?
Is your portfolio literally all gayhorse

>>25849217
Probably not cause the Fed more than likely kept them afloat. There were 0 arrests today and that was in the EO. Either it's happening behind the scenes or the breucrats won

>>25850921
Mostly down by 10%. for me.
Defiance is down 20%, I'm trying to figure out why.

>>25851713
who was supposed to be arrested? Chinese stocks?

>>25851713
most likely the bureaucrats won

>>25849027
>>t. 20 year old boomer
you're a zoomer and we are lost because you can't even google. no offense but irc was a thing 15 years ago. the average joe could at least use it. script kiddies incapable of programming used it as command and control server.

>>25851925
kek irc is for literal boomers. It's like yelling at someone for not knowing how to ride a horse. Fuck you. Its outdated.

>>25851440
>Did something go on with the market while I was busy? Its been crabbing all day?

miners got hit again, like an average of -6% or so. not as bad as friday but still bad. ive had some -25% losses evaporate over the past 2 trading days. big oof

>>25851629
Yeah. It was a bad day, but not THAT bad. Most PM shares lost at MOST 2~2.5%.

Daily Reminder that Honest Value Never Fails.

>>25852145
Now is a good time to see which miners are held in strong hands. If it's only down a bit then you should allocate more towards those in the future

>>25852227
Although a few did a little better, and a few worse. But on the average, you’d have to have been exceptionally unlucky to lose more than 3%.

here's mine :)

>>25852259
PAAS didn’t do great today, but on the whole it seems to do well in the long run. DESU I’m not sure if it’s fair to judge a stock by one-day swings.

>>25852231
it also never rises

>>25852055
and what do people use today? twitter? fb? ig? maybe if you write a kind letter to them they'll allow you to talk about metals in general and exclude hateful statements about jpm, rigged silver prices or sound money.

>>25852268

>>25852259

Biggest losers today were Defiance, Dolly Varden, Aftermath, Abraplata, Southern Silver with each at -9% or more and Defiance -15%

>>25852386
The less worse would be discord I think

About to Buy first stack
100$ face value merc dimes
1 1oz AGE gold coin
100 1oz ASE silver coins
1 10oz silver bar
1 100oz silver bar
little under 10k usd
Fuck I feel nervous lol

>>25852268
>>25852227
Man you've got lots of them. I'm only working with about 12k so I try to keep it condensed
>>25852320
Sounds like PAAS traders had week hands, maybe since it's a major and has a higher volume, more speculators buy into it. After all, 40% of 100k is still more than 80% of 10k.

But for long term trades, you're right. I guess it just seems logical that if a stock dumped less than similar ones on a general down day, then it's has more support at it's current price

>>25852268
those are all like major miners... they dont rise and fall as much as small caps and explorers

Well boys, I sold my silver stack. It was nice playing with you boys. I'm lucky to have locked in my sale price last thursday.

>>25852502
>Merc dimes
This guy gets it

>>25852386
what's your address and please post stack

>>25851629
kek I stopped coming by and smg has completed its merger with pmg

It's too hard to keep up with these threads, and I've been finding fun shit on other imageboards.

Its all so distracting

>>25852502
Ya I felt nervous when I bought my first stack and than felt like shit for seeing fiat in my bank account go down but than realized that fiat is fake money and PM always have value so now I feel great for making a wise financial decision.

>>25852657
y

>>25849872
>Have any fellow stackers purchased (mortgaged) a home recently?
Yeah I did last year. I'm pretty terrified but the deed is done and we'll see where it goes

>>25852673
lol
>>25852802
nervous but it feels good too

question for anyone here
are 1oz silver bars worth it?
i can fit a few in my cart before i hit price limit

>>25852970
>1oz silver bars worth it?
yes

imo..
1.Silver Eagles
2.Bars - 1/10/100 OZ
3. Morgan Dollars/Peace Dollars
4. Constitutional Silver

but desu all of those choices are good

>>25852802
I think hoarding any physical asset gives you a sense of satisfaction on some sort of primal, monke level that numbers or paper just don’t. You have daily, proven confirmation of your wealth in a non-abstract form.

I also understand much better now how people get into hoarding other physical objects that are easy on the eye, like antiques, furniture, first edition books, etc, why women love jewelry, why African big men were proud to own many heads of cattle, as did many of our ancestors...

>>25852970
>>25853214
1 oz bars make me irrationally angry because rounds are an objectively better format for 1 oz. When you actually hold them they feel so fucking stupid in that shape

>>25853392
i didnt even think about rounds..
i prefer bars overall but a few rounds might be good to add

Tomorrow is the 10 yr auction. If there is a crazy bidding war there, it will drive yields low and help gold. If there isn't, then there will be temporary pain before the Fed inevitably starts some sort of yield control.

>>25852231
based ship coins!

>>25853392
yeah 1oz bars really are shit

>>25852823
I have made more gains in crypto and stocks than I did with silver and gold. I learned you get jewed so hard when you sell it back. It looks like it might dip below $20 soon

>>25853392
lol'd

personally, i'm not attracted to rounds.
i don't think they're bad, but they sometimes seem to come from questionable sources
i do like coins, especially Eagles. but you pay a premium for them.
which, i'm ok with. i hope to sit on them for a long time if not for my entire life.

>>25853650
i like 1 oz bars.
what i think is awkward and shit shaped is 5 oz rounds.

1oz bars rise up

never had 1oz rounds or 1oz bars
added 4 rounds and 2 bars to cart
ill see which i like more hen i get them

>>25853814

>>25853864
nice! well, except for the doll
Engelhard is a solid and trusted name

>>25853864
Nice
>>25853909
But yukari is the point of the cage
>>25850816
Thanks pan man.

>>25853977
>yukari
is that your doll's name?
your doll has a name??

>>25854051
No, it is after an anime. https://gup.fandom.com/wiki/Yukari_Akiyama

>>25854051
shes not a doll.
Yukari is guardian of the stack
and keeper of the vault.

>>25854133
oh!
i watched that a few years ago and kinda enjoyed it
>>25854196
k bro

>>25852502
I felt weird the first time I did it too back in 2009. It's so worth it to understand you don't need to keep your cash sitting in the bank while they destroy the value of the dollar. Also, any habit you have to collect can be funnelled into PMs so you end up not even really losing money on collectible hobbies.

>>25852145
ENDR is up.

Acoomulate while you can.

Order confirmed
my Journey to Dragon status begins lol
in a week or two ill add more gold and bars

>>25853909

>>25848881
Just bought a bunch of these for close to spot price did I make a mistake?

>>25854264
>It's so worth it to understand you don't need to keep your cash sitting in the bank while they destroy the value of the dollar.
100% this

>>25852318
too diversified for such little money.

Go balls deep on barbell or stay home.

>>25854320
Wow that’s qt.

For close to spot, if it doesn’t look like shit I’d call it a win.

>>25849872
My offer was just accepted on a timer frame home in Vermont. Very excited for the future.

>>25854196
This pic makes me miss my silver, gats, and asuna

>>25854196
friendly reminder that these are the other people who are also "investing" in gold/silver + mining stocks. kek. and you wonder why people hate Schiff so much.

>>25854320
any silver is better than no silver
some buyers wont care and will just pay you spot no matter if its an ASE, a Canadian Silver Maple Leaf, or a generic round.

>>25854319
10 oz are a nice size
100 oz are pretty nice too though

my opinion is: buy whatever you can and as often as you can and hold onto it for as long as you can.
just keep buying and stacking

>>25854410
I hate an anime fag as much as the next guy but those correlations are all in your mind.

How many anime faggots invested in Efferium?

>>25854410
I don’t get it.

Are gold and silver still a good buy right now? I’m sitting in bonds not making shit. I like the stability since I’m on the verge of retirement, but gold and silver seem comfy with the volatility in the US right now.

>anime haters on 4chin

>>25853615
>based ship coins!
I see how it is Yukari, you went from midnight rape and now think you're innocent?

>>25854520
>Are gold and silver still a good buy right now?

They'll tell you that physical is always a good buy, but I'm telling you after the past 2 trading days to wait for things to settle down as we move further in the week

>>25854590
innocent until proven guilty

>>25853770
>i like 1 oz bars.
>what i think is awkward and shit shaped is 5 oz rounds.
Are the 5oz ATB the best format to travel across borders?
>yes sir I have $800USD of currency to declare
>suitcases full of 16,000oz of silver

>>25854520
You mean short term credit right? You're not sitting in 30 year Treasuries right?

>>25854704
It says intermediate term

>>25854398
>absence make the heart grow fonder
someday the reunion will be much the sweeter

>>25853615
I have one of the Columbus Halves too. Not in good shape, but I couldn't pass it up for a dollar above junk.

>>25854472
lots, probably. I hold Zcash, though and I'm sure some XMR fag will call me a fag. At least I don't collect dolls?

>>25854687
Unironically genius

>>25854759
I'd just buy enough gold/silver to put your mind at ease and then try and find a full service broker that can do steady with the rest of it. No sense in getting too risky right before retirement. Maybe put some more in a commodity producer index.

>>25854787
nice. I love those ship coins
showing some age and wear just makes a coin more nostalgic for me

>>25852500
isn't it for trannies only? i never used it.

>>25852671
>what's your address and please post stack
i'm not running an irc server and i don't want to use it. i liked sms.

>>25854893
Maybe instead of putting extra money every month into bonds I can start buying gold and silver. Just leave my bonds alone.

>>25854785
Indeed, thanks fren

>>25853977
always remember to, bring up interesting projects for the list. New junior explorers, new discoveries and operators too. I can only snoop around so much.

Should I be buying bars? These vendors seem to have a lot of brands and stuff.

>>25855190
>Should I breathe?

>>25855190
I will be
bought most of my coins today
maybe add another gold coin or two but for the most part ill be sticking to bars

>Jim Rickards forecasting 150 gsr
When will this cia funded hack go into the background? All he ever does in interviews is name drop

>>25855349
Is there an advantage to buying a brand or coin? Isn’t buying bars or by weight the same thing?

>>25848996
Seconding IRC

>>25848977
Does XMPP support group conversations?

>>25854304
What is ENDR?

>>25848881
You retards do know musk is about to make it literally rain gold right?

>>25855086
I've talked about many of these before a bunch but I'll just pile on some interesting tickers for anybody who wants to have a look at some promising projects.
AWE, MEK, BHT, SHL, MOON, ME, NHK, BRC, MTH, GRSL, SCLT, SAG, FCO

Remember DD anons!

>>25855086
Slam Exploration?

>>25850038
taking out my 401k now personally

>>25855599
Thanks anon, I’ll look into these.

>>25855615
>>25855599
thank you I ll add these to the list to look through.

>>25855487
Others could answer better than I but as i understand it
you can by bars for cheaper than coins because of the premiums. But i think coins are easier to sell/barter
As for brand i think thats like most products, you are just paying a little more for the name. which i would also assume means easier to sell/barter
but dont quote me, im new lol

>>25854910
You can get nicely toned, worn Canadian dimes pretty cheaply if you want them.

>>25855445
>150 gsr
This could just be incredibly bullish for gold though

>>25854796
>At least I don't collect dolls?
this

>>25851629
Butthorse didn't even rally during the rally what a dogshit stock

Damn rick rule just called IMPACT tiny

>>25855681
I heard Ontario had a lockdown. You leaving panman?

>>25855881
i don't think you belong here

>>25855972
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/quebec-couple-hit-with-curfew-violation-fine-after-wife-walks-husband-on-a-leash-1.5262178

>>25855775
>Canadian dimes
i'd go for US if you're looking at stacking junk/constitutional silver
but you do you

>>25856002
bro, fine..
collect your dolls and your bad dragons
let your freak flag fly homey

>>25855972
no BC's under lockdown but its no where near what Ontario and Quebec are doing right now. Those places are fucked, major protests will be starting in the coming days thats for sure. BC hasnt bothered with a hard lock down because people are so spread out here it wont help.

>>25856074
kek

>>25855487
The typical thought is you can sell a silver more easily or for more to someone if it's well known, like an ASE if you're American versus a Covid 2020 round or something, but you're also paying a higher premium.

Junk/constitutional silver is a nice compromise as the premiums are low but everyone knows what they are. A good test would be to see how easily you could sell a ASE versus a Chautauqua Silver Works/generic
round.

>>25855086
Baru and HAWK.V might be worth a peek though I'm basing that on very little

>>25850662
Idk if you are still here anon but thinking back on it home prices are the only things that didn't crash in March when everything else did. Real estate is a slow mover and markets vary a lot depending on location so take the advice here with a grain of salt. Don't try to time the market on buying a house, time could have been spent starting a family and planting fruit trees. If the big crash does come well thats why you also have PMs to pay off the mortgage. Just make sure you get a fixed rate mortgage.

What's with these obnoxious normies in my pmg? Friends of Big Bob and his cunt brother?

>>25856083
Those dimes were part of an Ebay lot I bought a while ago. If you want them for the asthetic of having a worn, toned coin with a boat on it, they're only $1-2 a piece.

>>25856159
Those COVID 2020 rounds went fucking fast, I remember debating grabbing some to flip for their premiums. They were trading quite a bit above spot IIRC

>>25856159
I havent heard of Baru Gold yet but Hawkeye gold and diamond are not going to be on my list unless they can gain more solid funding. Their last year of exploration work nearly bankrupted them as they couldnt secure funding for exploration work, they ended up only being able to pay for one diamond drill, and their last sets of assay results were never published because they couldnt pay for them. I also talked to my guys at MORE CORE drilling who worked on that project and they said the entire thing was a shambles. I beieve they got drilling permits for this season out on their property near Red Chris Mine, but I have yet to see if they can actually fund themselves this time.

>>25848881
> cryptofags BTFO
> cryptofags flexing on n00bs losing $14 while their own portfolios are down 30k
> Ag/Au smashed down
> my miner stonks are still up (tks PAN MAN)
> just bought 6oz of copper in the shape of ethereum to further flex on cryptofags down the line.

feeling comfy boys ngl

>>25856321
Yeah I wasn't convinced with Hawkeye in the slightest either. Trash bin tier.

>>25855907
He has said this in regards to Dolly Varden too. Called it a “toy mine.” I’m not sure why he says this.

>>25856321
Do you ever call up companies to ask them questions? What kind of questions do you ask?

>>25856244
>What's with these obnoxious normies in my pmg?
Salty over Bitcoin dropping 28% perhaps.

>>25856217
>home prices are the only things that didn't crash in March
It's a huge combination of urban exodus, fed/bank interventionalism, and fiscal policy. I wouldn't discount prices only going up in RE, but it will be increasingly inefficient and for lack of a better word "bullshit". It's definitely in the cards and likely that home prices stay level, especially when commodities prices and labor costs are going to keep rising, but there's no guarantees and the reasons for continued price stability are likely bad and unhealthy given our population distributions and current business environment.

>>25856433
Yukari anon on the side along side weeb rounds. Man that looks good. Especially the seuis kilo bars.

>>25856276
i wouldn't turn them down for a good price.
i believe they're 90+% silver prior to 1920

>>25856278
>COVID 2020 rounds
the National Park of American Samoa Quarter?
the ones from West Point (W) will retain the most value. and i believe all 2M of them were put directly into circulation
the ones from Philly (P) may still end up going for a premium over face at some point

fucking boomers

>>25856389
I do this all the time, usually though its emails to their geology department asking specifics about the project geology. I do phone in often as well but its not always successful. You leave a message a few times and they eventually get back to you.
>>25856364
yea they just need funding, but at their project size and corporate side they wont be getting much soon.

>>25856617
>yea they just need funding
No, I don't mean financing. I'm not confident in their operations either. I wouldn't invest even if they had financing for two years, I don't think they have the goods.

*ruins your coin*

>>25856670
yes totally agreed. look how small their land packages are, and how scattered they are as well.
http://www.hawkeyegold.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/HAWK-GT-website-image-May-27-2018.pdf

Their barkerville district ground is just as bad too
http://www.hawkeyegold.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/HAWK-Claims-in-red-and-BGM-in-blue-May-30-2018.pdf

I am also watching these guys because their Golden Triangle and Barkerville land packages are coming due soon, if they cant pay up or dont submit assessment work for them than they loose everything. Might be able to snap up some cheap land.

>>25856367
>>25855907

"Rick Rule's free analysis of a list of juniors sent to him is nothing but a marketing ploy. They all come back rated 4-6 on a scale of 10. It's no better than 50% chance of rain.

Anyone who has ever sent their portfolio to RR for his free analysis knows that he is very conservative in his recommendations. For example, here's what he thinks about IRV (as of Oct. 2020): "Way overvalued for what they have at this stage. They don't have one good significant drill intersection yet. Only narrow ones and that does not justify their MC.

OTOH, maybe I saved a few lurkers here from experiencing the disappointment I felt when I got back his "absolutely free" portfolio review. Some things are worth exactly what you pay for them.

His rating for all junior exploration companies probably starts at 5! CYA right? He gives Newmont a 5 ;).

If you listen to RR's interviews he makes it very clear that he is not a fan of the Juniors at all. His motto is buy the best of the best and leave the rest. That always means buying things like Wheaton. If you followed his ranking system then you would most likely never own a single Junior mining stock. Juniors do not trade at their known gold reserve price they trade at a perceived value based upon potential, so in his book they will always have too high of a market cap. If you own a lot of the Major Producers then his comments will be of value but if you are investing in the Juniors then getting his comments/rankings is just going to be an exercise in frustration and you are going to miss some very good investment opportunities IMO.

I mean if you want a good laugh RR gave LIO a ranking of 7 and then said " Not a fan of. Their deposit is to small for my liking". Okey Dokey Rick we'll see how that works out."

>>25856785
Would be fun if you could snatch that property next to Skeena from these frauds!

>>25854520

Bonds are the worst possible place to be in an environment of high inflation and an impending currency crisis. If you buy bonds you are going to lose literally all your money.

>>25854520
Bonds are a terrible long term investment! I hope you know what you're doing,

I really don't understand how hsbc et al is letting gold sit in backwardation. It should be way to risky for them

>>25856877
That would be the case, if it is not an inflation linked bond. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/bonds/09/inflation-linked-bonds.asp
Of course, the fed will mess up the inflation number but it is somethin

>>25856933

Real CPI inflation is already 10% vs the lying 2%, imagine when it's 60% or 100%.

>>25856911
So what should I move to? 2 years to retirement. They have been in for like a year.

thoughts on DSVMF - Discovery Metals Corp?
a couple of my friends invested on the recommendation of another friend
i didn't see anything about them that looks promising.. + Mexico

>>25856978
All bond money into PM.

>>25856217
>home prices are the only things that didn't crash in March when everything else did
Thats been a key data point floating in the back of my mind. With Fed rates near zero, my understanding is that home prices will continue to rise, and I would obviously want to take advantage of the low rates too. Area im looking at is one of the fastest growing metro areas in the US (think Denver, Phoenix, Austin), so prices have been rising quickly and inventory moves quick. Seems like the momentum will continue for a while. Would hate to be in a negative equity situation, but if the big one happens, PMs could feasibly pay off the mortgage, or even could acquire a second rental property. Such a big risk, but I feel like you have to pull the trigger at some point and just ride it out kek.

>>25856978
Depends on how much money you have in bonds and at what price you bought I'd say. Bonds can be a good short-term investment right now -- depending on whether the Fed will turn on the printers and push down interest rates again (they likely will)

>>25856999
Checked. One of the bigger junior silver plays out there. I don't know too much about the company but it's talked about a bunch here. Might be good, I think they had big resources and a lot of exploration potential not sure. Some other anons can probably shill it to you real good but in the end remember to do your own due diligence

>>25856217
I've heard that has to do with the fact that very few people are looking to sell in a pandemic which means a huge shrinkage in supply of homes in addition to the absurdly low interest rates being offered.

>>25856970
I bought a 6 pack of miller light for $9 at a grocery store this weekend

>>25856816
Who's quote is this?

>>25856978
IMO >>25857008 is too risky in that sense. I would put enough into physical metal to sleep at night and then put a healthy chunk into gold/silver major mutual funds and the rest in global index funds. In your situation you need to think about how much cash you will need two years out and plan very accordingly.

>>25850038
>>25855649
You guys want to buy some Libertads? I got a shit load still. APMEX was offering an insulting amount compared to the ebay price for double reverse proofs

>>25857080
So should I just hang onto the bonds for a bit longer? Their risk rating from where I got them is a 2/5 where lower number is less risk.

>>25857132
i've had my eye on it since it was brought to my attention a few months back
honestly, in the past i only considered irl silver, but i'm starting to have second thoughts

>>25857238
>Libertads
are these legit? i'm so suspicious about anything coming out of Mexico

>>25856999
I owned them for months but just recently sold them. May regret it in hindsight but their market cap is a little large for my liking, plus there is the fact that Don Durrett, who is one of the most prominent analysts in the PM/mining investment community, has said that he believes they may sell to a larger mining company at some point, thus limiting their potential upside to a modest 3x vs a 10x-plus. Also, their silver deposit is enormous, but is not very high-grade, so there's that. Certainly a great company to invest in but if you're looking for silver plays with massive upside, there are probably better options right now.

>>25857223
What percent breakdown in each category would you probably do?

>>25857223
Silver and gold are highly liquid. Bonds are not great in my opinion. You can just liquidate the PM later when it gains value in this commodities super cycle.

>>25857223
This. Keep two years cash on hand
Buy physical metal with the remainder and hold. In two years time your metal will outperform your bond holdings. I would personally go 70/30 gold/silver if you're #1 priority is wealth preservation

>>25857176

Various mining insiders on ceo.ca, I collected the quotations together.

>>25857172

There's also the "shrinkflation" phenomenon where they keep the price the same but reduce the quantity of food or drink.

>>25850318
most of physical metal sales is about scamming the other person as much as you can

>>25857289
bro mexican silver is some of the best in the world. the mexican mint is the oldest mint in the western hemisphere. their shit cannot be counterfeited because they are art pieces. I have all my receipts though

>>25857295
ok, interesting. thanks

>>25857223
VTWAX, would that be a decent global index to go i to?

>>25857346
huh, ok
and i'm not much of a conspiracy nut, but the cartels are so entrenched in Mexico..
my main concern would be that they have lead cores.. or something .. lol

>>25857265
I don't even know what kind of bonds you have. Risk ratings mean jack shit, what matters is what you have. I'm not a bond investor so I only know the very basics. If you decide to hold you are betting on the Fed printing more money and buying bonds, pumping up the price. If you decide to sell then you expect interest rates to rise. In any case, don't hold onto your bonds for a long time -- inflation is higher than the returns you can get.
>>25857289
Well whatever you decide to do, remember to do proper DD on juniors if you want to reduce the risks brought about by ignorance. Read the links in the miner pastebin in the OP to learn about investing in miners, you'll sleep your nights better when you understand your investment.

>>25857340
>Various mining insiders on ceo.ca
most posters at ceo are not insiders at all lmfao. I'm a poster there for example.

>>25857394
>pastebin
is there a mirror?
pastebin seems to be having issues
and thanks!

>>25857265
Vanguard? Unironically I would call up your brokerage and ask them for some suggestions for equity precious metals funds. *Hopefully* they get good leverage to inflation in the event it happens. Maybe put 10-20% of your portfolio in there, put some money in physical like I said, and leave the rest alone. If your broker is Vanguard they'll probably say under no circumstance should anyone own gold/silver.

I broke down my Mom's IRA like this (set up prior to QE forever):
40% SPHQ (SP500 High Quality ETF): Companies have higher returns on capital so less exposed to a credit squeeze. Lots of shit in SP500 IMO
20% VIGI (Vanguard International Dividend growth)
25% US Real Estate ETF
15% International Real Estate ETF

I tried to get her approval to rotate into some miners back in Sept. I would probably have paired down US Real Estate to get 10% Gold equities

>>25857352
VTWAX is a decent "set and forget" for all of your stock holdings. I just think most of the European and Japanese comapnies are shit. I prefer VIGI because it's purely international and has good companies in it. If your going for retirement, the income will be good so you don't have to potentially liquidate in a crash.

But above all, have enough gold/silver on hand to survive a hyperinflation.

>>25857498
Works good for me but I'll post the links here if you can't get it to work I guess.


This pastebin includes links to different sources that include important information for those interested in investing in and learning about mining companies.

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Mining company basics for newbies:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/05/how-to-invest-in-mining-stocks.aspx
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/12/beginners-guide-mining-stocks.asp
https://undervaluedequity.com/mineral-exploration-companies-greenfield-exploration-vs-brownfield-exploration/


Information regarding mineral resource/reserve estimates & accuracy of exploration:
https://newpacificmetals.com/mining-101/mineral-estimates-reserves-vs-resources
https://undervaluedequity.com/mine-life-cycle-how-accurate-are-the-resources-reported-in-each-project-phase/


Information regarding drilling results & ore grades and how to interpret them:
https://www.amscot.com.au/Download/Download?file=Interpretation_of_Resource_Company_Announcements_-_Overview.pdf
https://undervaluedequity.com/drilling-results-how-can-you-determine-if-a-mining-companys-drill-results-are-of-low-medium-or-high-grade/
https://www.mining.com/web/making-the-grade-understanding-exploration-results/


Information regarding mining company/asset valuation:
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/valuation/mining-asset-valuation-techniques/
https://undervaluedequity.com/mineral-deposit-value-how-to-calculate-the-potential-value-of-a-mining-project/
https://undervaluedequity.com/metal-equivalent-calculation-how-to-calculate-the-mineral-equivalents-in-polymetallic-deposits/
BONUS (PAN MAN's choice): Ore deposits 101:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqE82UIVVU


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I hope this helps anons far and wide. Feel free to add your own links and improve the pastebin. Happy researching!
-That one Finnish anon

>>25857452

>I'm a poster there for example.

Yes, and you know about it because of /pmg/. These are people who have been there for years.

>>25857548
thanks my dude

>>25857556
That doesn't make then insiders. That makes them longer term members of a bullboard. Besides there are many new members too. Insiders have access to non-public information and are subject to special regulations.

Are Morgan's/peace dollars worth it if there are cull? And can someone explain the difference between troy oz and regular oz?

>>25848881
>1/2oz BU American Gold Eagle for $1,011
>$10 AU gold eagle for $1,107
Which is the better buy here?

After a few weeks lurking here, gathering opinions and researching mining stocks I narrowed my choices down to these companies:

Producers (Major)

Pan American Silver

Producers (Medium Cap)

Argonaut Gold

First Majestic Silver Corp.

America's Gold and Silver.


Producers (Small cap)

Impact Silver


Late Stage

Aftermath Silver

Silver One


Explorers

Vangold (When unhalted)

Dolly Varden

Genesis Metals

Blue Lagoon

Nicola Mining


I already have a sizable amount of PMs on hand, so my miner position would be around 10% of my choices.

I will probably pick two explorers and buy a couple thousand shares, and hedge that risk against larger/mid-size producers.

Note: Literal retard at stock trading, first time actually investing in stocks, so any advice would be appreciated. All my investment exposure is real estate, very different animal.

>>25857627
If it's cull it means the numismatic value is gone and also some of the silver weight is gone. Troy ounce is 31.1 grams a regular ounce is 28 grams.

>>25857627
Morgans and Peace dollars have some collector value because they are so old so they tend to come with a much higher premium. I don't think it is worth it besides having a few to play with in your hands. Certainly look out for cheap ones, but APMEX is like, $10 over spot per coin or something absurd like that. Even for culls.

>>25857621

An insider is someone with special knowledge about an industry. You didn't get to know about ceo.ca 3 or 4 years ago, and you haven't continued to post on the site, without getting a good feeling about the culture of investing in mining stocks. I could have also mentioned that these people are "reputable" and "top contributors" with many followers.

does crypto have any effect on pm?

>>25857751
I got lucky. I bought 40x Morgans/Peace dollars from APMEX back in 2009 and a few of them were in pretty decent condition. Some of the others are worn down beyond recognition.
I do like them a lot. Getting them for $14 each instead of $25 is much netter deal.

>>25857621
I think he may mean that these people work in, are knowledgeable about, have years of investing experience in, and/or have connections in the mining industry.

>>25857387
you really got your head up your ass. libertads sell for a higher premium because they are so sought after. Besides, its China making fakes of US and British coins

>>25857815
It is keeping PM prices low as people look for different ways to protect their wealth.

>>25857878
oh that's good

>>25857878
Do you think PM is low now, like is it a good time to buy?

>>25857627
If you're buying Cull Silver dollars either buy them based on Silver weight or buy them from a shop where you can pick out better coins from them.

>>25857847
k bro
but why are you offering to sell here >>25857238 ?

Honestly, guys, is 4chan going to be taken offline just like all these other websites?

>>25857749
>Literal retard at stock trading, first time actually investing in stocks, so any advice would be appreciated.
Start off slow with smaller investments to get a feel for how this thing works first and foremost. Also how well are you researching these companies? Do you know how to separate good results from bad ones for example?
>>25857810
>An insider is someone with special knowledge about an industry.
Your definition is incorrect. An insider is a person with non-public information and connections to a company. You can see insider buying & selling at ceo.ca using the SEDI insider filings, gives retail investors good information when expecting a NR for example.

From Investopedia (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/insider.asp):
>Insider is a term describing a director or senior officer of a publicly traded company, as well as any person or entity, that beneficially owns more than 10% of a company's voting shares. For purposes of insider trading, the definition is expanded to include anyone who trades a company's shares based on material nonpublic knowledge. Insiders have to comply with strict disclosure requirements with regard to the sale or purchase of the shares of their company.

>You didn't get to know about ceo.ca 3 or 4 years ago, and you haven't continued to post on the site, without getting a good feeling about the culture of investing in mining stocks. I could have also mentioned that these people are "reputable" and "top contributors" with many followers.
This is irrelevant. Being a long-term member, a "top contributor" or "reputable" doesn't make a bullboard member an insider. They might be experienced and seasoned investors worth listening to yes but they're not necessarily insiders -- they usually aren't. I judge companies based on my own judgment and I'm not swayed by what others say. I do my own DD, make my own calculations and value estimates and take risks I'm comfortable taking. Discussion is of course worth considering always.

>>25857829
They really do look/feel cool as hell. I've got a couple I got at near spot and I'm glad I did. A perfect stack is low in numismatic value/premiums - fuck perfection tho. Get some libertiddies and some batbois and some kino coins every now and then.

>>25857998
We need to decide on a bunker regardless

>>25857932
Build a position, for sure. I'm trying to get as much of this shit as I can. Not buying as much at 25+ dollars of course as there are better opportunities in miners for cheaper prices.

>>25858011

You are choosing only that definition of the word "insider" which suits you. One definition of the word is "a person belonging to a limited circle of persons who understand the actual facts in a situation, or share private knowledge." ceo.ca is not a popular forum like Stocktwits. It isn't simply "a bulletin board." It has got a lot more popular now, and will continue to do so. But almost nobody knew about it several years ago. Somebody who has been there for years, is reputable, a top contributor, with many followers, deserves to be called "a mining insider" for the purpose of the point which I was making, which is the validity or lack thereof of Rick Rule's judgements when it comes to junior mining stocks.

Doubled down on $DV and bought the daily .72 low. increased my position by 110% there. I figured based on charting over the past few months that it won't drop much more, if at all.

Started a position on $NFG at open, up a few % points already.

Gunna buy like 50 more ounces of AG if it gets to $23.0 somehow in the next month.

>>25858184
What do you mean “in miners”? New to this.

>>25857998
It could happen. They will want to shut down pol most of all. They like retards sitting and staring at an addictive website that is covered in porn and schizo tier nonsensical ideas.
What is everyone's gameplan if the internet goes down or something major happens? Do you go to work that day? bury your metals?

Sup anons, I recently heard about the possibe silver shortage in the future. This made me interested in investing a considerable part of my networth in the metal.

Do you anons feel silver will rise higher? I know I'm late but you're probably more familiar with the matter

>>25858297
Hasn't pol been shut down a few times before? I remember it went offline for a while around the same time that High Level Insider individual was posting a few years ago.

>>25858314
Silver going to less than 500 USD is FUD

>>25858011
>Start off slow with smaller investments to get a feel for how this thing works first and foremost
Definitely, I don't plan on dumping thousands of dollars all at once, but I'm in for the long haul.

>Also how well are you researching these companies
Superficially, I admit - most of these were picked from lists here and compared to other lists of suggested stocks as a second opinion. But I wanted to bring down the number of companies to dive deeper into since there are so many and I can't simply throw money at all of them.

> Do you know how to separate good results from bad ones
Only as much as a few hours of research and study allow, which really isn't much.

>>25858268
Like, not the Michael Jackson way.

He's presumably going to find *miners* that have undervalued marketcaps relative to their in-ground deposits like $BHS (lots of debt tho, shit management) and others that fit the bill.

It's tougher to find them now then say last March, but there are still plenty of opportunities to be had, just do the DD

>>25857752
>$10 over spot
yeah, no. The ones I'm looking at are about $.60 over spot, pre 1921, too. Then again, they are probably beat to all hell
>>25857942
>silver weight
so, if each coin is about .7734 troy, does that mean it will only have about 91% silver??

>>25858234
>You are choosing only that definition of the word "insider" which suits you
I'm literally using the definition used by investors. The definition used by other ceo members, the definition used by Investopedia. It's the insider filings in the SEDI's that people refer to when talking about insider buying and selling, ask anybody at ceo if you doubt me (since you seem to place more weight on ceo posters for some reason). Your definition is vague and unclear: somebody with "special knowledge about an industry". What the hell kind of knowledge is "special"?! Just be honest with yourself and say that you place more trust in seasoned investors.

Here have another Investopedia article about insider trading, don't just take my word for these things: https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/what-exactly-is-insider-trading/
"An insider is a person who possesses either access to valuable non-public information about a corporation or ownership of stock equaling more than 10% of a firm's equity. This makes a company's directors and high-level executives insiders."

>It isn't simply "a bulletin board."
Ceo quite literally is a bullboard/dashboard. Stop adding mysticism to the site.

>Somebody who has been there for years, is reputable, a top contributor, with many followers, deserves to be called "a mining insider" for the purpose of the point which I was making, which is the validity or lack thereof of Rick Rule's judgements when it comes to junior mining stocks.
Keep your shit opinion to yourself. They deserve to be called long-term members, not wrongly to be called insiders. Anybody can question RR's validity, not only mythical oldfags.

>>25858444
>The ones I'm looking at are about $.60 over spot
Silver dollars aren’t a full ounce.
https://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html
According to coinflation their market value is $19.08 so you’re paying about $6 over spot

>>25858396
Slow & steady wins the race anon. You have a good attitude here, unlike some that decide to shut off their brain and go all in. If you want to learn about investing in juniors, look at the miner pastebin in the OP. There's a lot to learn about the industry (as well as investing in stocks in general) but take it one step at a time, and always ask yourself: what do I not know? What do I need to learn?

>>25858444
>they are probably beat to all hell
not if they are graded high.
dealers only have their reputation to go by.
i'd find a local coin shop for better deals on numismatic coins

>91% silver??
Morgans and Peace dollars are 90%silver and 10% copper

>>25858268
If PMs go up, there are mining companies that are sitting on millions of ounces of silver among other minerals worth money. If the price goes up, eventually they are pulling straight profit out of the ground and this is going to increase the shares in value.

>>25858376
SHOW HIM YOUR STACK, MLORD! HE'LL BELIEVE, THEN!

>>25858444
>so, if each coin is about .7734 troy, does that mean it will only have about 91% silver??
What I mean is cull dollars should be bought by Silver weight since culls have usually lost a lot of weight from being worn down so much. Weigh the coins in troy ounces, multiply by 0.9 and then multiply by the spot price of Silver. That's the price you should pay for Cull Silver Dollars, paying $1-2 per oz over this price is fine. Just avoid buying worn or unknown condition Dollars by anything other than total remaining silver weight.
Picking out better coins from culls and buying those at a set premium over face value is also a perfectly good stategy.

>>25858372
8pol was shut down.

Should I buy physical online or from pawn shops?

>>25858488

Again, the trouble here is that you are limiting the word "insider" to one definition, and then attacking me as if that was the one which I was using. The context had nothing to do with specialized access to a company, it was about people's opinions of a man; so by definition my use of the word "insider" had nothing to do with your interpretation of it. "Belonging to a limited circle of persons sharing private knowledge" is by definition belonging to an extremely small and selective community, which only a few people knew about until recently. "Insider" can be a loose word, not simply a narrow term of art to do with insider filings on SEDI reports, or insider trading. I think I have said everything which I have to say on this matter, so thank you for the discussion and let us leave it here.

>>25858591
Thanks. I guess I feel like I'm late to the party and want to get in as soon as possible. Plus I have this sinking feeling we're entering a very volatile period (that's why I converted much of my savings to PMs), but there's opportunity to make money in those times as well.
Most of my net worth is in real estate and I'm confident that bubble will burst soon. Thankfully all my properties but one were purchased at the bottom, so if it does crash, it won't be the end of the world.

>>25858946
Online has far better price than pawn shops. If you can find a dedicated Coin Store in your area you might get a better deal than online.

>>25859019
Alright anon, keep using your umbrella term I'm not stopping you. I'll keep on sticking to the correct definitions and facts accepted by investors across the globe.
>>25859033
Good luck, invest responsibly.

>>25859019
How much higher do you think the 10 year yield can go before either a) everything falls apart, or b) Powell announces a major increase in QE?

>>25858585
>>25858633
>>25858810
Thanks all!

Anyone here has 1kg of gold?

>>25859156

My theory going back to May and June was always that danger would arise once the 10-year yield went past 1%. I have seen maneco64 say the same thing, and Danielle DiMartino Booth has also said that the yield going past 1% would be the signal for yield-curve control. There is a recent article on ZH which goes into this question, and makes a lot of the same points which I was making in May (e. g. "it took a rise in 10y bond yields above 3% to ‘break’ the bull run... Now, with the US tech sector on a forward PE close to 30x, it will clearly take a lot less to break the equity market and trigger the bursting of this bubble.") Most people seem to agree that 1.5% would be completely untenable, and 2% or more catastrophic. e. g. Albert Edwards says: "The equity market will collapse long before we reach 1.5%."

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/what-yield-10y-will-burst-stock-bubble-here-answer

>>25858946
Find a LCS first before considering pawn shops. Most pawn places are run by boomers that grossly overestimate value on silver.

>>25859375
Kinda true but there are some real gems as far as pawn stores are considered in the midwest

>>25859348
Yes, thank you, I read that article earlier today and remembered that I wanted to read your thoughts on the topic. It seems like, for every small increase in the 10y yield, we get a corresponding crazier news cycle. A few months ago, when it was 1%, the news was strange and depressing. Now that it's over 1%, we have end-of-days, civil war, technocracy, dystopian nightmare news stories being thrown at us. It seems there is an association between the worsening stability of the foundation of our financial markets, evidenced mainly by the 10y yield, and the outlandishness of stories and information shoveled at us. It's like the bankers and "ruling class" are throwing everything they possibly can to distract us away from their culpability in creating this mess.

>>25859070
Thank you, appreciate the advice.

>>25859339
I'm at 800g or so, but if the price keeps dropping I might throw some more money at a few Maples that might cross that threshold.

>>25859339
Can I get better deals buying by the kilo?

2 of us have a PMG backup created through matrix. Link:
https://matrix.to/#/!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Recommend using element as a client. End to end encryption is on. It's like Telegram, but is a good idea to have in case of emergency right now. No phone number or email is required to sign up, but you need to remember your password and username (use a password manager)

Did you guys see Winkelvoss KEK Schiff? It was amazing. PM stackers are such fags. How do they live with themselves?

>>25859913
WINKELVOSS KEKS SCHIFF!

>>25859913
>going on twitter
glowie

>>25859913
>>25859941

WINKELVOSS C U C K S SCHIFF

>>25859849
If you can afford to buy a kilogram of gold at once I don’t think you even need to worry about premiums

>>25859728

The oligarchs purposely make our financial system extremely complicated. How can you really explain to the average person, "The coronavirus is a pretext for the collapse; the markets were going to crash in 2020 anyway, because of the ten-year yield going up." Most people don't even know what a ten-year yield is, or even what a bond is. Even Michael Saylor didn't know the most basic information about how yields work, and he's a billionaire self-professed financial guru. The public state of ignorance about our financial system makes it so easy for people to be manipulated with narratives. I imagine trying to explain it to the average person:

"Well, you see, all our governments are severely in debt, and we can't pay for all our enormous socialist programmes anyway, so we borrow for them by selling bonds; but the trouble is that the yields on those bonds would normally be too high to pay, so we artificially suppress them with something called Q. E., which is essentially money-printing to buy bonds; and that causes asset-bubbles, and enriches the top 1% at the expense of the middle class; and when we don't do enough Q. E., the yield starts to go up and crash the market, because the rate of risk-free return goes up, and the market is in such an enormous bubble; but when you re-inflate the bubble it means you need even more Q. E., and it’s a vicious circle and a ponzi scheme meant to enslave us, and ........."--Makes you sound like an utter lunatic.

>>25859913
>>25859941
>>25859971
did somebody say c u c k?

>>25859980
Is my search wrong or are they like $60k?

New bred wen

>>25860151
fuck you

>>25856602
>the National Park of American Samoa Quarter
Naw dude, these dumb things

https://bullionexchanges.com/1-oz-silver-envela-covid-round

>>25860012
Imagine putting that graphic together and not figuring that out. Imagine larping as a tech expert and not one of the 100 guys that failed up in the tech bubble and still using that blurry ass logo on promo material in 2020

>>25860151
I got you
>>25859853
Thanks for that. Let me check this, and see if we put this in the bread.

>>25860151
bump limit still a few posts away and we have to be on page 7 at least newfren

>>25860162
I’m not posting my cool shit right at the end of a thread, fuck you

>>25860191
Draw him giving birth

>>25860012
Very true. People are starting to wake up to the presence of inflation now, and that can be a good starting point to discuss these things. Also, almost everyone is harboring some degree of skepticism about the pandemic, so there are opportunities to have these conversations if someone is willing to listen. The silence on this issue from the media, and the screaming about literally everything else, is deafening.

>>25860306

Yes, one encouraging fact is that everybody in the various comments sections which I read, appears to be aware of the inflation now. The money-printer meme (which I think may even have originated on /biz/?) is ubiquitous. That indicates me that we are well along way towards the so-called "crack-up boom."

>>25860306

Yes, one encouraging fact is that everybody in the various comments sections which I read, appears to be aware of the inflation now. The money-printer meme (which I think may even have originated on /biz/?) is ubiquitous. That indicates to me that we are well along way towards Mises's so-called "crack-up boom."

>>25860201

Someone says: "Deleted by michael_saylor. No repercussions, no admission of misunderstanding, a mistake or wrongdoing." Classic sign of a cult leader.

>>25860493
You severely underestimate the stupidity of the general populace
If you took the average person off the street and asked them to basically explain inflation it would be something along the lines of “stuff get more expensive and that’s bad, but idk why”

>>25860607
This was intended for >>25860547
no idea what other one I clicked on

>>25860607
>>25860547

>If you took the average person off the street and asked them to basically explain inflation it would be something along the lines of “stuff get more expensive and that’s bad, but idk why”

I think that that is actually the first stage of the crack-up boom as Mises defines it. People at first feel that their purchasing power is declining, but they don't realise why that is yet the case. When they at last come to understand that it is not the price of goods going up, but the value of their currency going down, they start to dump their currency as feverishly and quickly as they can.

>>25859853
What's the room name? Sorry, I'm retarded and don't know how to get the link to work

>>25860688

but they don't realise why that is yet the case

don't realise yet why that is the case*

See here:

"At first, popular opinion fails to link rising prices to an earlier increase in the quantity of money. It is thought to be a temporary phenomenon, the result of other factors such as economic recovery and supply bottlenecks. As price rises gather pace governments blame speculation and profiteering, and they introduce price controls which inevitably leads to shortages of many basic goods.

Finally we enter Von Mises’s second phase when the population realises that money is losing purchasing power, and they increasingly dump it for goods as rapidly as possible. This is the flight out of money and into goods, the katastrophenhausse, or crack-up boom. Once the currency enters this phase the currency is doomed."

>>25860769
We have this for just in case the chans are cleansed from the earth by big tech.

>>25860195
oh. lol
they may eventually bring a premium.
probably not like rare Morgans though
people do like to collect novelty items

>>25860688
I’m not too well read on the process then it seems. My only prior understanding of the term was that it was a credit collapse from inflation and credit over extensions, similar to what we are seeing in the US today, but I wasn’t aware of Mises writing about the people’s reaction and part in it. I’ll have to read up on that, arigathanks

>>25860822
Yeah, as in, I've heard about Matrix but this is my first time using it
Using the link in >>25859853 just gives me a blank screen, not sure if it's my browser being too old or something so I need the actual room name to search and join on Element

>>25860769
!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org
if you open element and create an account, you can then join this room. If you open the link I posted before it should be easier. Just click on the element option

>>25860825
Not rare at all, but novelty to the max. Redditors were eating them up by the tube back when they were first released, I remember thinking the premiums for them were retarded

>>25860777
CHECKED
>Inflation starts with the housewife saying, "I do not need a new frying pan, but it will be more expensive next year so I will buy one now." And ends with her saying "I do not need a new kitchen table. I will not need a new kitchen table in one year. But I would rather have another kitchen table than this paper"

>>25860865
Yeah its !txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org

Try this one https://matrix.to/#/!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

you need to have javascript enabled

>>25859853
So should /pmg/ bros download this and make accounts in advance just in case or what's the game plan?

>>25860977
You can just set up an account on the webapp, but the desktop is nicer

>>25860977
Get in now when things are up, and have this on the sideline while the main board is up. Then once the chans are gone for good, then we can relocate to this.

>>25860926
Incredibly based

>>25860850

I just realised that what I quoted is actually an innovation by Alasdair Macleod, and not in Mises. The first phase of the crack-up boom is, as you say, the expansion of credit. Macleod adds an extra or as he calls it "interim phase" to that first phrase, which is when people fail to attribute the inflation to an increase in the money supply. In Mises' second phase, they realise what is going on and dump it. Full quotation:

"Von Mises described the effect on prices from monetary inflation as undergoing two distinct phases, between which I insert an extra interim phase:

The beginning of the inflow of additional money makes the prices of some commodities and services rise; other prices rise later. Generally, people do not expect most prices to rise and even think they might fall. This describes the situation today with economists more worried about deflation and people conserving cash and deposits. However, there is already high inflation in some assets excluded from inflation statistics, but driven by the expansion of money and bank credit nonetheless.

This is followed by an interim period when price rises become more widespread and people begin to shift their preferences from holding money towards buying goods whose prices they no longer expect to fall. Popular opinion fails to link rising prices to an earlier increase in the quantity of money. It is thought to be a temporary phenomenon, the result of other factors such as economic recovery and supply bottlenecks. As price rises gather pace governments blame speculation and profiteering, and they introduce price controls which inevitably leads to shortages of many basic goods.

Finally we enter Von Mises’s second phase when the population realises that money is losing purchasing power, and they increasingly dump it for goods as rapidly as possible. This is the flight out of money and into goods, the katastrophenhausse, or crack-up boom. Once the currency enters this phase the currency is doomed."

>>25859853
perfect added to my little list for just incase

>>25861079
This will be in the bread but hidden. Do not tell the new fags, and let them do their DD. Old PMG fans will know the diffrence.

>>25860867
Yep it was my browser, had to try it on another computer
If anyone else is planning to use Element and also has a blank screen on matrix.to the corresponding link is https://app.element.io/#/room/!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org

>>25859853
done

>>25861098
>muh secret club
man I feel so nostalgic now lmao, it's like the old times

>>25861098
Time to start telling newfags to go all in on rhenium

>>25861098
>>25861079
>>25859853
Should we have other places to congregate in case this one doesn't work out in the end? Maybe make a small list of possibilities?

>>25861275
Possibly. Lets figure it out in the next bread. Make sure to let people search the bread for this way of communication.

>>25861098
baker can you change it to https://app.element.io/#/room/!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org
as >>25861100 pointed out. It will cause less friction

>>25861316
I have it ready already. Do not worry anon. I got you.

Hopefully you anons get in the matrix so we can help you this bread.

heres some news unless anyone else posted it. Blue lagoons getting ready to test more of dome mountain. https://www.juniorminingnetwork.com/junior-miner-news/press-releases/2710-cse/bllg/90858-blue-lagoon-kicks-off-20-000-meter-drill-program-on-its-dome-mountain-gold-project.html

>>25861645
no way to make anonymous accounts?

>>25861657
Will we see some actual results or will Blue lagoon become a dud? Find out next week on BUILD THAT MINE!
>>25861670
No, but you can change your username before heading in. It is all frens here.

>>25861670
Name yourself anon, problem solved

>>25861670
They have names for the sign ins. You don't have to provide email though. It has e2e encryption and there isn't really a way to do that without identities

>>25861709
yea i ll be mad if they become poo lagoon like metal mountain before them, but they are at least exploring. Metal mountain ran that mine for a few years than basically went dorment.

Is anyone worried Normies will try to flood to gold or silver?

>>>/pol/302125832
Pol wants to get PMG pill.

>>25861756
>worried
That's the goal?

>>25861756
That's just part of the market cycle, I'd offload my miners at that time

>>25861275

I imagine that if 4chan goes down, there should be a successor to it, whether on the surface web or the dark web. Should be possible to recongregate there and make another /pmg/. There is also ceo.ca. All somebody would have to do is announce in e. g. the Dolly Varden room that they are from /pmg/. Although that would compromise anonymity.

>>25861756

The financial system will collapse, and gold will go to $15,000 an ounce, long before even a few % of the world population owns any precious metals. I don't enjoy that thought, but that's how it will be. Most people already can't afford an ounce of gold, and owning even 60 ounces of silver puts you in the top 1% of silver-owners.

>>25861823
> Most people already can't afford an ounce of gold, and owning even 60 ounces of silver puts you in the top 1% of silver-owners.
God that's depressing

>>25861823
Well at that point anonymity wouldn't matter as much as community <3

>>25861866

That's why they call this the great wealth-transfer in history. The vast majority of mankind are going to lose virtually everything they have. If you own bonds, cash, or crypto, you will lose everything; if you own most mainstream stocks, you will lose somewhere between half and almost everything; if you own a house, you will lose at least half your purchasing power. It's a game of musical chairs, where there are very few chairs to sit down upon when the music stops playing.

>>25859156
>>25859348
The consensus I've seen among analysts is that a 1% yield is an economic catastrophe. I don't know anything about the subject though

My retarded ass managed to join the matrix, you have no excuse

New bread

>>25862104
>>25862104
>>25862104

>>25859853
>https://matrix.to/#/!txbJvNyTglrmIlGGxN:matrix.org?via=matrix.org
just joined if 4channel goes down, we are in a world of hurt

>>25856617
Hey pan man, I have a few k in new placer dome gold corp, a few k in aisia broadband and the majority of my junior portfolio in genesis metals. Should I dump any of these guys in your opinion? Yeah I have majors too, mostly Kirkland lake. To me it seems ngld.v was a good buy, even at .35 but now even more so at .26-.28. Good bit of land and good looking projects im thinking, and that's only 5 cents off their record low. Aabb was a no brainer at a cent, but now it's up to 2 and change but ill probably still hodl. Genesis is Sprott involved like another anon said and also at neat record lows, seems like another no brainer. Also canadian, but ontario sadly so looks like I'm going to get fucked pretty soon.

>>25861789
Fuck them. Don't say anything. For the love of God I've had so many things I like get ruined. Cna we not ruin this one guys? Can we not have any faggot white knights go in there and preach precious metals to them? They'll come here when they're ready. Please guys don't be faggots.

>>25861789
good more people buying / stacking is a very good thing. I noticed another two major mining claims on minland got bought out last night too btw. People seem to want land with wealth on it.

>>25862137
your choices all seem sound as far as i can tell mate, New Placer Dome was doing good a few days ago when I looked at them specifically. I ll reply properly in next thread.

>>25862201
I will not leak them to this. Do not worry.
>>25862236
We will help them there pan man. I want to make sure we can at least give them some encouragement.

>>25856340
based