/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25814562
How can I profit off of this?

>>25814562
Way ahead of you bud, been losing money trading cryptos as a NEET for years now.

I'll sell chicken eggs and bullets for XMR.

>>25814562

Why can’t some autists come up with a decentralized way to host web apps that is scalable etc? We can have decentralized FB/Twitter all that bullshit.

>>25814562
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>>25814727
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>>25814864

Is gab not a public company? I was trying to invest but all I found was some startup equity thing that gab did in 2017.

>>25814864
There is plenty of protocols working on that. It's just until now there wasn't major reasons for adoption. Decentralized computing/web hosting is probably going to be hot for the next few years.

>>25814562
Good luck with your path friend. I have mine. I choose to hyperengage. Join politics. Hire lobbyists. Play the game and win. Why? The cost of losing or running is too high.

>be tribe in africa
>feeling pretty fucking safe just fucked up rival tribe
>different color little aliens show up with alien tech and when you try to fight you just die
Yea enjoy being on your own island like the 4th industrial revolution wont sweep you.

>>25814864
OChain does this! They have been in communication with Parler to ensure fully decentralised social media platforms

>>25814562
or maybe your lying, schizophrenic, race-baiting, insurrection-fomenting traitor of a president got what he deserved for inciting violence in violation of the terms of use of a social media platform. Or would you prefer that your god-emperor be above the laws and rules that govern you and your fellow man?

>>25815080
Op hasnt even mentioned trump.

>>25815192
doesnt mean the tribalist won't continue to spam shit. they are religious fanatics and they aren't going to make it.

>>25814933
What does this mean

>>25814933
>>25816083
Block One funded from EOS sale made Voice. Dont ignore Block One. They have a lot of money.
https://www.voice.com/learn-more/

>>25814562
fuck off to /pol shizo incel. I'm here to make money and not to 'stop contributing to the economy altogether'.

>>25814562
Don't expect anyone here to follow this advice they're all slaves to (((capitalism))) there may be some Chad's in /pmg/ but the rest are ngmi.

>>25816698
is shoeonhead a communist now wtf?

>>25815413
I don't think tribalism means what you think it means

>>25814562
This pic is sadly quite true. I just wanna get out of the pool and throw a couple toasters in at this point. And by that I mean I want all normies to be severely priced out of crypto for good.

>>25816758
she's a closet lesbian leaf for sure

>>25816083
It means, if you really believe a decentralized data future is in the cards, you should be researching some of these protocols.
Some of these are complete shit though. iExec is good, but it is mainly a off chain decentralized computing service for crypto. Not so much web hosting.
>>25816233
Ehh... Isn't EOS a vaporware scam and the founder just left?

>>25817115
she has just gotten more and more retarded as time went on, she's going on literal maoists's channels and doing interviews
I hope she died desu

>>25815080
>>25815413
found the bonkers zealots

>>25814562
>completely controlled and compromised

"by people I don't like"

You're a faggot. Walk into the ocean please.

>>25814562
>Stop using the internet
I'd rather just lay down and die

>>25815192
No, he did... He just didn't use the word Trump. If you can't tell what he's trying to say, you're either willfully ignorant or you're an actual, literal retard.

>>25817199
REEEE NORMIES. I'll explain this just once. Block One owns 1% of bitcoin, which just mooned, unless they already cashed it. This has nothing to do with EOS or Dan Larimer. And everything to do with Block One and Voice

>>25815413
>we must stop tribalism
>with tribalism
Fucking inbred retard.

>>25815080
Forget about trump for ten seconds and think, you dumbass. A privately owned, preter-national mega corporation just removed a democraticly elected official from the public discourse. They have now placed themselves above the local laws of all nations as the moderators of the public narrative, globally. If you can't see how this is exactly how a banana republic functions, you're fucking stupid. If you can't see how a global banana republic of big tech is a bad thing, you're fucking hopeless. Or do you honestly think twitter and facebooks authority should supercede the UN, just because they own a bunch of infrastructure?

>>25814562
This reminds me of the screaming scene in Body Snatchers.

>>25817757
>Implying leftists care about anything besides "yay my team won"

>>25817757
>Forget about trump for ten seconds

Proceeds to whine about how the guy who helped foment a violent attempted takeover using social media was deplatformed from the aforementioned social media for incitement to violence.

>>25814562

thanks OP i too am a psychopath and i'm going to go live in the woods because trump got banned from twitter. take meds

>>25817757
Twitter and facebook are private companies and your profile exists at their whim. we don't live in a communist society where the government gets to tell corporations who they are required to and not to allow to use their service.

>>25817852
You are really fucking dumb.

Why the fuck is this thread on /biz?

>>25815080
No one mentioned Trump... this guys got fucking rabies dude

Okay bro we both start for 3 years starting in 3...2...1...

>>25817966

poltards showed up here at the top to get dumped on as usual

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>>25817974 see above^^^ then eat a bullet.

>>25817937
>Facebook and Twitter are private companies
At this point they can be seen as utilities based on how vital for communication they have become. And also...why do we even deal with having a government if it can’t do at least some regulating to break up the elite 4 companies that decide what we can and cannot talk about?

>>25818273
>that decide what we can and cannot talk about?
Damn, not allowed to actively plot violent insurrection openly inside an echochamber that magnifies the most extreme ideas and rejects any who would attempt to instill temperance, logicality or rationality.

They're not utilities. The phone in your pocket is a utility. the ISP that was dumb enough to give you service is a utility. Zogbook and twatter are platforms that utilize those communicative modalities.
I'm not having this conversation.
You're retarded, this conversation is retarded and Biz is not the place for it. take this shit elsewhere.

>>25814562
nah man, just stop paying taxes and move your money into non-inflating assets (including crypto). that's where they make most of their money, taxes and inflation. also pirate whenever possible and collect gibs whenever you can. look into "tax resistance", there is a whole movement already in place of people who refuse to pay IRS taxes.

>>25814562
Yup, you’re right. But even then, you can’t actually live off grid. They own all of the land too! Good luck getting allodial title! There is a way out though. There is ALWAYS a way out! If you try to leave the system completely then you will end up failing by the fact that eventually they will come for the land that you are using. So, to stop this from occurring you must use the system ONLY to facilitate your accumulation of knowledge on how to escape it. Think of it like a rule book for a game! You must discover as many of the rules as you can and you can only do this by using the tools of the system to obtain the required knowledge. You pass on your incomplete copy of the rules to your progeny, whom then must go on and continue your quest to compete the rule book. Do this enough generations in a row, and you will encounter the elite. If you do not have the knowledge to survive this encounter then you will fall.

>>25814968
if you get into politics please make your first issue to go back to paper ballots counted at the point of collection. transparent ballot boxes and no break in the chain of custody. the elites don't care whether dems or repubs win bc they're both controlled, but they ALWAYS steal votes from third parties and on important referendums.

>>25817937
You operate on false premise layered upon false premise. If the company is private but acts in the best interest of the establishment, then it’s not ACTUALLY private, now is it?

If you claim to be a private independent individual but act only in the interest of another individual, then one could say that you are owned by the other individual.

It’s very obvious what is going on and Trump has nothing to do with it. You’re so wrapped up in false ideologies that you fail to see what’s actually playing out in front of you.

>>25817906
I didn't name any names, I'm just explaining the systematic structure behind d what they just did. Seriously, forget trump and just think about what happened. Or not, since you seem so hopelessly obsessed with embracing facism to own the fascists.

>>25818482
First of all nobody was plotting violent insurrection. If there was going to be violent insurrection it would occur regardless of whatever Trump did or did not do. Second of all, violent insurrection is literally the only thing that could possibly save you! Look at how good the elites have trained their dogs!

>>25818482
agree with you on the violent insurrection part, but the rest of your post just makes you sound anti-free-speech.

i need my free speech so i can continue to tell people that hydrogenated vegetable oils give people heart attacks. that position alone gets me personally attacked more than you'd think.

>>25818905
I voted for trump twice, I was fucking outtie the moment they pulled that wackadoo shit at the capital. fuck whatever comes from it. If that's what it takes to deplatform people who sought to overthrow the temple of the legislature of the most powerful imperial government across the surface of the entire earth, in all of recorded human history than so be it. This isn't party politics anymore. they can have control, as long as that shit never ever happens again.

>>25818954
>First of all nobody was plotting violent insurrection

Nigger what...

This shit is done. go fucking lie to someone else.

>>25814562
Many people have given up and are turning to van life. They are modern nomads. Society, according to the definition, is disappearing right in front of our eyes. This is extremely deflationary/inflationary, in other words, stagflation/hyperinflation. This is collapse. Get into real assets, hard money. According to what you say to do, crypto will not be of any use. Buy boomer rocks

>>25818980
I'm profree speech until that speech results in whatever the fuck you call that shit the other day. that is absolutely too fucking far.

>>25818954
no, educating people about tax resistance is a much better way to change the government. look up "tax resistance". if even a fraction of the population stopped paying taxes (and moved their finances to non-inflating assets) believe me you'd see changes pretty quick. the people in charge who actually know what's going on are only a small group, controlling a much larger group with lies. they don't have armies of executioners ready to kill americans who peacefully resist by simply saying no to IRS taxes because we don't want to support that system. America actually is better than China in this regard.

>>25818954
The angles and the curves.

>>25819135

>First of all nobody was plotting violent insurrection.
NO ONE WAS PLANNING AN INSURRECTION ANON.

>violent insurrection is literally the only thing that could possibly save you!
BUT ANON IF THERE WAS MAYBE A BIT OF A VIOLENT INSURRECTION IT WAS A GOOD THING AND YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL.

Go the FUCK back to pol PLEASE

>>25819049
If there was going to be violent insurrection I assure you that it was not being plotted on Twitter! Such an ego you have to believe that such a serious thing would be openly discussed on such a platform! Yet you call OTHERS stupid! Tell me, how many violent insurrections have been plotted and carried out on open platforms? And I don’t mean promoted and endorsed, I mean PLOTTED. What exactly was the insurrection plot that Trump is was cooking up? Can you please enlighten us as to this gunpowder treason and plot?

>>25819131
Yes, if 30% of the population stopped using the system then the system would fail. Too bad the system is set up specifically so that it never happens! Good luck “educating” people when people with much more power than you have a vested interest in stopping you!

>>25818983
>I voted for Trump twice
Why lie?

>>25819256
When thee fuck did I say it was planned on twitter?
Try parler, rumble, Facebook groups and anywhere the #Stopthesteal march on the capitol bullshit started.

>>25819228
>missing the point entirely
Go ask a country that has actually experienced violent insurrection about what occurred. I’m sure they will laugh at you!

>>25819299
lol I have more pro trump memes on my computer than you have files. Absolutely 1000% not a lie.

>OMG they stormed da gubmint capitol
>SOMEONE think of the POLITICIANS PLEASE!!!

>>25819326
Oh, so it was plotted in all of these HEAVILY MONITORED places? Places that the US Government has complete and total access to? How strange that they would just let such a horrible thing happen! Why did they not stop it?!

>>25818983
>control all speech so the government can cement its power structure further, surely this can't ever end badly
I don't think America is the country for you. Might I suggest England?

>>25819128
yeah, but plotting insurrection is already illegal. no need to change any laws. "extremist views" is a catch-all term that includes alternative medicine and other stuff the elites don't like. that's why they are always trying to conflate them on purpose (and send agitators to give opposing political views a bad reputation)

>>25819293
at least i can be happy about not being a part of that system any more (haven't paid income taxes in 7 years). and it's still more likely to work than violent insurrection, which is a completely retarded idea pushed by glowies.

>>25819336
Did you SEE the fucking footage?

https://youtu.be/0Cqy3XPS32k?list=WL&t=130

>>25819354
I know you're blushing. Post what you got

>>25819376
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/fastthinking/fast-thinking-how-the-capitol-riot-was-coordinated-online/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/protesters-storm-capitol-hill-building.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55592332

>>25819549
This post breaker is killing me but I'll push one every minute

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>>25819549
NOt a duplicate reply

>>25819472
Of course it’s a better idea! Violent insurrection could never work but what occurred on the 6th was NOT violent insurrection. How hilarious that Americans call an event where two people died a violent insurrection! An insurrection that ended after a couple of hours at that! If this is how Americans act I don’t think they could stomach anything close to an ACTUAL violent insurrection?

>>25819549
I loved trump. I thought he was unjew

>>25819131
Tax resistance is retarded. Money printer go brrrr

>>25819529
I watched it live on stream and unedited from multiple angles! Yes, VERY violent! Can you show me the part where the MAGA brigade mercilessly gunned down everyone they saw in opposition? What about the part where they dragged out politicians, regardless of affiliation, and beheaded them? Your conception of VIOLENT INSURRECTION is false. You would shit your pants and cry if anything close to an ACTUAL violent insurrection occurred, and you would be right to! It is a very ugly business. But I digress! Keep worrying about the silly MAGA people and don’t worry about those chains you keep putting on yourself.

I suggest you drop political ideology together and start focusing on what actually matters, anon.

>>25819576
But you prove my point! I didn’t say the protest was sent coordinated I said that violent insurrection was not coordinated! You call it what they TELL you to call it and then fancy it as YOUR original idea. Both you and the MAGA people are blind but you are far more blind than they! You think any of it actually matters!

>>25819710
Ok checks out, but if you hate the jews then why do you have such a problem with Trump supporters storming the capital?
I was pretty glad to see those (((politicians))) having to crawl through the tunnels like sewer rats.

>>25819898
Because the elites train their dogs well!

>>25817937
Bell is a private company. So is Verizon. Can they shut off your phone service because they dislike what you say to your friend? No because its regulated, as tech should be.

>>25819825
I'm a middle earner in a 2900 heated sqft house with a wife two kids and white neighbors. Nothing matters. What matters to me is stability. chains, no chains... I make 126k a year before taxes. As long as that remains stable I couldn't give less of a fuck who does what. you know what's not stable? that shit... That fucks with my money. I want stability. in my markets, in my pocket and in my pantry. They have no appetite for death, that doesn't change the fact that it causes uncertainty and fucks with the relative calm I'm used to. fuck the chains, they're light and they fatten me with fillet mignon.

>>25819898
Of course, but the only thing, the ONLY thing that actually seperates us from the mongrels that inhabit the rest of this planet is that we don't do that shit. go after a target and confederate monuments? not really ok, no, but nothing is directly comparative to that bedlam and concomitant destruction. ten years ago i would've been tying the noose. maybe the kike got me, maybe I really am just too old to care but I can't be bothered anymore and I can't stand to see us acting like fucking shitskins.

>>25819927
Does facebook own infrastructure?
(though I understand your point and it's long debated) I'm not going to agree that a social media platform is statused the same as a well established common carrier with a million miles of collective copper/fiber infrastructure

>>25819964
You're going to watch your stability evaporate over time, and your chains will leave you no recourse against the tyranny. Eat your filet mignon, enjoy yourself and your lifestyle. Just try not to think about the world your kids will have to inherit due to those ever-increasing chains; it might harsh your buzz

>>25819927
regulations are dumb and just empower large corporations, learn economics

>>25819898
Also, I'm aware of the broad scope kikery they shove down our throats. DO I want to see the dualnat skinwalkers brought to heel. absolutely. we have courts and legislation to take care of that. I'm gonna be brutally honest with you (and I'm not trying to start shit) but Trump was NEVER the guy to unkike this country.

>>>/pol/

>>25819964
How can a father of two be such a retard ? This society can't guarantee you tomorrow and you hope for stability in a volatile market ?
You ameritards are truly the biggest brainlets.

>>25820095
Nope, bullshit. they said that about the last 12 administrations too. it's party specific fear porn. party B is always going to ruin the way you live if you don't immediately vote for party A. I'm not worried about socialism. I'm not worried about communism. we have a two party system specifically to hinder the (societally natural) movement to the left of spectrum.

>>25820213
This society absolutely guarantees me a tomorrow. and they go to private school so the only thing that needs to be worried about is college, which is where you're supposed to go to learn all the reasons your parents are retarded. I see no reason to believe that this country is in immediate peril. DEFINITELY not peril that requires breaking windows and trashing the seat of the legislature.

>>25820034
Hey I can respect taking the Cypher pill. No judgement
>>25820142
>Trump was never the guy to unkike this country
I know, but he was a step in the right direction. I didn't vote for Trump cuz I expected him to wave a magic wand and fix this country in 4-8yrs. I voted for the guy that would come about 2 or 3 terms after him, but unfortunately it looks like they're just gonna rig the shit anyway..

>>25819964
>>25820278

>>25814562
Haha of god hope they ban the rest of the shitty trump family

>>25820224
>we have a two party system specifically to hinder the (societally natural) movement to the left of spectrum.
You're assuming that everything is above board, no conspiracies in play, and those that do wrong are brought to heel by the system. If you do follow politics at all, you'll see that that notion is plainly false. Party A and Party B may fearmonger each other, but it seems to never cross your mind that there could be other forces at work here outside the political eye that are tightening the noose on the populace. You've lived a very comfortable life and don't want that changed, I understand. But to outright state that it hasn't happened yet and therefore it can't/won't just shows great naivety. Major societal shifts will mess with your coveted stability, but you won't even see it until its too late to stop. I sincerely hope you reconsider your stance, if for no one else but your children

>>25820333
I had insanely high hopes for him. I thought he was THEE fucking one. I voted for him because EVERYONE hated him. he genuinely scared them. imo, they got to him sometime in late 2017 early 2018.

>>25820443
How? how could my life change in the next 40 years? (in a meaningful way) like serious changes to lifestyle and accommodation. Barring devolution into civil war or some crazy shit? I'm genuinely interested to know...

>>25820443
is the entire concept of this shit to keep the slaves happy? social change required to keep the service class happy, but not at the expense of the middle class? not BIG change anyway. gotta keep the slaves relatively happy, right? so what's the angle? why risk that over anything? especially some fucking pop up resistance caused by people feeling the chains tighten?

Apart from uncontrollable hyperinflation...

>>25820482
You are very well off, but very naïve. Stability is good, as long as things are stable when you are in a position of earned or unearned power. Until you are not. As far as most of the middle class (what's left of it after small businesses have mostly shut down) and working class, anyone who is doing remotely well right now is part of the system oppressing them, or is at least unfairly leaching off it causing it to draw more resources away from themselves.

>>25820482
It isn't always about you, believe it or not. That's why I suggest you look into places that are/fell into communism and socialism. Look how their lives changed. Do a little looking into the Banana Republics and how they formed and what they did. Countries rise and fall and you're living in the transition - some would say the fall - of yours. You may get to live your life out and never face the repercussions of political inaction or blind trust in the government policing itself, but the reality your children will face - in college, in the job markets, in the world at large, (assuming you're white) as a minority to be treated with disdain (when was the last time you saw positive media about your race?) - will be society built for their suppression at best and their destruction at worst. Read up, lurk moar, or don't. Just know it isn't just you and your personal future that you're affecting

>>25820582
I'm open to changing my position, I just need something more substantial than vaguery about how things "might change" before I hop back on the "fuck the system" train.

>anyone who is doing remotely well right now is part of the system oppressing them
So fucking be it. I give my bit to charity, I'm not going to throw away the admittedly phenomenal (if slightly mundane) life I have over what could possibly happen. There will always be poor. there will always be a service class. I feel like things are as stable as expected. given the current bullshit.

>>25820705
Are you a boomer, by chance?

>>25820661
Ok, NOW you're fucking talking... yes, I agree. communism is bad. but how can we ignore the obvious inclination of the MIC and the neocon to exacerbate that plight? and what makes you think that this country will actually ever slip into communism? seriously? it's silly to think that it's going to happen in our lifetimes, and frankly, as long as my children have proper schooling, they shouldn't have to worry about maintenance of upward mobility like the poor will (and do already). I cannot reasonably foresee a reality in which this country endorses or implements communism in any meaningful way. aas for the minority thing, My children live in the second whitest state in the country and in an area with 3.5 black children in their school. I would have to lose my fucking hat to move somewhere that's not the reality.

>>25820747
I'm 31 this past december.

>>25820747
I guess I'm post boomer? I don't know desu.

Stop shitting up /biz/
Back to /pol/ faggots

>>25821121
At least it's contained to one thread...

>>25820863
Any place that is white will be forced to become nonwhite. Section 8 housing, affirmative action, etc. We are already communist. With corporate bailouts, money printer go brrrr, welfare state you have to be willinfully ignorant not to see it any other way

>>25820863
Any place that is white will be forced to become nonwhite. Section 8 housing, affirmative action, etc. We are already communist. With corporate bailouts, money printer go brrrr, welfare state you have to be willfully ignorant to see it any other way

>>25814864
>>25814933
Well, the TOR network is still around.
There probably is a next step in this, where the actual platforms don't need to be hosted on a server and can be spread across many. Wasn't freenet like that?

Inevitably, it will always be a nerd's endeavour, most people in the current generations have been dumbed down enough to now have a stance where they prefer convenience to privacy and freedom.

>>25814893
Essplain!

>>25816698
There's a difference between capitalism and consumerism.
One seems to have led to another, but it did because it coupled with political interests: dumbing down the population so it can be willing to be controled.
It's still possible to overturn this by educating people into critical thought and choosing the real and genuine instead of the mythological goals consumer society gives us (goal in life being the acquisition of good, necessity for empty social recognition, internet fame, praising buraucracy and centralisation, etc.)

>>25815080
Jesus, Trump derangement syndrome is the real pandemic.

>>25817937
It's not that simple anymore.

>>25818273
>>25818905
Theae guys have right.

>>25818482
Don't be intellectually dishonest.

>>25821628

>>25817966
The AI bots are infiltrating the entire site now...no place is safe from lefties now, thats simply how they operate. Get a Soros grant, pay for a 4chan pass to bypass captcha, pay some Chinaman a few bucks to monitor dozens of sites and start threads to stir up people and turn on the AI to keep the thread going. Don't expect it to let up anytime soon my fren.

>>25814562
No. I will continue to buy superior western made tools and appliances and refuse to give my money to China. I don't care if you don't like it Chang.

>>25817852
Correct sir. In the absence of an obvious method to ascend the dominance heirarchy, the leftist seeks a serotonin release by shaming others on behalf of others. They insert themselves into preconceived battles to declare themselves the winners.

>>25821335
lol When they can afford 450k houses in a completely developed neighborhood with a median income of 180k I'll move..