/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25804519
People study to become farmers nowadays faggot, it's not just something you up and do like you're Mike Bloomberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOW43ky7F1M

>>25804519
If you have developed energy and cost efficient automated farming techniques then yes. Otherwise you have to fight for subsidies or hire migrant workers to break even

>>25804519
Pick somewhere that will still be the climate you need in 15 years. Grow heirloom garlic. Hard to fuck up, always in demand. Sell as seed stock, not food.
>t. music garlic farmer

>>25804519
Research Permaculture. Very cool stuff and yes there's money to be made if you have got vision and drive

>>25804519
my friend wants to be a farmer so i only know what he's told me. apparently you can do it two ways- large scale industrial or small scale niche. large scale industrial is at least nominally profitable but you obviously need to scale it up. lots of lands, lots of equipment and lots of workers. the equipment is expensive and often purchased with loans so you're stuck in debt for a long time. lavender farm sounds based though. how many acres are you thinking of getting?

>>25804618
Lol my plan was actually to grow garlic actually. Please tell me it worked for you and give me any resources you know of anon please!

>>25804656
I already have two acres maybe .5- 1 at my house usable and am thinking of getting chickens but obviously I want to scale up.

>>25804676
It did. Test soil for nematodes, if you're in a cold climate, go hardneck, warm climate, go softneck. Plant in the fall, harvest in the summer, dry a few months to plant in fall again, you get better harvests. Mulch but not too much (research based on location). Look up how nitrogen/fertilizer rich the soil should be for your strain of garlic. Cut the shapes (green stalks) off when they get tall in spring, they taste like garlic flavored green onions and the bulbs underneath will get huge without having to put more energy toward the stalk. Dry in a cool (50-60 degrees) ventilated area. Sell as seed stock, but check your local laws, they are INTENSE. Commonly things like if selling as seed online, 50 dollar license per state you sell in, per year-- so pick and choose. Expect between 5 and 9 pounds out for each pound in.

My first crop was 1200 dollars worth in the ground, and 2 harvests later, 80,000 dollars pre-tax out. Yearly. Best decision I've ever made. Recommend less than 100 pounds in first time, get someone to come till the ground, at least an 8th of an acre. Dont plant more than 500 pounds a year, its too much. Plant 500, get 4500 pounds out, replant 500 and sell the 4000 pounds left. With restaurants closed its harder to sell as food, so set everything up ahead of time. Online seed stock, farmers markets, etc.. Good luck anon.

>>25805045
Your a lifesaver man is there a book I can read about garlic!

>>25805045
>80k
Just how much land to make that much? Something tells me it's only financially viable for a few years.

>>25804519
best part about farming?

successful harvest?
consumers and government pay you

failure harvest?
government pays you 2x

>>25805283
Based

>>25805245
You do need to cycle the soil so not to deplete it. I used an 8th of an acre the first year, between 1/4 and 1/2 the years after. I own 4 acres including home. I get around the cycling by building raised beds and buying bulk topsoil from a nursery (they come dump it in the beds.) Costs a few hundred bucks. They call garlic the "mortgage lifter," because it sells well and is hard to fuck up.

>>25805228
Happy to help, friend. China had a monopoly on garlic for a few years, almost a cartel, it was incredibly difficult to turn a profit-- but with the trade war we are no longer buying garlic en masses from them, and heirloom/gourmet garlic is entirely unrepresented in imports, so it is really a beautiful opportunity to make some generational wealth. I'll check my bookshelf, I've got one on garlic I like. Will get back to you.

>>25805228
Recommend this one. Wish you the best.

>>25804519
I saw a pecan farm for sale in Texas that had a nice house on it and included all equipment for like $350k. They said it made like $60k a year profit. Seems alright. I wouldn't want to do onions or corn that's boring. Palisade peaches might be a good niche too.

>>25805459
I had my eye on that one thanks anon. You said that garlic is viable because of the trade war with China if Biden reopens with China is it still viable?

>>25805497
If anything, I expect Biden to incentivize small farmers with organic/specialty produce for domestic use. The Chinese garlic is the kind you buy at Walmart, which is gmo'd, pesticided, and literally bleached before sale. If you're growing a strain like chesnok red, music, Spanish roja, romanian red, etc-- you should do well.

>>25805649
Thanks anon

>>25805699
Happy to help, anon.

>>25804519
I've been in your thread on /pol/
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/301848024#bottom

>>>/pol/301848024

>>25805385
can you show me your garlics please, post pic

>>25805856
/pol/ is helpful for a lot of replies /biz/ is helpful for more quality control about financial matters.

>>25804519
Finally a good thread on this board.
>>25805045
Thanks garlic anon, will look into this

Agriculture never has been and never will be financially viable on an individual level. It's only viable at an industrial level where you own hundreds of acres and benefit from economies of scale.

>>25806116
It’s my first post on /biz/ so I’m glad you approve.

>>25804519
Are you in the european union?
If you register correctly you will get your ass pumped full of subsidies. Literally one third of the money the EU spends is on farming subsidies.

>>25806208
Sadly I’m an American

I think farming is something youre born into.
Like some anon said you have to study for it and the starting cost is high.
People inherit their land and equipment.
Better luck in your next life.

>>25804519
Do it.

Make sure you hodl some Kleros tho too.

>>25804519
I know a guy that grows strawberries on less than an acre all by himself and he is a millionaire. The only help he has is for picking/packing.

>>25806318
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>>25804573
This is all bullshit you can provide exotic fruits or very high quality organics for expensive resturaunts. School will not teach you this you must have passion and experience.

>>25806384
Holy based please tell me more anon. How does he make his money? Who does he sell to

>>25806441
I believe he sells them to a company that actually sells them online. I have never asked too much i have only gotten some of his genetics and i cant grow them the way he does. I came from growing marijuana but i got out due to regulations. I now am growing exotic bananas and dragon fruits mainly as a hobby but i was thinking of doing this after talking to resturaunt owners who are unable to find the specific varieties that i grow. Again It takes a lot of time and passion for plants but i believe if youbare in the right place you can easily make a living off of a half acre organic garden if you have the right connections. I also grow vanilla bean because they grow here. Almost nowhere in us can grow them they are roughly 5 bucks a pod. Problem is that it is an orchid and it takes a very long time to get them started. Also you must hand polinate. I also sell extremely hot peppers carolina reaper and dragons breath online.

>>25806712
Any books or resources on growing plants that you recommend?

Stay tuned

Yeah people get rich out of it. One of the strategies people been using where I live is to first get into some kind of high paying job like getting into medical school/becoming a medic and then using that money to buy land and start a farm

High risk high reward agriculture can make you a billionaire anon.

>>25807046
Do I need I high paying job if my parents already have an acre of land? I feel like I can start right away.

>>25807196
An acre is nothing. You need minimum 20,000 acres.

>>25807162
Give me the details about high risk high reward crops please anon.

>>25807235
You will go to prison, but it's a question of how long it takes for them to catch you.

i work on a farm in japan. we rake in cash like mad. all hand harvest and planting. me and three other migrants. the rest are two brothers amd their dad. cutting 450k chinese cabbage this winter at about 450 yen for a box of 4. i did the entire nigauri harvest myself this year and they netted 2.7 million yen just from that. after labor and costs probably about 1.5 to 2 mil gross. i worked it out on a cabbage field ajd their hourly was probably $40 usd equivalent an hour. getting to this point is hard though.

> has a couple hundred USD in shitcoins that didn't make it

>>25807381
That's poverty tier, how poor do you have to be to think $40 an hour is good? Even $400 an hour is meh.

>>25804519
I farm memes from here. Its not a lot but its an honest days work.

https://www.memeatlas.com/

>>25807381
This. My strawberry friend is growing absolutly perfect fruit similar to how the nips do it. They look like pic.

>>25806441
I actually just txted him cause i was curious and he said he sends them to vegas. So tldr its possible but youd have to find your niche.

>>25807713
thats it. quality over quantity. we are shipping individual hakusai to people in tokyo for 1000¥ a piece

warren buffet said he bought a farm in nebraska on a whim many years ago and that it has been one of the most consistent investments he's made

>>25804519
Farmers don't make shit.

>>25804573
kek i love how magatards thought this about bloomberg but they signed right up for loeffler and perdue

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>>25807821
Thats rad man when i was there i was blown away with the effort they put into it. I always wanted to do the same with cannabis but sadly organics are frowned upon where i was at failing tests due to "microbes" including benefecials and soil is statying to be seen as dirty. So now we have weed pumped with salt and sprayed with avid but that is fine somehow. The industry is complete shit and over regulated. I am holding a license and hope to step back into it when things change.

>>25807713
Any books or resources on how to do this?

>>25808355
Read Plant Systematics cant remember thd guys name.

Then learn about pests/disease and im sure there are other books specifically about the crop you want to grow.

>>25808847
Thanks anon

>>25806384
> guy that grows strawberries on less than an acre all by himself and he is a millionaire.

but not from growing strawberries. Stop fuckin lying bro

I'm psyched to let you guys know this is a farming larp thread

>>25809473
How so?

>>25808030
As is the case with every industry. The second shit becomes an industry the rich assholes fuck it up for everyone, customer and competitor.

Does anyone have opinion about aquaponic?

Shut up guys, stop telling people to grow garlic. I don't want competition.

>>25808704
>What did kek meme by this?

>>25809787
I dont know much about it but id assume it works great for leafy greens maybe not so much heavy feeding fruits and veggies because you need a lot more phosphorous and potassium than the fish would probably like.

>>25809787
It's either currently very below it's potential or it just sucks, even the pro's seem to only be growing no calorie leaves, often micro greens, and the fish dont seem too good either. Im wanting farm raised salmon with high calorie crops like yams and beans.

>>25807046
thats my plan. went to law school, paid off that debt and now investing heavily with the plan to buy cheap land in rural NC. Reading this thread intently.