/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25777918
Because the "vaccine" is already killing people.

>>25777954
Source?

>>25777918
No one is falling for their shit except the normies feeding off MSM scare tactics and the retard boomers who just wanted to go back to bars/go on holiday.

>>25777918
They fixed ED. This vaccine was nothing to them.

>>25777918
The vaccine isn't very profitable because the public would lynch them if they priced it like they would a normal vaccine.

>>25777969
His ass

My arm hurt for a few days after I got it. That was it

>>25777969
Look up Bilderberg group nanochips shadow government DYOR

>>25777983
This is true. Nothing short of viagra 2.0 will cause phizer to moon. Hopefully it will be a girth enhancer. I got a solid 8.5 incher but I think it's too skinny for some girls.

>>25778028
Literal facebook tier

>>25778045
Why are you lying on an anonymous board?

>>25778005
I can see your nose from here you kike.

>>25777969
https://businesstoday.in/story/healthcare-worker-dies-48-hours-after-getting-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine/1/427050.html

>>25777918
Don’t invest in medical stocks retard

>>25778133
>.in

>>25778133
>24 million doses given
>1 40 year old dies of a heart attack
THE VACCINES ARE KILLING EVERYONE

Reminder that pfizer's ceo sold 60% of his shares during the pump on the day the news about the vaccine came out

>>25778146
Biotech stocks are very confusing in their valuation because the potential value of their pipeline at any given time is so significant.

>>25778133
Unhealthy overweight people die every day. There's been only 1 death that even looks like it might be linked to the vaccine, and that's not it. Head back to your Facebook conspiracy posts Karen.

>>25778188
Go take the vaccine then retard. Make sure to get one in your ass too.

>>25778289
Shalom rabbi

>>25777995
Normal vaccines are in the range of 20-30 usd. So its the COVID one. Being bought en masse they scale it up.

>>25777918
Because pharmaceutical/bio stocks are all shit. You only get ahead with inside information before they pump +500% on some bullshit clinical news before they dump. Fuck them all

>>25777969
look at the price

>>25778389
They are really good for swing trades, buying into weakness. TMO, NVS, BEAM made me some good money in the last weeks.

>>25778106
Why would I lie about having a skinny weiner?

>>25778028
Look up the best meds for an incel schitzo

I bought some Moderna the day Pfizer announced their vaccine and that proceeded to explode

>>25778028
imagine typing that shit unironically. go back to Facebook you fucking hick

>>25777995
The pfizer vaccine is 19.50 per dose, 2 required, so 39 per patient.
Pfizer is making 1.2 billions doses in 2021, so topline revenue for pfizer will be +45 billion in 2021

>>25778571
Moderna is an interesting long term bet. Their technology could change the future of medicine. It may never happen, but what they're doing has the potential to advance healthcare ahead by decades, and now half the world is their lab.

>>25778133
Yup, you're retarded

>>25778682
the epitome of dumb money

>>25778617
Sorry,i think i 2x that, is should be +21 or so billion

>>25778005
same

And I am gladly letting conspiracy freaks antivaxers die if they want to.

>>25778389
retard
biotech is THE place to make money apart from crypto just the barrier of entry is much higher since you have to understand clinical trials

>>25779103
I'm a doctor in training. I can understand clinical trials. Please, please elaborate. Do you wait until a biotech company has published a promising trial, and long them?

>>25777969
>>25778005
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/israeli-man-dies-after-receiving-covid-vaccine-5k-health-impact-events-reported-us

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/portuguese-nurse-dies-suddenly-after-receiving-covid-vaccine

https://sputniknews.com/us/202101081081701284-miami-doctor-dies-after-getting-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-reports-say/

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swiss-patient-dies-shortly-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norwegian-nursing-home-patients-dead-after-receiving-first-dose-pfizer-covid-vaccine

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/rate-adverse-reactions-covid-vaccines-already-50x-higher-flu-shot

>>25778736
I believe he's the same antisemetic curry nigger that was unironically defending India in another thread.

>>25779061
Glad people like are getting sterilized desu. Enjoy.

>>25779061
You're not going to shame people into taking it. Just shut the fuck up.

>>25778289
I was for the vaccine until your post lmao. Now im going to be circumspect and read the studies.

>>25779163
Look up ONCT and MREO, my two bets for 2021

Create twitter acc and search for biotechfags via stock tickers, u should be able to spot quality content from bullshit as a doctor, to follow narrative.
Money currently is in immunology, cancer, rare-disease treatment, bit in neurology.

Tricker part is extrapolating good early clinical phase data, market sentiment and expectations with chart reading, insider buys (follow the money), managmental decisions, funding, timeline of developement etc.
There is not a single good answer as to when buy. If early data looks good (due diligence), theres an event coming and everything else fore-mention aligns, buy, good chance is that you are buying a winner.

>>25779329
I don't give a fuck
Don't take it

>>25779265
Wtf a based pajeet?

>>25779329
I can't wait for antivaxxers to be refused from particupating in much of public life, when they bring out little certification cards. You have to be some special kind of retard to literally witness a global pandemic shutting down several countries, killing your (grand)parents and still spouting that regurgitated bullshit.

>>25777918
mrna vaccines kill people. you can take my jab though.

>>25779396
Thanks bro I spend half my "free time" reading trials anyway, let's see if I can profit off it.

>>25779061
>die
From what? From the flu?

>>25777983
>They fixed ED
kek, that was a fucking accident from a heart medication. sure led to a lot of boner and pre-workout drink profits though.

>>25779437
Classic misdirection. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend though.

>>25779466
also as a "side effect" you will probably hate yourself for not getting into onco/immunology as I am:) Godbless

>>25779488
>>25779430

its a scam dumb tards

>>25779367
theres some really interesting things in the white papers.
literally the same guys telling you its safe just made billions from patent rights and profit shares.. the safety mathematically is still out pending results from long term studies.. literally no way to know until later..
>no thanks ill wait a little bit. my area is safe and ill wait for natural antibodies via herd immunity same as for every other exotic strain that needs to die out naturally..
..this whole thing is a good symptom to how bad our medical field really is, these attitudes via propaganda is why we have anti-biotic resitances growing in epidemic proportions.. which is infinatly deadlier than any health crisis or other social issue to date.. give it ten years and that'll be the panic.
>tl;dr we need to modify our RNA to prevent antibiotic resistance in 10 years because media said panic.
what happened to math guys?

>>25778005
>>25779451
>>25779061
Rest in Peace ahead of time bros, im sorry for your stupidity but you chose this path

>>25779602
natural herd immunity is an oxymoron you fucking moron

>>25779233
Damn I was ready to call you guys schizos but thats actually pretty fucked up

>>25777918
and to OPs question, there are no actual assets transferred to my knowledge at this point, just agreements and pledges so far. funds withheld until there's no going back regarding the rollout.. knowing the gov process they didn't send over a truck with cash as soon as they said theyd buy it.
besides the spike that happened when the news was relevant, this is trading on 12-month-old info at this point..

>>25779662
bro 99% of all contagions die out naturally because a population develops antibodies to a large enough point that it can no longer spread among the population relative to the density of the area..
>come again?

>>25779233
>"A 75-year-old man from the north of the country suffering from active heart disease and malignant disease, who has undergone a number of heart attacks, was vaccinated this morning against the coronavirus and died at home shortly after the procedure."
>A 56-year-old doctor from Florida died two weeks after he received the first dose of the coronavirus vaccine manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech. The cause of his death was ruled to be a rare blood disorder.
Almost like there's a pattern emerging here.
What's the incentive (if there is one) behind creating a potentially harmful vaccine?

>>25779715
>bro 99% of all contagions die out naturally
such as?

>>25779662
Lol this is the newest propaganda they make, the WHO changed their definition of immunity from natural immunity+ vaccine immunity to only vaccine immunity a few months ago https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=586x10000:format=jpg/path/s56fbd84d0e131e9b/image/ic59bc16b7ab67d2b/version/1609619157/image.jpg
So fuck off you über shill

>>25779396
Any opinion on ATOS bio bro?

Stop that fearmongering on biz with third tier trash sites you schizos and head back to pol or b.
The mRNA vaccine is safe and if you are too chicken to take it go for monkey shit or adenovirus based vaccines.

>>25779451
You need to lay offf the mainstream media fren , drinking way too much kool aid if you think this virus is anything worse than a common cold

>>25779662
btw i did call this happening 10 years ago when baxter pharma contaminated the vaccines for the genpop flu strain with actual bird flu..

i also remember them blaming china for certain other contamination efforts regarding essential medical equipment a few years after that..

say whatever you like, but i'd like to hear an argument as to why im retarded that wasnt provided to you by meme chambers or the TV man who says true stuff..

>>25779756
the 4000 flu strains you dont hear about every year

>>25779718
There isn't an incentive to make a harmful vaccine. But there is a large incentive to just toss something out the door, regardless of safety and effectiveness.

>>25779779
Not familiar
Is it? https://atos.net
I see a lot of buzzwords but no product pipeline

>>25779783
fuck off dumb retard

>>25779819
I honestly don't know how to respond to this

As I stated before, I don't give a fuck anymore. People are morons, patients are dying, b117 is spreading like hell. IDGAF, let it all burn already. Don't take the vaccine.

>>25779718
If they died with COVID they would be counted in the data as dying from it. It's exact same fucking bullshit to count them as dying from the vaccine.

>>25778289
Unhealthy overweight people die every day. Yet it has nothing to do with their underlying conditions, and more to do with covid. Head back to your reddit safe space faggot.

>>25779894
>0.0001% OF US ARE GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!
>IDGAF, LET IT BURN ALREADY

>>25779945
nice basedack

>>25779850
Sorry, should have narrowed it down.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/atos

1st quarter 2021 they expect results on:

>Phase 1 Clinical Study of AT-301 Nasal Spray Being Developed for the Coronavirus Causing COVID

>Interim Phase 2 Data from Endoxifen Breast Cancer Treatment

Red flags - 3 Direct offerings in quick succession since December.

>>25779763
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67362031924-3/fulltext
and here. tl;dr, the paper says "yyou ccant treat people like cattle animal herds are different and corona is special"

>>25779756
literally everything that doesnt reach pandemic or outbreak status. so im being super conservative with 99% btw

>>25779819
btw theres no herd immunity to flu, It "dies out" due to not being able to transmit itself

>>25779061
Your redditness is showing.

You cunts believe everything you are told.

>>25779860
Have you ever thought about this uncertainty not being addressed by world leaders because they dont want organized crime and normal folks rob what is arguably one of the scarcest goods at the moment? Similar to the “masks dont work” fiasco when everyone with a brain cell started to hamster in Jan/Feb?
politicians and wealthy are getting vaccinated. Most big companies are securing doses of mRNA vaccine for top management without wanting to attract attention that they “take it away from the risk groups”.
I am open to change my mind but do let me know why they would roll out a vaccine that is more deadly than the actual virus?

>>25779718
>Sell moderately expensive vaccine
>Kills person
>>Oh dear it's a rare disorder that isn't covered by your life insurance, sorry goy
>>Oh dear your 401k doesn't get cashed out because you're dead, sorry goy
>>Oh dear your real estate gets foreclosed because you died, sorry goy
Etc etc

>>25779756
https://viralzone.expasy.org/678
https://health.ri.gov/diseases/infectious/
why do only some of those require population treatment at all? why do only some require vaccines?
thats right anon, because biotech, medicine and treatment of genpop is a highly complex field that more people should read about..

why do you trust buzzfeed writers so much?

>>25780038
which is population antibody build up relatvie to population density in a given living and travel area over time. literally what is meant by herd immunity..

>>25780022
Okay this looks a bit better
Haven't heard about it /looked into it since its p low mcap but thats a good sign
that endoxifen trial doesn't look good from brief glance but bigger concern might be their PR
Looks like a cashgrab, I would move on
https://twitter.com/adamfeuerstein/status/1250759434713944066

>>25780059
>>25780098
>>25779568

>>25780031
>yyou ccant treat people like cattle animal herds
hahahaha thats what they are doing right now with the "lockdowns"
if they didnt want to treat us like that we would be freee in our desicions, and natural infections are something always has happened

>>25779837
So let's hypothesize that the virus IS a threat to society (but not deadly enough for massive deaths) and is a harm to infrastructure and way of living because of XYZ, do you;
1) Wait to perfect a vaccine that is 100% safe and effective, but means increasing the length of time of restrictions in place until said vaccine, further destroying the economy in the long run or;
2) Throw a vaccine out as fast as possible that could lead to a small minority of people have adverse effects, but could mean reducing restrictions, leading to an economy recovering sooner rather than later, benefitting the majority in the long run
That's taking into account that at least some of what the media has been telling us to be true, however, though it's clear that scientists and leaders have taken a systemic approach, rather than an empathetic one. But is an empathetic approach (perfecting a vaccine to have 0 potential downsides) always the best?

>>25780038
Aaaaand why is it suddenly not able to transmit itself?
Spell it
H e ... ..........

>>25778045
Mine is only 6 inches but mega girth, particularly at the base...women love it, particularly Asian girls. No cervix busting, but they get that well fucked and stretched feeling after I'm done. That alone is making it my frens.

>>25780379
weather mainly

>>25780442
So you deny the fact that you are immune for a time after a virus infection? Very interesting.

>>25780312
it's just leftist academic prose, it's like when they all got caught publishing fake trash studies a while ago they just doubled down on it instead of fixing the problems with submission review and citation.. another 10year problem thats been brewing btw that people called ages ago academic fraud and the pedestalling of useless backwards ideas coz appealing buzzwords and sharability.
fuck em all, this isnt even accounting for statistical analysis, p-hacking and results bias weightings.
when did we become illiterate? when did innumeracy become such a problem people literally can no longer read a study or report..?

>>25780512
its bait.
same guy from maccas and london fag 50x id say. most of the rage bait is him, as long as it

>>25780442
Climate change is a hoax idiot

>>25780442
The point is that herd immunity can come about through mass infection leading to eventual resistance OR vaccines creating mass resistance. Diseases spread as fast as they can until they can’t, due to general resistance in the population. This general resistance can occur without ever using a vaccine though, it will just potentially take longer and take more lives

>>25780584
Yes but he denies this
>>25779662

>>25780267
Thanks for your input.

Warrants are at $1.05, so shouldn't end up bagholding but at the end of January I'm out of that.

Gut feeling had me thinking simmilar as you do. That's the gist with small caps, a lot of shit to sift through to find a worthwhile stock.

>>25780519
Because liberals unironically believe that you should not do your own research or think critically about decisions, policies etc. made by experts. If someone is an expert at something and you aren’t, doubting anything they say means you are insane. Basically media-induced gaslighting that a decent chunk of the population now participates in to show how much they believe in science (a sinister phrase, you aren’t supposed to have to *believe* in science, you’re supposed to simply know that it works or doesn’t work in a particular instance)

>>25777918
vaccines aren't real

>>25779367
Was against the vaccine until I read this post, now I will get 5-6 doses at once of multiple vaccines

>>25778005
>>25779061
Congrats dear NPCs!
You are now sterile and full of nanotubes ready to control your behavior!

>>25778477
might be a stupid question, but how the hell NVS stock price got from thousands to around 30 dollars so quick

>>25780670
Natural herd immunity is not an oxymoron. If a population of wild boars suffering from gangrenous ear infections in 8,697 B. C. were mostly infected and survived, most of the herd would be immune to the gangrenous ear infection. Herd immunity has no essential relationship with vaccines; as such the boars becoming immune could be described as a natural process because it occured without human intervention through vaccines

>>25780899
Where is the link with Soros in your story?

>>25780842
>literal virgin
Like infertality matters when you dont have sex anyways lol

>>25778196
Yes, that's a red flag
>muh vaccines are ebil and cause autism
No, but some are rushed and poses higher risks of severe side effects.

>>25779543
my mother died years ago from melanoma cancer, once other treatment didnt work anymore she participated in a trial of immunology. this was in 2012/13. this is the first time i am seeing a reference to immunology in cancer again.. can you give me a quick rundown? is it working?

Op here,
100 shitposts so far. Can some answer the f* question ? pls

>>25778196
>>25781046
also reminder that the people who have their names on the patent rights also have their names as scientists in the safety trial studies.
make of that whatever you like.
they're instant billionaires already

>>25781537
The answer was in the thread, the jew CEO sold an huge amount just at the announcement which was a red flag.

>>25781537
i did, news is months old

>>25777918
its not a real vaccine, fixes nothing except maybe youll get leas fucked up

>>25780584
theres no immunity with covid you stupidn fuck people are getting it even after they already got it. do you live under a fucking rock?

>>25782775
stop hanging around /pol/ you fucktard