/biz/ - Business & Finance

Right, I’ve only been active on this board since like June of last year. What’s the story of Mr Big Bob? I’m curious about the lore

Ok threads baked, off to bed than for work in the morning.

>>25729351
He's one of the anons here. Owns a mining company and takes up 10% of all threads with his posts, sometimes insufferable but not in bad faith

>>25729423
good night

Previous thread was the least comfy in a loooooooooong time. It's fucking ridiculous, we have a down day and all the shills come instantly out to spam. Hopefully this thread will be more comfy.

>>25729423
Sweet dreams, Baker-kun

>>25729423
'night PAN MAN

>>25729423
Good night Mr. MAN. Thanks for baking

>>25729431
*Metals recycling company, my bad

>>25729443
I’m not the only one who noticed lol. I came here looking to chill and hang out on a Friday night and just play some fuckign Minecraft and shit, not have to do goddam research in order to BTFO dumb faggots
And that DME Nigger is getting on my nerves. Luckily I’m 2-0 for getting him to run away from threads crying

:3

>>25729478
A-are those diapers, anon..?

>>25729478
I want a current year Noah's Ark but my LCS just won't bring it in

>>25729466
I'm an environmental contractor in mining. So yeah, a mining company.

the recycling is more famous because of my drunk post but makes up less than 5% of my companies' revenue

Posting stack des

>>25729478
...Diapermoney?

>>25729496
Honestly you can’t even call yourself a stacker until you have a solid base of Pampers. Pampers has been artificially suppressed by the big banks for decades now, and they can’t keep on doing it for long. History’s largest bull run on Pampers is just starting, and you’re gonna kick yourself forever if you don’t get in on it now

>>25729525
ooh nice stack of gold
>>25729539
I love you

>>25729539
FUCK, I must’ve bought the wrong Pamps, all I have are these worthless pieces of garbage

>>25729561
are those silver pamps?

Reposting this from the end of last thread about JPM making wild cryto speculations:

>>25728696
Trying to feed into the normiecattle buzz around crypto in general. It gives it an air of authority to say "JPM thinks bitcoin is going to a jillionty dollars!!11!". The reality is they can say whatever they want, but it doesn't square with their actions. JPM inherited Lehman Bros. Massive silver position when they went tits up, and they've been buying a dragon hoard of physical while using their control of the derivative contracts to dictate its price. And they'll be damned if some goy tries to get in on their play.

This of course leads into the conspiracy theory I completely believe in about JPM stacking on behalf of the US government in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis.

>>25729548
Arigathanks
These are just my sovereigns. I got the case for Christmas, so I’ve only been buying sovereign when I get gold

/pmg/ frens I'm feeling like picrel. I don't see how this clown show can go on through the rest of this year without permanently destroying freedom forever. I have a small inheritance that I've largely invested in PMs, but I don't have anything else to my name. I don't even have any credentials because I dropped out of STEM college because I was demoralized by all the filth going on. 2020 was the year I would've graduated, so I would've just graduated into an entry level position making ~50k per year or be jobless if I didn't manage to get an internship by the time I finished. Now I have to work minimum wage and I just don't see any point to that seeing as I have no hope of saving enough to actually own anything. There's just no hope besides hanging onto my stack of lead, brass, and PMs. The vaccines are coming. I'm tired.

>>25729607
1 oz silver Pamps. I won them in a contest, and I love them very much

>>25729661
so fucking cool

>>25729351
There was and still is a poster who comes on here from time to time and acts like an asshole and talks about how we're "doing everything wrong" and how we should get into debt instead of buying PMs. He makes a bunch of claims about making millions off contractor work for the government and mining companies without giving any real proof. His antics can end up making up a quarter of the posts on a thread.
After several days of /pmg/ being shat up by his constant assholery, the original someone copied one of his more conceited posts from the previous thread along with this image. The name Big Bob originated with that post. The pasta continued to be reposted off and on for several threads and eventually variations arose and the name Big Bob stuck, still being used to refer to the original poster when he shows up.

>>25729686
he's the poster directly above and below you

>>25729710

>>25729478
>a 2 Reichsmark
>Pink Diapers
I'm picking up mixed messages here unless you're trying to indicate that you have a Baby Girl that you're trying to get into stacking.

>>25729293
Why isn't gold rising and VIX falling eventhough everything that has happened has happened?

>>25729764
it goes back further than that since people were pretending to be me even before that. Making fun of me but also trolling /pmg/ with stuff that sounds like something I'd say. So I started waves of shills and trolls with every post, until dozens of people were copying my lines and arguments to torment the super serious anons here.

I am several very famous trolls on /pmg/, not all of which that fucklord even knows of.

>>25729823
VIX dumped a 20% rise this week on Wed, and on Thursday slapped down another spike.
Metal prices are down Bc of yield numbers rising due to bonds getting dumped

>>25729859
You sound like someone I would pull hair out over
A pleasure to meet you, Big Bob

I have a friend who's ready to pull the trigger on going from 0 metals to 100 oz of silver. Post all your redpill posts to help me convince him

>>25729960
this could be your friend

>>25729960
Here's one

Wiener


>>25729956
A few days back I was so convinced he was a shill I posted Wiener at him too

>>25729960
This is likely the single largest, most effective red pill for PM’s

>>25729987
Wiener... hehe

What's the best PM to make a quick profit? or is there no such thing

>>25730007
>something

>>25729879
Yes. What I don't understand is why it was all commodities that got slammed? Oil being the exception because of OPEC.
If there is an expectation of inflation, where does it come from if not from raw material price increase?

>>25730034
Be prepared to hold for five years minimum

>>25729960

what do you guys think about platinum, its lagged the run compared to gold/silver as well as other commodities. Looking to take a position in a precious metal as a hedge for all the the other shit I own and platinum seems to be the most appealing at the moment

>>25730034
>What's the best PM to make a quick profit? or is there no such thing
Put lead through your brain

That, or junk silver. You can get it at or near spot, it’s recognizable and popular so it sells quickly, and so on.
If you’re attempting to make a quick profit, you’re autistic for coming to Pm’s

>>25729956
I'm not bad unless I'm drunk. I stack gold, recycle silver, brass, plats, aluminum, and lead. I collect coins. I love mining.
I switch ID's 6 times a thread and irritate the fuck out of people.

Nice to meet you too

>>25730066
We're all autistic on /biz/ fren
Now what's junk silver?

>>25730061
Physical platinum and palladium have very high premiums and are more difficult to sell, I wouldn't advice stacking them unless you want some for the novelty

>>25730061
Meme metal, don’t buy it unless it’s for the pretty coins
It is a mostly industrial metal, with very few intentions to be used as a financial vehicle, as opposed to silver being very much both

>>25730054

>>25729985
pic related
>>25729987
based weiner poster
>>25730007
Hmmm.jpg
>>25730054
Not sure how this is a redpill on metals, but I'll take it. Keep em coming boys

>>25730080
Kill yourself, go back to your shitcoin threads pajeet

>>25730080
>Now what's junk silver?
Silverware basically, tends to be .925 fine (sterling) or less

>>25730103

>>25730085
>>25730088
Right but say if I went for an ETF or something, I made decent money playing palladium mines 2 years back and haven't look at the metal sector since and am looking to get back but gold and silver have been ruining too much imo

>>25730103
I literally showed you the quantified destruction caused by a lack of legitimate value in a financial system. That’s Literally all you need

>>25730103
>>25730109

>>25730129

I do my DD /pmg/

>>25730108
you wish, i'm full blooded american nigger
>>25730111
ah, so really good silverware and not just cheap shit

>>25730111
Stop telling hm things

>>25730145

>>25730124
>ETF or something
I wouldn't recommend any ETFs. If you want to have exposure/leverage to metals and don't want physical I would advice mining companies, provided you know what you're doing of course. We talk about miners a lot here and I've made a pastebin in the OP that gives useful links for learning about the industry -- you'll need to know how to DD if you're going to invest in juniors. For majors though you can probably get away with just looking at their P/E
>>25730149
based
>>25730155
Naw any silverware is good for junk silver, just make sure it's not plated shit. Requires some knowledge.

>>25730089
>>25730109
>>25730129
>>25730145
Well this is horrifying

>>25730175
>>25730204

>>25730109
>>25730129
>>25730145
If this is the future you're expecting, and I ask you in the most serious way possible, why don't you just kill yourself now?

I always forget how large of a market cap gold has...

>>25730217
>>25729657
Considering it
>>25730216

>>25730124
Again, if it rises with gold and silver, it’s for separate reasons. Even more so with palladium, that is purely industrial (and far too over priced in the 2k range)

Any good ways to get junk silver for canadians?

>>25730217
I mean CBDC's will come, that's a given. As for the Orwellian future boogeyman that's about 50/50 serious and meming for me at least

>>25730197
Hmm, how do you know if something is plated or real silver?

>>25730197
right yeah im aware that miners are the best play however there are no platinum exclusive miners that are listed in north america, they're all listed in south africa. Hence the only way I was able to find a pure play was the metal etf. I am aware of how to do DD I am primarily an equity investor and have been for a long time just looking for a bit of diversity from what I normally own

>>25730237
Any idea on what the yearly rise on it is? eg if i bought 1k worth of gold now how much would it be in 2 years

>>25730253
r/PMSforsale, they ship to Canada, and it has some of the best deals online.


I feel like a shill when I keep having to talk about it, someone make Baker include it in the pastebin

>>25730243
yeah I get palladium is a completely detached market and is an industrial metal but is there really no link between platinum and gold/silver?

OH my God. My aurcana came into my room with a plate of silver nuggets and I literally slapped the plate out of her hand and started screaming at her. How can this be guys? I thought the loan was financed?!? I thought 30 million ounces was a lot?! How can this be? I thought they were drilling well in Mexico? I'm literally shaking.

>>25730262
patina is a good telltale sign of real silverware. Junk silver also almost always has markings like "925" or the like somewhere on the metal. Also plated can be magnetic whereas junk silver is only very slightly magnetic, barely noticeable. I'm not very seasoned on these myself, I only own picrel. There are some anons who pretty much specialize the stuff though

>>25730285
None.
Zip, zero, nada, goose eggs
The only correlation is people being confused and thinking it has value as an investment vehicle in the way Gold and Silver do

>>25730297
>file name
I giggled

>>25730264
>there are no platinum exclusive miners
Well when you think about it there are really no metal exclusive miners at all -- although I'm sure you know that already. Off the top of my head though you could look into https://www.platinumgroupmetals.net/home/default.aspx maybe? I'm sure there are also companies that have a bunch of PGM's in their resources, I think Canada Nickel Company has some, not sure.

>>25730310
interesting, ok well you may have just saved me anon appreciate the opinion, might look into a classic gold hedge then.

>>25730279
Sir I suggest you research the difference between Return On Investment and Return Of Investment

>>25730347
Yeah I looked at PTM as its toronto listed however I learned that they don't actually have a producing mine and don't aim to produce till 2024

>>25730365
It's to cover what you put in yeah?

>>25730393
That's what you're going to get for most mining companies I guess, especially juniors. It won't matter in a bullrun on metals, investors will buy mining companies regardless. I don't currently own a single producing miner, just explorers and developers.

>>25730034
If I could do it all over again I would have bought nothing but eagles or silver half dollars. Just have a big ass bag of it. I spent enough money in June to buy 160 oz silver and 20 oz gold. I don't regret the gold even though I did get more "exotic" pieces like Australian dragons, queens beasts, Korean Phoenix but I don't really regret it. I just hope it doesn't bite me in the ass when it comes times to sell. But if I could do it all over again I'd either buy strictly eagles, maples, or junk. Either that or buy 100 oz bars.

>>25730362
Gold to hedge, silver to gain. You mentioned in your first post the fact that platinum was lagging, which is why it appealed to you. If you’re looking to gain, silver has far more potential than gold does
But that’s all you chief

Please explain newfag why silver sell price is much lower than gold? For example, you can buy 100g of Valcambi for 5,043EUR and they will buy it from your for 4823.75EUR, however one kg of silver costs 756.06EUR and they will buy from you only for 671.31. How can you make any profits at all? I don't believe that PM could moon like shitcoins. You're guys buying PM only for doomsday scenario, right?

What do you guys think of rhenium/tantalum? Rarer than gold and far cheaper at current costs. Somehow I think industrial applications will increase over time and the low supply coupled with rarity will create a profit opportunity. Were elements like palladium and rhodium always as highly valued as gold? Also, where would you get good sale prices for rare PMs that aren’t commonly traded in a high price scenario?

>>25730473
Fuck off

>>25730449
100 silver eagle coins is about 3k off apmex, what ya think?

>>25730477
See: >>25730490

>>25730477
No idea about rhenium but I recall people talking about tantalum here before. Heard it really is in a supply squeeze, will be in short supply in the future too.
>>25730473
>You're guys buying PM only for doomsday scenario, right?
Not quite, I bought my stack just to hedge for hyper-inflation which is a tail risk worth considering.

>>25730503
Lol, would’ve been a great deal a day ago

>>25730543
What, was it like 5 dollars lower?

>>25730531
The only reference to tantalum around here is the one dude who stacks it for the meme

>>25730561
Pan Man said it's in short supply.

>>25730257
CBDC's are 50/50 Orwellian

>>25730573
In that case, no comment. I don’t like to get involved in purely industrial metals, it’s a whole different beast than Gold+Silver

>>25730615
yeah I wouldn't stack them myself but I'm slowly beginning to get miner exposure to base metals

>>25730552
So you know how on the chart for silver, in the past 24 hours, there’s a biiiiiiiiig old red line going downward?

>>25730490
Nah, fuck you. Go to bed. You’re drunk.
>>25730511

>>25730646
Ever heard of premiums?

>>25730473
I add to my gold when treasuries are hot trash (savings accounts are a joke). I hold otherwise as a store of value i.e. this is MY money and I become the bank. Haven't been too interested in adding silver. I also have a stock portfolio as well with a small part in miners as a leveraged play on gold and silver. I have been toying with using SPACs below NAV as an emergency fund, again because FUCK savings accounts.

>>25730629
TFW Pan Man is slowly trying to subvert us into investing in base metals by giving us Miners, so he can stack all the gold and silver for himself

>>25730673
soon we'll be posting our copper wire stacks

>>25730648
I didn’t think you were being serious when yo asked about industrial metals
My apologies, nigger

>>25730615
That’s awfully subjective. Gold and Silver have as much “value” as any other rare elements insofar as hoarding is concerned. Gold is pretty, it doesn’t tarnish and it has industrial uses. Sounds a lot like tantalum.

>>25730703
The past couple thousand years of human monetary history would disagree
Unlike industrial metals, gold and silver are traditional financial vehicles who’s original popularity was as a currency, and as such it still holds its value as such. Silver is the exception, I would consider it a hybrid between financial and industrial, but it is financial first

>>25730703
Gold is far more rare (.004ppm) compared to tantalum (2ppm). Scarcity is an important feature of real money

>>25730683
>not already having a copper wire stack

>>25730793
oh no
you're already corrupted!

>>25730683
>soon we'll be posting our copper wire stacks

>>25730832
ITS SPREADING

>>25730034
Just buy merc dimes and, if /pol/ is right and civil war kicks off in less than a few weeks time, you'll have a bag of blowjobs instantaneously.

>>25730668
>>25730531
Thanks for the answer, I have 250G of gold just because of possible fiat crash, as for inflation I battle it with P2P lending, which makes me 10-12% yearly, so I cover current inflation rate.

>>25730490
Fuck you too nigger.

Friendly reminder that we cannot lose.

>>25730503
I would say get it. I spent 3k on my silver and wish I would have done that. I'm happy with my collection though. It's got cool little things but I'd rather just have a big block that's easy to sell. Id say yeah get it.

>>25730820
Lol, I work for my uncle installing solar. He doesn’t care if I grab the little scrap bits that can’t be used
Some day I’ll down into one beautiful, glorious bar, and sell it for beer money

>>25730924
>inflation I battle it with P2P lending
Lending club or something better?

>>25730756
Very well, then explain rhenium. It’s value is lower and yet it is less abundant than gold

>>25731022
any idea on the rising worth of it?
>>25730904
I don't want no blowjobs unless they're form monsters girls

>>25731080
Rhenium (1ppb) so there is 4 times less of it than gold, which may be a problem because too much scarcity means it may be practically unobtainable in most situations. I don't know much about it. From google search it's not gold color, psychologically unappealing. I don't know how it is extracted. Probably needs modern methods to be extracted. You can look that up yourself if you want.

>>25731022
also what's wrong with the silver you got? all silver is equal in worth no?

>>25731080
Until recently (within the last century), it was an absolute pain in the ass to refine and purify. So I'd hazard a guess that it doesn't have the legacy of gold meaning use in currency or jewelry.

>>25731158
I have. It’s cheaper than gold per unit. A pound can be had for less than $1000. I don’t know why yellow gold is more appealing than rhenium, but to each their own

>>25731181
Premium and redeeming it upon selling

>>25731251
Just sell it to someone who will melt it if you're having trouble finding a buyer

>>25731222
Ok, but gold is only valuable because of its rarity. I get that there isn’t demand for it, but, theoretically, if there were demand then it would rise in value.

Here’s a basic question: when did palladium and rhodium become stackable? There isn’t popular jewelry for those elements and yet they’re very valuable, in rhodium’s case more value than gold. Why?

>>25731264
How does that in any way solve the problem of losing money by being unable to redeem premium you paid when you go to sell..?

>>25731271
Gold is also valuable because of science applications and drills etc, i think?
i'm dumb so don't quote me on that

>>25731271
>Ok, but gold is only valuable because of its rarity
That’s where you’re wrong kiddo

>>25731284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rdpX8_K3vM
I don't know what you mean by premium, but im trying my best to keep up as an idiot

>>25731318
Premium being the amount over market price you paid for the silver
If I bought 10 oz of silver for $30 an oz, when spot price is $28, I’m paying $20 ($2 per oz) in premium
The problem is, when YOU go to sell, often times you won’t be able to find a buyer who will take it off you for $2 over spot. They’ll ask for less, and you’ll either agree or take your money to someone else who will do the exact same thing

>>25731303
So, if gold were as abundant as oxygen or iron then it would be as valuable as it currently is? I have two ounces of gold. I’m not some stacklet that knows nothing about PMs. I was hoping someone here had insight into how and why PMs like rhodium and palladium have garnered value while Rhenium hasn’t. I suppose I’ll wait for pan man to come by.

>>25731271
Palladium is the opposite of Rhenium. It is relatively easily to separate and cast into solid ingots. It helps that for decades the supply simply could not keep up with the demand in catalytic converters, spark plugs, among other things which effectively remove it from the global reserve.
It is easy, and more importantly cheap, to alloy with other metals for use in jewelry or dentistry. I don't know anything about rhodium.

>>25731401
Then just wait even longer until the market price goes higher then what you initially paid?

>>25731405
WHEN REFERRING TO STRICTLY INDUSTRIAL METALS
List the industrial uses of each, figure out the supply side of things/availability/etc, what industries are expanding and shrinking to cause rising/sinking demand, and viola

WHEN REFERRING TO METALS THAT ARE USED A TRADITIONAL FINANCIAL VEHICLES AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL METALS
You need to take that VERY BIG BLOODY FACTOR into account. The Romans didn’t mint their coins in fucking Palladium

>>25731430
That’s the optimal situation
And if you need the money now, then what?

So if I buy a roll of 20 1964 Kennedy half dollars, it appears to have 12.5*20*0.9 = 225g of silver total, which is worth $184 or so from what I can tell.

The online dealer is selling the roll for $197.86. Is that good? 7.5%? Should I just go to a local dealer?

Also if I ever sell for a profit am I supposed to report the capital gains to the IRS? Not joking.

>>25731497
Probably because the Romans couldn’t extract palladium from ore let alone delineate it from other metals, brainlet. You really think if Nero was wearing a laurel wreath made of palladium that the Romans wouldn’t think it was valuable?

>>25731497
Not to mention, palladium is currently more valuable than gold

>>25731703
you're retarded go back to the hole you came from

>>25731674
Literally go buy it off some Fag Redditor for spot +$4 to ship it
Gains wise, so long as you aren’t over $10k you’re good with the IRS. And if you’re over 10k, sell it for cash

>>25731727
>Probably because the Romans couldn’t extract palladium
You prove my fucking point and call me a brain let in the same sentence. Enjoy losing your money in Fagium or whatever retarded shit it is you’re buying

>>25731728
Nah, you’re retarded. Anyone overlooking relative rarity in elements that simultaneously values rare elements is a hypocrite and has a narrow point of view.

Keep stacking gold and silver. Everything else is worthless.

>>25731729
wait really? why would the redditor do that, they're trying to unload it? also how do you not get screwed in that situation, I guess paypal has some guarantees? sorry for being dense.

>>25731764
Palladium is currently more valuable than gold, you nonce. I can tell you’ve never looked at a real PM exchange.

>>25731793
Enjoy trying to sell your dark rocks to someone who has never heard of them before, let alone seen or held them. Your investment will have no liquidity

>>25731793
>>25731824
Okay, little pirate man lol
Just stop sneeding over the fact you’re a stacklet, and trying to find some alternative metal to buy so you look smart

Cost avg $16 and $1300 respectively nigger

>>25731823
It’s all good mate. Redditors are a special breed of autistic and like to sell for low prices because they “love their community” and other bulldhit. Point is, they sell fucking cheap. I have bought $50fv off r/PMSforsale and paid spot or even under spot for it.
As for getting screwed, they are VERY anal about verification, background, having a transaction history if you’re a seller, etc. They even have a whole fucking subreddit devoted to background checks on users. So I trust it, and so long as you aren’t retarded you’ll be fine. If you’re that worried, they even offer a middle man service free of charge

>>25731920
fuckin sweet. I've been on the chan for a while and I guess this is about as high a praise of reddit as I'll ever see.

>>25729607
No. Corn based.

>>25731519
Then you shouldn't have spent 100% of your fiat on metals
Keep some for emergencies

>>25731980
No trust me I fucking hate reddit and every faggot who uses it unironically
Which is why I love telling people on here about it. Go and steal good deals intended for other wholesome 100 Redditors. Fuck them, cheap silver.
Pic related is a case full of gold sovereigns. I paid spot price for every single one of them

>>25730217
>If this is the future you're expecting, and I ask you in the most serious way possible, why don't you just kill yourself now?

I'm honestly not sure.

>>25732015
Congrats on being financially responsible moron, doesn’t help the point.
The point is, you’re rarely if ever in a position to sell silver you bought for a large premium and get that premium back. The only exception of this is on shit like ASE’s, which is why they’re so popular among stackers even though they normally go for a couple bucks over spot

>>25732052
Please don’t, anon. Stack on, ad infinitum

Well since Chinese virus came out I can't buy more but here what I got right now.

>>25731062
>Lending club
Something like that, but local version in my country since it's under supervision by our national bank if things go nasty.

The Annunaki from planet Niburu came to earth to mine gold to fix thier atmosphere. There is literally no gold on asteroids.

>>25732086
thx for tha support >>25730241
>>25729657

>>25732202
I’m normally wary of anything Bank related, but if youre getting 10% on P2P loaning then he’ll, if it works it works

>>25730241
BTW w/r/t pic, from what I can tell on the internet, gold is actually not normally produced in a supernova but is somehow blown out during the merger of 2 neutron stars that turn into a black hole seconds later. It's pretty impressive there is any gold on Earth at all.
also relevant to >>25732206

>>25729657
Anon, please listen. Your situation is very much recoverable. Anyone’s is.
Money is not necessary for living a happy life, and it is a bad habit to equate “high paying job” with success. Shit, if I were in your situation, I’d take my shit and move somewhere cheap. You can live like a king in somewhere like Texas on a decent wage, without a hoard of PM’s behind you should you need the funds.
Stacking is important, but you are so much more important. Take care of yourself before you take care of your finances. From what it sounds like, you did it backwards at the beginning and got demoralized midway through. Which is fine. Just please, know you can turn things around for yourself.

>>25732142
man pandas are just aesthetic af

>>25732414
Thanks anon, that means a lot to me. I know this isn't really the place to seek sympathy and a lot of us have it bad, but sometimes I feel it's good to acknowledge our situation or at least vent. Don't want to turn /pmg/ into a blog posting thread, so that's why I got right back to pmg posting after that post.

I think you're right about moving to a cheaper place. It's hard to find cheap areas nowadays though. There was just a thread yesterday where a Cali refugee was talking about buying up a bunch of houses in poor small towns in the midwest which is the best candidate for me. These urbanite exodus niggers are jacking up rental and property prices. The midwest can't just die in peace it has to be smothered to death too. Will still try to find a cheap area though. Thanks

>>25729561
...suspecto....anon you take that to an LCS and have them wand it?

>>25732384
>but is somehow blown out during the merger of 2 neutron stars that turn into a black hole seconds later. It's pretty impressive there is any gold on Earth at all.
Anything higher on the periodic table than Iron/Nickel requires neutron star collisions.

>>25729351
Some retard that makes the same tired shitposts constantly, but then again that's most of us. This is /biz/ after all.

redpill me on silver over gold

Is it just because it's more practical to trade against food in the apocalypse

>>25732868
>but by the same notion, feces is only produced by living creatures and is only found in a single place in the entire known universe. relative to other commodities its production and its universal distribution is relatively rare.

>>25732504
True and design changes every year

>>25732142
>Chinese and Mexican coins

Very Californian

>>25733049
Spectral analysis from exoplanet searches search for methane for that very reason.

>>25733020
Silver has more volatility than gold and hence upside
Silver is consumed in industry while most of the gold ever mined is still around

>>25733127
Am from Texas but covid-19 hit so was not able get from other countries.

>>25733164
not really though, thats similar to saying asteroid mining is the future.
Youre trying to fit things to how you already see them, not the other way around..?

>>25733020
I'll recommend a few personalities that can open up a world of info to you, my good anon. They can explain things much more than a /biz/ post can.

Bix Weir on youtube has legions of videos, some going into technical details, some going full schizo. Very interesting stuff

Arcadia Economics goes into more technical detail and will branch out and interview/chat with lots of experts/veterans in the space.

For full-blown motivation/redpill, TheGreatestTruthNeverTold is my true fave. When it clicks with you what he's saying, you'll realize just how deep this goes and how there's no going back to what once was. Good shit anon.

This was just three. There's literally an overload's worth of people out there to listen to, you have to just start clicking on youtube vids and seeing who jives with you.

TLDR? Too fucking bad. Silver is manipulated as FUCK, and no one really knows how much is left above ground. It is consumed in many of the industrial processes and is unrecoverable, unlike many gold uses.

Real Nigga TLDR?
Silver is the most undervalued asset on the planet.

>>25733217
Apmex had some Austrian, Canadian, Australian and Brit shit last I checked a few days ago.

>>25733294
Thanks for info I wait for stimulus checks.

>>25733232
What?
When I was an undergrad in college, I worked with a nuclear astrophysics group. Just adding to the OP's point about gold (and a lot of other things) are only produced from neutron star collisions.
It's a slow night and I am waiting for the beer I am drinking to put me to sleep.
>>25733020
PMs are wealth preserving. Silver has a tiny speculative component because of a well documented market manipulation from 2008-2020 from JPM after they acquired the silver from Bear Stearns.

Maple fag checking in

>>25733422
sorry i thought you were extending the point to cover universal distribution and its relation to commodity scarcity.
i read way too much into my own projections on what you were saying.
didnt mean to bring you down with dumb, sorry

Should I buy physical gold or silver with my btc profits /biz/?

>>25733610
Yes that what I would do.
Gold and silver to there to preserver your wealth.

>>25733518
Medical silver

>>25733610
Always buy physical and make sure you keep at your house

>>25733637
Longtime pmg lurker recent newfag poster as maple fag with 3 oz gold 1000 oz silver 50k to put into pmg what do biz please help my village

>>25733798
Gold is more stable than silver.So maye buy more gold and maybe a few ounces of platinum. Get some silver bar while you are at it. maybe either the 50OZ bars or 100OZ bars. You pay less premiums on bars.

>>25733798
Sounds like you're doing pretty darn good for your village Bobo.

>>25732842
>sigma tested
>used neodymium
>it fucking looks real compared with my other Pamps
I have come the conclusion that yes, they’re legit

>>25732669
Shit dude, I wasn’t joking about the Texas thing. A $250,000 house there is a $3-4mil one here in Ca, depending on location. That’ll slowly change the more Cali money keeps moving East
Plus, you can buy cool shit that I can’t get (legally, desu), like fireworks and 60 round mags.
From what it sounds like, you could probably do with some fresh air somewhere new

>>25733518
why must gaming laptops use the color red all the time

>>25733798
Anon, did you buy a monster box as your stack starter..?
You’ll be alright, man. Keep stacking, try to keep your Gold to Silver ratio balanced around 1:100. Silver is far more lucrative in terms of potential to gain, but good is good to own no matter what.
Curious, what’s your game plan for when it comes time to sell?

>>25733915
>>25733923
Thx anons bars seem so inconvenient tho I love the coins cause I feel like i can always just peel off a few if needed and if I buy latest year its tougher to fake coins right? the gov minted silver and gold seems way safer to me to buy and bury in the woods

I want to buy some silver. I’m thinking some 2021 ASEs. I also kind of want to get nazi era silver/gold. Anyone have any advice on where/what to get nazi silver/gold?

>>25734320
Very good then. I'm probably just a horrid racist or some such, I see Asian lettering near my metal I get nervous. Oh well.

>>25734670
https://oldsilver.ru/

I have ordered a few nazi coins myself. Still waiting on them

I burnt my finger :(

>>25733518
Maples are neat, well done.

>>25734670
Occasionally gun shows, next to all the other neat WWII junk. Or a reputable ebay seller. There ARE counterfeits floating out there.

>>25734546
Yes 2 monsters as starter and 3 oz gold thinking I should get more gold right?

>>25734723
Have you ordered from them before?
>>25734734
Thanks for the advice, I’ll have to look out for a gun show.

>>25734791
Yes get more gold

>>25734723
LOL I just realized the price per coin haha

Btw I found pic rel at home some days ago, it's 0.5 silver

>>25734817
No but some anons here have ordered from ruskibro

>>25734482
Agreed never really noticed it but blue would be better now that I think of it. Made so much money with that pos laptop but I refuse to upgrade until i start raging because its too slow

>>25734546
When I want to sell i take it to the local buillon exchange and they buy it no?

>>25734729
Thanks big bro I dont really know what else to buy other than junior miners in Canada maybe?

>>25734817
It's run by a fellow anon, he throws freebies with the package but it also takes forever to reach because the Russian postal service has to get it all the way to Moscow before leaving the country
Expect it to take at least a month to show up

What do you guys think about this embargo on certain Chinese companies that begins Monday?

if /pmg/ is forming its own memes is that bearish for metals?

>>25735276
embargo?

>>25735276
minor deal

>>25729960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgXOlcOzI3Q

Silver is bullish in its monetary aspects. Silver also has major industrial use with demand expected to only go up with time ('green' energy is really silver energy).

>>25735276
zero fucks given

>>25735408
Could snowball into something bigger, but then again, with a CCP puppet administration being inaugurated in two weeks, it will probably be quickly reversed.

guys, is gold jewelery a good buy if it's under a price of spot per gram ?

for example 20g 100% gold chain. or is it lower price because its considered "junk" ?

i'm thinking about jewelery and 1 oz minted, or 2 oz minted. what should i get and why
>got plenty silver already

>>25735344
FWTDHWAHQUD status--{laughing at don lemon's drivel because a laugh track played}

Dogecoin would make you a bigger profit than gold and silver in the last few years, think about it.

bros I sold my bitcoin for metals six months ago its gonna rug pull right?

>>25735834
once you’ve made your profits in Dogecoin where do you put your profits? Think about it.

>>25735667
it won't be as liquid as rounds or coins but if the price is under spot then thats great, just beware as a lot of jewellery isnt pure so I would check its not actually 18, 20 carat instead, and that its actually gold lmao

Just got a nice delivery bros.

>muh silver 'dump'

we didnt even go below the 50 day EMA. this is literally nothing. we almost touched the 200 day EMA in late november, but bounced straight back off it to where we are now. If it was going to break, down, it would have done so then. Onwards and upwards lads.

>>25737181
You insult JPM

PM KEKS GOT FUCKKKKKKKKED YESTERDAY!

Gold cup and handle anon, you observed that we broke support roughly during the capitol riot, but as its dumped in the last few days do you think we're back on track or is that it for the formation?

>>25736773
thanks for response, will think about it

it's the current year, don't you people know that gold and silver are worthless since asteroid mining took off in 2020?

>On April 24, 2012 a plan was announced by billionaire entrepreneurs to mine asteroids for their resources. The company is called Planetary Resources and its founders include aerospace entrepreneurs Eric Anderson and Peter Diamandis. Advisers include film director and explorer James Cameron and investors include Google's chief executive Larry Page and its executive chairman Eric Schmidt.[17][46] They also plan to create a fuel depot in space by 2020 by using water from asteroids, splitting it to liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen for rocket fuel. From there, it could be shipped to Earth orbit for refueling commercial satellites or spacecraft.[17]

Hope that's true, still need some time, only 4k in miners. Give me 3 more month and I'm okay with silver mooning.

>>25729293
I am financially ruined

>>25729443
The threads are always shit when there is a huge dump or pump.

>>25738460
I have a suspicion that billionaires and public figures fund things that they know are useless bullshit or fantasies that will never come true. See the celebrities like the Blink 182 guitarist funding UFO research or the financing behind Missing 411/Bigfoot research. The theory is that these people are trying, or are instructed to, captivate the public’s attention and send them down fruitless rabbit holes that are not productive or add value to humanity. Elon Musk is probably the biggest player here. Space tourism and Mars colonies are sci fi fantasies but do nothing to improve the lives of people. There are probably many examples of this throughout history, such as scientific breakthroughs, discoveries, new schools of thought, etc. which sound interesting in theory but are disseminated simply as window dressing to capture attention and divert people away from researching and working towards productive pursuits or tangible wealth. Asteroid mining may one day happen, but as a topic of discussion, it’s meaningless right now, as we all know from studying precious metals and the mining industry. Plenty of potential right here on Earth under the ground. We are being intentionally misled by public figures who espouse these crazy ideas.

>>25729293
This is an actual reply on Peter Schiff’s Twitter

Would it be weird to keep your gold in oil or alcohol?

>>25730984
eh, I don't buy it and I'm balls deep in miners.

They will always find a mathematical way to manipulate shit.

>>25739249

>>25739008

i share your suspicion. point being, take the word of celebrity billionaires with a grain of salt.

>>25739354
this, we will keep slowly declining until social unrest gets to a point where things come to a very ugly head

>>25739379
>Thinking he's going to have gold bars instead of working for mercury dimes

>>25739008
>>25739393
cont.

and generally i consider this a failure of the education system. people spend the first 18 years of their lives learning most of what they know from people who are not their parents. they do not graduate high school with the proper knowledge to navigate the 21st century or defend their own interests.

I wonder how long before all the sound money guys are deemed seditionists and kicked off twitter

https://twitter.com/ahcastor/status/1347897133131730946

>>25739552
cont.

and part of this is that salaries are not high enough to attract talent in high-schools.

we do have good colleges, but despite most universities obsession with racial "diversity", there's not as much diversity of thought as you might hope.

>>25739249
>Asteroids

>>25740205
The asteroid could literally have a neat stack of london good delivery bars on pallets and it will still be more cost effective to mine it on earth.

This a stupid question but I need to ask it. When the investment community talks about “base metals”, “battery metals” and “precious metals” to what metals are they referring to?

Precious metals are gold, silver, platinum and palladium, right?
But what metals are the “base metals” and the “battery metals”?

>japanese are laughing at america
>https://twitter.com/RIOCCHl/status/1345078273294757888
Feelsgood to be from Eurocuck sometimes.

>>25740439
Lithium, cobalt, at least.

>>25740463
What the fuck? context?

>>25740439
>base metals
Based on what?

>>25740463
Is that Hunter fucking Biden?

>>25740579
They're mocking the fact you guys are going to be ruled by PedoBiden's family.

>>25733798
>>25733915
Or you can take advantage of silvers volatility, buy more silver, monitor the Gold:Silver ratio, and double your stack every 5 years tax-free with no risk by trading half your silver to gold and back whenever it reaches a local minimum/maximum.

>>25740463
uh CP on twitter what the fuck

Hello, anons.

I am about to make my first precious metals purchase ever.

x4 1oz. Silver bars from https://monumentmetals.com/ , to get free shipping
:
Highland Mint (HM) 1 Oz Walking Liberty Silver Bar (Sealed)

Only $2 over spot price! ( I assume spot price means market rate )

I am choosing sealed because I want pristine silver bars never touched by human hands. Do (sealed) bars guarantee this?

I see that some bars on some of these sites can be secondary market.

What are the opinions of silver bought secondary market?

Also, I always wanted a tiny burlap sack of 60%/90% silver coinage, as a jest. Is this a wise investment, or will I never be able to find a buyer..?

I am calling my bank and the customer service to get the wire transfer transaction, to get the tiny discount as well.

Also, obligatory "Is this a good time to buy?"

Are there any other considerations I should make?

Cheers,

-31 year old boomer

>>25739444
Checked.
And we know what his job is gonna be about

I have around $5k in various pm miner stocks. Is it worth it for a long play or will prices drop to shit over the next three years?

Q: do you invest in precious metals anon?

Me: pic related

If your precious metals can’t shoot precious metal’d encased lead, it’s not very precious

Play https://www.rainymood.com/
and https://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k together while drinking coffee and twirling you're two favorite coins together while searching for your next purchase for max /pmg/ comfiness

>>25741053

i'd probably just get fine silver 1oz coins instead of 1oz bars. they tend to be similar in price.

SPACE. LE FINAL FRONTIER. IN THE FUTURE WE'LL GET EVERYTHING FROM SPACE AND SEND EVERYONE INTO SPACE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH SPACE. WE'LL HAVE BITCOIN SATELLITES IN SPACE.

>>25730793
based electrican poster

https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/don-t-dismiss-gold-and-silver
A good read for physical bros.

>>25729823
Prep the BHLL shill here, the market is completely disconnected with reality right now because it represents a large portion of our inflation.
I bot a bunch of UXVY thinking the market would head shake and almost pulled the trigger on a few coins wendsday, glad I bot the coins last night....still holding my UVXY doh, down 10% atm.

When the prices were dumping hard yesterday I checked on my stack just to see how it was doing - yep, still at the bottom of the ocean.

>>25739444
absolutely checked and based

>>25740439
Battery metals dont exist

Im fucking DEAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIX6CZQ6Euk

>>25741736
>c u t e posting
yellow fever intensifies

>>25730793
Copper is no joke.
Last March I shuttered 1 of the big 3 sheet metal companies in my state. I liquidated all the materials at or just under cost. I had 2 tons of architectural copper sheet (8oz/16oz/32oz 3'x10' sheets)...i refused to sell it to my former competition. I ended up offering it @ spot price 3rd week of March 2020 to one of my hands I came up under, I wanna say he paid about $2100 and I threw in a .375 4'x12' of 6061 al.

That copper at scrap value (he would never scrap it) he could get 2500 rn. For me to order that sheet count at today's prices, 6k minimum.

Did you fags enjoy peter schiff dumping his bags on you on Friday??

>>25742096
What makes me uncomfortable about the protests is the number of people who are absolutely brainwashed by this shit. She's a retard, the vast majority of people at BLM protests are retards, and the vast majority of voter fraud believers are retards.

Once the dollar goes byebye, what value is there in gold?
Id rather collect water or property or something as a future hedge

>>25742640
The dollar wont disappear in our lifetime probably. It's way too integrated inside and outside of the US. We may see inflation or hyperinflation which would me that even though gold is measured in a dollar that's worth less it's retained its purchasing power see: Venezuela.

>>25741053
>( I assume spot price means market rate )
Spot is just the base price of the material. If spot is 25/oz and you pay $26 for one oz, you spent a $1 premium.

>I am choosing sealed because I want pristine silver bars never touched by human hands. Do (sealed) bars guarantee this?
In theory yes, but no one can say for certain for each mint's manufacturing process in detail.

>What are the opinions of silver bought secondary market?
Secondary Market just is a way of the seller saying 'hey we're gonna just throw some random bars or whatever we have in stock in your order'

>Also, I always wanted a tiny burlap sack of 60%/90% silver coinage, as a jest. Is this a wise investment, or will I never be able to find a buyer..?
Junk silver is a very common and often wiser investment. 90% American quarters, dime, dollars, and half-dollars are widely available, usually incur smaller premiums, and very easy to sell.

>I am calling my bank and the customer service to get the wire transfer transaction, to get the tiny discount as well.
For MM you should be able to do an 'E-Check' option. Essentially all you do is enter information found at the bottom of your checks and you'll get the discount.

>Also, obligatory "Is this a good time to buy?"
Who's to say? We just saw a dip off of roughly $27.50 spot while approaching a government that seems hell bent on spending more and increasing the debt so I'd say maybe?

>Are there any other considerations I should make?
I usually don't prefer to buy bars/rounds because with those you're never going to get much above spot if you ever need to liquidate them. Coins hold their value in metal alone, and there's potential for numismatic gains at relatively lower premiums. Try to get American Silver Eagles, or other government minted coins without going crazy for $10 premiums. That's just me, but I like to balance my PM purchases with potential numismatic gains.

>>25730904
How do I go about getting blow jobs when that happens? Do I just knock on my neighbors door and jingle a bag of mercs around when things start getting tense?

>>25741284
They're not mutually exclusive you mong.

>>25730984
They will just outlaw ownership of bullion or strongly discourage it through absurd taxes/ red tape.

Goldbros why is bitcoin doing so much better than gold? Why? It's based on nothing. Not backed by anything. Schiff said it was a bad investment, why did he lie to me like that??

>>25742640
THIS! The dollar HAS to collapse any day now, or I have wasted years holding gold for nothing. The stock market is A SCAM!

>>25742940
Bitfinex/tether.

>>25742753

Great insight. Thanks so much!

>>25741284
Whats the gun situation in USA? Everything nice sold out in leafland

>>25742940
The derivative market is fake. Get more physical

>>25743428
There's still stuff in stock in my area, but prices are like 30-50% higher than a year ago.

I'm 90% in mining stocks, what the hell should I do when it comes time to sell? Sure buy gold/silver but I doubt there'll be any available, supplies are limited now and it hasn't even skyrocketed.

>>25743591
The gucci black rifles around here are gone but yea ammo is 50% higher

>>25742640
Gold and (to a bit of a lesser degree) silver have, throughout human history on every continent and in damn near every single civilization, been seen as actual money. It is the universal currency. If you're gonna ask me what intrinsic value it has, the answer, like anything, is that it doesn't. The only thing it has is history behind it. Rome acknowledged its value as currency, as did Egypt. In America it literally was money until only 60 years ago, in which its value relative to the dollar has only increased.

In 1921, dollars were made of silver. In 2021, that exact silver dollar is worth $20 off melt value alone. In 1921 to 2021 inflation rates, one US Dollar is now $14. If in 1921 you had $5k and kept it all in actual silver dollars, that money would have beaten out inflation by a large ratio simply by existing.

Is there a guarantee that something will or will not be worth X or Y in a hypothetical scenario? Of course not. Nothing is guaranteed ever. But history is clearly on one side over the other.

Morning all, having coffee before going back down the hole, anything interesting happening this morning?

>>25743428
ammo is the main thing in shortage rn

>>25743612

The mining companies will pay you gold and silver in dividends, you won't have to sell. Even Bayhorse has talked about doing it.

Currently stuck in Liberal west coast of BC working in film. anyone got any good recommendations to escape once the socialism starts coming?

>>25743901
You could move further north to Terrace or Smithers BC and work in video production up there mate. Lots of work for you up there.

>>25730103
jews last names are silverstein or goldstein.

happy saturday

I got the next bread.

>>25743849
God damn that sounds based, can't find a source but I guess that just makes sense, nobody in this business wants share buybacks.

>>25744179
animal

>>25744387

From a June nr:

"With cash flow, after recovering our capital expenditures, we will probably start paying dividends, and possibly look at share buybacks .."

A few months later:

"DORE DIVIDENDS? Sure, why not.

$BHS did a "PP WARRANT IN PHYSICAL SILVER"? Pretty epic. Also, they used EXISTING SHAREHOLDER EXEMPTION. That is best practices in Canadian jr mining finance today, @porc? I say so.

https://ceo.ca/@newsfile/bayhorse-amends-terms-of-7500000-unit-non-brokered
@newsfile/bayhorse-amends-terms-of-7500000-unit-non-brokered

"The Silver Option may only be exercised after the Company successfully mines and processes silver from the Bayhorse property prior to the maturity date of the Warrants, provided that the Company, at its sole discretion, delivers written notice to each Warrant holder that they shall have the right to receive payment in kind by delivery of physical ounces of silver; and
The exercise of the Silver Option is subject to a minimum of five thousand (5,000) Warrants (25 ounces of silver)
In addition to any other exemption available to the Company, participation in the non-brokered financing is also open to all existing shareholders, even if not accredited investors, under the "existing shareholder" exemption of National Instrument 45-106 as promulgated in Multilateral CSA notice 45-313 in participating jurisdictions."

>>25744477
How many other companies are doing this?

>>25744387

Also, Keith Neumeyer of First Majestic has talked about this in interviews, and Resolute Mining has already done it.

>>25744587

Resolute Mining was a pioneer, I'm sure that more will follow when the bull market gets going:

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/australias-resolute-mining-to-pay-its-dividends-in-gold.html

"Is cash still king? Investors in a junior Australian miner may soon have to decide.

The ASX-listed Resolute Mining said shareholders who hold 5,000 or more Resolute shares can opt to receive their dividend payment in gold through a personal account held with the government guaranteed Perth Mint.

Resolute’s managing director and CEO, John Welborn, said in a statement the company’s strong performance allowed for the adoption of the unique dividend policy.

“Resolute’s new gold sales-linked dividend policy rewards our shareholders by providing a sustainable income stream that allows direct participation in our ongoing production success,” said Welborn.

Resolute, which operates gold mines in Australia and Africa, announced on Tuesday it will pay a final dividend of 1.7 Australian cents (1.28 cents) per share for fiscal 2016.

It will pay out a total of A$11.1 million in dividends, which amounts to 2 percent of the gold miner’s fiscal 2016 gold sales revenue of A$555 million. As of June 30, 2016, Resolute had A$102 million in cash and bullion.

Shareholders can still choose to receive their dividend in cash if they choose to. Resolute’s move also comes at a time global interest rates have fallen sharply and bond yields have plunged, reducing the opportunity cost of holding gold, which doesn’t offer a yield."

>>25733294
extremely jewish premiums

Approximately how much would it cost to buy a small chest worth of silver coins to run my hands through? Like maybe only a few cubic feet.

anon if you read this please give me a closeup pic of the back of the coin
>>25743428
Ha! I knew those fags on /k/ were just lying to try and make us jealous

>>25744778
That coin looks soooo good.

/smg/ here, what is the best junior silver miner in your opinion?

>>25741289
> jazz and rainymood
I see you're man of culture as well

>>25744868

I don't know a single person here who doesn't like Dolly Varden, so that's a good place to start. Most juniors aren't on the NYSE however so you might have to go with something like Alexco instead.

i cant decide if i want to buy an ounce of gold and a kilo of silver or more gold/silver miners on monday

what ratio do you guys have when it comes to physcal / miners ?

>>25744981

Miners are still the most undervalued asset-class in the world. Even if gold or silver never went a dollar higher, most of them should double or triple to achieve fair value.

>>25745072
Silver is the most undervalued physical asset while miners are one of the most undervalued stocks.

>>25739444
the future is ours, and it is good.

>>25744477
Brainlet question, how do you buy a warrent instead of a share or are they the same thing?

New bread

>>25745216
>>25745216
>>25745216

>>25745072
they only problem that i see with miners is that if gold/silver goes down miners do tank a lot but other than that you are right they are really undervalued and have a lot of upside potential

on the other hand physical feels a lot better than having mining stocks but i think i am going with more mining stocks