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>>25683286
Been using blockchain.com so far.

>>25683286
>load ze wallet fud
https://vocaroo.com/1bln2IPmnApJ

Exodus. It gets steady updates and improvements. Nice multi currency wallet.

Electrum with ledger nano s and multisig

>>25683349
I like Exodus but it’s really dumbed down compared t Electrum. For example they make it really hard to adjust fees. Once you get used to the quirks it’s a nice wallet

OK, thanks. I'll look into Electrum and Exodus some more.

Metamask wbtc

>>25683339
are the real bogs really in jail now?

>>25683286
The coup failed, do we really need to keep investing in cryptocurrency?

>>25683286
paper wallets that I import to blockchain.info when I want to send them to the exchange then I never send anything that address again. All addresses generated totally offline. I don't trust computers, don't like keeping my SKs on them for more than a short time

>>25683286
I keep my entire net worth on a chrome extension

>>25684092
How do you do this?
Is there a tutorial somewhere??
Thank you.
I'd like to keep some paper wallets long/superlong term.

binance
so its always ready to go
inb4 funds are safu

>>25684998
Get yourself a ledger or a trezor don't be a senile boomer dude

>>25683286
most important is to pair with your own node so that you don't leak your addresses to electrum servers

you can either run your own electrum personal server to link to your node, but it's even easier to just use specter wallet which automatically pairs

if you are interested in more privacy, consider coinjoin on your android phone with samurai wallet before sending to cold storage

>>25685465
I want paper for when i AM senile. Why do some people have multiple trezors?

>>25684998
NO don't use any paper wallets there is at least a 50% chance you will fuck up completely when you need to spend from it. paper wallets were a shit idea back in 2012 they should no longer exist

usecoldcard.com

>>25685465
>ledger
No just trezor model t

>>25685550
well i have one wallet left from a btc ATM. i had another but bitcoin.com wallet took like 45% of the fucking satoshis for fees or somethin which was in 2020. i sent paper to bitcoin.com in 2018 and there was zero satoshis subtracted. wtf???? i'm not using bitcoin.com wallet again. What should I do with my final paper wallet, anon?

>>25685550
Isn't a paper wallet simply a public and private key? How is that different from any other wallet? Those are the only two bits of data you need in order to hold bitcoin.

>>25685501
I don't own enough BTC to justify a node - I have like a bit more than a $1000 in BTC which I bought in 2017. Wasn't worth much until now, so I didn't think about it too much, but now that it's worth something, I'm thinking - I wouldn't keep a $1000 on some random website that offers stupidly large interest rates. So I'm just looking for a bit safer solution than keeping it on blockchain.com, but it isn't something that's worth investing in too much (like owning a Trezor/Ledger or like owning hardware specifically for a node).

>>25685691
yeah Roger deliberately pushes up the fees on his wallet just to push bitcoin cash on people

import your paper wallet into electrum and sweep the entire balance to your new hardware wallet.

the reason paper sucks is because a lot of times it will fuck up and not generate your change addresses at all, or you might end up swapping the payment and fee by accident, etc. you want to do it properly on a hardware device

stay away from shitcoins and go bitcoin only with a cold card. they are the absolute best hardware wallet you can buy period but they are bitcoin only

atomic wallet is excellent. multi coin support, in wallet exchange, highly active support

>>25685771
any amount of bitcoin justifies a node, it's just software you download and run on your computer for free, you can prune it down too.

using a node is the entire point of a blockchain. the purpose is to use bitcoin without trusting any third parties at all. this is what is unique about this asset.

if you aren't using your own node, your are still using a node. your are just using someone else's and leaking privacy information

>>25685876
oh and in wallet staking plus rewards for using their exchange

is anyone using BlockFI?
i am thinking of maybe moving it there so I can get interest.

>>25685759
exactly, a lot of them are just a single address. so let's say you spend half of it... well where does the other half go? do you know enough to make the change go back to the original address? what if your wallet generates a change address for you and send it somewhere else? do you know how to recover that change later?

a hardware wallet will give you a mnemonic seed instead which handles all the change addresses and keeps your shit organized. you have no risk of accidently losing money

if you have a paper wallet your should sweep the ENTIRE balance into a wallet with a mnemonic seed

>>25683286

Coinomi

>>25685883
Yeah, I know, but 350GB man... I work only on a laptop that doesn't have that much free space, so I would need to buy additional stuff just to store a node.

I get that I'm being spoiled about this though, it's just that I don't feel I own enough to justify the investment. But in case BTC keeps running up, I'll definitely give this a thought.

is trust wallet safe?

>>25685940
If you spend half of it, you still have half in your original wallet. Why would my wallet generate a change address and send my bitcoin away?

>>25685940
Antonopolous talks about this on his youtube. idk though.

>>25685996
yeah i don't think i've ever seen change be sent to a different add

>>25685971
there is literally no investment .... you can prune it to 5gb and send to cold storage and you're done. but it's cool, the main thing is just use a hardware wallet. running a node is just extra

>>25685926
All of these interest thingies seem to me like they could be a scam. For example, celsius has >10% interest rate for people who loan the money, and 1% interest rate for people who borrow it. How does that work without it being a ponzi-scheme? BlockFi could be different, I didn't look into it too much.

>>25683349
Seems too risky if you're storing big amounts, something like a trezor or ledger (post db-leak) seems better

a non custodial hot wallet on mobile is actually pretty secure and good for small amounts. I use BRD and like it. if you have big $$ you should always go cold. as soon as you buy, if you plan to hodl, transfer off the exchange. don't do blockfi, not your keys, not your coins.

>>25685996
>>25686013
any decent wallet will send the change to a new address in the wallet, because reusing an address for more than one transaction is insecure

>>25686020
I'll read some about pruning it then, I wasn't aware you can get it to such a small size. Thanks for the help

>>25683286
>Wallet? You mean the exchange?

>>25686059
make sure the code is open source and reproducible btw. the official bitcoin site has a good wallet picker tool you can use

>>25686047
Why too risky? Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>25685996
you will have 1 single utxo on your paper wallet. when you spend half the amount, the way bitcoin works is it has to spend the whole thing and then send the change somewhere. you can't just spend only half

so whatever software you manually import this paper wallet into, you would need to make sure you are sending the change back to the original address. tricky. some software will just make a new address for you because it's bad practice to reuse addresses. but now your other half is not stored on the paper wallet address anymore

paper wallets with a single private key are an ancient idea from like 2011. we have moved way way past this. you need a mnemonic seed with 24 words. you can store that wherever you want and use a hardware wallet for sending transactions

>>25683286
Electrum if you go software, Trezor if you go hardware.
Don't listen to these faggots recommending Exodus, they sell your data to third parties.

>>25686129
what if all these things aren't around in 10-20 years and these wallets and trezors aren't updated or the device doesn't work anymore ....won't laminated paper wallets in a safe stand the test of time??

Ledger

Imagine not using ledger or trezor

>>25686216
>Trusting (((them))) with your crypto.
ngmi.

>>25686215
Same

>>25686205
You can literally create keys from the seed phrase by hand. It might take an hour or two but it's no rocket surgery, just a bit of math.

So it's way more likely that your safe is buried by an earthquake or the paper burns than that seed-phrase based wallets will disappear.

>all these ledger boomer wanting to get hacked again

trust wallet any good?

>>25686129
bro what the fuck are you talking about?
why the fuck would you change your address every time and who the fuck cares? if it's privacy you're after use monero instead you dumb fuck.

>>25686216
>imagine thinking a device manufactured by a third party is safer than a wallet used on an airgapped PC
ngmi

>>25686404
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse
It's not just about privacy.

>>25686205
for shit-tier humans with shit-tier brains, perhaps that's a good method.
I'm autistic so I've literally just remembered 6 different seed phrases (The monero one is 25 words so I had to turn that one into a song).
It honestly baffles me when I see these threads and people are panicking about the best way to store their seed phrases.
Just use your brain. Brain wallet is best.

>>25686075
I've never heard of that. I have a public key that i've used for multiple transactions since 2016.

>>25686508
Wow thanks anon. I didnt know this. I used a single Adress all the time. Never spent btc so far though. I will change that now.

Wtf are you guys on about. Can’t you just create a wallet on a fresh OS install, send your btc to the wallet and write down the key phrases, wipe the OS and restore the wallet on any wallet software in the future? I haven’t done it so I might be wrong, but I always thought it was this simple.

>>25686508
>>25686129
Very interesting. So with the mnemonic phrase you can reestablish your wallet anywhere?

paymint wallet on Android is literally the most underrated wallet

> based chart in app
> based utxo controls
> based dev
> based export transaction data to CSV file

theres no reason to not use electrum assuming you would have passed the iq test a year or two earlier

>>25686535
nice. What are a bunch of places to spend BTC?
i don't want to make it into dollars bc of cap gain tax or w.e else there is.
So far I got lambo of miami, reed jeep of overland park, reed jewelers, egifter, cryptoemporium.eu, overstock.com
Also, do you have any real estate places who accept it?? ..Land and/or homes.
My main plan is to buy a fuckton of home depot gift cards and buy lawn mowers and sell them for cash and buy back in at the $100,000 low point or w.e low point in a few years. Thanks, anons.

Binance
FUNDS ARE SAFU

>>25686941
as long as it follows BIP39 and BIP32 yeah

>>25683286
I use Ledger and get daily calls from scammers and people threatening to kill my family if I don't give them my recovery words. Thanks, Ledger.

Bought a Trezor yesterday with my real name and address, how fucked am I? Surely they can't be as incompetent as Ledger, right?

>>25687409
Are they pajeets?

>>25687505
Some even in my language (polish)

>>25687441
probably fine. trezor operate with a lot more transparency than ledger

>Using bitcoing
ngmi

>>25686934

>>25683286
mycelium for read only track

>>25685550
thats retarded you can swipe paper wallets straight to an exchange or import into any phone app basically

>>25687514
Just say that they eat nigger shit out of their mom's asshole and hang up kek. They're not gonna do anything to you.

>>25685550
i use paper wallets often, never had a problem accessing funds thereafter

>>25683286
>Electrum
I use electrum
It’s really easy to set up

>>25687409
How the fuck did they get your information?

>>25685759
private key or spend code contains the pubkey really which generates the address thats all you really need

>>25687719
ledger retained all of your personal data entered during the checkout phase and that entire database was leaked

I use Green by Blockstream, its great

For small amount Bento: gobento.app

>>25686128
>>25683349
Had my exodus wallet emptied by a hacker in 2018. Looked it up to find out what might have happened and it's really common. Apparently they had a some "feature" where your email account could restore your wallet. Fuck those retards. Exodus is a good wallet for a lazy poor person holding insignificant amounts of multiple coins (seriously if that's you you should use it, it's nice). Wish I never touched it though. Only went looking for that wallet during this run and now it hurts every time BTC takes another leg up.

>>25684043
>The coup failed
It's succeeding so far, retard. Fake media has passed off the fake votes and now Trump is banned from all his social media accounts aside from one twitter account that is now posting deep fakes of "Trump" spouting deep state rhetoric. The coup is almost complete.

Also bitcoin is a useless surveillance coin with only enough blockspace for centralized services. Monero is the only serious cryptocurrency and it has been getting smashed lately, as these great reset psychopaths continue to rack up the wins.

What do you think of Coinbase?
Everyone is talking shit about it, should i pay the fees to transfer everything to a other wallet?

>>25688092
rofl

>>25688092
>>25688664
i mean its sad but that idiocy of that restore by email function i bet they basically have your keys stored wtf

>>25688390
The past 4 years were actually deepfaked entirely, and Trump has been golfing peacefully the entire time without appearing in public

>>25688723
>thinking this "trump" person ever existed

>>25687670
Sure, that's easy to say, but hearing actual people telling you your exact address and saying they're watching you and will torture your family is not a nice experience you know

>>25688440
I trust Gemini alot more than Coinbase. The Dingleberry Twins are alright.

>>25688787
>thinking anyone exists

I use Waves wallet it is old as BTC

>>25688092
>>25683349
>using closed source honeypot garbage

>>25688440
Online exchanges are not wallets. They can take your coins or freeze the accounts any time they want. If the government tells them to do it won't even hurt their business

>>25688699
Yeah I think they got rid of it now but that level of retardation disqualifies them forever. And yeah could have easily been an inside job too.

>>25688723
Fuck off, nigger.

>>25683286
I use Exodus, as a poorfag I'm not that worried.

>>25687409
>doesn't screen their calls

>>25683620
dont, you can't have customized fees with exodus

>>25683286
why not just get the mist wallet