/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25663485
Yes.

>>25663526
i'm thinking it will be atleast $1M so i can retire and pursue art and music

BTC will always be a solid hold.

ETH and LINK will eventually be replaced by some better utility token and LINK by some better oracle (I have a finger on API3, but can't say before the DAO is complete.). No idea when this happens but definitely not viable for a 10 year hold

>>25663622
>art and music
Literally the most generic fucking answer in the world for someone who has made it. Dude if you're not pursuing art and music RIGHT NOW when you're broke, you're not gonna do it rich. Do you think all those bands you like listening to wrote their BEST albums when they were rich or broke and hungry

>>25663720
Good point but OP will ignore it

>>25663697
Eth replaced ? Kek

>>25663806
> $50 gas is viable

>>25663485
BTC, LTC, XMR, LINK, and RSR.

>>25663848
Spotted the poorfag

BTC, ETH, LTC, XMR, LINK, PNK. Forget literally everything else if you just want to wake up wealthy in 10 years.

>>25663848
It won’t always be $50

>>25663485
This one

>>25663780
I've never heard anyone say "Oh I think I might learn how to build stuff out of wood." or "I think I want to learn how to code and make my own video game." It's always the same boring answer: make music.
Let me tell you, if you wanna make music, by a 2x2 scarlett interface, a shure microphone and download ANY free digital audio workstation. BOOM, you can make music. I can write a beat in literally 2 minutes with the pre-samples. This shit could not be easier to get started with. People think because they're rich they're gonna sit in a studio and create greatness. It's utter hilarity. I bet OP doesn't even have a soundcloud of stuff he's currently recording or even trying to put together. It would cost maybe $300 in used equipment on Reverb. OP, I say this to you because you're not suddenly going to become a self actualized musician with money. You're putting it off right now and using the money as an excuse WHY you're putting it off.

>>25663720
FUCKING BASED

>>25663720
but i've already been practicing daily for the past year
>2 hours of art creation
>2 hours of piano practice

>>25663720
>>25663953
This is the voice is experience and truth.
If you're not following your dreams right now, money won't help you.
It's okay to make it and do fuck all with it. You weren't doing anything anyway, why change the habit of a lifetime? Spoiler: You won't.

Nice stack OP. I am sitting on this until I can not worry about money.

>>25663622
Literally all the equipment you need right here. This is what's holding you back from your dream. Think about that for a second. (Beef jerky sticks NOT included. Get your own beef jerky)

>>25663953
to be more specific i'm practicing 3d design and classical piano but I do understand the idea of pursing your passion but it would be nice if I didn't have to worry about money

>>25664081
The symmetry of that stack makes me hard

>>25664221
Forgot file.
>>25664009
Start recording the piano stuff. Make music out of it. Practice doesn't mean shit. Half these people making beats cant even read music. Half these singers just show up and sing. Famous guitar riffs are like 3 chords and a catchy pentatonic riff.
Just start recording your piano shit and put cool art to it. START DOING SOMETHING. I say this as someone who sold my creativity. I dont even really like writing short stories and shit anymore. I just write about stocks for a newsletter now. I'm not joking. I've only just recently thought about getting into kids books because thats where the REAL money is. I'm just trying to get better at drawing cause fuck splitting the profits with an illustrator.

>>25663720
I want to make video games, but only as a hobby because I know it's impossible to make money anymore in indie games. I can't have a job and do that at the same time, because it's such a time consuming hobby.

>>25664728
Sounds like you are a hobbyist like me. I have like 20 fucking things I'm interested in bro. I am the classic jack of all trades, master of nothing. The only thing I'm slightly good at is writing and editing peoples writing. it's been my career for 10 years. On here I just bullshit, but I can actually put together a well researched and thought out argument. I honestly dont know what I will do if I make it. I think having a family, growing my small amount of vegetables and just working on my house is INFINITELY more rewarding than a lot of hobbies. It's really weird. I think I'm becoming a boomer. That's why I'm trying to get back to a little bit of creativity. I enjoy the simplicity of kids books. Nobody fucking reads novels anymore. But parents will ALWAYS read to their kid. Its a market that kinda always remains, despite books being a lost art.

>>25663848
>fees bad my chain with 0 usage cheap fees
Newfag

>>25663485
LINK will be $1000 end of decade so you'll have a milly anon

>>25663937
Shill Matic to me

I'm interestted

>>25663937
Why Bitcoin Cash ?

My 5 year take

>>25663485
IOTA is the best long-term hold out there. Trust me.

>>25665588
Honestly, respectable.

How many years to reach 10 million? :(

>>25665175
Same. I bought 1000 XLM when it was $0.035 I'd like to find something similar to put some real money into and hold for a few years.

>>25663697
Kek quit larping

>>25663937
fuk i live 0.03 coins gotta go read about those
>>25665815
Oh yea? U thinking yay or nay? Iron hands.

>>25666107
>love

>>25665588
Checked, what’s your LCX price target anon? My hands feel weak

>>25666107
I say you keep holding man. i'm at 50k right now and ask yourself this - which I ask myself daily - If you sell everything now is this money going to change your life? For me, 50k after taxes is gonna be like 37k or 39k. That is NOT going to take a chunk out of mortgage or set me up for years to come. It will pad my life for a few months. For you, I'd likely guess the same. I'm holding strong till six figures, then taking some profits, then letting the rest ride. Just like I did with Chainlink. All my LINK is literally house money. I recouped my entire intial investment.

>>25663485
Almost exactly what i have, we will make it

>>25666161
Im actually still charting out if i take my profits on lcx back.. and when. I feel very strongly about this project and learned the hardest part for me is no selling at x5, x10x.

>>25666270
What coins u got? Im learning new job and will be in training for year or two, just bought 3k shitbox car.. that was fukin hard, not getting at least 10k ride.. i want something ridiculous like cybertruck if i make it

>>25663485
this is my dream portfolio

>>25664274
Because it’s not real

>>25665934
0.2

>>25663485
Very good long term portfolio
Begin accumulating XRP slowly or DOT

>>25663720
Most of the neets here are already pursuing art and have been for years. It's just that making honest art and making honest money usually aren't compatible qualities so we need something to put food on the table. I've had much more success trading crypto for the last 2 years than I ever had making art for the last 8 years (not that I make art for monetary gains).

>>25663720
Uh...r-rich? R-right????

>>25666529
I just traded in my Porsche Cayenne for a 4Runner. Before that I had an infiniti Q60. So like.... Try hard wealth cars. Wasn't for me. People treat you different. I love the 4Runner. And I used the extra money from the sale of the vehicle to invest. I hold 1BTC, 250LINK, 2 ETH, 1000 xlm, 1000 GRT, and whatever I can get air dropped. I also just blew my wad on buying my first house in the area I want to live in so I'm broke as fuck until next month when bonus time comes. Crypto is now like... 25% of my net worth lmao.

>>25663485
Can't really complain about that anon. I'd add a bag of API3 just to round it off though.

>>25668019
Thats very nice, those are my hitpoints. When i get my first house and have small stack on the side im blowing money on some sweet shit

I just wanna wake up every day for the rest of my life with all my shit paid for so I can drink and play vidya.

>>25663485
Missing grt

>>25663485
No EVE you won't make it.

>>25668517
Do it, I highly recommend doing it because you need to get it out of your system. People who dont indulge eventually burn out or go ALL OUT when they finally do. And then they cant stop spending because they have years of repressed desires and buying stuff nowadays takes 1 click. My advice to you, if you dont mind, when you splurge, buy something that MIGHT actually accumulate in value. Like say you're looking at Omega and Rolex. Buy the Rolex, it's gonna hold value so well. Or classic cars, you get a desirable car thats easy to resell like a c2 corvette or c3. Not the 65 ford falcon that someone dropped a hemi in. Treat yourself to an American Gold Eagle every now and then. or a nice painting in your home. I have 3 pieces that I could sell to a museum nearby that I just got lucky and bought at a local auction.

>>25663622
If you dont enjoy art and music enough to be doing it now, you won’t bother when your rich either. You’ll still just sit around and vidya

>>25663848
> Doesn't know about ETH 2.0
lol

Pretty solid OP. I'd add some ADA, it's very cheap compared to the potential. Like, actual potential based on fundamentals, not pushing you a random shitcoin. You seem already pretty well covered. I'd advise you to keep a close eye on how miners are doing with BTC about 5 to 10 years from now, they will decide if the project floats or sinks, PoW is not viable long term imo.

>>25663622
1M is not even close to getting you all the musical apparel and a comfy life

>>25663953
>"Oh I think I might learn how to build stuff out of wood." or "I think I want to learn how to code and make my own video game."
Hey, I did the second and want to start on the first. It's just not something people talk about because for some reason when you announce any of these things that are both somewhat difficult and require investing a bunch of gains goblins try to take you down so they feel better about being useless. I guess just nobody thinks making music/art is worth anything as to put you down.

>>25670682
music and art are worth plenty but literally EVERYONE does it now. It's not like the old days when old Joe picked the meanest guitar you ever heard down the street. Or you were the guy in the village who could play the piano. What I'm saying, everyone is a hobbyist now. What are you doing that REALLY stands out and commands a value any greater than the guy on gum road or etsy? We live in a world drowning in creativity. You're making art and music just like millions of other people and the price for that commodity is low for the same reason.

>long term
>no ADA
not gonna make it

>>25663937
clearpill me on GRT

>>25663485
move it all to BTC

>>25664728
how much do you want it? Currently working as a full-time musician at the moment and wouldn't do anything else, despite the knowledge that I'm going to be broke most of my life without crypto gains. If you can justify not pursuing your passion because it won't make you money that's fair and I respect it, but I couldn't do it man

>>25664842
Another joat here. I've given up my dreams of being recognised for music, but it doesn't mean I'll stop making it for my own enjoyment. Post crypto moon I'll just keep pottering around, growing plants, raising my kids and pursuing things that interest me.

>>25663485
What app is that?

>>25663720
this, if I had the money I'd build a huge workshop and build robots. Art is for gays

>>25671862
This, also musician, not gigging anywhere soon. What do you play? Where you located? And what's your take on BTC after the Tether FUD is real?

>>25671867
Exactly, dont get me wrong, I will keep playing my guitars. They're hanging on my wall right now. i will still keep writing riffs in my free time for my own personal enjoyment. But to think I'm going to realize my teenage boyhood dreams of being a rock band because I have money to record... that's just silly. Currently my last real "dream" that I think is accomplishable and not influenced by media (rockstar, movie star, etc) is writing a book. i dont give a fuck what kind of book. I write approximately 60,000 words a year for my job currently so the fact I have not written a book, despite having so many ideas is my "sin" of wasting my life. But I really am getting serious about buckling down with it this year. I don't even wanna make it from the sales of the book. I just wanna be able to go on Amazon and show my friends and family "yeah I got a book on there, kinda cool!" Being a jack of all trades is fun because you can jump right in with other people, but it kinda fucking sucks because you see people who just laser focused on one thing like autist and they're damn good at it. I dunno, grass is greener, right my brother?

>>25670953
Creativity today is imitation and replication. True art exists and is waiting to be made. If not by us in the foreseeable future, then from AI and machines.

>>25665175
>>25665992
It's ETH just better IMO. Already has working sidechains/sharding and they built Eth's Dagger service. Scales without being fucked by fees, and is already on BinanceUS and Coinbase custody so its cleared state and federal regulatory bullshit.

>>25664081
Very nice, I’ve got a very similar stack. Wgmi

>>25664081
Really nice stack, respect

>>25663485
richlet here, how the fuck do i even reach 10k? I was told to read this, but what else do i do? Should i also look into stocks, rocks, and boxes?
I dont wanna be a goddamn wagie anymore, fucks sake

>>25671920
everything is art, are you gonna say robot designing and circuit crafting isnt art?
>>25663720
>>25663622
this, that's not something that relies on money, but on time and experience
if you didnt start yet, it might be too late already

>>25670457
mindblown.jpg

>>25663485
yep, that's the one.

>>25664244
good for you anon, hope it works out for you

How are my percentages?

>>25670457
Making art is a really frustrating process and when you're all phazed out because of daily life, hardly you have the strength to pour your feelings and thoughts into a piece of art.
Forcing yourself to play an instrument or draw or pursue arts is a mentally tasking decision since 90% of the time you think that what you're doing is complete shit. 9% of the time you think you actually have something great and the next day you look at it and realize it's also shit. You have to grind hard to reach that 1% where you're actually satisfied of your work.

It's extremely shitty but it's also beautiful in the long run. Having financial security would take that burden out and make you focus on art much better.

>>25663485
Correct. Iron hands my friend

T. Longtime lurker