/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25508636
How do I convince my gf to dress like this slut?

>>25508664
Pay her an [unknown amount] of Monero.

Sup chads we might be in an uptrend, will probably be confirmed in the next 2-3 days.

Patience.

>>25508753
I gave mine a small amount to start her DCA adventure

>>25508967

Based and Moneropilled.

>>25508753
So she'll have an [unknown amount] of losses since this shit keeps crashing

>>25509031
thanks fellow chad

>>25509081

You only lose if you sell now. XMR has great long-term prospects, especially with atomic swaps on the way.

>>25508664
If she is not willing to dress however you tell her to, she does not love you.

Loving this XMR sale

>>25508636
do any of you chads know if I can send a fixed amount of BTC with xmr.to? or can the rate suddenly change leading to less being sent?

Going to sell my S&P 500 stack and go all in on Monero
This is the coin of the future. Moonboys are not welcome, only believers.

>>25509261
>atomic swaps
>just one more year and we'll be happy

>>25509597
possible. you enter amount of btc you want, it shows how much xmr it is, you send the xmr

or just just monerujo for anroid, it used the xmrto api to do it all for you and even supports btc qr codes

>>25509686

>>25509662
Note that the XMR community tends to be more tech savvy and also redpilled af.

>>25509787
thanks anon

How many XMR to make it?

>>25510028
100 and up.

>>25510028
someone posted in last thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

Do the calculation yourself. Obviously depends on your living expenses.

>>25510092
100 is comfy but even 50 is respectable. Some projections have XMR eventually reaching $40K due to massive black money influxes, in which case 50 XMR = $2 million.

>>25510293

Holy shit. When do you think we can hit these prices?

>>25510459
Not for years. It’s a looooong road, but that’s plenty time to accumulate

>>25510459

>>25510293
is a summer 2018 estimate, they obiously haven't been right on the 1-year point. Make of that whyt you will

>>25509818
This will be a big thing, and I'm not sure how well it is priced in yet. expected release is in a year or so

>>25510459
>>Holy shit. When do you think we can hit these prices?

That is a long-term projection, so it'll take a while, probably 5+ years. But then again, this is an irrational market and FOMO is a proven driver of high demand, so once a tipping point is reached.....could happen sooner than we think. But best to be conservative with such expectations and consider XMR a long-term hold.

>>25510293
>eth at $588 at year-10
>is already at $1000
Fuck off with your shitty predictions you cuck

>>25510744
Two days ago year-1 was pretty accurate

Can I make it with 7.5 xmr? It's all the money I have,

>>25510641
>>>25510293(You)
>is a summer 2018 estimate, they obiously haven't been right on the 1-year point. Make of that whyt you will

Yeah, its a rough guesstimate obviously, timeline will likely be off by a matter of years, BTC only just hit $30K.

>>>25509818(You)
>This will be a big thing, and I'm not sure how well it is priced in yet. expected release is in a year or so

Asymmetrical demand for XMR and BTC non-fungibility will mean Monero holders get to charge a premium for taking all those dirty/tainted coins off Bitcoiner's hands, the price should rise accordingly.

>>25509955
yeah, I doubt any of the shitcoin buyers would know how to install Ubuntu let alone tweak an Arch installation and write C

>>25508664
>slut
you watch your mouth, Monero-chan's number of sexual partners is unknown and therefore presumably zero forever

>>25511219
Just stack slowly over time anon, don't invest money you can't afford to miss
>>25511246
>charge a premium for taking all those dirty/tainted coins off Bitcoiner's
>selling XMR for BTC
>ever
not gonna happen

>>25511219
>make it

depends on what your expenses are. If made it means living in a mansion in LA, driving lambos and never work again, than no.

If it means buying a small house in a surban area than maybe? Do the math yourself.

>>25511378
>>charge a premium for taking all those dirty/tainted coins off Bitcoiner's
>>selling XMR for BTC
>>ever
>not gonna happen

based

But there will be a few weak hands - low supply and high demand - guess what that does to the price of xmr

>>25511341
Based and unknown amount pilled
>>25509662
Nice to have you mr. bean anon.
We have been getting a lot of smg and pmg tourists lately. It’s makes me happy knowing that we have respect as a long term hold instead of a moon boy pnd.
>>25510459
Yes.

>>25509662
Same. I was waiting for the new year for tax reasons. WAGMI

>>25511459
I think I can make do this month without this money.
Im tired of just seing cryptos going through the roof and i'm always staying behind.
>>25511459
Just a cozy small house for me and wifey and future kids and a car.

>>25511378
>not gonna happen

Sure it will, I certainly won't but it'll be too lucrative to resist for many, especially if BTC keeps mooning.

1. Swap XMR for BTC at a premium

2. Wait for BTC to moon some more

3. Swap back into XMR

4. Rinse and repeat

Obviously at some point this might become less viable if Monero's price rise starts to outpace Bitcoin's.

>>25511686
You are still early. Monero is cheap right now due to insubstantial fud. Great entry point. and It's not going to moon like a lot of pump and dumps, just steadily grow, so there's time to DCA.
>cozy house, wifey, kids, car
Sounds comfy anon. I have big dreams, but deep down this is all I want

>>25511686
>I think I can make do this month without this money.
dca is better than a one time investment, especially rn. try to get your expenses down are at least know what your expenses are. "it's not about you but about how much you keep"

Crypto is a risky long term investment, only put in what you can afford to loose.

good luck

>>25508636
I will remember all you chads whenever we /makeit/
Smart money, diamond hands, united on an anonymous basket weaving forum.
Comfy

Someone needs to make a “virgin surveillance coin” vs a “chad monero” meme.

I'm a meth head and never used XMR before.
I grow tired of skelly bullshit, the huge fees, ETH 2.0 promises never filed, and want to know if its a good idea to swap, and how much time to hold xmr. Right now its 9% down in relation to eth, in binance. Should I buy? And recommend me a good wallet. I want something more practical.

>>25512870
I don't really 'hold' it, I just use it like an actual bank account for anything that accepts XMR. I buy more than I use, but I still buy things with it so it slowly accumulates.

Over time I saw the value of XMR continue to go up, there were ups and downs, but if you average in your cost basis over time by just slowly adding what you can, you will come out way on top. You don't "hold for x amount of time" you just have it, use it, gain some utility while staying private.

And that, is the key to an actual currency. Everyone buys shitcoins that have less value that your cumstained pillow because they hope it will skyrocket. In reality, very few if any of these coins have any actual potential value as a real currency, i.e. the entire point of this shit. People buy them not to use, but to speculate and hope someone inflates the value so they can bail. Monero on the other hand has quite a large network of accepting vendors / payment processors, not even factoring in the spook web, leading to great long term prospects and steady growth.

Monero has a clear goal, and a real purpose that seperates it from the rest of the cesspool that is crypto, an actual reason it should exist over other coins. So essentially, just buy it faggot.

>>25512831
Template

>>25512870
XMR community feels more like BTC than ETH, it doesn't have Dapps or Defi so there's less going on. But the fundamentals are rock solid and its day will come. In a lot of ways XMR feels like old school BTC back in the early days: calm cypher-frens passionate about tech, privacy, and liberty.

>>25513365
Also this

>>25513378
Based

About to drop 5k on XMR cuz of Monero-chan

>absolut with the ice let's get hammered

>>25512870
Idk, why do you want monero?
As for a wallet, the gold standard is the GUI/CLI.

>>25513330
wrong meme, but extra based so you'll get a pass

>>25513674
based

Please tell me were going to .001 again

>>25512870
>I'm a meth head
Yeah, whatever monero works for everybody (just don't spend your gains on meth pls)

>how much time to hold xmr.
Ideally? Untill you spend it. I don't expect a meteoric rise soon, so if you're looking for that look elsewhere.

> Should I buy?
Sure, doesn't mean you have to go all in.

> And recommend me a good wallet.
On PC the official GUI/CUI from getmonero.org, preferrably together with a ledger/trezor hardware walltet. This is for your savings.

On Android/IOs eihter Monerujo or Cake Wallet. Both are community accepted and support xmr.to natively. Just scan any QR code (XMR or BTC) and it'll process it just fine.

>>25514115
Is binance bad for xmr?

>>25508636
absolutely newfag, but is cpu mining on a home computer still worth it?

>>25513693
hi anon

>>25514115
Careful with cake, there was a known fake up on the play store for a bit.

>>25509662
Why all the hate for moonboys?

>>25514231
Only on a threadripper or newer ryzen.

https://monerobenchmarks.info/

>>25514231
>>25514288
Assuming you want to use the hardware you have, it depends on electriciy cost

>>25514246
Helo fren

>>25514288
Do have a newer Ryzen, will try my luck, thanks!
Can I just use the mining option in the GUI client or are there any secret tricks?

>>25514202
kraken donate to the general fund and their boss is supportive towards monero. Don't know much about binance, but should be ok

>>25514412
You can try this config wizard. Check the misc tab because the default donation to the pool I think is 5% but you can change it.

>xmr thread

>>25514366
It's very profitable if you don't have to pay for hardware or electricity. I go to a tech school and i managed to rig the computers to mine xmr during non-use hours. They haven't noticed yet. Only 10 computers so far, haven't gotten the chance to rig any of the other ones yet.

>>25514486
>>25514412
https://xmrig.com/wizard

>>25514262
Not so much hate, the motivation and memes are fantastic, but sometimes it’s like having too many court jesters entertaining and not enough lords or bishops discussing.

>>25514202
binance has like the second highest volume of any other exchange and no kyc withdrawal under 2 btc. i use it.

>>25514412
good RAM timings can boost gains by as much as 40% on new ryzen. if you'Re comfortable with it, try overclocking the ram

>>25514546
damn, wish I had the opportunity. Electricity is so frickin expensive here that evenwith the most efficient setup (3950x) I'd loose money from the operation alone, not even cointing the initial expense. feels bad man

A few weeks ago an anon made a thread called "The Bullish Case for Monero". It had about 20 or so points describing why and how Monero would eventually take a significant slice of the shadow economy and reach Bitcoin-tier prices.
Does anyone have that bread or know where to find it?

Good time to add more now?

>>25513693
>>25514379
>>25514518
where you here yesterday by any chance? I recognise those images

>>25514674
white house market has already switched exlusively to XMR

>>25514712
I'm always here fren

Hey anon: we have a comfy /biz/ telegram. We don’t post the link too often, but if you want to join this invite link will be temporarily available. It’s laid back and we occasionally discuss ideas for the general.

T (dot) me/joinchat/VdvqnWliELrkDItU

>>25514822
op, to who is this directed at?

>>25514822
Oh, and we also have a brand new matrix group chat! I don’t have an invite link to that but an anon can probably help me out...
>>25514262
Because they are obsessed with unpredictable short term price fluctuations

>>25514956
I meant to say anons* lol.
Anybody here is welcome to join.

>>25511291
either go full autismo with gentoo or stick with ubuntu, fedora and the like
arch is a middle ground for redditors

>>25514724
DNM's play a pretty big role in the price of XMR. I'm expecting monopoly market (another big DNM) to switch from BTC & XMR to exclusively XMR, BTC is too traceable.

[redacted]

Oldie but a goodie.

>>25514556
looks good
does the mining pool matter or just pick any?

>>25515144
Pick one with low pool fees and not too crowded.

part doox.

>>25515006
Post invite code for matrix group chat, seems comfy

>>25515127
>my BBC is dynamic, flexible and can grow or shrink as needed

>I also prostitute for a per kb fee

>>25515250
my sides

Hourly reminder that Monero is poised to become the reserve currency of the global shadow economy and is steadily replacing BTC on the darknet while also making inroads into the e-criminal and money laundering sectors.

>Bitcoin is too hot for criminals. They're using Monero instead
https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/03/technology/bitcoin-popularity-criminals-monero/index.html

>Crooks opt for Monero as crypto of choice to launder ill-gotten gains
https://www.theregister.com/2018/03/16/cyber_crime_economics/

>Darknet Giant White House Market Drops Bitcoin, Supports Monero Payments Only
https://news.bitcoin.com/darknet-giant-white-house-market-drops-bitcoin-supports-monero-payments-only/

>Monero replaces Bitcoin for Sodinokibi Ransomware operators
https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/monero-replaces-bitcoin-for-sodinokibi-ransomware-operators/

>Why Malicious Hackers and Cyber attackers Love A Cryptocurrency Called Monero
https://analyticsindiamag.com/monero-cryptocurrency-hackers/

>$7.5M in Monero Demanded in Alleged Cyber Attack on Argentinian Telecom Giant
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/7-5m-in-monero-demanded-in-alleged-cyber-attack-on-argentinian-telecom-giant/

>Latin American crime cartels turn to cryptocurrencies for money laundering
https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-bitcoin-insight-idUSKBN28I1KD

>Why untraceable cryptocurrencies are here to stay
https://www.cbs.dk/en/the-press/news/why-untraceable-cryptocurrencies-are-here-to-stay

Considering that the global shadow economy is valued in the trillions of dollars, if just a portion of that ends up in Monero's marketcap that is still HUNDREDS of billions of dollars. 5 figure XMR is inevitable.

>>25515425
Thanks for the hourly reminder anon

I just finished trading all the BTC to stack up on XMR. BTC is a shitfest. XMR is the only true crypto. Beend holding for a while now and really believe in the project.
XMR is love.
XMR is life.
Also I want to nakadashi Monero-chan

>>25509818
anyone can spoonfeed me on this.? What are atomic swap? Why is it the next big thing for Monero?

>>25515628
>Also i want to nakadashi Monero-chan
Based. I've thought about making a monero-chan dress for my gf to wear, but i have no fucking clue how to make one. I'll probably have to pay someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff.

>>25515425
5 figure monero is possible but not this year

>>25510293
you'd have to be downright fucking retarded to believe BTC, ETH and LTC are going to be this cheap in 10 years time

>>25515766
You can swap between BTC and XMR directly, supported natively in the client. It will allow you to trade the two directly p2p without the need for a centralized or dex exchange.

>>25515870
fuck, testing tripfaggotry makes it stick, apparently

>>25512709
I think this every time I enter a Monero Chad thread. These gains are going to dwarf the world.

>>25514822
>me/joinchat/VdvqnWliELrkDItU
says the group dosent exist

>>25515766
>anyone can spoonfeed me on this.? What are atomic swap? Why is it the next big thing for Monero?

Atomic swaps basically = P2P crypto exchange with zero counterparty risk. This means you no longer need centralized exchanges to trade BTC <--> XMR, you "connect" directly with somebody wanting to swap and the protocol does the rest, there is no chance of either party getting scammed.

In other words, no middleman = no fees, no AML/KYC, no fear of being delisted. This will be revolutionary for both BTC and XMR, since being able to seamlessly utilize XMR's God-Tier transactional privacy renders all other BTC mixers instantly obsolete.

Best part is, in order for BTC whales to utilize this superior mixing service an absolute FUCKLOAD of Monero will be required, the demand alone should send the price skyrocketing, at which point FOMO kicks in and off to the moon we go.

Project Farcaster, the codename for this particular endeavor, is scheduled to be operational by Q4 2021.

>>25516000
Put “t.” Infront of that.
I had to separate it because it gets marked as spam.

>>25515820
>5 figure monero is possible but not this year

Nobody said this year, its a long-term outlook.

>>25515820
Six figure BTC and five figure XMR by Q4 2021

>>25516122
>>25516121
>>25516061
If atomic swaps are implemented in 2021, there is no telling what the resistance level will be.

>>25514674
Bumping for this screencap set

makeitstack?

Has somebody some spare credits for sms-activate dot ru? Need a verification for telegram but monerujo keeps crashing for some reason

I'm not taking any profits until the monero market cap hits $100 billion. Could be this year, could be 10 years from now. I know for certain it will happen some day though

>>25515911
>>25516061
Thank you anons. i understand it now.

https://www.monerotalk.live/monero-18000-in-5years-a-talk-with-satis-group

>>25515788
you'd need her measurements, a sewing machine, fabric and skill - if you have the time to learn sewing, great! otherwise maybe invest in someone professional. fabric shops usally also offer to tailor something for you. if they are not closed in your area right now. otherwise maybe you can find something like Etsy, but for requests.

wish my gf was into role playing or costumes

>>25516337
eh whatever, I'll retry tomorrow. signing off for today

Here's the thing, monero chads. I want to believe in monero-chan. Most of my holdings are in ETH based coins.

The thing that worries me about the future of monero is arbitrum. A private rollup of Ethereum isn't as absolutely private as Monero but it does have smart contract functionality.

>>25516734
'isn't as private as private'
don't you mean not private?

anything less than untraceable is traceable.

Is it possible to follow the timeline or get some updates about the atomic swap implementation and how it is coming along? Where can I see the progress?

>>25516734
>The thing that worries me about the future of monero is arbitrum. A private rollup of Ethereum isn't as absolutely private as Monero but it does have smart contract functionality.

Why? Monero isn't trying to be 50 different things at once, it does just one thing REALLY well: transactional privacy.

>>25516662
Looking at OP's pic, it's a very complicated dress and it would be very hard to pull off the look. I'd need to get her hair dyed, make custom monero earrings and somehow get high heels with that shape. Not to mention the dress has a very complex shape, almost looks like it has 2 parts to it. No idea how you would even put it on/take it off.

>>25516910

I got you, senpai.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kjgi5g/farcaster_atomicswap_community_update_december/

>>25516962
You know if an anon actually goes through and cosplays his girl as monero Chan he would be immortalized forever. Hopefully I can do it one day Kek.
>>25516734
It’s all buzzwords and empty promises.
Monero works right now better than whatever vaporware your promising. And that’s notwithstanding the atrocious track record of ethereum projects being scams.

>>25515192
Have chosen supportxmr now
let's see how this goes

>>25517060
Anon, before you proceed, make a separate XMR wallet just for recieving mining profits. Good OPSEC is important.

How much will be a make it stack?

>>25517059
I'll probably do it if i don't forget. Dunno if i would post it here tho. As much as i love the XMRchads, i wouldn't let them jerk off to my GF kek

>binance delisting xmr tomorrow for US customers
>poloniex delisting xmr tomorrow

is this any truth into this?

>>25517499

binance isnt available to US customers

binance US doesnt list XMR

>>25517499
Probably not happening. Even if they do i don't give a shit. Still holding my XMR bag.

>>25517192

100+

>>25517499
https://mobile.twitter.com/Poloniex/status/1345701261904064512
And I don’t know about binance but they have a lot of Monero volume so I doubt they’d delist and miss out on those exchange fees.

>>25514465
He’s the crypto J Pow... literally

>>25514712
yes. XMR general is the same 10 people every day.

>>25517781
It's a sign of dedication.

>>25517781
are you sure about that? ;)

>>25517895
It's a handful of people that go on here daily, and a fuckton of newbies that are here just to ask questions or jerk off to monero-chan

>>25518191
For the record, I come here every day and also jerk off to monero Chan

>>25517781
Dedication builds empires.

>>25508636
Should I buy monero right now? And when should I sell?

>>25518588
Yes you should buy now, but what I’m trying to tell you is that, when you’re ready, you won’t need to sell.

>>25517781
>Posters: 43
I knew autists were technically retarded but this is ridiculous.

>>25514674
This one anon:
https://learnbitcoinanalysis.com/the-long-term-bullish-case-for-monero-xmr/

I hold no monero but what do I look up on danbooru to find monerochan.
If you tell me, I might buy some.

>>25515072
Arch is based, nigger, does Gentoo even have a monero package lol

>>25509818
>atomic swaps
>It will be ready by 2038, we're almost there!

>>25519385
the RFC was just barely created

>>25519385

Q4 of this year, actually.

>>25519545
Seems too soon, not sure how much I could amass.

>>25508636
How Do i mine on iphone?

>>25519385

>>25519640

100 would be ideal but 50 will be sufficient if you're willing to wait longer to cash out.

>>25518484
As long as you know that it's me she's actually in love with, I'm ok with that.

>>25518891
Think about it. The people who hold monero are the same kind of people to routinely flush their ip/use a proxy

>>25520004
Ok you’re a schizo, not retarded. Got it. Take your vitamin H, schizo

>>25519545
that's decades in crypto time

>>25517060
settled for moneroocean, seems better

Newfag here, been mining Monero for about half a year now and plan on throwing in personal funds via Kraken if there aren't any more hiccups to Monero's accessibility.

What's everyone's opinion on the IRS/Chainalysis contract that's meant to go hard on tracking transactions? I'm sure this has been talked about at length before but wondering if other anons think that this plus the Bittrex delisting will affect price/availability long term.

>>25520500
their own CEO said as soon as XMR is off an exchange, its untraceable

>>25520542
Sauce?

Michael Gronager, Chainalysis CEO, says privacy coins have a "limited future" according to a piece from Forbes, but given that they already took the deal from the IRS they're almost obligated to say things like that for optics.

>>25521063
Forgot link:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/10/13/chainalysis-reveals-huge-growth-in-government-bitcoin-crypto-and-blockchain-interest-makes-dire-monero-warning/?sh=19d2fcd55a8d

>>25508636
Why are we bleeding all over the place gents?

>>25520542
Yeah, its hot air

when will it be time to buy xmr again? was sold on it during the original bullrun but never bought it because faggotry

aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>25521063
>>25521092
What else would the guy who received an IRS contract to break this crypto say? His hands are tied.
He has a $650m contract from the US government to break this coin. He can't really say "it's damn near impossible" to the press, otherwise he's fucked. He has to pretend like everything is chill.
It's FUD, like most stuff around Monero

>>25521092
>>25521063

https://twitter.com/davejevans/status/1330008956270374918

>>25521303
If you liked it at 160 you should like it even more at 130 with no change in fundementals

>>25520500
Monero can't be directly traced. Addresses don't appear on the blockchain, so it's not like you can look at the blockchain and see amounts going from point A to point B. Also, transaction amounts don't appear on the block chain, and because you can't visit a wallet and see how much Monero anybody has (without a view key, that is), the entire operation is pointless.
The best feds can do is collude with KYC exchanges and horde metadata, e.g. how much Monero somebody is sending off of an exchange, at what time they are sending that Monero, at what IP address they are sending that Monero, and if the person is dumb enough to send off of an exchange directly to a recipient instead of to a intermediary private wallet first (e.g. if the Feds have a honeypot wallet).
In short, leet hack3rs using Bitcoin will have far greater difficulty obfuscating transactions than Joe Schmo who has no idea how Monero works.
And if somebody is a target, than adjusting their opsec will render them invisible provided they study Monero.
If you are interested in learning more about potential weaknesses in Monero, check out Breaking Monero on youtube.

>>25521509
they can ask for your view key and you can give it to them. (one of them)

This is the way

>>25515072
or all of the above, powered by Bedrock™ Linux

>>25512709
this

>>25510570
I just want 500 monero bros

>>25521941
You’ve got one Monero bro here

>>25521941
500 NAKED MONERO BROS IN THE SHOWERS AT RAM RANCH

hallo ehem frens, moonero base in progress, thank you frenz,

>>25522326

If I want to be a millionaire when this moons in the next 5 years, assuming a 200x to £20k, then I need to invest £5000 NOW.
Clock is ticking my friends

>>25516061
Best timeline.

Atomic swaps are and will be revolutionary.

>>25508636
bought 2000 USD in monero yesterday, after selling my ETH at 1100, how did I do guys?

>>25523092
You did good my friend
Over the next 5-10 years this coin will be as highly valued as BTC if not more
But you must be patient for that day, this will not moon in a week

how do i start mining? Right now Im looking at the notepad and trying to set it up to my address

How will monero handle the inevitable increase in transaction costs as the coin gains value? No ones going to pay 30£ gas fees to send 10$ worth of xmr?

>>25523658
how will the miners know how much money they are moving? transaction amounts are private (it's a privacy coin after all)

>>25523213
sounds good! Where are the monero memes at?

>>25523658
Monero has dynamic block size. The blocks will get bigger if there are more transactions, so actually the fees will stay low.
>>25523767
We have a decent amount but it’s up to anons like you to make more (:

>>25509818
let's say I'm buying a buttcoiner's tainted surveillance coins for a hefty premium via atomic swaps. How/where do I then turn around and sell these tainted buttcoins for a profit?

Sup bros, not into crypto at all yet as I see too many flaws with the legacy coins so far & did even when bitcoin mooned in 2013 after silkroad takedown. This one gets shilled alot as the actual privacy currency, that is actually what I want. Where to begin on learning this and to potentially get into it?

>>25523898
There's this great PDF from the official team explaining the crypto and technology, came out quite recently too (April 2020): https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
Otherwise you can lurk here in /biz/XMR/ or over at /r/Monero, there are good discussions to be had

>>25523898
>>25523998
A lot of good stuff on youtube too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8quGD9W7B2I

>>25523898
https://youtu.be/8quGD9W7B2I
This presentation does a good job of over viewing how Monero has improved in Bitcoin.
I’d recommend lurking and asking questions in our generals or doing some internet searches as you learn more.

Would you say it's stupid to run the Monero GUI on a clean Windows laptop with no extra programs installed aside from Chrome and Tor Browser? I created the wallet itself on the same install and followed basic practice (wrote the seed down directly on paper, never stored it electronically or copied to clipboard). I'll probably install Ubuntu over that partition later as the wallet increases in value, but still

>>25508636
Monero-chan is so cute! I want to sit beside her...

>>25524285
It's OK, unless your thread model is personal breathing down your neck attention from the 3-letter bois.
But if you're already using TBB, I'd advise routing Monero through Tor. Network observers will know if you use Tor, but they don't need to know that you run a Monero node.

>>25521509
>Breaking Monero
Will be binging this series, thanks anon

where's the cheapest place to buy XMR, exodus has some crazy fees

>>25524862
Paying someone irl for the exact ammount

>>25524862
I am also curious. I'm new to crypto. I have been using Robinhood on my phone, but can't buy XRM. Any suggestions?

>>25524862
>>25524943
any decent exchange
kraken / binance / ..

>>25524970
Thank you, anon.

I FEEL FUCKING AMAZING
I LOVE XMR
I LOVE MY LIFE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CANT STOP BEING HAPPY

>>25519085
Yeah i think so, thanks fren. Must have just copied it onto here.

>>25524428
Thanks. I run the simple mode which means I have no node, I suppose. Oh well

Are you MonerChads expecting this to partake in the bullrun despite the exchange FUD? Or is it more of a long term hold?

>>25523874
>let's say I'm buying a buttcoiner's tainted surveillance coins for a hefty premium via atomic swaps. How/where do I then turn around and sell these tainted buttcoins for a profit?

You wait for BTC to moon high enough to make selling or swapping back into XMR profitable. But as XMR's real-world utility and thus future prospects become more apparent you might find more Buttcoiners staying in Monero rather than swapping back, which will have the effect of making BTC seem less valuable while further boosting Monero's price.

Wouldn't Monero's increasing price make mining more attractive? If it reaches 5k or more without the mining difficulty increasing even 0.3 XMR is quite good.

>>25523998
>>25524067
>>25524088
Thanks

>>25508636
How can we be sure it won't become compromised like bitcoin?

There's over $36 trillion (trillion) held in offshore tax havens right now. Ask yourself why that might be, and now ask yourself if any of that will find its way to XMR over the coming years.

Hint: it will. A lot of it will.

>>25525069
>Are you MonerChads expecting this to partake in the bullrun despite the exchange FUD? Or is it more of a long term hold?

XMR is a long-term hold. If you truly want to make it learn the virtue of patience, dump everything into a paper wallet and check the price once a year.

>>25525597
bullish

>>25525724
how many years will i have to check before i make it?

>>25525784
3 years minimum

>>25525784
10 and youll make it

So Kraken > 1st wallet > 2nd wallet is the safest way or is buying BTC in bisq and exchanging that to XMR better? Wouldn't it still be known that you possess Monero if you use a KYC exchange?

>>25525910
As far as anyone else is concerned, I buy Monero on centralized exchanges and withdraw it to private wallets so that I can spend every single peso on charities that accept Monero.

I don't hold on to any of it.

>>25525910
>So Kraken > 1st wallet > 2nd wallet is the safest way or is buying
You can generate a stealth address for your main wallet and then send from Kraken into that stealth address. Nobody but you will know that the money went into your main wallet, Kraken won't know anything.
>Wouldn't it still be known that you possess Monero if you use a KYC exchange?
Yes, but it can be both good and bad. It may get you flagged as a potential criminal, but they can't prove you did evil thing with the coins you bought, you can always pretend that you lost your keys and that your coins are lost or something.
Or you can view it as a good thing, e.g. it allows you to keep a track of all the Monero you bought, allowing you to cash out in 10 years time and keep track of all the capital gains taxes, allowing you to have clean legal fiat money in the end

>>25516826
IDK Anon, I don't think privacy is binary, I think it's a spectrum. Even Monero, the gold standard, offer privacy in a probabilistic way. There is a whole spectrum of meta data and opsec too.

>>25525724
This.

>>25526190
>There is a whole spectrum of meta data and opsec too.
Such as?

i'm going to be a tripfag from now on

>>25526352
Yeah!

>>25525832
I'll be nearly 50 in 10 years... maybe my son will make it

>>25508636
What’s a make it stack?
What’s a suicide stack?

Pls no more [unknown amount] sirs. I need to know.

>>25527522
Make it stack: Unknown ammount
Suicide stack: Unknown ammount

>>25527661
>ammount
So at least 1MM?

>>25527759
Wow i didn't expect anyone to get it
I totally didn't just fuck up the spelling

>>25527522
unknown amount

>>25527947
You need to be high IQ to make it in the crypto world.

im thinking about selling it. tell me why i shouldnt. the gui wallet sucks and i hate hodling on a phone. i hate having to wait for the nodes to sync before i can send. wtf devs?

>>25528219
NOOOOOO DONT TELL EVERYONE THE TRUTH

>>25528266
Don't abandon your monaro's, donate them to my shelter. Thanks.

monero:49sGJBMd1n4MHzJxfsUsBEUuWSAdCRvum9dRUQYhsVjNXivXZas3hjGSsuMj1q7t4PLWsTwSiRQC4WpXmoLpeqN2Nhn5YG1

>>25528266
Some people on the dark web (Dread in particular) were working on an alternative desktop wallet to avoid the Electron GUI wallet
Besides that, you shouldn't sell just because the wallet is bad. Monero is much bigger than its wallet, it's a privacy coin for crying out loud. It is the future!

>>25528266
leave, we don't care.
And the gui doesn't suck. You're just being a brainlet.

>>25528345
PAJEET BEGGARS BTFO

>>25528266
>tell me why i shouldnt
You'll make money. Please sell though

>>25528477
should be simpler you fucking pajeet

>>25528495
Hey he was gona abandon them, I was just gona give them big HODL.

>>25528345
just sent 3 xmr to you be bold in life lil jeet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3bjE2f-hWA
informative shit
fight for your privacy bros

how do you guys store you fucking jeety xmr? do you make cold wallet style of gui and then upload to cake to send for fucking jeets

>>25528568
Ok Rajeesh Shitinstreet. Stop begging for money and go back to your call center job.

>>25511341
based

>>25528701
youre are a good curry in my country

>>25513674
based
>>25513693
lit as fuck

>>25528701
Henlo lebanon good to see u around

>>25528716
I use a paper wallet for cold storage / long term, then, I have a intermediary wallet that I use for ripping from exchanges and recieving. After recieving I just ship them over to my paper. I imported that 'intermediary wallet' into cake on my phone and I keep an unknown amount of monaro in there for daily transactions.

>>25528628
Thanks dad.

>>25515230
https://matrix.to/#/!aPTsXOKuYMQfuqtxYP:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

>>25515913
kek

>>25516326
an unknown amount anon
>>25517895
based

>>25528847
always a pleasure
>>25528822
lmao

>>25528561
>calling a monero chad a pajeet after whining over literal boomer tech problems
yeah the projection is strong with you. the litecoin threads are that way.

>>25523092
no friend, you bought [an unknown amount]. Never tell anybody else what you have.

>>25528266
monero is a cult, get out while you still can
the entire ecosystem is a built atop lies, the wallets suck, the implementation sucks, the community sucks.

p.s. a little fairy told me whitehouse market got shelled using my zeroday i sold to an exploit firm.

>>25528266
GUI wallet is cumbersome if you decide to download the entire blockchain for maximum privacy and support of the XMR community (which is a chad move).

However, you can just download it and connect to a remote node, be synced up in like 20 minutes, and have extremely secure storage.

Alternately, create a wallet with Cakewallet, write down your private seed, put your XMR there, and delete cake from your phone. Congratulations, you aren't hodling on a phone anymore- that's just your initial access point.

>>25529772
>1 post by this ID

>>25529772
kek

public ledger, seethe harder

>>25529772
>My 0DaY i SoLd To An ExPlOiT f1rm
>t.hacker
the community is one of the most based and supportive ones I know
fuck outta here with your shit

>>25529881
can confirm
I'd also recommend the CLI had no problems with it whatsoever so far

>>25515425
Jews fear XMR.

"CipherTrace filed their second patent application on Monero tracing techniques. Nobody can deterministically trace Monero transactions yet. But this lays the groundwork for meaningful results particularly for tracing large scale thefts & crime"

>Can't trace deterministically
They literally cannot trace it at all top jej

You can't beat math. And all the important math had been audited aswell.

This reminds me of the US gov trying to declare encryption "a military weapon" kek

>>25525193
I don't really follow, seems like I'd just be left bagholding their tainted butts

>>25531537
I guess I worded it wrong. I would be selling xmr for a hefty premium/buying tainted butts at a hefty discount.

is it okay to leave my computer running 24/7 to mine?

bear in mind I use this for everything, gaming, work etc. thing is where I'm living I don't have to pay for electricity it's included in the rent so I think I may as well start mining

>>25532015
Yeah, you'll be fine. Just be aware if you're mining on old hardware the high temperature could reduce its lifespan. Make sure you're planning to get more money out of it than the price of a new GPU.

>>25528375
>>25528266

I still can't tell if people are joking about this, I've never had a problem with the GUI wallet, it seems intuitive to me. Am I just a turbo autist?

>>25516061
>use atomic swap
>swap your xmr and get tainted btc in return
oh no no no

Monero will take my family out of the poverty

>>25532071
I think my specs suck for mining..
CPU Ryzen 2600
rx 580 GPU

too shit?

>>25532584
That's reasonably profitable as long as you don't pay for the electricity. Check the monero mining calculators to get an exact number.

>>25532627
apparently only $140 per year.

>>25532404
yea I dont really get it, I don't want dirty buttcoins

>>25532404
>>25532796
It'll work the same way regular exchanges make it work, except with open decentralized exchanges.
The software takes care of matching you with another user, blacklisting tainted BTC, and price discovery.

>>25532906
>blacklisting tainted BTC
requires a centralized blacklist... oh no no no no

>>25533162
You don't have to use the service.
Centralization is only bad when it concentrates power or compromises privacy. A centralized blacklist is neither of those things.

>>25532404
>swap monero for tainted bitcoin
>spend tainted bitcoin, that was paid at a premium, to a vendor.
>?????
>Profit
If this is actually a problem, where there are databases storing information about tainted Bitcoin, it means more people will want to swap or onramp into Monero.

>>25533210
we already have bisq, the 'atomic swap' youre describing is no less centralized than that, and therefore worthless

also a centralized blacklist is extremely problematic

>>25521124
This is why, this video from two months ago:
https://youtu.be/b7BP6hU7AQw
Newfrens got introduced, then got shaken off because insubstantial FUD made them think that it's going to crash like XRP. It is extremely bullish. It means that it has mainstream adoption is happening, but they crypto illiterate don't understand what Monero really is. So they buy high and sell low.

>>25533311
>spend tainted bitcoin at a vendor
>'huh, looks like this payment we got has links to drug website / cartel. we better pass this on to law enforcement'
???
no profit. do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars

>>25533402
Explain to me how that bitcoin would have any connection to me faggot

>>25533356
it IS going to crash. monero is like an egg right now. whatever rises from the ashes after it is criminalized and completely tanks will be the phoenix coin which saves crypto

>>25533437
are you retarded? you spent tainted bitcoin at a vendor (in this example). they don't want that.

>>25533505
Oh I forgot that I have to provide kyc to do an atomic swap, my mistake.
Where’s my 200 dollars glowfudder?

>>25533589
youre either retarded or intentionally evading the point. i don't think you actually understand how atomic swaps even work. or you think that vendors either want tainted bitcoin (they don't), or that you will only spend it at vendors that know nothing about you (they don't want it either, and that is an extremely limited set of vendors, why even change your xmr to bitcoin in that instance)

>>25533453
There's no basis for this. No legal footing to attack it. Kraken, one of it's biggest CEXs donates to monero devs. Pic related is Kraken CEO.
>It IS going to crash
God I hope so I want some more cheapies.

>>25533693
right, it's not fud. I'm just assuming in the future tainted btc will basically be equivalent to some random erc20 shitcoin. So I have no incentive to trade my xmr for it since the dirty btc is not accepted anywhere and there's no arbitrage opportunity.

>>25533693
no, you are the retard.
>i don't think you actually understand how atomic swaps even work
it's a p2p swap of Bitcoin and Monero. No KYC is required meaning the Bitcoin wallet I receive Bitcoin in (assuming I am sending XMR) has no connection to my identity. what don't you understand about that?
If we are at the point where coin taint is that much of an issue, where I can't even send received tainted Bitcoin to a regular merchant selling goods on the internet, then Monero has already won. But this is still a ways off, and in the transition period to when Monero begins overtaking Bitcoin, it will be an insanely bullish tool (and keep in mind that other cryptos will be implemented for atomic swaps as well)
> or you think that vendors either want tainted bitcoin (they don't)
yeah no shit genius, but that isn't available today.
and you also haven't figured out that Monero would sell at a premium because of these risks. But you are slow, so it's not all that surprising.

>>25530239
Jews fear the indoor monero miner and node operator

>>25532015
>is it okay to leave my computer running 24/7 to mine?
yeah, but you might want to make sure you don't have thermal issues: paste, fans, dusty heat sinks.

>>25532584
you might make 2 XMR per year with that rig

>>25533987
grrrr
forgot pic

>>25533987
>you might make 2 XMR per year with that rig
so really it's mine as much as possible and just hope that 2 XMR might be worth $1000 dollars in a year's time..

maybe I should mine Beam coin or something lmao

>>25533505
How do they know its tainted?

>>25509955
>tends to be more tech savvy and also redpilled af.
Checked

>>25534240
You might aswell mine eth and dump that for xmr

WHY TF ARE ALL EXCHANGES SO ANAL ABOUT IDENTITY AND IP ADDRESS AND 2 FACTOR AUTHENTICATION, I JUST WANNA BUY XMR
FUCK IT I'M GOING LOCALMONERO

When is atomic swaps being released? It seems the success of monero is completely dependent on Bitcoin becoming accepted and atomically swapping monero for btc to cash out crime/drug money?

What's the difference between wallet, account and addresses?