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It only helps out people who are borderline retarded in some mental aspect. If you can function somewhat normally and can conceptualize what you have to do then therapy is completely a waste of time and money.

>>25519108
no, it's a waste of time, the single most effective thing to heal all your mental illness is religion

>>25519154
Honestly, this is a midwit trap. Smart people are constantly thinking, and it's possible to find yourself in negative traps of thought.

I would try psychedelics and meditation, perhaps with some ambient music involved, to be more effective. Mushrooms and a bit of weed are great for this, every once in a while. Also if you use any substance daily or eat an unhealthy diet, stop doing this before going to therapy. It's the basics of the basics.

You'll probably just be put on SSRis and stuck in the same negative mindsets that allowed you to become depressive, but be more complacent with them. Depression builds on itself.

You are depressed ---> You don't do someting for yourself ---> You become more depressed ---> You don't do something for yourself. Etc. etc. etc. It's ultimately up to you to break this cycle, and no one else except yourself can. So looking inward to change your habits is crucial. You likely already know what you need to do, but it's tough to break habits. Simplify your goals, and achieve them one step at a time.

Holy crap I'm going to stop masturbating after writing this.

It can help because often your mind works against you in this issue and an outside perspective may be needed to overcome this.

>>25519296
Sorry, guys, expect more Charles Hoskinson is sooooooooooooooo cuuuuuuuute threads.

>>25519154
this.
poor substitute for a social support system, which is probably what most people who turn to therapy are really after.
It is a tragedy that fraternity is not an option for many younger men for one reason or another.

>>25519108
Look at this cool helmet anon

I love therapy. I don’t have any mental illness or anything so my therapy consist of me talking to a beautiful therapist about my dating life, crypto, meditation, yoga, self work, my work, goals, and relationships. Its super satisfying and clears my mind in a different way. 10/10 worth it.

>>25519413
I feel it would be infinitely more rewarding to have a friend that actually listens and gives a shit for free rather than paying someone to pretend.

>>25519296
>>25519329
Should I get male or female therapist. Is it worth paying a premium for a good one?

>>25519108
Therapists or psychologists are indoctrinators that try and manipulate your mind into coping with this clown world society.

>>25519458
I would try to fix yourself first. Do you have friends? Is your room clean? Do you have any hobbies or interests? What do you feel is the problem in your life necessitating the need for a therapist?

>>25519441
I'm married even, but I couldn't tell my wife shit without it affecting us. And I don't want to just rant to friends for hours.
I also kind of agree with >>25519154
though. When I tried going to therapy years ago for actual problems I felt like I was speaking to idiots and I easily came to the same conclusions as them myself.
But the benefit of just talking about your life for casual advice here and there to a therapist might actually be worth it.

>>25519441
I totally agree with that, but this is different. It’s 100% about you and the routine of it lets you hyper focus on yourself and make incremental progress. It has nothing to do with the relationship with the therapist. She is almost like a npc guide while you are focusing on yourself and doing the work and contemplation. I’d give it a shot. It has helped me.

>>25519108
depends on the form of therapy. i spent a few years working out all my shit on an inner experience level and it was well worth it to me. i no longer experience any cycling thoughts, no unwanted thoughts, no emotional distress related to any memories of past experiences, no attention problems, etc. i experience feelings of deficiency and social anxiety rarely or never now. my mental clarity and my ability to ingest information has improved tremendously.

>>25519604
>I'm married even, but I couldn't tell my wife shit without it affecting us.
I'm sorry that sounds awful, I can't imagine ever being with someone who makes it uncomfortable to share important thoughts.

>>25519108
>Alright, times up. Pay me at the front desk.

therapy fills the void but doesn't tend to it

>>25519831
Yeah you wouldn't get it, you'll understand when you're older.

Tried therapy numerous times over the years to try and help with my severe depression but never made even a millimeter of progress. No help or guidance, just a bunch of useless cliches, platitudes, and obvious shit that I don't need to spend hundreds an hour to figure out. If therapy actually provided some useful insights behind why I'm such a wreck and what can be done about it it'd be worth it but I have never met a therapist who can do that. Like >>25519296 said it's mostly for dumb people who are impressed by trite bromides.

>>25520113
this viewpoint is completely fucked just letting you know

>>25520379
Get back to me when you're married with multiple kids like I am about how wonderful your relationship is.

>>25520278
Why do so many rich and successful people swear by therapy?

>>25520278
Have you tried ketamine and LSD?

If you aren't the type to handle LSD, a bit of klonopin can guide the trip to a more relaxed state. Make sure you're in a good set and setting. Somewhere relaxing. Pick good music. Get a good friend you are willing to cry around.

>>25519518
28 klhv schizoid, lost my make it stack to a rugpull and my job shortly after

>>25519108

A trusted, objective, outside perspective is extremely valuable.

Everyone in your life is entangled with you in some fashion and will talk to you as a means to an end, according to your relationship dynamic.

A cognitive behavioral health therapist is an outside perspective with years of training in the field of psychology/behavioral health.

I would indeed recommend it, ALONG WITH reading into whatever your problems are on your own. If you have trust/abandonment issues, seek out articles/forums/novels/psychology science journals/self-help literature related to that subject. Don't just- chat with therapist- go home- continue doing toxic behavior without actually trying to change self.

All that said. Shop around for a good therapist, don't just stick with the first one you come upon. I would suggest seeking one out that's your gender.

Also, $150 per session is normal. $250 is ridiculous.

>>25520464
You have no reason to justify the way you're treated, but do it anyway out of a defensive reflex. It's not healthy anon, and not everyone who is married has that problem despite what you may think.

Therapy is good, you need to find the right therapist for your specific illness though

>>25520480
Rich and successful people swear by scientology too. Doesn't make it real

>>25520506
I have tried both. LSD helps by letting me see myself from outside of myself and break down the walls of my mental prison. Problem is that as soon as it wears off the walls go right back up and I'm no better off. It provides temporary relief but that's it. Ketamine just got me high, no real benefit

>>25520658

They swear by Scientology because they're in on the pyramid scheme.

Just like a democrat/republican swears by their party ideals because of their career and ambitions.

Or an abrahamic cultist swears by their cult to justify whatever it is they want to do. They want to take advantage of others? Their cult tells them the others are cattle and all nations are to belong to them. They wake up one morning and want to hurt people? Their abrahamic cult [DESERT MANUAL] tells them their violence is justified through this and that mental gymnastic.

>>25519108
>>25519225
>>25519154

I have bipolar disorder or something else and have been passed round 3 different therapists. The first two said "we weren't compatible" the last one said "well if that's what you think maybe you don't need an therapist" and I said fine. Doesn't mean it isn't the right option for some people.

Also I have ETH will it keep going up

>>25520516
therapy could very well help you anon,
as would getting involved in any type of extracurricular social setting (friends, church, some club, cycling etc).

there are plenty of average to beautiful women out there dying to be kissed, hand held and fucked. you just have to take steps to make yourself decently attractive and confident enough to pursue them

>>25519108
If you need to talk someone to NOT pull the trigger... You might as well and go ahead and PULL the trigger
ngmi

>>25519154
You are a moron.


>>25519108
It works, just make sure you get a male therapist with 20 years of experience or more. Don't pick female therapists, they don't know the fuck they are talking about

>Also I have ETH will it keep going up

>>25522175
>female
>don't know the fuck they are talking about

Who could have guessed?