/biz/ - Business & Finance

20 cent stable coin! kek!

>>25508275
I'm accumulating as much as possible right now. Bitcoin will probably dip back in to the 20k's for the remainder of the year which will keep the BAT price low but I feel like the time of .20 BAT is coming to an end. 2021 is probably the last time we'll be able to buy under $1.

> 24 million MAU
> advertisers bought 287k worth of BAT between December 28 - 30

iykyk

>>25508275
FUCKING GO UP YOU DIRTY PIECE OF SHIT 3 YEARS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>25508892
It is until it isn't...

>>25508275
I am using this coin to short against it. Is this a mistake?

>>25508275
We need more BAT meme's though. There's a nice collection now but it needs to be on par with the stinkies if this thing is going to hit $100 a BAT.

https://www.memeatlas.com/BAT-memes.html

>>25509114
Brave also needs to release something that's not a fucking widget, or Elon needs to tweet "BAT token :)" which means we are going to be in limbo for another year.

Brave will also be the first company to IPO that has an integrated crypto currency as well. I'm sure that will happen in the next couple of years and by that time it will have a reputation as the Google killer which will make it a very lucrative IPO. That alone will slingshot the price of BAT. Jacks me up famalam.

>>25508990
its in the stablecoin section on coinbase for a reason

>>25509207
Soon brother, soon...

ENORMOUS BULLRUN FOR ALL BTC, ETH, AND ALTS. HUGE PUMP ON LITECOIN
>Bat still 20 cents
Yeah you guys are being XRP'd. Sell your bags, this shit is worthless.

>>25508990
This basically. Shouldn’t even be treated like a crypto. Hardly moves with the herd. As long as users keep adding on, it’s a solid investment. Whether you want to add on more bat and be patient or try to 2-10x on another project is up to you. I used to be all in but I caved and split it up while holding about 1/4 of what bat I had. I made more money in other projects I ever did by just holding bat. Still holding though. It has normie attraction and real life use case while solving issues and making you an income. They’ve followed regs even to the discontent of their user base. KYC meme is bullshit, soon there’ll be so much regs that this will feel like the Wild West

>>25509329
Ok so at the very least you're not going to lose money and the best case scenario is it does a 1000x. What's the issue here? Or are you just waiting to shill the rug pull of the week from your discord group.

>>25509493
or worse, it could stay at 20c for all time and we will be stuck in limbo saying "just 6 more months" and never achieve closure till the day we die. At least with a rug pull you can move on

>>25509619
so.... being XRP'd.
Look at XRP chart, do you guys want to be them?

>>25509619
Rule number 1 in investing is preserve capital. Ask me how I know that you haven't made any substantial money trading...

>>25509772
>Rule number 1 in investing is preserve capital.
Maybe if you're a boomer who doesn't know how to 10x and wants to spend 20 years investing when all you have to do is make it and stop paying attention.

Look at the price on this motherfucker

Its price literally cannot go up. It’s hilarious. Absolute fucking shitcoin in every sense of the term. Trash!

>>25508275
Just bought 5k more. Let’s go

>>25508988
The early memes sure were good. I went in more than Link on this shitcoin

>>25509932
So if you're still here you haven't made it yet then. Which just goes to show that you have a shit investment strategy. Meanwhile in 20 years I'll still have all my starting capital and the gains I made along the way. Let me guess you make under 100k a year too.

> *sips*

>>25510225
I've done 3x this past 30 days alone and 10x since march and you've held BAT bags for no reason.

>>25510225
Literally stay on reddit i bet you baghold cripple too retard

Honest post here, I wish you all the best with your investment. Been using Brave since 2018 and I will continue to do so, but have completely moved away from use of the token. Can't withdraw without going through (((KYC))). The monthly token claims glitch and don't work 90% of the time on my phone and tablet - PC works okay. The majority of websites I visit, which are primarily crypto sites, still haven't bothered to accept BAT donations. Token price hasn't moved in three years despite tens of millions of users. And after getting spammed 5x per hour with ads for the last two years, I've received $18 worth of BAT rewards. Meanwhile my LINK bags retired me and bought a house. What do you all see catalyzing actual price movement for BAT this year?

>>25509306
Google Killer? I doubt it, although a strong alternative? Possibly

>>25510348
>>25510324
Double-replying. Oh he mad son. It's not like you should invest solely in BAT, no one said that and you're a strawmanning faggot.

>>25509493
or worse it could crab while everything pumps and dump when everything dumps. its not going back to a dollar

>>25510407
BAT has and always will be worthless. Brave is a bad browser and the owner stole affiliate money from people. He can not be trusted, what he did broke laws.

>>25510324
>>25510348
So what you have $1000 now? Good for you little guy, did your mommy tell everyone what a good little investor you were? And if I had to guess I'd bet that you're the schizo rippler.

>>25510359
IPO? E-celeb utilization of token? Self-serve? Snowball adoption effect? Google anti-trust suit? 50M user mark? I dunno lots of potential.

>>25510398
With respect to advertising I mean, Google is a whole other story when it comes to the other services they offer. But ya strong alternative is a better way to put it.

>>25510407
> lmao he mad

>>25510481
Is this the binance widget fud again? If you click on their widget of course they're going to use their referral code. Try not being dumb.

>>25510481
Keep seething tiny tim.

>>25510359
It’s fucking depressing. I concur with bagholders that BAT is a good idea and that it may have more legitimate use cases going forward. But 2020 made me begin to doubt the BAT/Brave team’s ability to really get users on board with the token, and literally everything about BAT points to its price being irrelevant and not important to its utility.

The team was very clear that this is a utility token and not an investment. At first I thought they said this with a wink and a nudge, and then I realized that they are actively working against any price speculation in order to confirm this (clearly for legal reasons). Until the SEC clears up security regulations, possibly through the Ripple/XRP lawsuit, BAT will continue sitting in limbo. Brave basically needs a court order saying BAT is not a security for any price action to take place. That could take years. This shit is going absolutely nowhere in the meantime and is/has been a total fucking waste of time. Many were duped into “investing” in this by a sly Brave team, but >it’s not an investment.

>>25511002
> then I realized that they are actively working against any price speculation in order to confirm this

Of course. That is one of the biggest indicators that Brave is a legitimate company and not a rug pull or pnd scam like ripple or chainlink. Not to mention that a reputable VC firm like founders fund would never be involved in a project like that.

>>25509772
>Ask me how I know that you haven't made any substantial money trading...
Well, I wrote a market making bot (started running it summer of last year) that is making me a killing with all this volatility, pic related, and that doesn't include the BTC pairs which also made me a decent amount. While I am a terrible manual trader/investor, I clearly know a thing or two about trading and risk. The thing is, if you dig deep into r/batproject, you'll see some worrying posts such as lack of advertiser interest by team members. Think about it, how can we have so many fucking users and still be stuck at the same price we were 3 years ago? Something is clearly wrong with the project, and I am pretty sure it is advertiser's disinterest.

>>25508275
doomed, actually, because it's an ETH spinoff shitcoin that's got unuseable fees.

>>25512166
I bet you're impressed with yourself that you managed to make that small amount of money in a giant bullrun. Hat's off to you tiny tim. I made 4x that. Of course I'm larping though.

> Think about it, how can we have so many fucking users and still be stuck at the same price we were 3 years ago

Trading shitcoins has seriously warped your sense of value and price action. Just admit that you're a trader and not an investor and that BAT isn't the project for you. And to your point about lack of advertiser interest, I don't think you could be farther off the mark. Just look at the current advertisers and tell me how fortune 500 companies running multiple consecutive ad campaigns is them losing interest?

>>25511902
I’m glad you agree, but that doesn’t negate my other points that BAT’s price is going nowhere and discouraging investment in BAT is a double-edged sword.

BAT is trying to be a legitimate crypto project, which is admirable, but a major part of crypto has become price speculation. That’s a fact. It encourages hype, users (this would be BAT users, not Brave users), investors, adaptation, etc. if you discourage investment in a utility token, you’re in part discouraging its use and adaptation. BAT will be worth 20-30¢ a year from now, accordingly

>>25513966
Why would you assume that the "hype" would always stay static? Could that not change in the future?

>>25512807
>Just admit that you're a trader and not an investor
Holy shit you are retarded. Do you know what sharpe/sortino ratios are Mr fucking bigshot trader? It is gains/risk (some people say they are overly simplistic which I somewhat agree with but it's not completely useless). A line going straight up without crazy dips is a very good thing if your strategy is constantly taking profit. Too high risk, even with massive gains is not good because there was a decent chance it could have gone the other way. Being proud of staying at 20c is retarded. You are literally speculating at this point, which is not what a good trader does. Also, here is the current state of BAT paywalls:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/jpj90n/when_am_i_going_to_be_able_to_pay_for_news/gbfb5mt/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&context=3&utm_name=BATProject&utm_content=t1_gdaeu8n
>That said, we will have SKUs and publishers will be able to use them for pay per view articles and content, but it wasn't made a higher priority because the market feedback was that it was not a high priority for publishers.

I also hold plenty of coins other than BAT like BTC, XMR, and ETH, so my net worth went way up too during the bullrun, but the market maker takes profit, so these are realized gains that is just printing money. Enjoy getting dumped on because you will be too fucking stupid to sell. I will be selling you my bags at 40c and you can enjoy limbo.

>>25513966
I think the issue at hand is simply that BAT does not have enough utilization right now. You either tip, which many find gay, or jump through hoops too high for normie brains in order to keep it for yourself and cash out a few bucks.

I am pinning my hopes on greater utility.

The problem with BAT is the supply. If there was less it would be worth way more considering there is an actual use case.

>>25514082
How did you manage to fit so much seethe in one post? Seriously, asking for a friend.

> noo not my hecking paywallerinos!!!

Just admit it, you lost.

>>25514426
lmao what did I lose? You literally have no response

>seriously, asking for a friend
back you go

>>25514182
agree. Tipping would cause a lot of excitement if it were easy for normies to cash out and BAT was actually worth anything at all. Right now neither of those are true and tipping is laughably worthless

BAT’s heart is in the right place but execution is just not there, at all.

>>25515054
You bring up no valid points, there's nothing to refute.

> back you go

You're the one who posted a reddit link pal.

5 $ in 3 months

>>25509401
Is this my boy? Lmao

>>25516237
idk, who is it supposed to be?

>>25515637
Lol no arguments again. And nice spacing, back you go

>>25516512
> literally posts r*ddit link
> demands that others go back to r*ddit

Such is life when high schools are virtual.

>>25508275
NANO is inevitable. come up with your own slogan.

Happy Monday Lads.

>>25514182
Agreed. Utility is coming "soon" hopefully.

>>25516657
>Such is life when high schools are virtual.
He's already dead, lad. Wrecked lol

>>25516978
Lol, thanks brap anon. No mercy for BAT bobo's.

Ok just read the thread fellas and want to address some key points.

Brave is working in making cashing out bat easier this year through different exchanges and making it easier to spend bat with the pay with bat feature.

Advertisers are interested in bat. Hence PayPal and Amazon advertising on the platform.

More utility than just tipping is on the way such as paying with bat.

Staking is being talked of through their Themis program.

Brave just updated the basicattentiontoken website in line with a full campaign this year. I don't get why people hate bat but shill random defi crap. I get that they get 10x or whatever daily but they seem to be playing with low 5 digits sums at most. I understand that btc eth link has done better than Bat, but one day the 50mil users and market will twig to the fact that there is a token underpinning a rapidly growing ecosystem (not just tipping) and token value will soar. There is a finite amount of batties. It's just a matter of time, and it could be a while. Bat will always be here, the father of the prodigal son 'apeing' into random rugpulls.

>>25508275
Switched to Brave a few days ago. It's really cool. The internet is finally somewhat usable again.

But I deactivated everything BAT related. What's the point of this shitcoin? I'm not going to send some idiot on reddit 1 BAT for posting le epic meme and I won't watch ads to collect 1/10 of a cent per hour or whatever.

iiLnyMTB please refer to this anon >>25517063

Then you have my permission to get back to ribbit

>>25508275
we do not yet talk about bat

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>>25517107
>What's the point of this shitcoin?

Part of the point is that you shouldn’t have to send it to anyone. You should get what’s owed to you for having ads shoved in your face. That was originally one of the whole reasons for the token’s existence.

>>25517063
Good post. Makes me want to double down on this shitcoin.

>>25517063
Hi Luke

GUYS NOBODY USES IPHONES
COVIDS NOT REAL

>>25508275
TWENTY FIVE CENT STABLECOIN

>>25509114

>>25517486
>GUYS NOBODY USES IPHONES
I do :(

>>25517486
Worrying about covid-19 and using an iphone are unironically cringe behaviors.

>>25517401
>You should get what’s owed to you for having ads shoved in your face.
Does everybody realize that this is nonsense, or are the Brave founders actually retarded?

>>25509114

>>25517735
I'm going to appeal to authority here but do you realize who the VC backers of Brave are? Have you ever heard of founders fund or Peter Thiel? They didn't think it was dumb when they founded it.

>>25517449
Hi it's actually Jennie :)

>>25517314
They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth

>>25517735
People have conceptualised it since the late 90s, cryptocurrency allowed it to happen. It's happening right now.


Btw fellas I didn't even mention self serve ad buys nor publisher ads in my last post, they are the biggest 2021 news incoming.

This is now a BAT thread.

>>25517735
Now you just sound like a dumbass. How is it nonsense? The average NPC unironically browses the Internet without Adblock. They’re getting ads shoved in their face >for free like a good little cuck.

Ask anybody if they’d like $1 a week for browsing the Internet and they’d say “what’s the catch?” There’s no catch here, it’s just finally possible with current tech. The problem is it’s clunky and shitty tech at the moment with high regulatory prices to pay and overcome.

The idea of making money to use the Internet isn’t far-fetched or even novel. It’s finally possible. Brave offers opt-in/opt-out online advertising. You can make money off of it should you want to, but you don’t have to. Win/win. Any retard can see the appeal, it’s just a matter of whether they can make it not clunky/shitty and make it actually work.

>>25517830
Absolutely exquisite anon.

I accidentally have 11k BAT from enabling it on my sites and linking to the browser when they paid out bats for that.

Am I gonna make it?

>>25517867
Weak argument, but you know that.

Why would anybody pay me to watch an ad? The ad pays for the content to be produced/delivered to me with no additional cost to me. Where does the value come from, if I get the content *and* the ad revenue?

Free content: pay for it by watching ads.
Paywalled content: pay for it with money.

Sure, if someone (for example Thiel) thinks this a nice unregistered security pump and dump and someone else is going to be the fall guy, I might back it somehow. But I would have to know, that that's some Münchhausen BS, who's pulling himself out of a swamp by his own hair.

>>25517952
Thank you sir.

>>25517867
Holy shit another retarded post by you. Brave != BAT. He didn't buy BAT, he owns stock in Brave. He also owned Bitcoin (not sure if he is still holding) so he clearly is interested in cryptocurrencies that are not BAT. If he thought BAT was good, he would have some wouldn't he?

people still think this shitcoin will pump? no one even gets rewards anymore

>>25518143
>The ad pays for the content to be produced/delivered to me with no additional cost to me

On Washington Post or Twitch or Men's Health or wherever the fuck, yes. This is a browser. Advertisers get higher click-through rates using Brave because it has (optional) targeted ads.

>>25518143
It's for your attention dumb fuck and it's happening right now as I spoonfeed you. I'm literally getting bat right now answering your banal questions. This concept has been around for years. It's finally happening in your lifetime. You are being paid for your ATTENTION. Hence basic attention token. High quality adverts tailored to an audience who wants to see them brave has the highest click through rate of any advertising platform.

>>25517867
Sage. And wait.

>>25517948
Alright, so Brave has, say 100M users.

Coca-Cola Inc. wants to buy ads to be displayed to these 100M users and gives Brave Inc. $10M.

Now I'm a Brave user. I can now do what? Do I have the choice to:
A) Watch the ad
B) Don't watch the ad
?
And if I chose A), I get a cut from the $10M in the form of BAT?

But if most users are dumbasses anyway (I agree btw) who won't install adblock, why would Coca-Cola Inc. do that? They can just buy ads the usual way and that would be cheaper, at least by the margin of the user-cut, compared to Brave, right?

>>25518143
This has to be bait. No way someone could be this dumb on purpose.

>>25518356
ant

>>25518438
How much an hour do you make that way?

>>25518243
But anon BAT and Brave are, and will always be, tightly coupled. It stands to reason that if Brave does well BAT does well. Why are you being so dense. Just sell all your BAT and never look at the price again. Are you the guy who's ex wife made a bunch of money on BAT?

> he told me he saged

That's now how 4channel works dum dum

>>25510359
>And after getting spammed 5x per hour with ads for the last two years, I've received $18 worth of BAT rewards.
I got $2k for a tiny text link that installed like 5-20 brave browsers a day

>>25518668
again no response to what I said, the cope is fascinating. Peter Thiel doesn't own the coin, why are you mentioning him?

>tightly coupled
One has exponential growth, the other has flat-lined. Do you know what coupled means?

> he told me he saged
what are you talking about? I didn't sage anything you retard

>>25517906
>>25517953
>>25518043
Good to see you keeping up the tradition, lad.

>>25518821
Pure larp.

>>25518960
Nope. Rewards paid something like $3 to $10 per install depending on country.

>>25518608
It's irrelevant. I have a full time job in stem. I don't use brave opt in adverts to make money lmao. You must be young, or from a 2nd/3rd world country. I make a small amount of bat I can tip, save or cash out each month for literally ZERO work. I had to be served a few advert notifications for things I'm already interested in. Again, literally zero work for free money. Earn rate will increase once pub adverts come online anyway. But I'm not particularly bothered about how much I 'make' - only Indians are on the brave subr*ddit.

>>25518567
I’m a wagecuck waging right now so I can’t answer this in detail, but I think the idea is that Brave ads target user attention “better” than other fraudulent click bait online ads. Your Brave ad is (allegedly) more powerful or relevant when an Internet user 1) knows they’re being compensated to see it and 2) agreed to see it.

This is all theoretical and unproven. It’s Brave’s job to prove this. You’re absolutely right that not all those Brave users are opting into ads, so if Coca Cola is spending 10m on a Brave ad campaign, they’re probably being briefed by Brave about the numbers because anything else would also be fraud. However the fact of the matter that Internet users can now get paid (their due share) for allowing online advertising is self explanatory

>>25518930
Sorry wrong anon. Yes I am well aware Thiel didn't buy BAT but you're being obtuse when you assume that it wasn't one of the defining factors when his fund backed Brave. And they're coupled in the sense that Brave will always use BAT, read the whitepaper. You can't tell me that once they start pushing BAT hard that the price isn't going to increase.

>>25519073
Ya only if they used it after a month. And even if you were able to get credit for the installs there's no way you wouldn't have been flagged. Show proof or your mother dies in her sleep tonight.

>>25509762
If I can get out at the top, yes. It's a guaranteed 4x.

>>25518959
You always win. Imma do some digging now.

>>25519240
I'm up to almost 30tbs from work. I literally can post for years on end. Its not a competition lad, its about supporting the cause which you do well.

>>25519094
Okay, thanks for confirming the pointlessness of BAT, as I stated in my initial post.

>>25519192
>wouldn't have been flagged.
Flagged for what? They paid BATs to advertise them and get them installs, I added a link to my sites, that's how it was supposed to work.

>>25519468
It's ok you can leave now.

>>25519480
Oh my bad anon. I thought you meant YOU were scamming them, not that people were using the referral link. My bad senpai. Glad to hear it.

>>25509424
Just bought litecoin, feeling good about this.

>>25519564
Np

Anyone know of anything to shill now that the referral program is over? I tried VPN but it's making like $50 a month despite getting a lot of clicks. I think the VPN industry is shady af and doesn't report all the sales desu.

>>25508275
I'm Batman

>>25519682
Not at the moment. You run ads on your site?

>>25519406
Friendly compeTITions is always fun Based Brapper Bro. I just have a hard time finding gifs under 4mb

>>25519944
Just a text link at the bottom of the articles, fuck giving them free data on my visitors.

>>25520100
Based. Ever try affiliate linking?

>>25520143
Only VPN so far other than Brave. I emailed some gun shops and asked if they're interested (they're banned from advertising on 99% of the internet) but didn't get a response.

>>25520216
That's a good idea. Thinking outside the box.

>>25509114
wish it wasn't tied to brave browser and you could get free shitcoins from a browser plugin instead

dear bat holders... nothing will change now. Let it rest. The time will come. You are not helping yourselves right now.

>>25520529
OP here; I don't actually hold BAT. This is all an elaborate ploy for me to farm curated brappers- don't worry.

>>25520488
That's the plan in the future.

>>25520005
There's a ton of free tools you can use to compress gifs and webms. I can post a few later. Pics are good too. One Saturday we will have a thotoff and just post for hours.

>>25520586
I dump pretty much every Saturday. I rarely post during the week so just lurk Saturday threads if you want guaranteed thots

>>25520529
I cannot rest I must help brave

>>25508275
And I... am Iron Hands

I use Brave and never bothered to use the BATs, always thought it was just a points system like miles not actual crypto. I got 15 BAT and didn't even realize! That's a shit ton of money!

Thank you Brave, very cool!

>>25521055
who

>>25521591
thotianna thotson

3,000

Regret not selling often.

We shall see

>>25519468
kek you are either legit retarded or trolling.

>>25520231
this meme is awesome

>>25521721
this

>>25522176
Cheers fren.

>>25522431
do you have the meme where its brendan showing his feet? that one killed me when i saw it

>>25522633
Nah lol this is as close as I have.

>>25522700
haha thats just as good cheers bro

>>25522762
I've been busy lol

>>25521591
I have more of her; just have to find them. Stick around maybe or ask me in the Sat BAT thread.

>>25523024
This is a masterpiece.

>>25521721
kek

>>25508275
>Started using Brave in march
>Have about 230 BAT now
>it's split between three computers
>I probably owe the irs anyway
BAT is my first experience with crypto so don't know whatI'm doing that well.
I do think BAT is the future of advertising though.

>>25523437
based. if you make an uphold account you can link it all to one place. brave are releasing other exchange intergration like gemini which is allegedly good - i don't know much about it.

cool update from the man himself

>>25523961

>>25524073
Is that the cameron everyone talks about?

>>25524423
yep

>>25524713
what a fucking schizo

>>25525115
he is completely unhinged. i only know of him from anecdotes other people post on here. he had another twitter account and also posted on reddit for ages about bat. allegedly he has sold and rebought a stack many a time.

a technique might be you buy when he sells, and sell when he buys

>>25525227
His twitter ramblings make no sense. I was just reading the thread between him and sampson and its embarrassing. I'm surprised they give him the time of day anymore.

https://twitter.com/shiicoinprotips/status/1345759103306620928

>>25525115
I was thinking this as well. How is this wrong though?

>>25525279
for someone who hates brave it really sits in his mind rent free.

>>25525329
because people don't give the full story with XRP. XRP is being investigated in relation to their ICO, however this has been triggered by their founders selling some astronomical amount of their personal XRP holdings into the market. I believe its in the ranks of hundreds of millions each into their personal accounts.

brave users the UGP to fund the business. they are completely diametrically opposed. for some reason the XRP ICO SEC investigation creeps into bat threads. Its one of the most legally compliant coins and businesses there are. Brendan made a lot of comments about this and SEC compliance back years ago on reddit.

>>25525475
XRP does not pass the Howey Test. It is not a security. The person who brought the lawsuit has a hard on for XRP and filed it the day he left office.

>>25525895
I'm not an XRP holder nor follower. Just trying to fill in the gaps for BAT enthusiasts who people try to shake out using the XRP SEC fud by saying because BAT had an ICO it makes it immediately susceptible to being investigated by the SEC.

It sounds like a good sign for XRP holders though if it doesn't pass the Howey.