/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25339259
the latter. faang is overvalued too. they will correct and money will flood to commodities

Tesla is probably overvalued. But them being the future of EV is priced in, that's why their valuation is so high. And to be honest, I think they are the future of EV. Their cars are objectively better than any other EV options out there. They are the Apple of the car market
>>25339282
faang is definitely not overvalued. They make so much goddamn money

>>25339259
>or a WeWork situation with overvaluation
what the fuck do you think
the cars are really shitty an somehow his company is worth more than all of the competition combined? lol

>>25339282
>. faang is overvalued too.
By what metric or intuition?

>>25339346
I mean you can argue that they are overvalued but you can't argue their cars are shitty.

>>25339363
>faang
are you serious? have you ever seen one up close or driven one? the build quality is laughable

>>25339320
>Tesla is probably overvalued. But them being the future of EV is priced in, that's why their valuation is so high. And to be honest, I think they are the future of EV. Their cars are objectively better than any other EV options out there. They are the Apple of the car market

Sure, mate. Give a European company a year on a real broad market for EV and your shitty TESLA looks like one of these children bobby cars.

>>25339398
I have driven one, its objectively an amazing car dude. You can't possibly be that deluded

>>25339259
Elon is an African welfare queen.
Always has been

>>25339425
If a better Euro option was coming it would have come by now. Tesla is early and best. Sure maybe some drive better but in terms of look and quality? Tesla is and will continue to be the best option. Not to mention the equity opportunities in america far outweigh europe

The reason the fang stocks are so overvalued is because they have been secretly accumulating bitcoin and insiders are using them as a store of value.

>>25339469
>If a better Euro option was coming it would have come by now. Tesla is early and best. Sure maybe some drive better but in terms of look and quality? Tesla is and will continue to be the best option. Not to mention the equity opportunities in america far outweigh europe

They don't bc the market is not broad enough yet. Tesla is like an iPhone, you are right in that regard: It is for shitty posers, who want to flex their money. That is it. It is overvalued and their cars are a Toy for man children.

>>25339522
so uhh.. how much money exactly have you lost shorting tsla?

>>25339425
Why don’t they just fucking do it then

>>25339522
I mean this is just a plain stupid take. The car is genuinely top of the heap in terms of tech safety and features, that is indisputable. And the market is definitely broad enough lmfao look at the success of tesla. The market is probably even larger in europe. But No european company has come or will come out with a better option because tesla is so ahead of the curve. And they can't scale like tesla can unless they base their operation in the US, which some will probably end up doing.

>>25339432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0r-vC-RHkU
$70k
compare this with japanese or german car in similar price range
fuck even mustang has less issus

>>25339259
Bezos isn't the richest man not even close

>instrumental in tech slavery of the planet
Anon, capitalism os already over. The new global standard, XRP, is the end of the capitalist era.

>>25339522
Based

>>25339259
>how does one do this?
daddy's money and corporate welfare

>>25339618
A clickbaity title from a single dude whos looking to get views from a controversial take... jesus christ dude. Look up actual official reviews of the car it'll tell the real story.

>>25339562
>so uhh.. how much money exactly have you lost shorting tsla

Not a single cent, I am holding, I just know that every European company can make better cars than any US company. Someone tell Elon most people don't need Extras in their car. Most people just drive them to work and back, which if Europe should at any point actually invest into real Electric charging stations, will be the norm. But yeah, keep selling me your Apple product. I wait for something a little more...useful and broad appealing?

>>25339259

>>25339259
You do know that Amazon was unable to make a profit for many years in order to beat their competition, right?

>>25339626
He is the richest living man who ever worked, though

>>25339522
>>25339661
who cares? it makes line go up in my bank account

why are you guys obsessed with aesthetics just buy the stock it makes you money

>>25339626
richest man publically*

We all know who's really about to be the richest

>>25339662
I'm not a musk virgin fanboy but this is an autistic take
>>25339680
Euro car companies tend to be better than US car companies. But with EV? It is not even fucking close. I can't even name the largest EV company in the EU. And again, Tesla is legitimately an amazing car. The tech is way ahead anything out of europe at the moment, which is to be expected.

>>25339680
anon, I..

>>25339669
jesus just search youtube, there are 100s of videos
my model 3 had most of those and more, including water getting trapped in rear lights and fucked up seals, people blame it on the fact that it was new and tesla was new to manufacturing so some issues were expected back then but that's bullshit, this still happens in new models in 2020

>>25339701
Tesla doesn't have real competition. People dont want just electric cars, they want TESLAS. Also they wouldn't even be able to make a profit if they tried.

>>25339740
Hes a euro, he's just upset at europes increasing irrelevancy in the global market

>>25339776
And can you show me any legitimate proof of this? And if this problem is so widespread why does tesla continue to sell more and more cars every single quarter? And how are you going to cite youtube videos as fucking evidence? Brainless

>>25339259
The dude literally just wants to go to space

>>25339776
>Just search for the videos anon!!! I swear it's a piece of crap! REEEEE!!!

>>25339825
he wants to make money from space, he doesn't just want to go to space

>>25339618
who the fuck cares about panel gaps, its as useful as looking for panel gaps on a computer case. as long as it doesnt leak its fine

>>25339839
lmfao but dude muh youtube videos

>>25339848
Well according to him he wants to go to space to ensure humanity's survival, but he concedes that he can't afford to do that on his own so he needs to build a profitable business that will do that on top of making money.

>>25339776
I own a 3 and you are exaggerating. They wouldn't be selling this many if it was that bad. Just shut the fuck up and take it to the service center

>>25339398
>laughable
Based on?
They have done very well as high mileage vehicles

>>25339425
Cope from a Eurocuck. The only Yuro tech company worth a damn is Spotify.

>>25339425
Ah yes Europe's world renowned tech sector will surely innovate this one.

>>25339259
Neither. Wework was a real estate management company larping as a tech company. Elon is a tech larping as a human.

>>25339957
exactly, europe, the bastion of tech innovation lmfao

>>25339737
>Euro car companies tend to be better than US car companies. But with EV? It is not even fucking close. I can't even name the largest EV company in the EU. And again, Tesla is legitimately an amazing car. The tech is way ahead anything out of europe at the moment, which is to be expected.

Bc they don't do it. They pour some money into it bc they get EU grants. To sell EV cars sucessfully, you would need a high adoption in EV charging stations and Europe doesn't have that, so why would the companies burn themselves if they can just wait till it is more economically viable for the average Jimmy, which needs government spending first.
You can sell all kinds of shit to retarded rich posers. Elon is good at burning money. But idk if you knew, the first guy with the innovation isn't always the one who comes out on top.

>>25339957
>Ah yes Europe's world renowned tech sector will surely innovate this one.

We make 100x better cars than any of you, Amerifatzos. Nobody here drives an American car. And the Tesla's we buy only explode.

Tesla is pumping because they are about to put 5 billion of bitcoin on their balance sheet. People are using it as a store of value.

>>25339848
He wants to establish an independent thriving Mars. He's exploiting globohomo money to get there, then once he's there he'll tell them to fuck themselves.

>stock goes 15x since 2014
>everyone losing their shit
>shitcoins have gone 20x this summer
>BTC over 100x since 2014
normies btfo

>>25339259
I'd rather based Muskie gets money than Bozos. At least the Musk wants to actually do something cool with his money. The rest of the billionaire club just engage in thinly veiled money laundering through art pieces and act like we should forgive their greed because they give ten salvation army blankets to africa once a year.

Daily reminder that Elon has sold two cars that dont exist and probably wont for a long time. He cashed the checks for from the Roadster presale but thats nowhere to be seen and not a peepe about it. He let people preorder the Cybertruck, not a peep about that since its retarded PR release. And you know the cybertruck is definitely a fucking scam since it's been in every fucking rap video since then.
Or the Neuralink? anyone remember that? how Elons gonna stick a buttplug in your brain and stream music? What thats not avaliable or even close to being market ready this decade?
Or fucking colonizing mars which hes always on about? sold all his posessiosn to get us to Mars? And SpaceX is still Botching launches.
Or Starlink? Supposedly blowing away beta tests but uhh... are we any closr to ever fucking using it?

Stop falling for this retarded conman. Even after stealing body designs from Porsche and Lotus he still cant make a car that doesn't leak like fuck or last more miles than any other shit tier EV. It's a sedan shoved full of batteries. Batteries that are closer to being obsolete by the way since non ion Lithium batteries have been in experimental stages for a fucking decade that will make tesla range as is look like a fucking joke.

At least Trump was a funny conman and did based shit like launder money through shell corps, Elons jsut annoying as fuck on twitter and does stupid scams that his fanboys eat the fuck up. Kill yourselves tesla fags I'll stick to my fucking ICE until I die.

>>25340034
>Nobody here drives an American car
gawd you're embarrassing to behold anon, you're making me cringe

>>25339425
tesla is the only one that can make enough GwHs to cope with vehicle demand

>>25340034
Dude they don't do it because they don't have a better product. If you think that Tesla had an easier time with EV adoption than Europe will you are insane the EU is way more green friendly. And lol sure you make better gas cars, luckily those are things of the past. The tech required for EV cars gives the US an edge. And again to pretend like there isn't a market for EV cars in europe is insane you just haven't been able to make a pure EV company nearly as good or competitive as tesla. And while you wait for it to become more "economically viable" (which it would be if a company actually made a product as good as teslas) Tesla will continue to become more and more adopted and widespread in europe, as it has increasingly been for the last couple quarters. Europe just doesn't have the tech base the US has, and that's ok we'll export you our ev cars it's no problem

>>25340034
You make overengineered vehicles that cost a fortune at the mechanics and lose 50% of their market value after driving it off the lot. VW is considering EV and they still wouldn't compare.

>>25339259
Tesla is overvalued, but there is some truth to Tesla's success.
They have a different manufacturing model than most auto makers: build their own parts rather than outsource, allowing them to get more involved in designs and iterate on improvements more quickly.
Their software innovation is also much faster: teslas receive regular updates: something no other car manufacturer has been able to achieve.
there's one other thing I'll mention. They're far more willing to take risks, even risks with legal repercussions. Tesla cars ARE more dangerous than most. They don't give a fuck because they usually have environmentalist faggots in the government pulling for them and they simply want to make cars.

>>25340103
who could be behind this post?

>>25340152
yep

Tesla is proof that our economy isn’t real. Most people realize that a lot of office jobs are fake work to keep the plebs busy, but they haven’t made the logical leap that most businesses are fake businesses. The fed allows the banks to make loans and prints money out of thin air to cover the loans. These loans are given to companies that do what the people who own the fed and the banks want them to do. Since there is infinite money and money isn’t real this goes on forever.

Musk doesn’t sell products, he sells perception. Gay stunts like putting a car in orbit get eaten up by people who want to feel like their helping create the future. And because everyone is gay and retarded but they want to fee educated and productive, they buy Tesla stock every time they can. In this way perception becomes real even if there’s nothing there.

>>25340200
>Musk doesn’t sell products
lol

>>25340200
A respectable economics opinion on this board, wow.
However, if Americans and American companies haven't realized that 80% of their economy is fake by now, they never will. Even if you completely correct, that most jobs are meaningless busywork to inflate corporate numbers, and that most corporations are pseudo-governmental shells that peddle products with no intrinsic value, it won't stop people from emotionally detaching value from their work. It's a basic value attribution fallacy and as long as we have people laboring, we will have people who ascribe value to the goods produced from that labor, even if they don't materially improve their lives.

>>25340347
>>25340347
>>25340200
>>25340200
Holy based. I concur

>$658 B market cap
>1,376 P/E ratio

>>25339282
The commodities bullrun is already beginning. Bloomberg commodities index just broke a 12 year resistance.
t. Actual commodity trader (no I won't say which one)

>>25340512
basedbeans

>>25340512
>no I won't say which one
like we give a shit, go shill your crap in a relevant thread

>>25340200
Based. Although, it goes way beyond just economics and business. The plebs are so purposeless in life that they cling on to literally anything that makes them feel like a valuable part of society. Take BLM for example. How many roasties, faggots, and niggers posted a black square on "blackout tuesday"? These useless leeches of society know that they are mere sheep, and easily trick themselves into thinking that being a part of this movement, they are providing value to society. When in reality, they are being controlled like a group of herded cattle.

>>25340500
OVERVALUED PIECE OF SHIT

>>25340538
>shill
Sorry mate, pros only. Yours in none.

>>25340512
>(no I won't say which one)
It's it pigs? It's pigs isn't it

>>25340538
theres no need to 'shill' commodities anon, this shit is happening without you

>>25339259
This is modern corporate communism. Tesla gets its stock price jacked by Fed intervention giving it stimulus to keep doing unprofitable things that would normally sink a company. Tesla is just an arm of the military industrial capitalist communist neoliberal anarcho-tyrannous oligarchy that we live under

>>25340500
>>25340570
god seeing you absolute brainlets seething over missing out on tsla just makes me want to go buy more

>>25340599
>Yours in none
what did he mean by this?
>>25340606
Then why on god's green earth are you blathering about it in a Tesla thread?

>>25340347
It’s true that people will never wake up. But think about this for a second. Money, influence, and information are all parts of what it means to have power. And power is what it’s all about. Look at unicorns like Snapchat or tiktok. They don’t make any real money, but they’re essential information and influence infrastructure. It’s okay to burn money (which isn’t real) in exchange for information and influence. So when you’re looking into these companies and they seem fake and gay, double back and ask yourself if they provide something essential to the oligarchs. Look at beyond meat. A fake food company that came out of nowhere and had distribution contracts with all the major fast food chains. Not only that, but COVID, the event that destroyed the restaurant industry, had no negative effect on bynd price. That shouldn’t have happened. In a real world fake meat that can’t be sold because all the restaurants are closed shouldn’t go up in value. But it did, so that tells us it was about an unspoken service they provide to the oligarchs, such as easing the population into eating fake food. I’m unironically keeping my eyes peeled for a company that sells insect protein products and if I find it before it pops I’m going all in.

>>25340646
go all in bro! might as well use maximum leverage too! it's not like its a massively overvalued piece of shit that has already gone 7x in the last twelve months, its not like the enormous gains seen by initial investors wont be repeated, its not like the initial investors wont cash out they're obscene returns on unsuspecting bagholders haha

>>25340718
seethe and cope - the post

>>25340512
Don't commodities fall during a recession?

>>25340512
Are dogs a commodity?

>>25340695
That's fair, power is intangible and unquantifiable (arguably) but tech companies have tons of it.
> keeping my eyes peeled for a company that sells insect protein products
Unironically shill it here if you find one, I may buy.

>>25340774
In Korea maybe

>>25340347
>most jobs are meaningless busywork to inflate corporate numbers
I believe that's what the Great Reset is about. It's about getting all of those people onto UBI so they can be directly given a stipend to amuse themselves with. The trick will be to get people to be content with an unproductive way of life.

>>25340738
not an argument - the cope

>>25340775
I will. It’s clear as day they are angling in that direction with predictive programming in shit like Snowpiercer. The other angle I’m keeping an eye out for is themed dormitory housing. Basically soi projects where you live in a pod stacked on other pods and you do summer camp style activities to ease the desperate loneliness and emptiness of post urban life.

>>25340851
My bank account is the only argument I need seething dweeb
imagine being so sour you'd go to a thread about a stock you missed out on just to whine

>>25340512
Jeff Currie of Jewman Sachs concurs.

>>25340347
Case in point, LVMH

>>25340775
>>25340858
So you guys recognize when a company is supporting the interest of the oligarchs in such heinous ways as Snowpiercer style bug feed or pod farms and you decide you'll financially support it by buying the stock? Obviously buying the stock doesn't give money directly to the company but higher prices means they feel more able to dilute shares and raise more capital for their activities by doing so. The price wouldn't be positively manipulated if it wasn't helping to serve the companies' purpose but you just decide to help them out? Scum.

>>25339259
Imagine still thinking about profit in terms of consumer-dollar denominated product output. Tesla is fundamentally changing the transportation industry and forcing all related businesses and industries to follow its lead.

>>25340976
You miss the point. Money isn’t real. The fed prints it out of thin air, then the banks loan it out to these companies. With infinite money they can’t be stopped. The only thing we can do is catch the tide and increase our own personal power. That’s what facing reality is about. You can’t help anyone, not even yourself, if you lack the power to do so. If they’re being as transparent as I think they are, you’re damn right I’m going to hitch a ride.

>>25339259
I heard he's selling all his DOGE in January to get into Mimblewimble shit. My best is EPIC.

>>25340552
based. funnier still that the blackout square thing was literally information war 101 - keep real images of happenings away from social media and replace with a literal black square. this helps to direct protests instead of allowing them to organically direct themselves. also helps cover up possible glow activities

>>25341094
I understand that mindset and I have been tempted to do so myself, but what is the point at which you join the enemy? Obviously it's just a drop in the bucket, but buying a stock still is grassroots support for their scheme which they would otherwise have to tax the population with inflation to pay for. Buying cucked stocks does make the world worse and it delays the collapse that the unsustainability of it all inevitably will end in. The problem is nobody sees the Fed intervention like we do so everybody thinks economic/business "cycles" is just a natural part of society and cucked stocks with high prices are just what the market prices those companies at and approves of them. Pretty clever stealthy way of implementing communism imo

>>25340034
>Nobody here drives an American car.
Because taxes

>>25340976
Exactly what >>25341094 said. I've been trying to redpill people for years but most are content to hustle for "FAANG" jobs as their apartments get smaller and cost of living increases. Most of my normie friends are in their late 20s/early 30s and it hasn't dawned on them that the system is rigged against them, that they aren't the main character and that things aren't going to automatically work out for them.
I've decided to not try anymore and to continue to work the system to my advantage as best I can. Apparently telling the truth about the media and financial system makes you a member of the lunatic fringe now - it insults people to think that they are paid with borrowed monopoly money. At least there are some decent mainstream youtubers like ColdFusion now that are speaking up.
Also, I am full accelerationist at this point. Chaos brings opportunity for little guys, it's like getting a blue shell when you're last in the race. Change is never comfortable but it's most uncomfortable for those at the top.

>>25341301
>but what is the point at which you join the enemy?
quit your virtue signalling faggotry. the sooner you realize how stacked the chips are against normal people, the sooner you can start playing the game and taking your life into your own hands

>>25341301
Sitting on the sidelines and refusing to participate based on your morals accomplishes nothing. People are never going to wake up. Each generation is weaker than the last. They eat the bugs and live in the pods and they’ll give up all their other freedoms and if you dare to point this out they’ll lynch you for noticing.

I don’t have the power to stop this in the same way I can’t stop the rotation of the earth. All I can do is acquire the necessary resources and influence to protect myself and a few others. Refusing to do so based on principle means I’m just adding my name to the victims list.

>>25341371
>>25341344
You are literally communists. You don't know it, but you are. You are the problem. The red terror that the boomers were so paranoid about is here and you are it

>>25340187
>if you dont worship this billionaire youre a NWO shill
kill yourself. hes a billionaire like any other theyre all NWO or kabal or whatever you choose to believe it is. Hes literally laughing at you fanboys with that headline quote.

>>25339282
Yeah I was shilling UUUU for months in /pmg/ then on /smg/. Made the memes because I knew momentum was coming for it. Same thing in lithium (I shilled LAC but sold way too early). Buy MNXXF. Tesla wants to replace his batteries with Manganese. Also invest in companies that recycle batteries. ABML. Will be much needed. Gold and silver are also attractive. My normie-ish friend told me this past weekend he wanted to buy silver. It’s happening.

>>25341406
call me whatever you want. stay poor and miserable while I work my way freedom, sociopathically laughing at the brainless peasants below me

>>25341406
Communism is just capitalism entrenched by the state.
Despite what you say, I live an extremely comfortable existence and have made bank over the past year, I am completely fine with this status quo if it continue.
People in positions of power did this to themselves. I didn't do anything.

>>25341094
very much appreciate your posts anon
what do you think about the role of cannabis? it seems like a logical extension of the pharmaceutical psychotropics as soma angle, same as tinder/online dating.
inducing from above, it seems like every ideologically "ripe" experience and concept space will undergo the iterative commodification cycle. is this really the cheat code?

>>25341484
s/Tesla/Elon

>>25341491
>>25341502
Something something live long enough to see yourself become the villain

>>25341406
>>25341502
Let me put it this way:
I am not a capitalist. I'm not a communist. I am an opportunist that is well positioned, regardless of the outcome of the coming years.

>>25341448

>>25341574
>become the villain
implying i give the slightest shit. like i said, quit the virtue signalling

>>25341600
Lie to yourself all you want, just know what you signed up for

>>25339320
That doesn’t make any sense. None of Apple’s products are better than their competitors.

>>25340879
i didnt make the thread and i dont give a fuck lmao i've seen higher returns than you in just 12 months, without having to baghold some ponzi scheme

anyone not holding hard assets is going to get their asshole torn wide upon. we tried to warn you.

>>25341637
having a shot to dodge the worst of it all?

>>25341662
You have over 100% returns this year?
Nice anon, well done!

>>25341508
Pot is for pacification. But they wouldn’t have made it legal if it hadn’t already run its course. They’re moving to mainstream drug use and pot farms and the sackler family’s oxy are the front runners. The cia probably doesn’t need to run the drug trade anymore, so they’re sacrificing that income in exchange for greater social control.

I not sure what your second point means, but I can tell you that it’s essential to face reality. Things aren’t that complicated. You don’t need a degree in economics. Most of the stuff out their fir public consumption is fake and designed to obfuscate the real economy and the corruption that occurs every day. That’s why crypto is so important. All the scams and rug pulls train you to see the same behavior in the stock market, just covered up with prettier pr and fancy equations.

>>25340034
saddest post Ive ever read, you are a pathetic bastardization of what your people once were

>>25341657
If that is your reasoning disregarding them, you have a lot to learn about business, markets, consoomers and influence. Apple had the benefit of being early, building quality products, leading innovation for years, building a closed ecosystem, continuing to hold this ideal of a clean powerful rich man's product while still being elegant and refined. I'm not saying that's what it is, I'm saying that's how it's sold, and it works - they have so much fucking cash it's not even funny, they literally do not know what to do with it.

>>25341600
>>25341677
Part of the oligarchs' moral/ethical framework is that the magic spells they cast and rituals they perform can only work as long as karmic neutrality is maintained. They can only do what they do with the consent of the governed, so they use predictive programming and revelation of method to inform the people they are performing the spells on to make sure they work. When you buy a cucked onions stock you are literally buying into the scam spell. Their logic (very fair and just logic in fact) is that if the people they are scamming can't figure out they are being scammed despite all the signs they are giving, it is their right to scam such ignorant lowly cattle for their own benefit as the godlike psychopathic beings they are. They deserve it and we deserve it if you keeping buying into their scheme of world domination

>>25341600
>>25341677
Part of the oligarchs' moral/ethical framework is that the magic spells they cast and rituals they perform can only work as long as karmic neutrality is maintained. They can only do what they do with the consent of the governed, so they use predictive programming and revelation of method to inform the people they are performing the spells on to make sure they work. When you buy a cucked $0¥ stock you are literally buying into the scam spell. Their logic (very fair and just logic in fact) is that if the people they are scamming can't figure out they are being scammed despite all the signs they are giving, it is their right to scam such ignorant lowly cattle for their own benefit as the godlike psychopathic beings they are. They deserve it and we deserve it if you keeping buying into their scheme of world domination

>>25341841
why are you still (you)'ing me? fuck off you useless halfwit. I was mostly larping if it makes you sleep better at night.

>>25341579
>BECAUSE HES FUN YON TWITNER AND JOE ROGAN HES NOT EVIL NOOOOOOO

>>25341841
This is true, and I’m glad people are catching on to their methods. However it’s still not a good enough reason to sit out. We each need to acquire as much power as we can in order to get through this.

>>25339425
>a European company
No such thing, you sold them all to Geely.

>>25341969
>>25341906
Buy gold and silver

>>25341801
You said Tesla was the Apple of cars because their cars were objectively superior.

If that’s the case, that Tesla’s cars are objectively superior, then it is impossible for them to be the Apple of cars. Because Apple’s products are objectively inferior. How well they sale has no relation to their quality. Apple products sell well because they’re shiny and they have good market. The actual quality of the products is shit.

>>25339778
This is peak delusion. Tesla's EV market share in China dropped from 20% to 10%.

>>25340512
Which commodities sectors are setting up for bull run? Don’t have access to pc for a couple of weeks so can’t dig in atm but am interested.

>>25342041
Forgot picrel

>>25341927
>is bringing a truck to the market that's very cheap to drive and has a chassis that doesn't rust to shit
>might bring a sedan or suv to the market that's even cheaper to drive with the same chassis
i honestly don't see what's not to love

>ev cars
>when the true future of ev is great quality and green public transport or autonomous taxis.
very feel people will actually own cars in the long run, big cities will ban them eventually.

>>25341406
Sorry buddy but the world is a jungle and there are long standing plans to raise the king, you either know it or you don’t.

Tesla is wildly overvalued but Musk's net worth is underestimated because SpaceX will be a trillion dollar company

>>25339425
Tesla's spent years of research and development to build their EVs. The have been building a network of charging stations, building up their autopilot programs, efficient batteries.

There is no other car company that can compete with Tesla in EV market.

>>25339320
>faang is definitely not overvalued. They make so much goddamn money
Fucking retard detected, share price is not related to a companies performance, the intrinsic value of a share is purely in its dividend. Retards have forgot/never knew what a share actually is and are just buying, hoping on a bigger sucker to buy it off them at a higher price, the only reasons companies care and try to pump their share price is because the board members generally own a lot of them and the C level jobs are paid their bonuses in company shares. The asset itself is massively overinflated

>>25339618
The feature set and the tech is literally beyond the capacity of just about any other car manufacturer in existence right now.

>>25342322
>the intrinsic value of a share is purely in its dividend.
this literally hasn't been true since the 80s at the latest, that's absolute turboboomer economics

>>25342229
based, I hold both link and tsla too

>>25342275
What if I want to go somewhere the bus doesn't go

>>25342162
Outside of what I already deal with, LNG and EU carbon credits seem to be markets to watch. Though some LNG markets have moved a fair bit already and are due a correction.
Hydrogen will be very interesting in the longer term.

>>25342349
That's because the 80s is when boomers started buying stocks and they're the biggest retards imaginable.

>elon musk suddenly dies from a domestic accident
>tesla stocks falls 90%
trusting into 1 single mortal man might be a mistake

>>25342433
>Hydrogen
Methane will be more interesting. Can be combined with carbon capture and made from scratch, thus completely carbon neutral. It's also a LOT easier to store and handle than H2.

>>25342440
You mean like satoshi?

>>25339363
Actually you can. There are several quality benchmarks and standars and they fail to meet everyone of them.

>>25339807
What is marketing? What is apple?

>>25342419
they will probably go once cars are banned from entering big cities. you can rent, get a robo taxi and etc. if you live in a big city and actually really wants to own a car (road trip or something) you will own some sort of garage at huge parking lots outside of the city where you will go to get it and be on your happy trip

>>25340512
please fucking tell me man i’ve always wanted to trade commodities

0xMR 0xMonero

>>25342071
Apple phones are godly it’s just stupid shit like really weak batteries

>>25342611
plz shut up
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>25339259
his ideas make everyone else make stupid amounts of money. that's the best sort of bloke to be around desu

>>25339781
Lmao retard. Tesla will build their cars in Europe.

>>25339259
TESLA actually makes beautiful looking EVs compared to the shit bmw/etc craps. Have you seen their models? They are a complete fucking joke. Tesla is way ahead in terms of battery too. At this point the eurofaggots are trying to catch up, but the tran's left the station years ago. That's why they're seething.

>>25343099
I'd rather get a Volvo.

>>25342550
What's your current gig?
If you're a student get on a grad program.
Getting in directly is highly competitive, especially in the financial hubs (London, Singapore, etc.)

Newfag here should i still get into Tesla or is it capped?

>>25339259
you mean about to be the richest man on Mars

>>25339259
Doesn’t matter, amazon didn’t need profit either, just growth,

>>25342322
shut the fuck up rajesh, you realize half of faang doesn't even issue dividends right? fucking normie