/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25310831
Bankers and anyone wanting to work with them should die in Minecraft.

>>25310831

I’m gonna put £400 into XRP while it’s worth nothing and wait.

>>25310847
I hope they all die in Minecrap also.

>>25310831
i'm assuming most people in the schizo general have only recently gotten into crypto, (not that xrp is even a crypto) they don't remember the bloodbath of 2017 it's lost half it's value in the last 7 days but there emotinally invested so it's unlikely they'll sell, not that it matters much now in anyway, they'll have to get burned, some will leave crypto forever, so will stay and learn from the lesson, it's just the way it goes.

>being mass delisted from legitimate american exchanges
>"this is fine"

You are deluded.

XRP hasn't even dipped that much.

>>25310831
Me and my friends bought the dip at 0.18 cents. We're still laughing about how much it crashed when it just got banned from a shit trading website.

I think we'll bail out the day Binance takes it out.

>>25310831
Scam.

>>25310964
it hasn't seen this price since 2017. I wouldn't even bother selling now unless you got in a 50/60, might as well ride it to the bottom on the off chance it moons wouldn't get my hopes up though.

>>25310831
Well if the chief scammer confirmed everything is fine then everything is fine. Good to know.

>>25310831
Bags packed.
Shut down trading please.
See you in 2021.

>>25311089
>Well if the chief scammer confirmed everything is fine then everything is fine
That worked for OneCoin, didn't it? Oh, wait...

>>25310847
>uses globohomo infrastructure to pass around 100% traceable 1s and 0s
>is fighting them
Honey, you ain't special.

>>25311129
>doesn't understand how decentralization works
kek

see you at 16 cents

>>25310929
>2017
XRP chart looks like a thousand other charts.
You know how many things sat at a very low price for a long time, them mooned, then came back slowly?
Literally everything moron.
Look at ETH chart.
Same thing.

Funny thing is, the fate of XPR (and it's price) is coming down to EXACTLY what the schizos said.
If it's first through the door and wins the lawsuit, there is a moon mission and everyone knows it.
I'm fine to wait and see. Won't kill me either way.
But the schizos are fare more accurate than anyone here and the threads have massive amounts of info in them on actual financial news unlike basically any others threads.

>>25311123
Still can't believe this fat donut managed to scam billions in dozens of countries.
I guess people want to believe and some are good at creating and exploiting personality cults.

>>25310831
Couldn't pay me to buy this nuclear waste of a coin.

>>25311185
lel sure, enjoying this month's close below last month's

>>25311159
Does it work with magic?
Or does it go through tubes owned by globohomo using networks created and maintained by globohomo.
You are a teenager right?

>>25311185
>XRP chart looks like a thousand other charts
Does it?

>>25311250
all ceos and executives could be killed and workers will still be able to maintain and keep national and global infrastructure running lmao

>>25311229
No.
This is what the schizos have been saying.
I've read the schizos.
I have a bag and it won't hurt me if it goes to zero.

You don't want to address anything because you have nothing to say.
If they win the suit, it will moon.
They will essentially be the ONLY safe product in their space.
This has been used in the past for this very same thing.
FIRST THROUGH THE DOOR.

Maybe not, but it is down to what schizos have been posting about for years.
They are either 100% right or 100% wrong.
But they have far more "logic" than most here.

You think the US is going to put it's main option out of business? So they can let decentralized stuff rule?
That would be weird to me.
We'll see.

>>25311262
>cuts off year long flat
>doesn't compare to ETH
Charts have different timings, but basically every "coin" and token has sits flat, runs up, levels out, then gains if it's worth anything.
XRP hasn't had those gains.
But if it wins the lawsuit it sure as hell will.

>>25311250
Yes, anon. The Internet is a magic series of tubes and the ptb can filter out anything they want at any time, except for child porn apparently. You really have no idea what you're talking about, but that's pretty normal for an XRP 'investor'
Learn about what steganography is and then get back to me. Information on a p2p network is extremely difficult to censor.

Less exchanges more easy to manipulate it. Everybody forgot BSV delist?

>>25311298
>workers will still be able to maintain and keep national and global infrastructure running
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Now that I'm done laughing.
This is irrelevant.
You CURRENTLY are just piggy backing on their system that they control 100%.
ONE
HUNDRED
PERCENT
They know EVERYTHING you have and EVERYTHING you do.
Please just consider this and move on.

PS - Workers do as told and literally can't
t. 15-20 employees

>>25311185
I was there in 2017 when everything mooned, an unlike most other coins XRP never reached anything near it's all time high again, it's crabbed for three years had a small pump and then dumpped to level's not seen since before 2017 bullrun, major players halting trading and the SEC aren't even going to have a look at case until febuary, I know shits emotional now, but you souldn't let that cloud your judgement, it's probably too late anyway, prepare to hold those bags for another two years, but next time it does pump make sure you sell, things eventually crash then get back in.

>>25310929
Dr! I see NPCs, everywhere

>>25311312
cope moar, you are all going to get rekt

>>25311343
>steganography
lmao
Like you right?
I was a mathlete and studied cryptography for years.
I took the SAT math in 6th grade by myself in a room and got a plaque for beating all the other smart kids but two pajeets in STL.

You are not doing anything they don't know about.
It can all be deduced from extraneous data and all the other stupid shit you do on your devices.
Typing on here for one.

>>25311123
"Financially independently!"

>>25311386
>never reached
Yes. I won't argue reality. This is reality.
HOWEVER, if they win the lawsuit...wait two months and compare the charts.

The POINT is that the huge sell off in 2017 for XRP is nothing other tokens and "coins" didn't experience.
ETH is still at half it's 2017 run up probably. I forget.

XRP hit nearly .7.
If they win the lawsuit and get to 1.5 then they are EQUAL TO ETH as far as 2017-2021 drop.
We'll see.

I just like quibbling and I try to understand the irrational hate of XRP.
>inb4 not a crypto
Neither are stocks and people buy them and get rich.

>>25311411
The point you are seemingly blind to is that XRP just shills the ideas of banks paying to get on their network. In reality, when banks have participated in pilot programs, they haven't had to market buy XRP and probably never will.
Conversely, institutions actually are buying BTC and ETH. That's what's been driving the price up. What XRP pretends to be, distributed crypto actually is - networks for storing and moving value that are worth paying for.

>>25311405
So literally no response.
I can't get rekt.
I'm extremely successful and have .01% of my wealth in crypto as just a way to follow world happenings.

>>25311480
>seemingly blind to is that XRP just shills the ideas of banks paying to get on their network
Yes. I have noticed this.
What you are blind to is that if the SEC clears them, this becomes very likely.

To me the appeal of XRP is just the technology. It's extremely useful and therefore will be used.
I also know how the world tends to work...that is...insiders choose the winners and losers.

I see the US and China kicking up shit with each other.
I see BTC being run by Chinks.
I don't see the USA stomping out it's own thing.

>>25311371
Buddy I work in both telecommunications and power. Communications network, internet and mobile, can be maintained and built by bogans and designed by pakis with a 2 year degree. Same goes for the grid.

>>25310831
Wait. You guys did sell after the snapshot right?

>>25311522
>It's extremely useful and therefore will be used
said the betamax buyer.... sorry for your loss. get out now. buy index funds. this aint for you.

>>25311523
Yes. You can do that with someone telling you what to do.
Start a business and you'll realize you are a cat someone is trying to herd.

Will these cats you plan to herd maintain the infrastructure for free? Who will pay them?
You are at the whim of the global financial elite more with any "crypto" than you are with cash.
Will some of us make it?
Yes.
Everyone else is progressively more fucked and no, they can't maintain the tele infrastructure.

>>25311522
>To me the appeal of XRP is just the technology
Really? What specifically about XRP's technology makes it impressive to you? Centralized systems can process data at extremely fast speeds, but the trade-off is that you have to trust the operators of the system. The genius of distributed crypto is that the assumption is everyone is trying to screw everyone else all the time, and yet the system still works. That's what "trustless" means, and bluepilled normies aren't wired to understand that.
So what about their technology is so great? Pitch it to me. I have millions in crypto. If you convince me, then maybe I'll buy some, but only if I hear a compelling argument.

>>25311564
Where is XRP now? I don't look every day?
A quarter or a little lower?
>looks
Yea, I'm basically even and have no strong feelings.
Trying to have a logical discussion mate.

Why are XRP haters so afraid of actual discussion?
IT IS VERY WEIRD.

>>25310831
are you retarded or something? it's getting delisted....

>>25311485
enjoy your larp schizo

>>25311574
This is some peak autism

>>25311587
>The genius of distributed crypto is that the assumption is everyone is trying to screw everyone else all the time
Yes. I agree.
This is where the disconnect seems to be.
A lot of people see crypto as freeing us from the banks.
It may eventually and I believe probably everything you believe about it.

HOWEVER we live in the here and now. Do the banks want that?
Who wants that?
The plebs?
Things change slowly and steadily.
XRP is useful to centralized authorities.
That is what I am speculating on.

I have this same convo a lot.
I don't disagree with your points.
I just think they are irrelevant in the HERE AND NOW.

I am mainly a Tezos and ALGO staker.

>>25311632
>This is some peak autism
Peak system belief. Anon probably thinks that inflation is really running at 2% too. kek

>>25310831
>The market is overreacting.
Lmao, remember the glorious netflix fud campaign desperately trying to push the stock price down when they messed with the membership prices? Then that shit exploded not even a year later.

>>25311615
I have never LARPed
>>25311632
Not at all.
If you think this you are new.

>>25311652
You: I am in xrp for the tech
Him: what tech?
You: who cares lmao + word salad

>>25311652
Okay, so then there's nothing about XRP's technology that you can actually promote? If so, then you're just putting faith in their messaging about partnerships.
>Things change slowly and steadily
They do until they don't. Punctuated equilibrium is a better model for understanding the world. The compound growth of debt works like that, and when you hit the knee of the curve, things get shitty fast - see every currency crisis ever.

>>25311654
I'm an AnCap.
What about what I said is "peak system belief"?
I'll wait. Sounds like buzzwords and that nothing I said supports your statement.

There is recognizing reality.
This is a thing.
There are ideals and reality.
You tried waking people up before?
Is it like pulling teeth?
So then how does this system magically disappear?

I work every day to destroy the system. Usually vaccine posting or some other such very taboo subject.
But I live in the system and I see it for what it is.

If you think the "workers" are going to do ANYTHING other than what they are told, you haven't lived long.

>>25311702
Well you covered the tech part and it didn't seem worth discussing.
It's fast and verified and established.
They could easily clone it up and leave XRP out.
But they are A FUCKING CARTEL DUDE.
They don't want what you want.

>>25311123

People still shilling Onecoin and people still buy. True scams never die.

>>25311717
Well it's not me that's promoting it.
It's insiders.

Jesus. Brainlets ALWAYS think that explaining something is supporting it or endorsing it.
It's fast verified and centralized.
What more could a banking cartel want?

>>25311741
>they are A FUCKING CARTEL DUDE
They are a cartel of sociopaths who don't trust each other. When their debt based system has a global crash, which it is mathematically certain it will now, they're going to have to recapitalize all of those fancy new CBDC's with something. Gold will be part of the equation, but it doesn't move across borders as efficiently as crypto. So what will people have faith in? XRP? Unlikely. Distributed crypto will be the only suitable backing for CBDC's, and they will have to purchase it at market prices, not through some handshake deal with Ripple.

>>25311814
>They are a cartel of sociopaths who don't trust each other.
Yet all their other schemes roll on.
>When their debt based system has a global crash...into something
Yes. The entire point of crypto is so they can swing their inflationary money creation into literal 1s and 0s thereby reducing the blatant inflation by creating "new assets".
This is part of a scheme if you don't notice.
>So what will people have faith in?
Whatever the TV tells them for 99.5% of people.

>>25311814
you're trying to debate a schizo bro

STOP WASTING TIME ON SCHIZOS

>>25311861
>you're trying to debate a schizo bro
Clearly. Some people have to learn the hard way.
>>25311842
Ripple on, anon. Make sure you keeping doing what the TV tells you.

>>25311597
>Where is XRP now
lower than last week, last month, and last year.

>>25311960
It's up on the year if you YTD.
>>25311917
I will continue to stake ALGO and TEZOS thanks.
Don't have a TV.
Well, I do but it's in the basement and never turns on.

>>25311917
>>25311960
>It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Failed.

>>25310831
>Chad Garlinghouse confirmed
He also said it was being used by many companies and we all know that is now a confirmed lie

>>25311903
>6,000 "cryptos" at this point
>all created out of nothing
>all being sold for USDs and such
>this one here is a scam
lmao
They are all scams.
Just some have been successful.

>>25310831
buy the dip goy KEK

>>25311185
>schizos are fare more accurate than anyone here and the threads have massive amounts of info in them

>>25312906
>buy 1s and 0s and not real things
This is the true goy thing to do.
Most people here could have acres of land and yet they hold literally nothing but stuff on a screen.

>>25312936
In regards to XRP yes.
Do you really read their threads?
No, you don't.
Or you'd know that the ENTIRE thing depends on XRP being regulated in.
None of the fudders or criticisms EVER address this and here we are.
Let's see.

>>25312940
the guy that scammed me reassured me it was fine, goy. just keep buying the delistings, it's bullish!

BUY THE DIPS CMON LMAO FUCKING CATTLE

>>25312990
They can delist farmland and acreage?
News to me.

>>25310831
Why not ride the wave down to 0.01 ct and buy then? As long as the trial is happening the price won't pump. If Schizos truly believe XRP is the standard they should want to accumulate as much they can, so the smartest thing would be to act as a collective whale, sell your bags and buy it at near 0

Because the inventor of Bitcoin owns XRP Coins...

>>25312958
understand the whole shizo thing is that dozens of people are making hundreds of predictions, so when some inevitably come true, they use that as 'evidence' of whatever future prediction they want (xrp moon). while conveniently forgetting all predictions that failed, of which there are thousands.

XRP will not get delisted from coinbase. I doubt they'll even halt it as developments continue

Ripple changed the token name to xrp years ago in anticipation of this event.

Ripple is in control. The sec timing is blatant but everyone is too afraid to see through it.

>>25311760
where do you find the patience to argue with retards?
honest question?

>>25313143
>>25313143
But this isn't what actually happens.
This is where my confusion comes in.
You are saying this.
But when I see their threads they are linking to videos of people at the IMF talking about Ripple and such.
So...
Whatever, but it just seems like you WANT it to be this way, but it's not. And instead of being impartial you INSIST it is that way.
Fair enough I suppose.

The stuff XRP schizo is accused of is literally 75% of threads here.
But if you go to the schizo threads, there is incredible real information.
Basically no other threads have any actual information.
Or any videos of World Bank people talking about the coin or token or ANYTHING.
The schizo threads are the only thing with any substance.
Sad for the other coins and tokens really.
They are legit and can't muster any real information?

>>25313257
I do it for the peanut gallery.
I'm not "arguing" with them at all.
I'm using them as a canvas.
Been around awhile.
Seen so many idiots...

>>25313288
tldr

$2k EOY

>>25310831
xrp confirmed qtards

>>25313337
Exactly.
The schizo people will read pages and pages and pull together massive amounts of information from all over.
Then the FUD side says tl;dr
This sums it up perfectly.
lmao

I'm not claiming I know who is right, it's just a WEIRD situation.

>>25313288
> WANT, INSIST
see how you're getting emotional and assigning a position to me I never stated? even the capitalized words for impact, all classic schizo stuff.
I've spent lots of time in XSG, because I find it fascinating. the schizo mechanism works exactly as I described. dates are pushed back, narratives changed, constantly taken with any pushback from rational people shouted down.
It was supposed to be a open embrace from the bankers, now it's a lawsuit? With some pretty specific and serious charges as well as damning insight into Ripple Inc's inner workings.
But that was all predicted with 'regulation' and is therefore bullish, right?

>>25313062
based and leakeypilled

>>25313457
But you can't ascribe anything anyone says in a thread to the other people mate.
They are called shills and larpers and etc.

Caps used sparingly are to emphasize.
Those particular words made an impact, no?
You responded to them...

Every thread has retards and that is a GENERAL thread that runs constantly. To throw the baby out with the bath water is not wise usually.

Again, "they" constantly link to actual big time financial people talkign Ripple.
Nowhere else does that happen in any thread.

>>25313552
I don't care if you use all caps, some caps or no caps mate, but it makes you look like a shizo. let your writing be impactful without that shit, like a normal person, and people will take you more serious, believe me.
>Funny thing is, the fate of XPR (and it's price) is coming down to EXACTLY what the schizos said.
this is what I responded to, and no pretty much nothing has happened like the schizos said.
regardless, idgaf if garlicbread payed to have meetings with some big names- it's stately plainly in the lawsuit, all of that was bullshit. no one is using XRP, it's more expensive.

>>25313696
>nothing has happened like the schizos said
I think that if you listen to the lowest common denominator in any "asset" then you can say they are all idiots.
I take the highest common denominator.
Which is the videos of LaGarde mentioning Ripple and the like.
Is there total retard stuff? Yes.
Why would you even care about that though?
I can go find probably millions of idiots making wild claims about BTC.
Do I listen to them? Or do I listen to the smart people that seem to make sense?

The head schizos have always said XRP was going to be regulated in as far as I can tell.
That is the big picture.
That is possibly coming true.
We shall see.
But I don't hold the intelligent posters to the standard of clearly retarded people.

>>25310872
FOOOO HUNDED QUID MATE?!!?! AR YE DAFT LAD? THIS EER A PAUPER COIN, INNIT NOT FIT TO WIPE THE QWEENS ARSE

Listen closely bag holders, xrp lost nearly half of it's capitalisation over the last few days and it will continue to bleed. Good for you because it's gettin even more volatile and easier to manipulate. When ripple finally hits the floor this weekend, there will be a massiv exit pump and dump organised by discord trannies
discord.gg slash 5Tq7qxkkRv

>>25313956
>no tits
>pasta
Die already.

>>25313795
you must see this is exactly what I'm talking about-
>those guys that were wrong, plainly idiots. you should have listened to these guys that were right
we're talking about XSG, which is 95% schizo garbage. and yes it is far, far worse than any other coin.

>>25314070
>far worse than any other coin.
Then why can't any thread here about any coin have any information in it other than XSG?
>95%
Welcome to life mate.
It's those that wade through the shit that get anywhere.
Crypto is a total side gig hobby for me.
This is just a very interesting dichotomy.
I'm still up on the bit I have.

>>25314070
>you should have listened to these guys that were right
This but unironically mate.
The skill is in determining ahead of time.
There are two outcomes.
>It's a security and massive dump and they were all wrong
>It is cleared and it moons.
Maybe not to 2k, actually almost surely not to 2k, but will you AT LEAST :) admit that if it clears the SEC it will pump enormously?
>inb4 it won't
These are rigged scams mate. I wouldn't be sure on anything. They decide these things arbitrarily in large degree if you haven't noticed.

Imagine, for a second, letting LITERAL, not larping but LITERAL, schizophrenics, advise you financially for any amount of money.

>>25314070
Linkies where bad, but atleast their coins actually mooned it's back at 10.00 but fuck if a few anons didn't make bank on that coin, schizo are delusional though, they all say that this dump was all part of a plan, but if it was all part of the plan why didn't they buy high and sell low, you can forgive people for missing the top, but when it kept dropping and dropping, why didn't they cash out and then buy back in? if they really believe their own sthick, looking from the outside, it looks like sunk cost fallicay and inexperience.

>>25314209
Imagine not realizing they are running the entire world.
Imagine not realizing that you must be schizo in order to properly view things from enough vantage points to figure it out.
Your personal (ego) viewpoint isn't going to cut it mate.
You must become the abyss to understand it properly.

>>25314217
sell high and buy low, the meme's have ruined my brain.

>>25314217
>they all say
No.
I really baffle at the pretend understanding of the "other side".

Why bother at all?

>>25314239
That's why you talk to experts, DYOR, and emulate those who are successful in the field at hand. Schizos around the world are broke as fuck and struggle to keep a roof above their head. What you're saying is pertinently untrue and will cause more anons to lose money.
And who the fuck are "they", such a simplistic world view.

>>25314299
checked, okay not them all, but below is posted at the top of each general.

>Insider/UHNWI/Mellon threads:
>>>/biz/thread/S16595583
>>>/biz/thread/S17266853
>>>/biz/thread/S17914598
>>>/biz/thread/S18102776
>>>/biz/thread/S18417446
>>>/biz/thread/S19283439
>>>/biz/thread/S19919081
>>>/biz/thread/S19980410
>>>/biz/thread/S20098041
>>>/biz/thread/S20429829
>>>/biz/thread/S20720991

Alot of the Anon's over there take seriously the aboves predictions, that this crash was on the cards so when it happened a great many point to this as proof then it's on to 2K eoy, but if that's the case then why didn't they sell near the top? or is it just after the fact interpretation, and what happens if it doesn't go 2k eoy?

>>25311523
bro you work at mcdonalds shut your ass up and make me a mcdouble faggot.

>>25314158
>admit that if it clears the SEC it will pump enormously
I never said it wouldn't.
I've only been arguing that 'the schizos' are not a reliable source of info and the majority are wrong about everything thus far. even if xrp moons some on winning the case, that isn't even be the schizos 'being right'.
for them to be right it needs to be tied into 'the great reset' used as a bancor, or at least settlement for CBDC etc.
that's a far ways off from 'getting sued by the SEC'

>>25314239
and this>>25314516 isn't consern posting, because i wouldn't sell now either if i was holding bags fuck it ride that bitch to the end now might as well, if it goes to 10c I might even through a K at it, nobody ever lost money taking profit, that's the way you should look at it, Hodl is a meme, you need to cash out so when the next correctioin happens at least you're liquid and can really buy the dip, don't bet everything on a moon shot.

"It will pump hard when they beat the case"
They either settle for m/billions in a couple of months and have to restructure their whole business model, plus then retail lawsuits will start, or the suit will take more than a year with no institution touching it, more exchanges delisting, while bitcoin and ethereum blast into outer space during a violent bull run.

The only hope left is schizoid fantasies about how the NWO works.

>>25314516
I think it's mostly ironic shitposting mate.
I never got the feeling they actually believed in large numbers and I've frequented at a good portion of the last 150-200 threads.
But yes, if you take their typed words at face value then you are correct.
>>25314590
>that's a far ways off from 'getting sued by the SEC
Yes. The rest would basically necessitate having been cleared by the SEC.
I'm more pointing out that there is an actual undergird in the XSG that I don't see anywhere else.
I see only hope and speculation everywhere else with NOTHING ZERO NADA to back it up.
There is at least something behind their schizo ramblings.
They call themselves schizos, otherwise they would be indistinguishable from most other posters with the hope and spec.
>>25314644
>hodl is a meme
As is being "schizo".

We are in a thread asking why the FUD. So everything I say is in that context.
XRP could easily be going nowhere.
However the FUD is usually based on nothing more than the LCD schizos have.

Seems to be up to the SEC and from my viewpoint, they hang out with the guys at the SEC all the time. Or close connections thereof.
On the surface I would say this is bullish.

I am small bagholder. I hold actually tens of coins and tokens. So nothing special for me to be holding. I hold things mostly for education and staying up to date in the "space."

We shall see soon enough.