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Hello /biz/, I'd like you to please help me find the weakest link in my planned crypto safeguards

>MetaMask
>Accessed by hardware wallet
>Hardware wallet stored in a secret compartment
>Seed phrases engraved on metal, memorized, one stored with the hardware wallet and one in another secure secret compartment

What are the possible attack vectors and how could I improve this setup?
And apologies if this has been asked a trillion times, but between the Trezor and Ledger which is the superior option for storing large sums of BTC & ETH and to hold and trade any shitcoins
Cheers

>> No.25295897

>>25295856
why are white women so ugly?

>> No.25295903

The manufacturer or reseller of the hardware wallet could steal your coins at any time.

>> No.25295905

Realistically how does one hook up with girls like this? Be part of the same circles? What circles are those? Kidnap them? I’m open to ideas

>> No.25295955

>>25295903
In what way is that possible?

>> No.25295982

>>25295897
>pic related girls are considered white
Mutts’ racial recognition patterns are so bizarre.

>> No.25295988

>>25295897
cope

>> No.25296023

>>25295905
Not as hard as you'd think, but it is mainly a social skills thing

Key is to just not give a fuck about what happens

>> No.25296066

I FUCKING LOVE british women. They're the best and the most beautiful women in the world.

>> No.25296098

>>25295955
For example, they could have a deterministic key generation scheme in the firmware
Alternatively, it could phone home with your pk whenever you plug it in a computer with an internet connection
Thirdly, it could be outputting other transactions than the one you actually intended

>> No.25296105

>>25295905
afaik those girls are British and to me they look upper middle class
so you probably need to be a good looking tall Chad within their social circle and be alpha enough to approach and flirt with them
that's just for hooking up, if you want to wife up and impregnate (highly recommended) then you'll need to be rich

>> No.25296125

>>25295982
>>25295988
Neither of these girls have a waist. They look like trunks. 6/10 at best

>> No.25296177

>>25295856
Not bad. I have my seed phrase split in two: part 1 and part 2. Part 1 is written down and placed in 3 envelopes hidden inside and outside my house. The same part 1 is given to a family member who has duly done the same.
Part 2 is again written down 6 times and placed in 6 envelopes. 3 to a family member abroad and 3 to a friend abroad.
I have my seed phrase hidden among over a hundred words, only I know the code to identify the words within.
If I ever lose the words, I'll contact the family members.
My security is superior.

>> No.25296231

why do you store your seed phrases with your hardware wallet? that's the equivalent of a post it note on your laptop that says "password"

>> No.25296254

>>25296098
Is this even possible with the Trezor which is open source?
I'm too brainlet to know the veracity of what you're telling me in any case, but go on

>> No.25296287

>>25295856
see: nexus mutual
see: ledger hack
why make it complicated: either puched metal or brain wallet. why anyone would trust their fortune to a glorified flash drive is beyond me.

>> No.25296292

>>25296105
Posh school slags

>> No.25296307

>>25295856
>not simply encrypting your seed and storing it in google docs / iCloud while committing the encryption key to memory

>> No.25296337

>>25296098
>this
>Thirdly, it could be outputting other transactions than the one you actually intended
see: nexus mutual

>> No.25296369

>>25296307
they are hashing the entirety of data generated by crypto users daily

>> No.25296467

>>25296231
yep you're right about that one.

>>25296287
Afaik the CEO's computer was remotely accessed and his MetaMask extension was swapped to a hacked one.
Could this happen to an ordinary person or was he simply high profile?

>> No.25296485 [DELETED] 

>>25296369
Your use of "hashing" doesn't make any sense in that context. Unless you want to make the claim that SHA-512 is broken then there is no possible way they can steal your data without the encryption key.

>> No.25296572

>>25295897
yes they are ugly, stay far away Rajesh, enjoy the beauty of paki british women

>> No.25296651

>>25296369
Hashing the data wouldn't provide them with any meaningful information.

>> No.25296668

>>25296254
>Is this even possible with the Trezor which is open source?
Of course
Even if it's open source you can't verify that the firmware actually running on the thing is the same one that you have the source of
There could be an additional mechanism somewhere on the chip that applies a patch on the firmware even if you'd install it from source

>> No.25296678

>>25295897
Cope harder and go shit in your corner pajeet

>> No.25296764

>>25295856
What's the point of a hardware wallet if you put your private key on metamask anyway?

>> No.25296887
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25296887

>>25296668
if this is feasible then what's the safer alternative to hardware wallets?
you're right at least in the sense of needing to trust a third party manufacturer to not steal your funds through a firmware patch (if that is even feasible since these products are rigorously tested by everybody)

>>25296764
I thought the hardware wallet is similar to 2FA in that it requires authentication, through a physical device, meaning software hackers can't take your funds. Therefore it should be safe to use metamask for trading etc. . I am a brainlet though so please elucidate me

>> No.25296947

>>25295856
Wrench attacks. Buy a large safe and put it out in the open. Leave another hardware wallet with a fraction of your holdings plus some cash and precious metals. If you ever get attacked just pretend like you know nothing until they start maiming you then you tell them to open the safe and they take everything although you keep most of your money.

>> No.25296971

>>25296887
>if this is feasible then what's the safer alternative to hardware wallets?
paper wallet, airgapped computer, offline transaction signing
you just have to generate 128 bits of entropy securely, dice will suffice

>> No.25297051

>>25296971
I've heard of all this, not sure a low iq runt like myself can stomach it
I thought a paper wallet is only for BTC?
And with this setup how would I trade?

>> No.25297139

>>25297051
I think this guide is decent
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@tomshwom/tomshwom-s-advanced-crypto-security-guide-part-3-creating-a-secure-wallet
but desu if you're a brainlet might as well keep your shit on coinbase or something
I just don't like it when people pretend hardware wallets are more secure than simply putting your coins in custody with some other company

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25297230

>>25296947
My biggest fear is actually somebody breaking in to my home when I'm not there, since I won't be able to stop or misdirect them. I'd just have to hope that they don't rip apart everything enough to discover the secret compartment the wallet is hidden in.
How would a burglar know that you even own crypto though?

>> No.25297233

>>25296678
Dude it's cool. You can have the ugly girls. I'll stick to the 10/10s

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25297441

>>25297230
you are retard. You should hide your ledger in your body. Buy tape of your skin color(or just paint it) and with a ledger stick it between asshole and sack. Never leave your savings in place without your control.

>> No.25297486

>>25296947
high IQ move, im thinking about buying some fake gold to store so if anyone comes after my real stash, I can get roughed up a bit and then "fold" and reveal my faux gold stash.

>> No.25297520

>>25297139
Do you have an article outlining the possibility of a reputable manufacturer such as Ledger or Trezor stealing their customers funds?
I'm aware that a reseller can tamper with the devices but if you buy directly from manufacturer then you are protected by customer laws. There's no way that Ledger for example (based in France) could surreptitiously shut down their headquarters, orchestrate a mass exit scam, and escape from interpol.

>> No.25297559

>>25295897
Because you're not a black male. White men are drawn to smaller vaginas like asians due to smaller penis size.

>> No.25297567

>>25297441
we do have anus cavity and nutsack for reason.....

>> No.25297595

>>25297230
Fuck that fry up looks good

>> No.25297762

>>25297595
needs a hash brown then it's perf

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25297937

needs a cheeky bump x

>> No.25298148

>>25297520
still wondering about this