/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25219447
indeed sir we will all have many riches

>>25219447
magatards are unironically going to ruin kleros by voting for fucking trump because they can't let truth win. i unironically sold my stack after checking the kleros vote pool. this is the worst press kleros could ever get and going to ruin the project once they realise its ran by a bunch of nazi incels who vote on feelings not facts.

>>25219511
this and checked. listen to this man.

>>25219511
Where can I see the vote pool?

>>25219447
i like this project
but ngl poltards ruin everything (case 532)

>>25219511
>>25219540
There are IDs on /biz/ you absolute fucking retard.

>>25219511
>>25219540
nice pasta samefag

>>25219511
Sentenced to death for attempting to be a real woman.

Oh geez so many purple IDs. I hope I get a pink or purple ID!
>>25219447
Thank you comfy pnk pal fren for making a thread, I was getting a little dismayed at seeing all of those dirty little STA threads here on /biz/ and zero pnk threads. Also, that's a nice ID you've managed to get yourself there, well done!
I do feel rather blessed being this early in such a project, let's hope others can partake in our blessing before they get priced out. Here's to 2021!
>>25219491
Another comfy anon joins us, we are truly blessed.
>>25219511
>>25219540
I swear you basterd. Seriously though, many votes are still to be counted! Do not dismay!
>>25219582
Lots of votes still to be cast pnk pal!! including those belonging to Clément and Federico! https://klerosexplorer.com/case/532
>>25219638
There is no need to be transphobic! I know lots of transwomen who bought and shilled LINK years ago!!!

>>25219582
it is around 15-1 in favor of "yes" vs "invalid", so I think they only proved how few of them and loud they really are
it was such an obvious one too that it was going to be "yes" too. just shows the delusion

>>25219706
Green is good too, brother. I am getting the same "early ETH" and "early LINK" vibe from PNK. Is it, dare I say it, /our coin/? Of course it is.

>>25219511
>>25219715
the election isn't over until congress counts the electors. House and senate are free to raise objections, and electors may be overturned. Members of each body have already committed to objecting. To deny this is to deny the electoral college act of 1887 and the US constitution. It is not the job of jurors to speculate on the odds of anything changing. Trump retains a constitutional path to victory. The market is invalid and you are never getting laid

>>25219827
Take your meds Trumplet

>>25219827
>electors may be overturned
If you decide to stop being a drooling retard for two seconds and read the text of the US Code, you might see that because there's only one set of electors which have been certified, they cannot be overturned.

>>25219827
no refunds

>>25219962
kek

>>25219962
>>25219946
absolutely based
>>25219827
cringe
>>25219706
hello comfy pnkpal, hope I get a purple ID too

>>25219706
>>25219715
>Lots of votes still to be cast
Pretty sure there's one or two whales that could put "Yes" over the top, but it's in their best interests to wait for more incoherent "invalid" votes to get a bigger payout. So unless almost all of the others join the "invalid" camp, it should be as good as settled.

>>25219946
this has nothing to do with trump you utter virgin. Read the market rules

>>25219962
lmao

all the purple and green in here is really making me think

>>25220688
Is it too late to vote for the Trump thing? Never voted in kleros court and I wanna try

$2 eoy 2021

>>25219962
<clearly betting on the electoral college outcome
Citation needed. Either way, the certified slates can absolutely be overturned per USCS2A1S3

>>25220769
I wasn't kidding, I don't know anything at all about how this Kafkaesque nightmare works. I think it's too late for that one but you can probably get into whatever other disputes people have going on.

>>25220769
You don't just show up out of nowhere and vote - you had to have been selected for at least one of the 500 juror seats, which means you need to have staked some PNK in the general court.

>>25219827
Wrong

Trump winning a SCOTUS case is not winning an election

The Electoral count is not winning an election

Martial Law to stay as president is not winning an election

Biden conceding to avoid arrests is not winning an election

The market would only be invalid if the bet was "will Biden be the 46th president?"
but that is not the case the bet was
"will Biden win the presidential Election?"

The Elections are certified per state and have already passed with cheats Biden won.

>>25219447
I will never go to jail.
t. million-pinakion holder

>>25219511
VP Pence can throw out enough votes on the 6th to make sure neither candidate has 270. Then it goes to the house. Each state gets one vote. There are fifty states. This is still in the cards.

>>25221040
I read the constitution, you haven't. The electoral count is a part of the election, not a separate event.

>>25221067
when are we getting kleros private prisons anyway?

Why are the votes of this case public and not hidden? I‘d say the market is invalid but people have now a really low incentive to vote for invalid when they see that yes is winning.

>>25221663
they are being quietly built under the streets of mumbai
don't ask me how i know

>>25219715
>it is around 15-1 in favor of "yes" vs "invalid
not only is this number wrong, the majority of unique voters (who each hold large amounts) have yet to weigh in

regardless this determines the future kleros and its relationship with reality.io and omen

>>25222108
>regardless this determines the future kleros and its relationship with reality.io and omen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZjWJYZDza4

https://twitter.com/edmundedgar/status/1342977023300407296

How much PNK do I need to stake to get picked for this case?

>>25222385
Too late

>>25222138
Adderall is illegal in Japan so if Edmund is taking that stuff then he needs to be deported

>>25222435
>Adderall is illegal in Japan so if Edmund is taking that stuff then he needs to be deported
Dude's already got NK agents hunting him down as we speak you can't blame the guy for tweakin

>>25221905
Federico and Clément are both jurors with 160 votes between them and they are going to vote invalid. Fear not brave warrior of justice.
>>25219540
>>25219511
dilate

also if doubles $1 EOY 2021

JUST USE KLEROS

>>25223213
I would expect the devs to vote Yes.

>>25219511
>>25219511
Where do you check Kleros vote pool? Anyone?

>>25223565
Have you tried reading the thread you're posting in, anon?
here >>25219706
>https://klerosexplorer.com/case/532

>>25223406
>I would expect the devs to vote Yes.
This would demonstrate that Kleros is useless and the price of PNK would ultimately suffer as well as adoption of the platform

>>25223709
This doesn't seem to show Refuse to Arbitrate for me

>>25223795
I guess that's "???"

https://adao.to/case-status

>>25223749
LOL. Kleros is monetizing the digital culture war. Time for you to pump my bags and let your voice be heard, Trumplet; or go back to your /pol/ hugbox, stomping your feet.
>>25223709
I replied before reading more. Thank you fren.

>>25223912
>LOL. Kleros is monetizing the digital culture war. Time for you to pump my bags and let your voice be heard, Trumplet; or go back to your /pol/ hugbox, stomping your feet.
I voted (and bet) for Biden but this market is invalid and if kleros rules yes they're going to fuck themselves over

kleros is a pump n dump scam, there is no way anyone would use this system to resolve disputes

>>25223978
>kleros is a pump n dump scam, there is no way anyone would use this system to resolve disputes
That remains to be seen in about a week

>>25223923
>>25223986
This is a tempest in a teapot and you are being delusional. Kleros will fail if it makes /pol/tards angry? It's impossible to take your FUD seriously. I voted for Trump and I don't care what the result of the Kleros ruling is.

>>25219511
>>25219540
Go back to bunkerchan leftypol you trannie abomination

>>25224158
The group of /pol/tards who support voting (a minority) stipulate that only property owners should vote as the Founders stipulated. Now in reality it seems that the larping aristos/herrenvolk of /pol/ are unable to cough up for some $.10 tokens to have a stake in Kleros votes. And they are pissed.

>>25224241
i don't care about the american election.
objectively it isn't over until the 6th no matter what anyone says. this is like paddypay cashing out hillary votes before the election in 2016.
migafags and leftyfags can go drive off a fucking cliff together.

>>25224282
this is not even close to the same thing
its been over a month since the same moment and several investigations. there will be no change in this vote

>>25223406
clément already voiced support for the invalid side on telegram, and liked this post on twitter
https://twitter.com/xmobiledev/status/1342964401364758535

>>25224362
does not matter until the 6th.
i do believe biden will be confirmed as president, but i do not think they should have closed bets before then.
what's hard about this?

I've been reading the discussion ITT about Case 532 and I have some retarded questions for those in the know.

Where does this case come from? Whose money is on the line? Why?

I notice the question is framed as
>"Will Joe Biden win the 2020 United States presidential election?"
and NOT
>"Did Joe Biden win the 2020 United States presidential election?"
and the case ends before that matter is actually resolved as the Jan 6th anon has pointed out.

So what retard thought it would be a good idea to hold a "court case" for something to be determined in the future? I take it there are no actual lawyers involved with any of this.

>>25224091
it has nothing to do with drumpf you dumb nigger. This is about the omen market rules. Read them and dilate

>>25224867
It's from Omen, a crypto project for gambling. The money will be going to the people who win the bet.
I completely agree ending the bet on Dec 20th was retarded.

>>25224091
based
>>25224875
cringe

It’s invalid. Otherwise Kleros is nothing but an opinion poll. The facts care naught for your Biden or Trump support.

>>25224867
The case comes from a prediction market on Omen. Anyone can create them. This particular one received millions of dollars worth of liquidity, and millions of dollars worth of shares purchased. The questions must first be verified as valid by the Kleros court, but this is not a guarantee, as we see in 532.

A group of people realized that this market was "invalid" per Omen's market rules. The exact outcome could not be known by the resolution date of December 20th. Historically, one candidate always concedes before this date. This election cycle is obviously different. The market closed and neither candidate has conceded, and both retain constitutional paths to victory, albeit one is very slim.

When the market is deemed invalid, shares are refunded 50-50. So, this group capitalized by purchasing no/trump shares which were basically free, and then paid the arbitration fee to have the question brought before the kleros court.

>>25224576
That like may have been more of an expression of approval about that user raising how Edmund is exerting his influence on the voting process unfairly. It doesn’t imply necessarily voting intent

>>25225159
I looked through his liked tweets. There’s a tonne of pro-YES shit in there. He seems to like anything that mentions Kleros at all.

>>25224939
>>25225023
Thanks for the rundown. So retards bet on something retarded and now different (?) retards are in charge of deciding the outcome of the bet?

>>25225023
>So, this group capitalized by purchasing no/trump shares which were basically free, and then paid the arbitration fee to have the question brought before the kleros court.
Is this a feature built in to every Omen market or something? Pretty klever.

Edmund, if you are here, please, step away from the ledge! It will be okay!

>>25225646
https://twitter.com/xmobiledev/status/1343342089413787650

>>25225646
What a fucking virgin. Is there a single Chad on the "yes" side or do they all consume onions rectally

>>25225967
Kleros 532: Autists v. Merchants

>>25225581
>He seems to like anything that mentions Kleros at all.

>>25225967
LMAO even his profile picture is the literal virgin posture too

>>25225967
>>25226159
https://twitter.com/edmundedgar/status/1343354755129622528
kek

>>25226545
>So far Kleros judges seem to be handling it right, so no tantrums.
>Used the way you want to (interpret things in silly ways then declare them invalid because they're silly) it won't work. I could let it break then say "here's why it broke" but I don't think that helps anyone
what the fuck is this incoherent trash he is saying? is he drunk?

>>25226913
He's saying he doesn't like that it's contested and there's a small chance that Kleros might actually do its job

>>25224574
It is objectively humorous that the only MAGA reeee that can be memed is of anti-maga reeeeee-ing.

Anyone care to explain why someone would go to kleros court?

>>25226972
Many such cases

Why does Kleros use metamask for crypto transfer? I don't feel safe using it.

>>25227907
It’s 100% safe man

>>25227512
>Anyone care to explain why someone would go to kleros court?
as a juror? you get paid