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Im 23. 0 dollars to my name. Live alone. 0 friends. 0 clout. 0 connections. Small family. College dropout. I live outside of the US but I am american.

I just want to have money so I can get studio time focus on making my music and to be able to go out clubbing and go to music festivals and to be able to survive independently not have to rely on parents. The best job i had was a truck dispatcher at $500 a week for 6 months.

Ive worked shitty ass jobs like pizza delivery or cashier most of my life but not for long periods of time. Im really lost as to where to go. I just wanna focus on my music but being broke and having no social life hurts my soul.

I dont wanna be rich, just wanna be not broke without having to slave away. Tried that 9 to 5 shit once, those 6 months flew by and life was a big ass blur. Cant ever do it again. What to do?

>> No.25099459

>>25099394
learn to live off the land. get a flight to wyoming. buy some guns and ammo. call the wilderness your home.

>> No.25099520

get off your lazy bitch ass and go work 9-5 office job until at least you are thirty or get enough money saved up to live OK for the next 12 months, even if you wouldn't get any income.

Office jobs are shit and soul killing but can make you some bucks and you get a lot of experience and connections

Working in an office will solve your social problems too

>tried 9 to 5 shit for 6 months but "it wasn't for me"
god damn you kids are lazy these days

>> No.25099565

>I just want to have money so I can get studio time focus on making my music

what are you from 1995? there are tons of free options for making your own music

>> No.25099579

you just have to go hard not give a fuck have some balls. thats it. or else you'll lose it. you'll lose the passion. seen it a thousand times. but genuinely if you dont have that burning passion to be an artist dont pursue it. if you dont have that fire you wont get far and you will be a burnout. if all you want is money just get a job in financial services, always hiring, always the best pay; and start building credit immediately no matter what you do.

>> No.25099625

Well you need to invest in yourself anon. If you keep living your life the same way, don't expect a different outcome. I understand your music is your passion, but you need ot be aware very few people actually make a living out of it, just like say very "pro" video games players earn their bread and butter that way

Perhaps you should consider getting really deep into crypto

>> No.25099652

>>25099394
> Tried that 9 to 5 shit once, those 6 months flew by and life was a big ass blur. Cant ever do it again. What to do?

you’re fucked OP unless you get over this and realize that unskilled labor is a stepping stone until you have skills someone is willing to pay for or nurture (internship, mentorship) OR you’re able to work for yourself and make your own way.

in terms of wanting to just do your music,
you don’t need studio time. you need to get your ass out on the street, busk, use your smartphone to record some demos, put that shit on soundcloud and share it, you need to play open mics, you need to get at least of following of 20 people and then leverage that to book opening gigs at clubs for larger acts.

NOTHING is stopping you from getting out there and playing music. If your city doesn’t have a good music scene, move. Go to LA or New York or Nashville.

I’m sad for you OP because to me it seems like you don’t want to work, you think 6 months at a 9-5 is soul crushing? that mentality right there OP will fuck you and until you get over it well, you’ll be lucky to crack lower middle class to be honest.

>> No.25099676

>>25099520
its not that im lazy, its more like I think im better than being a wage slave. Im too unique of a personality to slave away 9 to 5. U feel me? Im just better than that shit bro. Fuck that shit bro

>> No.25099709

>>25099565
oh also, some real advice: if youre a directionless fuckup, and need to pick a direction to go in, then get on adderall/stimulants. theyll give you the focus and motivation that youre missing. the worst case scenario is you die of a heart attack or become a junkie, but its better than dying a loser

>> No.25099785

>>25099676
Sign up for a bunch of reality shows then and make yourself famous. Let the pro's test your "unique personality"

Everyone, in my opinion has a "unique personality", but that doesn't make you special

>> No.25099843

>>25099459
that honestly sounds like a dope life. would take some serious mental and physical conditioning but would be worth.

>> No.25099864

>>25099709
lol I dont need them I have plenty of energy. But thanks for the advice. I know I sound entitled because of what I said but the truth is, ive been dealing with bs all my life and life just kinda gave me a shitty set of cards and ive had rly bad luck most of my life. Im so lost and misguided I feel like I need to just find some shrooms or some shit and trip and maybe the answer will come to me lol. But that 9 to 5 slave shit rly took all the happiness and life away from me. I cant imagine doing that ever again. The first month was ok but after that everything just turned black and white. I dont know how to explain it.

>> No.25100031

>>25099676
I feel the same anon and I am 27
Fuck this gay bullshit
However I got like $50k to my name
Never worked in an office though and never will. Never let yourself cuck from some fucking retard for no reason at all, just because he was a good goy.
You have two options:
1) You either become the elite in a certain industry. For example work for Boston Consulting Group or so and make big boy bucks and good connections which will elevate you further in life.
2) Start your own thing.

Everything in between is just fucking retarded. I mean you can do it. But you will be a cuck your whole life.

>> No.25100090

>>25099394
You're never going to make money with music.
Best case scenario you because some type of audio engineer, with is about a 1 in a million chance, and work 9-5 in an office for a bit more money than you did last time.

>> No.25100150

>>25099843
Lol just write a book and die in the wilderness so others can make a profit out of your story

>> No.25100185

>>25100031
Good advice bro. 50k is a lot man way to go haha. Yea i feel u that shits dry as fuck. I was literally just thinking cause im somewhat still young to take a risk and put it all on the line when the time comes and try to get something good from it and just do my own thing and see where it goes. its definately a lot more spontanious and adventurous than mon - fri 9 - 5 and have too sit on the chair listening to bill talk about his family and then proceed to tell me what i have to do for the rest of the day so that i dont get fired. Fook that shit

>> No.25100482

>>25099394
>studio time
>making money
You're ngmi. You have no idea how hard it is to make it any capacity in music. You either have a bunch of connections or are amazing (putting in 10+ hours a day since you were 15) and even then it's a shitter. Being an audio engineer is a shit job as well. You have to deal with retards all day and work on garbage music. Please steer clear of music unless you've been dedicated go it for years prior to this.

>> No.25100699

>>25100482
>You either have a bunch of connections or are amazing
While the first part is somewhat true, it actually only comes down to if you are willing to sell your soul to the satanic elite in exchange for money and status. Most (((musicians))) out there are as shit.
But I am sure OP was talking about just becoming a musician in smaller circles and not on the world stage. You can make money doing that, but you propaply won't get rich.
However it's also just as hard, if you are not excellent

>> No.25101611

bite in the sour apple and go to be a software developer 5-10 years.

It's not that hard to learn programming and it's actual okay money. Just don't get exploited.

80% of work is just copy paste from older projects

IT is mostly free money. Never had less to work for more money than there.

>> No.25102512

>>25099394
Give me a sample of your music. I'll see if it's worth my time.

>> No.25102553

>>25101611
this. skip the years of music toil and go straight to what all the audio engineers eventually do or make comments about their friends who dont do shit all day and make 10x what they do.

>> No.25102688

>>25099394
You're fucked because your parents were worthless. You need to be raised. Join the Army and go Infantry. You need to scare yourself out of your shit show. You will either die or come out a man. Bring a fucking harmonica with you into the field. Your experiences will mold you and give you a lot to sing about some day. Or, continue on your path to never making it as a musician due to your pathetic lack of motivation. Seriously, get your shit together.

>> No.25103165

>>25099394
I’m a former heavy rock musician, formerly with a signed band (Sumerian records) and man, the music industry is a fucking shit show nightmare. Of every 100$ my band ‘made’ we saw only $55 of it THEN had to split 4 ways. And we had a much better than average contract that took 2 weeks of negotiations.
It’s not the 1% who make it, it’s the .001% of super talented, extremely lucky that do.
Do it for the love but NOT for the paycheck.

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25103418

>>25099394
Join the army or airforce for military intelligence. You will get a security clearance that will guarantee your lowest paying job is 70k. You will also get the GI Bill. Three years as an intelligent contractor (after your enlistment) and you'll be making 6 digits. Your welcome, pretty much anybody can do it. A staff sergeant in my unit sold cocaine before enlisting, was honest and got his clearance just fine. Also you don't die for israel in an air conditioned office.

>> No.25103584

>>25102688
>Bring a fucking harmonica with you into the field
Make sure to pass on the harmonica to your son/daughter.

>> No.25103669

Do you live in Europe?

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25103751

>>25102688
No shit anon I was on an exercise in baumholder Germany and a dude was playing a harmonica. He was a 35m weenie though, taught himself on staff duty

>> No.25104198

>>25099394
If you're not smart enough to find a real job that can give you enough money to not be poor you are definitely not smart enough to make a liveable amount of moneu off crypto... especially not with 23 dollars.

Get a real job.

>> No.25104830

>>25103418
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/U.S.-Army/salaries