/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>25024016
why aren't I getting these phishing emails and texts, I am on the ledger hack list

>>25024016
This is such a big fuck, that said i don't know why people bought directly and not pseudoanonymously via a third party.

>>25024065
because third parties can fuck with the device beforehand

>implying that threatening someone with a hitting them with a wrench will work on the average burger with twenty guns in their home

kek

>>25024016
>reply: oops sorry i moved since then, looks like you'll be going to the wrong persons home!
>reply: i have $100 worth of bitcoin im a poorfags
>reply: goodluck, i work from home, have a lot of guns, and when im out, my wife is home who's also armed

>>25024102
Nah buy with cash in closed box, trezor at least comes hermetically sealed.

>>25024016
btw u should tell him to first send you 0.01 BTC to cover the transaction fees so you can send the $500

>>25024016
Thank god my ledger mailing address was my shitty college apartment in another state, and I was too lazy/scared to send any of my coins to it.
My Linkies are split between binance, coinbase, and coinmetro.

>>25024198
or just reply:
sent ;)

>tfw went with Trezor

>>25024258
Based Trezor chad.

>>25024231
loled

>>25024016
also i fucking dare anyone to step foot on my land in fact i encourage it

>>25024016
>oi you got a loicense for that wrench

>>25024059
They know you are poor.

What benefit does a hardware wallet have over using an old hard drive

>>25024016
JUST STAY HOME AND STAB HIS NECK

>>25024016
Better buy the christmas pack, anon

>>25024016
You could do with without knowing someone owns bitcoin.
"You have a house, I know you have money and nice things in there" is the same thing really.

>>25024429

thats what you get for making things for us more difficult!
t. not irs

>>25024258
I picked Trezor because I like how the cheapest model looks like something out of star wars

>>25024429
kek

>>25024016
He is going to be busy going to all those 300k houses.

jesus christ ledger is going to be destroyed by lawsuits
they're putting 100s of thousands of people at huge risk of being robbed and killed

>>25024429
LOST

>>25024059
Probably targeting rich zip/postal codes first.

>>25024258
is it too late to switch to Trevor? Luckily my situation is same as other anon, college address but still want to fuck off form ledger if it makes sense

>>25024706
they'll have to do it sooner than later inb4 crash

>>25024738
Anon, the hardware itself is secure otherwise it wouldn’t have been #1 hw wallet. They used a third party app (Shopify) for their ecom and storing customer data. So that shit fucked everyone up.

>>25024433
True but the quiet crypto millionaires will definitely be targeted

>>25024016
>Buying a hardware wallet
Not even once

>>25024794
I was thinking same thing could happen to Trezor anyways so what do, luckily I barely have any crypto worth stealing but would like to tell ledger to go fuck themselves somehow

When i was a kid, i lost myself two times.
Each times it felt really good, thinking about nothing but killing the enemy.

Sometimes, i wish i was mugged or attacked physically, to get in that state again.
I wish i could sate my bloodlust.

>>25024429

>>25024837
You are supposed to buy them via authorized third parties in cash.
Get smart or get rekt.

>>25024127
he said "whilst" so I'm inclined to believe he's a britbong

>>25024016
Shanking the unshanked

Lol my dogs are hungry

>>25025008
Buying a hardware wallet from someone else is like having someone else generate your private key
No matter what you do to check that the hardware isn't compromised they could probably still do something to it and are incentivized, at least tempted, to do so

It's a little blackbox computer that can lie to you about anything it says it's doing
On the other hand all you need is a computer as simple as a raspberry pi or old laptop that you won't connect to the internet ever again to generate a bunch of private keys + wallet addresses once, write them down, and use them as you want
You don't even have to keep the computer you use to send the coins secure, because you can just empty the wallet and send the remainder to a new cold wallet

>>25024016
Lel, fucking try me m8. There's a good chance they'd get robbed or shot just trying to get into my apartment because of how shitty my neighborhood is. I also have some batshit crazy peurto rican downstairs neighbor who absolutely will stab an intruder. He just sits in the basement hallway stating at the door sharpening a knife (no larp, he did some time last year for pulling a knife on someone on a bus, but got let out because of covid). Then, if you make it through my area (about 6 or 7 people have been killed within a block of me in the last year), past the crazy pissed off peurto rican, and up to my door, I'm going to fucking fill you full of so much buckshot that even if you survive, you'll never be able to walk through a metal detector without setting it off.

>>25025073
Lol

>>25024102
so far there is no reported case of third party tempering with the ledger hardware, it's just ledger with a per-initialized seed phrase

>>25025168
You can format them when you get them, also both ledger and trezor have authorized resellers , just go to the closest one and pay in cash.

>>25024059
Because op's email is a larp. Only like a hundred people are in crypto bro

>>25025073
Based doggos ready for the feast

>>25025168
anon you do know that you can generate your own keywords on a computer and import it into ledger, right?

>>25025570
Why would I do that when I already generated the wallet? What's the point?
Just another point of failure

>>25025392
>You can format it
And ultimately you have to trust that it's telling the truth when it says it wiped everything
I'll admit it's extremely unlikely that any kind of malware is on a hardware wallet,
but it's like yearly we're hearing about all these security breaches or bugs of some kind surrounding hardware wallets

I can sleep totally soundly at night knowing that there is basically no way anyone can know my keys that I generated on an airgapped computer for less total cost than a hardware wallet
The only credible point of failure in this system is if somehow the software you're using to generate keys is not random and generates from a predetermined set of numbers, in which case you could just flip a coin 256 times if you're really that paranoid and have a wallet software hash the public key in public address for you from that if you want to go full tinfoil hat mode

>>25024016
Hello Sir,

>>25024016
Imagine, being an idiot and trying to blackmail and force people to give up their crypto when it's easier to just take their credit/debit card and just kick the pin out of them.

>>25025838
so it's easier when you trade rug pulls on uniswap. otherwise you have to manually move the raw tx back and forth between your air gapped pc and your connected pc

>>25025992
Ah, ok I could see a usecase for that

>>25024823
This is why /biz/ advises to never ever flex on social media or IRL. that's the only way somebody would know that you have more than $100 in crypto

>>25025367
kek you can google like 100 cases of people getting fake seed phrase cards from third parties

>>25024102
>>25026708
they can't fuck with the device if you download the ledger software from ledger.com because the hardware is signed. if you have a tampered device the software on your pc won't let you use and transfer funds to it

>>25026708
right, that's the scheme that I was talking about
none of the case has to do with the device actually getting tempered
i.e. if you generated your own seed words you are fine

>>25026809
yeah sorry i was agreeing with you. its just funny looking at all the pajeets sending out fake seed words

>>25024016
tfw bought a ledger but wasn't in the leak

>>25024016
>I'm offering you $500

>>25024016
>i also live in
These are pajeets in pooland. The new your computer is broken scam.

>>25027000
checked

>>25024065
because shipping address needs to match credit card

>>25025939
If criminals were smart they wouldn't be criminals, or you wouldn't know about them.

>>25024016
Make my day faggot. I have a German Shepherd and both my wife and I sleep with a gun right next to both of our heads.

>>25026981


I'm surprised it took this long for someone to point that out.

Yes, you can pay me $500 to come over and try and take my shit. But your brains will get splattered and I'll pocket a nice, cool $500. win.

My reply: Come and get it

>>25024887
what's done is done, the info you gave them is already there and its never going away. Useless to change devices now.

>>25024141
there have been cases with hermetically sealed ones where the seed phrases have been stolen beforehand

>>25024016
If one of you send this e-mail to me I'll be forwarding it to the FBI. Enjoy prison.